Reds gave the impression they were ready to wheel and deal and make big bold moves. All I see is the same old same old. Checking in, coming close, standing by while other teams pull off the deals, being creative, being patient. Make a deal for crying out loud.
Pitching and catching are the positions that are specialized. The reds have a surplus of talent at shortstop, which by many are usually the most athletic on the team. The team needs to have these young men learn the outfield.
I think ( IF the Reds don't make a move ) if Hinds has a great spring you start him in RF, Fraley in LF and Friedl in CF. I move Steer back to !st or 3rd ( depending on the type of springs that CES and Marte has ) leaving Canfelario to DH...but I ONLY go with this play IF the Reds make no moves AND depending on the type of spring is had by Hins, CES and Marte !
Yeh, they should have used Hinds down the stretch more last year. Not because they were trying to win, but because they could have given him more MLB experience which could have helped him grow more and develop. Just my opinion though.
@@jacobjensen1380 100%, it wasn't like we had a legitimate playoff shot. Why not play guys that are in your plans for 2025 and beyond and find out what they do well and what they need to improve on...then they could go to the Arizona Fall League ( like McLain and CES did ) then in camp you can get a much clearer picture of what you have and what you need.
If the reds don’t make a move for an out field power bat and some bullpen help they will not make the playoffs…and if they do happen to sneak in they will lose first round. Reds need to spend some big money for once and go for it. Gets old year in and year out with the same garbage.
@@Smallie888 While I agree with you on the fact that it gets tiresome seeing them NOT make a "Splash" move and when they do the money is misspent ( Candelario ) I think you ( like many Reds fans ) are far underestimating the impact having a healthy McLain, Friedl, CES, Marte and a one season more mature Elly De La Cruz in the lineup can have on our won / loss record. I'm not making excuses but we had a TON of injuries last season, and not just injuries, long term injuries to KEY players. You have to take into account that we still have not seen the best versions over 162 game schedule for MOST of the everyday 8...OR our Starting pitchers.
I agree with you we have a solid young core with the exception of Marte who may not make the big league roster next season. I just feel if the reds don’t sign a solid outfield power bat and some lockdown bullpen guys they may squander away this great opportunity. The reds window is the next three years and then it’s back to the basement. Plus the MLB is broken and completely unfair. They need to fix it. Anywho, I’m still excited to see the Reds in 2025!
@Steve Candyman hurt tonight. Likely a hammy probably lingering to spring training. Who plays 3rd now? or do we find someone to trade for or try to handle in house?
Sometimes the best moves are the ones not made. Not saying they don’t need to make a move but making one just to say you did, not smart IMO. None of us can predict the future, but I think having a calming personality in the clubhouse ( manager) as well as a teammate that keeps all the players playing loose and having fun….
The Reds aren't ahead of the curve with the handle the players. You say the Reds should let the players play? How about letting the starters pitch complete games. It builds stamina and overall makes them healthier as long as they don't try to overpower the hitters.
Krall needs to step his game up. They have to change their FA Strategy. The can’t keep going to a player telling them “we have to pay you slightly below market value, but we can offer you all you can eat Skyline Chili during your entire Reds tenure. And if you win MVP or something, we’ll give ya free chili for life!”
Saw you last night on late night reds man (Steve) but we need to get outfielder starting to worry I see the rumors even the one bout pitcher out of Japan come on reds management do something
If you get Santander on a 10-year deal, you get 7 years of prime output and 3 years of occasional DHing. Front-load the contract. It's what they did with Votto. Santander will sign that contract.
Great show as always, guys! I wrote down very similar talking points about Terry and the merging of old school versus new school way of doing things for my first episode of my Reds Reality podcast coming up. I also very much agree with how you mentioned that it’s not a short term fix it needs to be a long-term fix in the OF and that if you go with Reese and Blake this year than something is very, very wrong.
The lack of OF prospects is a result of drafting the best player available. I understand why you do. Don’t get me wrong. But you draft/trade/sign Cruz McClain India Marte Arroyo Collier CES etc. All infielders. You either need to move some to the corner OF spots early so they can develop or they’re trade pieces similar to Yonder Alonso and Grandal.
Austin Hays hit .354 against LHP in 82AB last season, he’s going to cost like $5M for the season, at the bare minimum, a Fraley/Hays platoon could suffice for one corner OF spot, but I want Steer out of the OF, so sign Teo or Santander and roll with that. I wouldn’t trade for Robert if the cost is still high.
Can’t believe, well, yes I can, the Reds are still screwing around with back up catcher. Go sign James McCann before he’s gone and get that position out of the way.
While people don't get as excited about a managerial change like they do acquiring a Starting Pitcher. A GOOD Manager is worth an additional 10 to 15 wins a season. The Reds finished with 77 wins last season...they were 15 - 28 in one run games....let's say Francona went .500 in those games at 28 - 28...that's THIRTEEN games ! That would have given us NINETY wins...and a playoff spot. I beleive Francona is worth at leasr 10 - 15 additional wins in those games. If the Reds had signed a 13 game winning starter everyone would be excited...bringing Francona here is the same thing in my opinion !
They would’ve have to play 13 more games to go 28-28 in 1 run games. If Tito went 500 in those games they would’ve gone around 22-21 which would’ve made their record 82-80 which is what they did last year.
@@KaitheGoalie I meant if we'd went .500 or better in those games... not play an additional 13 games...so let's say we went 22 - 21 in those games and no, they went 77 - 85 not 82 - 80 THAT was 2023. which means if they were 1 game over.500 in one run games they go 84 - 78...look up the stats and do the math. My whole point is that a GOOD manager is worth 10 - 15 wins a year because they're gonna win more of those one run games...which are the games where they can have the most impact on the outcomes....so lets just say that Francona would have got us 15 wins in those games last season...that extrapolates to 92 wins and a 92 - 70 record and a Wild card spot ! Bottom line is a good manager ( Francona ) can win you 10 - 15 games a year, a bad manager ( like Bell ) can lose you 10 - 15 games a year !
@ I get you I just meant if they went 500 on the one run games would’ve made their record 82-80 rather 77-85 which is what they did this year. I kinda misunderstood your first comment, my bad.
@@KaitheGoalie Bottom line I was NEVER a fan of Bell as a manager. He didn't know how to handle the pitching staff... and we basically went from one extreme to another Dusty Baker ALWAYS went with "hunches", Bell ALWAYS went "by the book " good managers know the right times to go by the book and the right times to go with a hunch.
Lmao This team isn't gonna do shit they will shop at Dollar tree for a has been players and fantasize about prospects.Produce bobby doesn't want to win.
Bingo.... You nailed it exactly. Same same old repeated "what if" rhetoric. Reds have several 5 inning over paid starting pitchers & so desperate for a plus, they tout the star of team who leads baseball in fielding errors & at bat 200+ strikeouts. What does that tell ya??? Being realistic, "if" Francona in 2025 has a 82-82 win/loss season, it will be a small market yearly success. I want the Reds to win as much as the next fan, but they will never again come close to playing in a World Series, given money, money has ruined baseball.
@@Joseph-namvetexactly man and it’s sad.. my 8 year old son loves the reds but doesn’t know yet he will be rooting for a losing team for the next 70 years
The Reds are about as ahead of the curve as these two bozos. They told us for a month how bad any Crochet trade would have been while hyping Lbob. lmao
Hernandez does not want to come here. He is doing everything he can to get LA to keep him and a guy that wants to go to LA, return to a WS team will go almost anywhere else other than Cincinnati. Give up on out.
All the baseball analytical mumbo jumbo. Here is one, per Pete Rose, get runners to 2nd and 3rd. MOVE THEM. The only stat that counts is most runs wins. Score more runs than the opponent on that day. Not most hits, most strikeouts, most homers, steals, walks, extra base hits, who hits the longest homer, who has the most pitching velocity, even who commits the most errors, or makes the most above average plays or fastest runners. All those stats that players take into their contract negotiations. The Gold Glover. What a farce. Soto will get hundreds of millions but can strikeout five times and his team still can win.
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Reds gave the impression they were ready to wheel and deal and make big bold moves. All I see is the same old same old. Checking in, coming close, standing by while other teams pull off the deals, being creative, being patient. Make a deal for crying out loud.
If we can trade for Luis Roberts Jr we'd be in very very good shape for a big run
@@WhoDeyBrew64gotta get Robert and Hernandez
@@Backjucher... that's a big HELL YEAH!!!! Adding those two makes the Reds a serious contender the next few years.
Lol they'll get neither. They won't spend, won't trade prospects, they suck at developing OFs. They have to do one of the three and they do none.
That warm yellow liquid falling on the fans is rain, the Reds brass swears it's rain.
Pitching and catching are the positions that are specialized. The reds have a surplus of talent at shortstop, which by many are usually the most athletic on the team. The team needs to have these young men learn the outfield.
Reds need Sandandter 12:55 outfield help, this would help the team.
I think ( IF the Reds don't make a move ) if Hinds has a great spring you start him in RF, Fraley in LF and Friedl in CF. I move Steer back to !st or 3rd ( depending on the type of springs that CES and Marte has ) leaving Canfelario to DH...but I ONLY go with this play IF the Reds make no moves AND depending on the type of spring is had by Hins, CES and Marte !
Yeh, they should have used Hinds down the stretch more last year. Not because they were trying to win, but because they could have given him more MLB experience which could have helped him grow more and develop. Just my opinion though.
@@jacobjensen1380 100%, it wasn't like we had a legitimate playoff shot. Why not play guys that are in your plans for 2025 and beyond and find out what they do well and what they need to improve on...then they could go to the Arizona Fall League ( like McLain and CES did ) then in camp you can get a much clearer picture of what you have and what you need.
If the reds don’t make a move for an out field power bat and some bullpen help they will not make the playoffs…and if they do happen to sneak in they will lose first round. Reds need to spend some big money for once and go for it. Gets old year in and year out with the same garbage.
@@Smallie888 While I agree with you on the fact that it gets tiresome seeing them NOT make a "Splash" move and when they do the money is misspent ( Candelario ) I think you ( like many Reds fans ) are far underestimating the impact having a healthy McLain, Friedl, CES, Marte and a one season more mature Elly De La Cruz in the lineup can have on our won / loss record. I'm not making excuses but we had a TON of injuries last season, and not just injuries, long term injuries to KEY players. You have to take into account that we still have not seen the best versions over 162 game schedule for MOST of the everyday 8...OR our Starting pitchers.
I agree with you we have a solid young core with the exception of Marte who may not make the big league roster next season. I just feel if the reds don’t sign a solid outfield power bat and some lockdown bullpen guys they may squander away this great opportunity. The reds window is the next three years and then it’s back to the basement. Plus the MLB is broken and completely unfair. They need to fix it. Anywho, I’m still excited to see the Reds in 2025!
@Steve Candyman hurt tonight. Likely a hammy probably lingering to spring training. Who plays 3rd now? or do we find someone to trade for or try to handle in house?
after seeing what it took to trade for Kyle Tucker, would the Reds have been able to do that deal?
Yes
Sometimes the best moves are the ones not made. Not saying they don’t need to make a move but making one just to say you did, not smart IMO. None of us can predict the future, but I think having a calming personality in the clubhouse ( manager) as well as a teammate that keeps all the players playing loose and having fun….
God STFU. That’s a cope for ownership being cheap and an inept FO
Spencer steer has been good in the outfield in my opinion and has a bright future I think we should talk about him
Steer was a well below average defensive LF in 2024
He’s a terrible defender
The Reds aren't ahead of the curve with the handle the players. You say the Reds should let the players play? How about letting the starters pitch complete games. It builds stamina and overall makes them healthier as long as they don't try to overpower the hitters.
Yep agreed. Especially with the reds shitty bullpen
The outfield can be beefed Up by moving Elly there. This will help the team as well as he will not make all of thise infield errors.
Krall needs to step his game up. They have to change their FA Strategy. The can’t keep going to a player telling them “we have to pay you slightly below market value, but we can offer you all you can eat Skyline Chili during your entire Reds tenure. And if you win MVP or something, we’ll give ya free chili for life!”
Haha exactly man it’s sad. Man i would love free skyline for life!
I’d take that deal 😂
Saw you last night on late night reds man (Steve) but we need to get outfielder starting to worry I see the rumors even the one bout pitcher out of Japan come on reds management do something
If you get Santander on a 10-year deal, you get 7 years of prime output and 3 years of occasional DHing. Front-load the contract. It's what they did with Votto. Santander will sign that contract.
Santander is already 30, he has about 2-3 years of prime hitting left and his defensive metrics are already slipping.
They are?
Absolutely not
No, they’re paid shills.
Great show as always, guys! I wrote down very similar talking points about Terry and the merging of old school versus new school way of doing things for my first episode of my Reds Reality podcast coming up. I also very much agree with how you mentioned that it’s not a short term fix it needs to be a long-term fix in the OF and that if you go with Reese and Blake this year than something is very, very wrong.
The lack of OF prospects is a result of drafting the best player available. I understand why you do. Don’t get me wrong. But you draft/trade/sign Cruz McClain India Marte Arroyo Collier CES etc. All infielders. You either need to move some to the corner OF spots early so they can develop or they’re trade pieces similar to Yonder Alonso and Grandal.
I kept hearing how some of these players could move to the OF but that hasn't happened and no indication that it will.
Guys. Reds are not ahead of the curve in anything. Maybe they are ahead of the curve in "checking in" on players.
Austin Hays hit .354 against LHP in 82AB last season, he’s going to cost like $5M for the season, at the bare minimum, a Fraley/Hays platoon could suffice for one corner OF spot, but I want Steer out of the OF, so sign Teo or Santander and roll with that. I wouldn’t trade for Robert if the cost is still high.
Believe it when you see it, otherwise, all talk.
Can’t believe, well, yes I can, the Reds are still screwing around with back up catcher. Go sign James McCann before he’s gone and get that position out of the way.
@@JonHus reds will probably bring back Casali
They get that japanese pitcher and a bat for outfield and then they are ahead of the curve. Lol
While people don't get as excited about a managerial change like they do acquiring a Starting Pitcher. A GOOD Manager is worth an additional 10 to 15 wins a season. The Reds finished with 77 wins last season...they were 15 - 28 in one run games....let's say Francona went .500 in those games at 28 - 28...that's THIRTEEN games ! That would have given us NINETY wins...and a playoff spot. I beleive Francona is worth at leasr 10 - 15 additional wins in those games. If the Reds had signed a 13 game winning starter everyone would be excited...bringing Francona here is the same thing in my opinion !
They would’ve have to play 13 more games to go 28-28 in 1 run games. If Tito went 500 in those games they would’ve gone around 22-21 which would’ve made their record 82-80 which is what they did last year.
@@KaitheGoalie I meant if we'd went .500 or better in those games... not play an additional 13 games...so let's say we went 22 - 21 in those games and no, they went 77 - 85 not 82 - 80 THAT was 2023. which means if they were 1 game over.500 in one run games they go 84 - 78...look up the stats and do the math. My whole point is that a GOOD manager is worth 10 - 15 wins a year because they're gonna win more of those one run games...which are the games where they can have the most impact on the outcomes....so lets just say that Francona would have got us 15 wins in those games last season...that extrapolates to 92 wins and a 92 - 70 record and a Wild card spot ! Bottom line is a good manager ( Francona ) can win you 10 - 15 games a year, a bad manager ( like Bell ) can lose you 10 - 15 games a year !
@ I get you I just meant if they went 500 on the one run games would’ve made their record 82-80 rather 77-85 which is what they did this year. I kinda misunderstood your first comment, my bad.
@@KaitheGoalie Bottom line I was NEVER a fan of Bell as a manager. He didn't know how to handle the pitching staff... and we basically went from one extreme to another Dusty Baker ALWAYS went with "hunches", Bell ALWAYS went "by the book " good managers know the right times to go by the book and the right times to go with a hunch.
You speak truth and wisdom, kind Sir.
You saw this will bellecheck! If the reds don’t get better guys they will lose 80-90 games with FRANCONA.
Lmao This team isn't gonna do shit they will shop at Dollar tree for a has been players and fantasize about prospects.Produce bobby doesn't want to win.
Sad but true
Bullshit you both are all in on Fairchild! Talk to us when your not
Thanks
If they don’t get a bigger bat for the outfield the reds won’t win more than 80-85 games.
Players go to where the most money is 99.99999999% of the time. It is just that simple.
Too many question marks with the ONLY change being Terry Francona as the Manager? Well that fixes everything. We all know what BS means.
Bingo.... You nailed it exactly. Same same old repeated "what if" rhetoric. Reds have several 5 inning over paid starting pitchers & so desperate for a plus, they tout the star of team who leads baseball in fielding errors & at bat 200+ strikeouts. What does that tell ya??? Being realistic, "if" Francona in 2025 has a 82-82 win/loss season, it will be a small market yearly success. I want the Reds to win as much as the next fan, but they will never again come close to playing in a World Series, given money, money has ruined baseball.
@@Joseph-namvetexactly man and it’s sad.. my 8 year old son loves the reds but doesn’t know yet he will be rooting for a losing team for the next 70 years
The Reds are about as ahead of the curve as these two bozos. They told us for a month how bad any Crochet trade would have been while hyping Lbob. lmao
Why are you carrying water for an ownership team & front office that are the stupidest in baseball? Pathetic. Grow some balls.
Hernandez does not want to come here. He is doing everything he can to get LA to keep him and a guy that wants to go to LA, return to a WS team will go almost anywhere else other than Cincinnati. Give up on out.
Blake Dunn is NOT a MLB ballplayer. He was overwhelmed and looked out of place.
In 26 at bats?
@@soffenbaker not doing this Steve. Not accepting Blake Dunn as a solution for the OF issues.
All the baseball analytical mumbo jumbo. Here is one, per Pete Rose, get runners to 2nd and 3rd. MOVE THEM. The only stat that counts is most runs wins. Score more runs than the opponent on that day. Not most hits, most strikeouts, most homers, steals, walks, extra base hits, who hits the longest homer, who has the most pitching velocity, even who commits the most errors, or makes the most above average plays or fastest runners. All those stats that players take into their contract negotiations. The Gold Glover. What a farce. Soto will get hundreds of millions but can strikeout five times and his team still can win.
Makes me think of the 1990 Reds!