Keelin Morris If he gets a SB, he ties Rodgers in all the big topics excluding Pro Bowls which he’ll get more than Rodgers. When it’s all said and done Mahomes will be seen greater than Rodgers
Stephen A is right thats down right disrespectful this man had one good season on a decked out team especially compared to what Rodgers has had for the past 2-3 years
Mahommes was the best qb last year. Possibly this year also, Rodgers and Brady are up in age compared to mahommes.. But as far as careers go Mahommes can't shake a stick to my boy Rodgers.. he's a baaaaaad maaaan
I don’t care if Mahomes solves the damn Rosetta Stone in his first season. The man is not better than Aaron Rodgers just because of one season. End of discussion
People say that Aaron had a bad season last year. He threw 28 touchdowns and 2 only interceptions and over 4000 yards passing on a bad leg for the entire season. The whole team is responsible for not winning.
@@CeeWorld69 I ain't saying that shit. Rodgers is mediocre.James harden of the NFL. Just stats. Only thing separating him at this point from Matthew Stafford is his 1 super bowl he keeps riding off of just like Eli manning. Anyone who loses to Colin kaepernick twice in the playoffs automatically is disqualified from the goat conversation. Tired of people giving him a pass.
*I’m with SAS on this one people get so quickly caught up with recent stuff. Mahomes is the man but he has to do it more than once to be better than ARod*
Stunna P do I have to say itttt.... F it I will he was to do it again. Let’s remember he’s in Andy Reid system bout 30 percent of those tds are dump offs behind that line to hunt and hill. Kid had a arm but better than Rodgers ask that in 3 years. Let’s not forget luck was on fire his first seasons. Just a great qb who can win your Super Bowl but never will.. idk bout now the AFC and their great qbs are near retirement so the window is opening for new faces
Patrick Mahomes with one great year is better than Aaron Rodgers who’s been consistently great since he became a starter and has a Super Bowl ? Recency bias at its finest
Difference is Aaron Rodgers "great years" NO WHERE CLOSE to the year Mahomes did... AND it was Mahomes first year starting. Come to reality please. Thank you
DELTA_FORCE101 DELTA_FORCE101 you’re an idiot... Rodgers threw for 45 tds, 68 completion percentage over 4500 yards, just six interceptions, and 122.5 passer rating which is the highest of all time while only playing in 15 games lol... don’t act like mahomes deserves to be considered better than Aaron after one season
This dude literally tried to make an argument that Mahomes is more CLUTCH than Aaron Rodgers, after 1 YEAR, ONE YEAR!!! I never saw Mahomes throw all those hail marries, or make the playoffs 8 straight seasons without a great coach or defense. "But, Mahomes hasn't had time to prove it yet ..." THAT'S THE POINT. Mahomes is AMAZING, but let's see what he'll do in his 2nd, 3rd, and 4th season. Also as Stephen A. pointed out, look at the personnel, Rodgers never had the kind of weapons Mahomes has. Another point, I don't recall Rogers ever losing the game for the Packers, yet he's been a starting QB since 2008. His NFL records: Rodgers holds the highest career passer rating in NFL history - 103.1 Rodgers holds the highest single season (2011) passer rating in NFL history - 122.5 Rodgers holds the highest TD:INT ration in NFL history - 4.23:1 (that's unbelievable) Rodgers hold the record for most consecutive passes completed without an interception - 402 Mahomes is great, but he hasn't proved anything for people to say that he's better than Aaron Rodgers
It's because he's the only one who doesn't need to spew hot takes in order to build his brand and be entertaining. He's already established as the face of ESPN and he can make perfectly reasonable takes entertaining as hell
ryan hollins was in the NBA for 10 years and he's the goofball that said the warrior would run laps around the 96 bulls and that jordan could not fill lebrons shoes :D ...
I don't understand the whole wait until that have film on you argument. Didn't defensive coordinators have film after week 8, and they still couldn't do a damn thing about Mahomes. Dude is special.
Yeah but during the off-season you get alot more time to watch film during the season you get less than a week I thought that would have been common sense lol
@@willieprescottiii5235 don't bring race into this discussion has nothing to do with it we love doing that for everything shit is annoying and exhausting smh
@@SeanSmith-yq6kz the best defensive mind in NFL history has already got 2 looks at him. He was able to bottle up Mahomes in the first half in both games then got his defense thoroughly shredded by Mahomes in the 2nd half both times. If anything, you should be more scared that Mahomes has tape on how some defenses had some success against him.
@@12jswilson that makes no sense you have 6 plus months of film to watch compared to a week you made my argument for me when you said that bottled him up in the first half that would mean if he had more film to watch they can possibly do better I think he will be very successful in this league but don't do that don't pretend like they should be more scared of him then they've been game for 5 to 10 years some longer than that he been here 2 years
He has a higher ceiling than Rodgers at a younger age Bc he has limitless arm strength that can make any throw. Unless he gets injured in his career, I don’t see him regressing as a talent Bc his skill set you can’t really neutral ize
Well now that Mahomes already has three Super Bowl appearances and two rings and will probably have at least four rings and Rodgers has one in his one and only... yeah, I would put Mahomes over Rodgers.
@@vinbucketts6209 Nah Rodgers is just going to silence the Critiques when he throws for 400 yards and 4 touchdowns that might. And then Mahomes get roughed up by our Defense
Mahomes is the defending MVP and already has a playoff win. Should have had two, except that BS roughing call on Brady. You can disagree, but its not disrespectful. Aaron Rodgers has not been healthy and has been drama. Mahomes is the face of the NFL future.
Patrick Mahomes is definitely on his way to being the best QB in the league by far. If he has 1 or 2 more good seasons or a Super Bowl win. Mahomes will also definitely be on his way if he continues this dominance for 5 or 6 seasons he will go down as a hall of fame QB and top QB of all time.
If Mahomes stays healthy for at least 14 more years then he will pass for over 70,000 yards and throw for at least 600 TDS (which blows the TD record out the water) alot of people consider Barry Sanders the goat of running backs and he ain't win ish. Mahomes will be consider Goat after another 10 to 15 years and he might play for 20. Just not fair
I’m a Chiefs fan since Priest Holmes days and happy to finally have a top tier QB but I definitely agree with SAS and the former players now analyst are so wrong being prisoners of the moment it’s crazy... Patty Homez has to do it again for another year while A-Rod is proven in that sense
Boy did this aged well. Mahomes is better yall. Point blank Period. Dominique did the ultimate mic drop at the end with pressure numbers: Mahomes (71). Rodgers (20.3). We ain't trying to hear personnel matters. Rodgers had the opportunity to leave GB and be in a better system and produce.
African Rhino lol I’m honestly not even tryna bash Cam cuz he’s good. I’m just saying how people get so caught in a guy for one year then he’s not put in that conversation again. Mahomes had 50 TDS and a lot of yards which is eye catching but people forget Cam stats weren’t all about passing but rushing too and the fact that his top WR was ted gin Jr and they went 15-1 which is ridiculously good. His season was just about as good as Mahomes
Cam benefitted from one of the easiest regular season schedules Brady easily with an injured team outshined Cam and was robbed of league MVP that season Brady was going off that year
Mahomes had one of the best seasons for a QB in history and Aaron Rodgers didn't have shit on that last year. But truth is one season ain't enough to say Mahomes is a better QB than Rodgers. But I believe Mahomes will achieve a lot more in this career than what Rodgers has achieved in his. I believe Mahomes will end up being the better of the two by the end of his career.
@@BORRZZNot necessarily and he did lose Kareem Hunt. Also had the 31st ranked D and carried us a game away from the SB. Came down to a coin flip in ot and an offsides by D Ford. Our D was TERRIBLE
@@BORRZZ You saying it like it's a guarantee. It's not. Tf we are talking about doing better than 50 & 12 like it's nothing. 3rd greatest QB season ever.
@@stefpurn1 I mean he has done alot with not alot of talent recently he necessarily saying it's a guarantee he would put similar or better but he probably would especially with Andy Reid as his head coach
Sean Smith I didn’t compare them I was using team comparisons . Your offense can be good but you have to stop teams packers or falcons couldn’t do that last year
They keep bringing up all the weapons Mahomes gots and Andy Reid Alex Smith the number 1 overall pick QB had all the same weapons and only had 29 td’s!🤔🤔
Also a bigger arm and better mobility can't look at stats gotta look at who is throwing the ball as well but I like Mahome's alot not more than Rodgers the or Baker Mayfield
Patrick Mahomes MAY be better than Aaron Rodgers right now. May. That's the better way to phrase it that "is". Yes he had a significantly better season than Rodgers and went to the playoffs, but the NFL is full of seasons like that. To be better than AR right now, two things must continue to happen. - Rodgers must show true, non injury, regression. Now, rodgers is not a God by any stretch. Brady and Brees are both better. I say that as a packer fan. Rodgers is great at improvision and can drop dimes, but he is terrible at taking what the defense gives him. A 5 to 8 yard dump off is better than a throw away. But Rodgers constantly passes up wide open dump off plays 1.5 seconds into his drop and then holds the ball for 6 seconds looking for a bigger down field play. It's a flaw in his game that has prevented him from the consistency of Drew Brees. If the defense is giving you a free 5 yards, you take the free 5 yards. It's frustrating as a packer fan watching him stall the offense so much because he wont just take what the defense gives. In the past, he had better talent, which opened up down field plays when he held the ball. He doesn't have that talent now and failed to adjust thus far. But hes still better than mahomes barring regression and - Mahomes doing it all over again. Mahomes could be a one year wonder. He could be the greatest to ever play. He needs to prove he wasn't a one year wonder. Now, he repeats, goes back to back mvps, rodgers falters and fails to make the playoffs again. Then the argument is perfectly valid. Even more so if Mahomes wins the SB. So Mahomes may be better than Rodgers right now, but we need more data before we can said that for sure. For all we know, Rodgers is about to go on a redemption tour, win another mvp, and drag that talentless offense to the NFC title game. We need to let this play out.
Mahomes better than Rodgers???? Mahomes had a offense gifted to him when he got the starting job , he’s expected to play good with all that talent on one team.
stephen a is a clown.... had to go back to 2016 to support his stats.... then made injury excuse's.... has a rogers ever thrown 50+ td passes in a season?
5:11..... They literally made a change to the rules bc of that hit. You cant drive the qb into the ground. also, i think a qb is more valuable than a punter and punters cant be touched after the release of the kick why can qbs be hit after they release the ball?
So, you're saying Mahomes could not possibly win without Kelce, Hill, etc, etc. How about week 17 of his rookie season. Mahomes starts his FIRST game in the NFL At Denver, the Chiefs don't play ANY** of their offensive starters, with the exception of right tackle Mitchell Schwartz. Mahomes goes 22-35 for 284 yards and the win. Anthony Sherman played RB that day. Anthony Sherman has SEVEN carries in his EIGHT year NFL career, with the exception of that game, he carried the ball 14 times. Mahomes made Albert Wilson(10 catches - 147 yards) a lot of money that day. Wilson is an average NFL receiver at best. Backup TE Demetrius Harris(3 catches - 73 yards). Mahomes will win with whoever you put him on the field with, just give him a decent defense. 19 games into his career, not one team has managed to hold him under 26 points yet. **Kareem Hunt had ONE carry - He was the only other(than Schwartz) offensive starter to step on the field that day.
@Butch Davis the chiefs offense was always deadly, even with alex smith, mahomes is better than smith, but the chiefs hardly improved from there past seasons. don't be so butthurt
SAS With all due respect to AR, what weapons does Brady have every year ? The roster is chopped & changed every year. In addition Brady takes a home discount to get good players in his team. And what did AR do fill his pockets. SAS you always say he is a Baaaad Maaaan coz he has talent & more. AR at least get into Championship games. He cannot even do that. SAS's regarding injury excuse .... if AR like doing his thing outside the pocket & he is susceptible to be hit. At the present moment Mahomes is a better QB than Rogers. I use to like watching AR but tries too many miracle plays to showboat his talent. Watched almost all of KC Chiefs games because of Mahomes & the crew. I believe the key word SAS is KC were ENTERTAINING more than the Packers
I'll put it like this. Considering what the Chiefs did this past season, coming up just short of the super bowl with the team that they had, replace Mahomes with a healthy Aaron Rodgers that season, the Kansas City Chiefs are your defending super bowl champs. That's how you know Aaron Rodgers is better than Patrick Mahomes right now. Change my mind
@@douggambill5826 I'm fully aware that it's my opinion. The only reason why this is a topic of discussion though, is cause Aaron Rodgers for the past 2 seasons has been banged up. If he was fully healthy and having another Aaron Rodgers like season, no one would be talkin about is Patrick Mahomes better than Aaron Rodgers.
I'm a Bears fan, and I'm glad asf we finally have a good quarterback, but I've said this to say, Aaron Rodgers (healthy) is the best QB in the league 😴🤝🏾
Rodgers has become so overrated in recent years, he's not the same guy in the Playoffs where he is now 5-6 since that SuperBowl he won almost 10 years ago. He's had good weapons but his fans, led by Stephen A Smith, Max Kellerman and Shannon Sharpe, act as if he plays with scrubs like Brady does. Brady>Brees>Rodgers
It’s disrespectful to have Stephen a carry espn with a broken arm
Wine is fine But whiskeys quicker IKR 😂
lol ESPN's fault for letting all their talent go to FS1. If they lost SAS, the network would crumble.
Disney has no heart
Wine is fine But whiskeys quicker u know he liked ur comment from a burner Accnt 🤣
That's why that hairline keeps creeping back...the man is fucking stressed out lmao
Bro Stephen a got that mamba mentality he carrying espn with a injury showing up in the clutch!
@@yos5177 shut your racist ass up
YOU RIGHT ANY MAN OR WOMAN SHOW UP 2 WORK INJURED,YOU GOTTA RESPECT THAT. HOW MANY OF US CALLED OFF SICK,TAKE YOUR TIME I'LL WAIT.
Jordan Davis come @ me
Boi
SAS is delusional @ me idc
yos wtf that got to do with anything?
Now Stephen A see how Lebron felt when he was carrying them bums in 2018
And 08
🤣🤣
Bums? LoL he had plenty of help. Shut up.
Joshua Johnson what about the other 13 players
Christopher Law love was hurt a lot
He could've thrown for 60 touchdowns one season does not make you better than Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady smh
Deon Nelson If Mahomes wins a SB he will have a better resume than Rodgers
shaunbir klair then they both will have one ring ?
shaunbir klair maybe 3-7 seasons from now maybe
Keelin Morris If he gets a SB, he ties Rodgers in all the big topics excluding Pro Bowls which he’ll get more than Rodgers. When it’s all said and done Mahomes will be seen greater than Rodgers
@Christopher Law no he's not
Putting Ryan Hollins ever again on this show is disrespectful
PraneetOKC putting Ryan Hollins in anything is disrespectful
Facts
And Ryan Hollins is to ESPN what Nathan peterman is to the sport of football 🗑
PraneetOKC nah put him in there his stupid takes r hilarious
Im telling ya
Stephen A is proving that he can carry ESPN with one hand tied behind his back!!
Stephen A is right thats down right disrespectful this man had one good season on a decked out team especially compared to what Rodgers has had for the past 2-3 years
Nobody likes Rodgers. Blame deflecting divas dont deserve sympathy or anything.
Cory Fessenden stfu lmao you just listening to what other people say😂
Mahommes was the best qb last year. Possibly this year also, Rodgers and Brady are up in age compared to mahommes.. But as far as careers go Mahommes can't shake a stick to my boy Rodgers.. he's a baaaaaad maaaan
@@sdfishinn then your stupid
He's a bad man who hasn't even been to a Superbowl in 8 years.
I don’t care if Mahomes solves the damn Rosetta Stone in his first season. The man is not better than Aaron Rodgers just because of one season. End of discussion
He is better than Aaron Rodgers
LilSvmba HE WILL BE BETTER. Deal with it. Y’all overrate tf outta Rodgers. Brady , BREES,
De’Aaron Rose Because their all top 3 Qb's, smh
Except he is. End of discussion
LilSvmba Packers didn’t even make the playoffs last year
He had a magical season...but i don't think one good season makes u better than Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees!
@Jude3 then you're not a packers fan if you believe dree brees is better that Arron Rodgers
Jeffrey Weston I agree
People say that Aaron had a bad season last year. He threw 28 touchdowns and 2 only interceptions and over 4000 yards passing on a bad leg for the entire season. The whole team is responsible for not winning.
Also had the most throw aways
25 td
I think your thinking of Brady’s 2016 season when Brady had 28 TD and 2 int. Rodgers has 25 TDs
😅 oops.
Peyton Manning made worse teams more competitive than the team Rodgers had last year.
1 year of success does not OVERRIDE a career of success..Wow!! they just lost all respect🤦🏾♂️
Mahomes about to break every and I mean every including passer rating..every quarterback record in the books
@@1minute99 stop the cap. Aaron rodgers is a baaaaaaaaad maaaaaaaaaan
Literally nobody in the world:
Stephan A. Smith : Aaron Rodgers is a baaaaaaad man
Dat Guy literally everyone says that, wth are you talking about
CeeWorld r/woooosh
He aint lying tho
Dat Guy actually, media has been blasting Rodgers the last month.
@@CeeWorld69 I ain't saying that shit. Rodgers is mediocre.James harden of the NFL. Just stats. Only thing separating him at this point from Matthew Stafford is his 1 super bowl he keeps riding off of just like Eli manning. Anyone who loses to Colin kaepernick twice in the playoffs automatically is disqualified from the goat conversation. Tired of people giving him a pass.
*I’m with SAS on this one people get so quickly caught up with recent stuff. Mahomes is the man but he has to do it more than once to be better than ARod*
Yeah, I was waiting for Max to pop up and yell "recency bias!"
Stunna P do I have to say itttt.... F it I will he was to do it again. Let’s remember he’s in Andy Reid system bout 30 percent of those tds are dump offs behind that line to hunt and hill. Kid had a arm but better than Rodgers ask that in 3 years. Let’s not forget luck was on fire his first seasons. Just a great qb who can win your Super Bowl but never will.. idk bout now the AFC and their great qbs are near retirement so the window is opening for new faces
@@alanfbaby1 most were not dump offs dingus plus well might as well say tom.brady sucks if you talking about dump off passes😂😂
Stunna P definitely, that’s with all sports too. They forget one guys greatness soon as someone new emerges.
Seeing as how Rodgers has never done what Mahomes did...
Patrick Mahomes with one great year is better than Aaron Rodgers who’s been consistently great since he became a starter and has a Super Bowl ? Recency bias at its finest
I mean he hasn’t been great for 3 years soo is he even in the conversation anymore
Difference is Aaron Rodgers "great years" NO WHERE CLOSE to the year Mahomes did... AND it was Mahomes first year starting. Come to reality please. Thank you
DELTA_FORCE101 DELTA_FORCE101 you’re an idiot... Rodgers threw for 45 tds, 68 completion percentage over 4500 yards, just six interceptions, and 122.5 passer rating which is the highest of all time while only playing in 15 games lol... don’t act like mahomes deserves to be considered better than Aaron after one season
Tell that to Rodgers 2011 season. Lmao. Dumbass fanboy lmao. Rodgers 2011 or manning 2015 are best QB seasons and it isn’t close. Tf outa here
DELTA_FORCE101 I’m a chiefs fan, but calm down.
Soooooo they are Aaron Rodgers as the chief's QB wouldn't have an MVP season?! MVP doesn't make you best, it just means you had the best season.
So apparently Mayfield is going to the Super Bowl and Mahomes is the best qb in the league Lmaooo y’all drunk
And you watch birdman lol
Mahomes is likes that show that man some respect
PHILLY HAD THAT OFFENSIVE ERUPTION WENT 2 DA SUPERBOWL SINCE THEN.....CRICKETS!!!!
wydjohnny 😂😂😂
SAS defends Iverson, Lebron and Rodgers like their his kids 😂😂😂
Replace Rodgers with favre then I agree.
Not lebron.
LeBron is SAS stepson: he doesn’t like him but he defends him now and again cause his wife (us the viewers) like him
Patrick Mahomes not even close too being better then aaron rogers this is laughable
You're right it's not even close he's WAY better than Aaron Rogers
@@israelbound8978 no
@@israelbound8978 what u smoking on cuz
@@robstradamus8565 before injury Rodgers was the best in the NFL
y'all sucking bleacher report
Mahomes literally just came in the league lmao
@Leo Dancor No he's not just because he threw 5p touchdowns that doesn't make you the best player in the NFL.
That doesn't make him NOT the best. What point are you making?
Brycen Edwards ever heard of the phrase “one season wonder?”
Said the same thing about Mike Trout
There are such things as wonderkins.
This dude literally tried to make an argument that Mahomes is more CLUTCH than Aaron Rodgers, after 1 YEAR, ONE YEAR!!! I never saw Mahomes throw all those hail marries, or make the playoffs 8 straight seasons without a great coach or defense. "But, Mahomes hasn't had time to prove it yet ..." THAT'S THE POINT. Mahomes is AMAZING, but let's see what he'll do in his 2nd, 3rd, and 4th season. Also as Stephen A. pointed out, look at the personnel, Rodgers never had the kind of weapons Mahomes has. Another point, I don't recall Rogers ever losing the game for the Packers, yet he's been a starting QB since 2008. His NFL records:
Rodgers holds the highest career passer rating in NFL history - 103.1
Rodgers holds the highest single season (2011) passer rating in NFL history - 122.5
Rodgers holds the highest TD:INT ration in NFL history - 4.23:1 (that's unbelievable)
Rodgers hold the record for most consecutive passes completed without an interception - 402
Mahomes is great, but he hasn't proved anything for people to say that he's better than Aaron Rodgers
Mahomes is great no doubt but he ain't no Aaron Rodgers bro I'm sorry.
😂
LOL Rodgers never put anywhere close to the numbers Mahomes did last year.... AND it was mahomes first starting season. Come to reality Please
Lol really so 45tds to 6ints isn’t close to 50tds to 12ints
@@jonathanruiz362 then your stupid
Way better than rodgers
He’s not better yet but I’m couple years he might be better 🤷🏽♂️
Hes better right now man lol he's gonna keep being better since he's going into his prime and Arron will decline with age
How is this debate holding up now lmaooo
The only guy that didn't play football on this panel is the only one who knows what hes talking about 🤦🏽♂️
It's because he's the only one who doesn't need to spew hot takes in order to build his brand and be entertaining. He's already established as the face of ESPN and he can make perfectly reasonable takes entertaining as hell
ryan hollins was in the NBA for 10 years and he's the goofball that said the warrior would run laps around the 96 bulls and that jordan could not fill lebrons shoes :D ...
I don't understand the whole wait until that have film on you argument. Didn't defensive coordinators have film after week 8, and they still couldn't do a damn thing about Mahomes. Dude is special.
They always say that about athletic black QB's
Yeah but during the off-season you get alot more time to watch film during the season you get less than a week I thought that would have been common sense lol
@@willieprescottiii5235 don't bring race into this discussion has nothing to do with it we love doing that for everything shit is annoying and exhausting smh
@@SeanSmith-yq6kz the best defensive mind in NFL history has already got 2 looks at him. He was able to bottle up Mahomes in the first half in both games then got his defense thoroughly shredded by Mahomes in the 2nd half both times. If anything, you should be more scared that Mahomes has tape on how some defenses had some success against him.
@@12jswilson that makes no sense you have 6 plus months of film to watch compared to a week you made my argument for me when you said that bottled him up in the first half that would mean if he had more film to watch they can possibly do better I think he will be very successful in this league but don't do that don't pretend like they should be more scared of him then they've been game for 5 to 10 years some longer than that he been here 2 years
He has a higher ceiling than Rodgers at a younger age Bc he has limitless arm strength that can make any throw. Unless he gets injured in his career, I don’t see him regressing as a talent Bc his skill set you can’t really neutral ize
Im a packers fan but I’ll admit that last season he was better than Aaron Rodgers💯
Yeah an injured Aaron Rodgers
Superduper A 💯
That’s one season tho
One season with a fully healthy and loaded offense. They were so stacked they barely fell off at all when they lost Kareem Hunt.
Blaise he was sooo great but didn’t make the SB
Well now that Mahomes already has three Super Bowl appearances and two rings and will probably have at least four rings and Rodgers has one in his one and only... yeah, I would put Mahomes over Rodgers.
Rodgers MVP season: 4643 yds, 45 TDs, 6 picks and a 122.5 Rating. 🤔 Plus he averages Mahomes rating his whole career.
Here goes the media making everyone hate on Mahomes just because of how much they hype him up. Just appreciate greatness.
Teams got film on Mahomes now... its hard to play up to the level he played last year + he's madden cursed
Not necessarily. Look at the Patriots. They've played the SAME game for years with success despite opponents having film on them.
123abc name another team ? My point exactly . You can’t compare the patriots to anyone my guy
Drew Brees?
Mahomes has film on the other defenses, it works both ways. Plus, Andy Reid is gonna change the looks of his offense, the offense will be different.
Stxner Kenny And Mahomes watches films of the defense too so your comment is just dumb
Tht Man Aint Touchin Aaron Rodgers He Aint Nowhere Near Rodgers These Dudes Trippin Gotta Be Smokin On Sumn
We'll see whose better Sunday night at Arrowhead later this year
... ya we would see who is truly better if we could get a time machine and go back to 2011-2012 and get that a rod to play
@@vinbucketts6209 Nah Rodgers is just going to silence the Critiques when he throws for 400 yards and 4 touchdowns that might. And then Mahomes get roughed up by our Defense
Mahomes is the defending MVP and already has a playoff win. Should have had two, except that BS roughing call on Brady.
You can disagree, but its not disrespectful. Aaron Rodgers has not been healthy and has been drama. Mahomes is the face of the NFL future.
Oh please. Excuses is all I hear from Chiefs fans
Superbowl mvp how bout that
So Stephen A making excuses for Rodgers wanting to be the highest paid QB and not leaving any money for his O-line/defence and positional players.
Stephen A doesn't give these excuses to Cam Newton.
not at all
@@K.C.C.L cause Cam isn't as good a quarterback as Rodgers outside of his MVP year he's been slightly above average TBH
Patrick Mahomes is definitely on his way to being the best QB in the league by far. If he has 1 or 2 more good seasons or a Super Bowl win. Mahomes will also definitely be on his way if he continues this dominance for 5 or 6 seasons he will go down as a hall of fame QB and top QB of all time.
MXP 😂
MXP But that’s not gonna happen is the thing
All y’all are hating on Patrick Mahomes 💀
If Mahomes stays healthy for at least 14 more years then he will pass for over 70,000 yards and throw for at least 600 TDS (which blows the TD record out the water) alot of people consider Barry Sanders the goat of running backs and he ain't win ish. Mahomes will be consider Goat after another 10 to 15 years and he might play for 20. Just not fair
Alex Smith had similar weapons. He had no MVP season. Doesn't matter about the weapons you have. You still have to freaking preform. Ask Tom Brady
I’m a Chiefs fan since Priest Holmes days and happy to finally have a top tier QB but I definitely agree with SAS and the former players now analyst are so wrong being prisoners of the moment it’s crazy... Patty Homez has to do it again for another year while A-Rod is proven in that sense
Horten Ojongtambia foh
White boi
How you fleel about that now, now that he got you a superbowl
Pat Mahomes is gonna prove he's better once again this season
Wow they disrespecting Rodgers already 🤦🏾♂️
How you feel about mahomes now🤔
Hope they keep that same energy mid way threw the season 😉
Arcell Mcgowan Aaron about to go crazy💯
*through
Patrick Mahomes is overrated. He had 1 good season and all of a sudden he is the best quarterback?
How many seasons has he started...?
Rodgers is overrated
@@jasond8477 Yeah 1 season. And he's the best no that can't be.
@@jasond8477 1. He needs atleast 2 or 3 more years so we can have a decent sample size
So why in the hell talk about him now?
Aaron Rodgers is 24-24-1 in his past 49 games, stop acting like Aaron Rodgers doesn’t have to prove that he still has it too.
ChrisTheProgrammer Thank you.!
He does. No doubt.
That's why we need this season to play out.
Boy did this aged well. Mahomes is better yall. Point blank Period. Dominique did the ultimate mic drop at the end with pressure numbers: Mahomes (71). Rodgers (20.3). We ain't trying to hear personnel matters. Rodgers had the opportunity to leave GB and be in a better system and produce.
Guess who's back down to earth
Remember Cam Newton winning MVP , going 15-1 and everyone calling him the best in the league... where he at now?
Probably about to be intercepted...lol
Hes been hurt and even cams season wasnt as good as mahomes
African Rhino lol I’m honestly not even tryna bash Cam cuz he’s good. I’m just saying how people get so caught in a guy for one year then he’s not put in that conversation again. Mahomes had 50 TDS and a lot of yards which is eye catching but people forget Cam stats weren’t all about passing but rushing too and the fact that his top WR was ted gin Jr and they went 15-1 which is ridiculously good. His season was just about as good as Mahomes
@@mark1mark oh okay
Cam benefitted from one of the easiest regular season schedules Brady easily with an injured team outshined Cam and was robbed of league MVP that season Brady was going off that year
This so disrespectful
This isn't aging well
Nobody outside Greenbay even cares about Rodgers anymore. I most certainly never have. All he does is lose to my Seahawks anyway.
Cory Fessenden Exactly look at the 2014 NFC Championship
"Patrick Mahomes is better than Aaron Rodgers." y'all on *CRACK*
Do you still feel that way now
@@benchwarmertowelboy1243 yeah Aaron Rodgers still better
Mahomes had one of the best seasons for a QB in history and Aaron Rodgers didn't have shit on that last year. But truth is one season ain't enough to say Mahomes is a better QB than Rodgers. But I believe Mahomes will achieve a lot more in this career than what Rodgers has achieved in his. I believe Mahomes will end up being the better of the two by the end of his career.
Imagine Ryan Hollins Stephen a Smith and Molly taking about Giannis
Pretty sure it would be the most viewed and hated video on their channel.
Kids born in the 2000s are the ones saying that mahomes is better.. Moral of the story: don't trust what 2000s kids say.
As a chiefs fan I can't say he's better yet but he definitely looks like he can be better that's for sure.
Bro u give rodgers the cheifs offence more than 50 tds and mahoames o line
@@BORRZZNot necessarily and he did lose Kareem Hunt. Also had the 31st ranked D and carried us a game away from the SB. Came down to a coin flip in ot and an offsides by D Ford. Our D was TERRIBLE
@@stefpurn1 not the point if rodgers had all the weapons mahoames had hed do better espically if he is healthly too
@@BORRZZ You saying it like it's a guarantee. It's not. Tf we are talking about doing better than 50 & 12 like it's nothing. 3rd greatest QB season ever.
@@stefpurn1 I mean he has done alot with not alot of talent recently he necessarily saying it's a guarantee he would put similar or better but he probably would especially with Andy Reid as his head coach
I want Max back with Stephen A. instead of these fools
Why because they're right
The Answer is Rodgers. Nuff said.
4:35 that killed the argument for me. Defenders are way more limited in sacking the QB now than before.
Oct 27 Chiefs vs Packers
"oNcE tHeY gEt FiLm On MaHoMeS." Meanwhile, Stephen A. is still waiting on the Hunter Henry vs Derrick Johnson matchup.
The number of excuses Stephen A makes for Aaron Rodgers is INSANE
When they bring up numbers all of a sudden "Mahomes had so many weapons and a good o-line" lmao
A healthy Rodgers would’ve probably thrown for 60tds with the lineup and coaching Mahomes had.
Stop
Willie Prescott III you sound mad.
Mahomes is great But body of work matters to me.If arron roger was in that KC offense they will be UNSTOPPABLE. I cant beeeilieve what hearing SMDFH
It's a couple QB's you could say that for
WHAT? KC defense was trash that’s why they lost. Same with Packers defense trash. Even the Falcons scored a lot of points but defense was TRASH!
@@captainkirk197 don't compare Aaron Rodgers to Matt Ryan that's disrespectful bro
Sean Smith I didn’t compare them I was using team comparisons . Your offense can be good but you have to stop teams packers or falcons couldn’t do that last year
@@captainkirk197 oh yeah I saw that after I read it again my bad bro
It's not disrespectful. It's something to be bebated. Kid is special.
Don demarco
Why is it crazy to say Mahomes is better than Rodgers? Rodgers is the most overrated QB in NFL History.
That's Tom Brady
Yea the most accomplished is the most overrated you sir just embarrassed yourself
@@joejohnson9687 Tom Brady is the GOAT
Never surprises me that retarded Fans think the alltime great winners are Overrated. LMAO
Tom Brady
There is no comparison. Rodgers been playing longer than Mahomes
What they talking about Mahomes is good but not A-Rod good. Living in the moment 🤦🏾♂️
ThatManLF foh white boi
How you feel about that now. Since mahomes is a superbowl mvp
They keep bringing up all the weapons Mahomes gots and Andy Reid Alex Smith the number 1 overall pick QB had all the same weapons and only had 29 td’s!🤔🤔
Also a bigger arm and better mobility can't look at stats gotta look at who is throwing the ball as well but I like Mahome's alot not more than Rodgers the or Baker Mayfield
Baker mayfield 🤣 I bet you feel stupid saying that now
Have that Same Energy at the End of this Season.. Please don't Change your train of Thought..
facts let em keep that same energy don't dickride later haters...😂😂
Right cause mahomes is the superbowl mvp
Having Molly as moderator is disrespectful
Had one good year
collier martin - he had 1 all-time historic year in his 1st year starting.
@@baca1105 key word first year of starting. like let the man have some time before we call him the best QB. It's gonna get harder
@@baca1105 Historic how exactly?
I live in KC. He doing no looks in practice like it's nothing! DOWN THE FIELD!!! name me the time Aaron has done it!
Tom Brady first year starting won the super bowl and he wasn’t ranked best quarterback til later in his career when he proved himself
Patrick Mahomes MAY be better than Aaron Rodgers right now. May. That's the better way to phrase it that "is". Yes he had a significantly better season than Rodgers and went to the playoffs, but the NFL is full of seasons like that. To be better than AR right now, two things must continue to happen.
- Rodgers must show true, non injury, regression. Now, rodgers is not a God by any stretch. Brady and Brees are both better. I say that as a packer fan.
Rodgers is great at improvision and can drop dimes, but he is terrible at taking what the defense gives him. A 5 to 8 yard dump off is better than a throw away. But Rodgers constantly passes up wide open dump off plays 1.5 seconds into his drop and then holds the ball for 6 seconds looking for a bigger down field play. It's a flaw in his game that has prevented him from the consistency of Drew Brees. If the defense is giving you a free 5 yards, you take the free 5 yards. It's frustrating as a packer fan watching him stall the offense so much because he wont just take what the defense gives.
In the past, he had better talent, which opened up down field plays when he held the ball. He doesn't have that talent now and failed to adjust thus far.
But hes still better than mahomes barring regression and
- Mahomes doing it all over again. Mahomes could be a one year wonder. He could be the greatest to ever play. He needs to prove he wasn't a one year wonder.
Now, he repeats, goes back to back mvps, rodgers falters and fails to make the playoffs again.
Then the argument is perfectly valid. Even more so if Mahomes wins the SB.
So Mahomes may be better than Rodgers right now, but we need more data before we can said that for sure. For all we know, Rodgers is about to go on a redemption tour, win another mvp, and drag that talentless offense to the NFC title game. We need to let this play out.
I got four words for Woody and that other analyst. *STAY OFF THE WEEEEEEEEEEED*
I agree, but I counted 4 words.
You see that’s the point...
I’m just kidding 😂 yeah clearly their weed is effecting me
How you feel about that now. Since mahomes is now a superbowl mvp
Stop it A.Rod is A bad bad mann
He really dropped the Mic on Stephen A smith!!!
Well done homie...
Mahomes better than Rodgers???? Mahomes had a offense gifted to him when he got the starting job , he’s expected to play good with all that talent on one team.
If Aaron Rodgers win another super bowl, I will say... in fact I will be speechless
Zou Zou2 go pack go!!!!
Zou Zou2 He won’t
I’m going screenshot this and come back here after the season
He will win another one before mahomes get one😈😈😈
He not with that team he got
stephen a is a clown.... had to go back to 2016 to support his stats.... then made injury excuse's.... has a rogers ever thrown 50+ td passes in a season?
This reminds me of Kawhi vs Kobe Debate
Except Kobe is far better in his sport than Rodgers....
Rodgers isn't Kobe
@@brett8202 not true
5:11..... They literally made a change to the rules bc of that hit. You cant drive the qb into the ground. also, i think a qb is more valuable than a punter and punters cant be touched after the release of the kick why can qbs be hit after they release the ball?
All these excuses for Rodgers lmao man Mahomes just better right now B
ESPN FINALLY LISTENED never ever let ryan hollins disgrace your airwaves again
Mahomes is getting overreacted
overrated *
Miles Parker I didn’t know he overreacted 😂
Leo Dancor I think he’s good but let’s be real maddens ratings are trash this year
Cuh Nation It’s true Mahomes is better than Rodgers
Right he is better and on his way to a second superbowl
i remember when Cam won his League MVP ... they did the same exact thing... One Year 🤔
ITS AARON RODGERS!!!! THE ONLY MAN SECOND TO BRADY RIGHT NOW! (2.B is Brees)
The disrespect towards Davonte Adams is crazy
Put rodgers in kc and mahomes in gb. Guarantee the packers go 4-12
So, you're saying Mahomes could not possibly win without Kelce, Hill, etc, etc.
How about week 17 of his rookie season. Mahomes starts his FIRST game in the NFL
At Denver, the Chiefs don't play ANY** of their offensive starters, with the exception of right tackle
Mitchell Schwartz. Mahomes goes 22-35 for 284 yards and the win. Anthony Sherman played RB that day.
Anthony Sherman has SEVEN carries in his EIGHT year NFL career, with the exception of that game, he
carried the ball 14 times. Mahomes made Albert Wilson(10 catches - 147 yards) a lot of money that day.
Wilson is an average NFL receiver at best. Backup TE Demetrius Harris(3 catches - 73 yards). Mahomes will win
with whoever you put him on the field with, just give him a decent defense. 19 games into his career, not one team
has managed to hold him under 26 points yet.
**Kareem Hunt had ONE carry - He was the only other(than Schwartz) offensive starter to step on the field that day.
@@danpaul2989 that's just 1 meaningless game but I get what you're saying
I don't think it's disrespectful to say Mahomes is better than Rodgers because as of right now he is 💯
Mahomes jumped into the perfect situation with the chiefs, he’s great but everyone needs to relax
@Butch Davis the chiefs offense was always deadly, even with alex smith, mahomes is better than smith, but the chiefs hardly improved from there past seasons.
don't be so butthurt
The perfect situation that Alex Smith lost every single playoff game with?!
All I’m tryna say is the chiefs are not the chiefs of last year without mahomes
SAS With all due respect to AR, what weapons does Brady have every year ? The roster is chopped & changed every year. In addition Brady takes a home discount to get good players in his team. And what did AR do fill his pockets. SAS you always say he is a Baaaad Maaaan coz he has talent & more. AR at least get into Championship games. He cannot even do that. SAS's regarding injury excuse .... if AR like doing his thing outside the pocket & he is susceptible to be hit. At the present moment Mahomes is a better QB than Rogers. I use to like watching AR but tries too many miracle plays to showboat his talent. Watched almost all of KC Chiefs games because of Mahomes & the crew. I believe the key word SAS is KC were ENTERTAINING more than the Packers
Stephen a broke his arm because he be carrying 🤷♂️
@Natnael Guliano AND THATS REAL
I'll put it like this. Considering what the Chiefs did this past season, coming up just short of the super bowl with the team that they had, replace Mahomes with a healthy Aaron Rodgers that season, the Kansas City Chiefs are your defending super bowl champs. That's how you know Aaron Rodgers is better than Patrick Mahomes right now. Change my mind
Lmao. Just your opinion. Nothing you said is fact, just hypothetical
@@douggambill5826 I'm fully aware that it's my opinion. The only reason why this is a topic of discussion though, is cause Aaron Rodgers for the past 2 seasons has been banged up. If he was fully healthy and having another Aaron Rodgers like season, no one would be talkin about is Patrick Mahomes better than Aaron Rodgers.
Go talk out your ass elsewhere
I'm a Bears fan, and I'm glad asf we finally have a good quarterback, but I've said this to say, Aaron Rodgers (healthy) is the best QB in the league 😴🤝🏾
The Bears should have drafed Mahomes over Tribiskey
Absolutely
SAS carrying ESPN with one arm what a legend.
Rodgers has become so overrated in recent years, he's not the same guy in the Playoffs where he is now 5-6 since that SuperBowl he won almost 10 years ago. He's had good weapons but his fans, led by Stephen A Smith, Max Kellerman and Shannon Sharpe, act as if he plays with scrubs like Brady does.
Brady>Brees>Rodgers
Drip Bayless agreed
Brady doesn't play with scrubs FOH
@@bernardwade8096 lmao ok other than gronk name another great player?
Today is the day I now have respect for Dominick
lol. Who is that? Do you mean Domonique?
But its true though...... Patrick Mahomes is the truth.......
Did Aaron Rodgers throw 50 touchdowns and win the MVP and go to the Championship game in his 1st year starting in the league?
Patrick Mahomes will be a First ballot HOF 🤷🏾♂️
He can retire now and be a first ballot HOF
Shawn McClymont this isn’t the NBA HOF
Yall sucking him
@@ShaunbirKlair24 💀💀💀💀
Mahomes isn't even on the same planet as rodgers.