The video is not clear on what this does or doesn't do, can it voice call, and watch youtube? If not, you should make that very clear and the video is misleading.
I am 100% making that, and I'm adding speech to text; also text to speech for when people respond. Should I integrate noise cancellation into the vape unit? There's a sentence you don't see every day lol but it's an opportunity for RISCV to create a tiny market slice, too small to even be niche but enough for a single dev to make some $$$ without paying asinine royalties to capital/investment management companies, which own all the really good commercial tools at this point.
If disposable vape manufacturers started including these LoRa chips in those new full color display vapes and gaming vapes we would have a robust national and possibly international wireless mesh network within days.
I'm not really sure vapers are willing to shoulder the overhead this device will cost, plus the battery upkeep etc. Most of them will immediately flock towards the next cheaper thing. I wish people were as considerate as you think, but no. Not in a thousand years.
Exactly. There comes a point where peer to peer is not enough on its own and will have to be interconnected with a bigger system such as the internet, cellular service, satellite systems, or landline phone connections.
@@FrostCraftedMC but it is using low frequencies so only so much bandwidth it can have. If you wanted to send pictures or videos, you would have a hard time. If more people get on it, it will actually congest the network even more
@dieselphiend my point is, for such a business critical service, you would want to expect some degree of central authority to impose a set of rules and, specially, a "good enough" availability service levels. Hence, there would need to exist, at least, an enterprise grade mesh (which private users may end up prefering as well, due to better QoS) Eventually, at least 1 private organization would be laying down these setups over countries, in order to ensure service coverage. Et voilà! You have ISPs again. There are existing, and actually old, technologies to provide cheap service across small areas, such as Wi-Fi long range links, private cell phone repeaters... which a single individual could try and rig over his/her community. Therefore. Why do we even need this? To use for simple messaging over some specific locked app/protocol which apparently does not support any sort of high bandwidth usages. I see really niche usecase for this product. Basically, is sort of like a off-the-grid communication tool, only that you are still in a grid (some one else's), unless you crawl your way through this thing source code and actually have an isolated setup, if you are paranoid or a criminal. Still, you could do the same (private network mesh) with existing technology in much simpler ways. Hence. Why?
french already did this. Take a look at their country side. Some supermarkets do exist but their main selling products are chemicals and products that you can't produce at home, majority of food is from local farmers. Quality food, similar price.
I'm pretty sure there are all sorts of open-source devices which could connect to it. If there aren't, I'll be angry. 😂Nah, it'd be absolutely absurd for this not to use open standards or well-documented protocols for its short-range connections, so it will connect to many hobbyist-designed open-source devices.
@@hanslain9729 there's an add-on that brings them back. It's a shame RUclips removed them to censor the discourse against Biden during the fraudulent 2020 election
God I wish you would stop overselling the crap out of every product, project or video you cover/produce. It is tiresome and makes your content, which can be actually pretty entertaining/informative, hard to watch. So over the top every time, disingenuous and just plain tacky. Just be real man. People will love it. This click bait RUclips marketing brain is just getting shameful at this point. Just showcase what you've got, it's awesome without the fluff! You make good content! Let it stand on its own without the crap. You don't need it like others do!
It only bothers me when i fall for it by only watching what grabs my attention via thumbnail. I try not to let the “ phone killer “ algorithm nonsense be the reason I watch. I try to either watch videos from creators I already trust where the subject matter fits to my interests or I look at videos out of simple curiosity knowing that even when I don’t like the video I still try to find something to learn from it. If all else fails I just stop watching it, without regrets, knowing that I’m actually curating my feed by cutting the video short, this lets the algorithm know I didn’t like the video. I’ve never seen his videos but I recognized the tech that’s why I’m here.
@@superfly1842 lmao what, you know you can literally look up "meshtastic r1" and get results that look exactly like this for exactly the product being presented in the video, right
@@jamess1787 "Who calls these days?" I would say hundreds of millions worldwide. What I'm able to arrange by call in one minute, you will be typing like an ldiot half an hour.
I wish you explained exactly what it does at the start. You said it utilises cell towers to create a peer to peer connection. But what does that mean exactly? Does it call the other one? Do you have to use your phone to do the communicating? What exactly are messages? Like SMS? Something else? Halfway through and I’m still confused. Okay you finally explained it. That looks really cool. I can definitely see utility in it. Particularly as it continues to evolve
For national parks, assuming that a mesh like service coverage area could be made for it for continuous service, these could hypothetically solve some issues for the campers in that area if they need to get in contact with emergency services, or even the forestry service wanting to talk amongst themselves. That being said, there have been no videos to suggest these can function that way.
It's a myth, meshtastic doesn't work in the woods, so if your in the desert, you might be in luck but if there's trees or mountains, your better off using a messenger pigeon
@@Ajmp2236 Thanks, saved me most of a quarter-hour. Woods and hills are exactly where I'd want to use this, if it worked. I think I'll stick with the cell network which mostly does actually work around here. It mostly works for map apps, it should be fine for little texts if I need them.
Seems to be good technology for emergency situations. I live in New Orleans, La where we have frequent cell outtages during hurricane season and festivals like Mardi Gras. Maybe even good for off grid living/ tech homesteading/ compound living.
For the first thing: iPhones now lets you send messages over satellite out of the box (from very recent, like 2 months ago), and that will let you contact anyone else with an iPhone from a location with 0 mobile reception, or also to emergency services. Even further, if you have mobile network support for this new feature (verizon now has it) you can also send a standard SMS also over satellite to absolutely anyone. Worth looking into! I even came across an article titled "This iPhone feature could save your life in a hurricane" (google that) -- so people are already doing it!
@@ValTek_Armory and the network falls over if too many people connect as the same messages get repeated by everyone in the node they bounce around like Pachinko balls
These Communication Devices Aren't Currently Regulated Yet, But As Soon As It Gets On The Governments Radar, They'll Regulate It, Tax It, And Big Tech Will Take Over The Technology To Advance It And Track It For The Government! ✌️
10km is nothing, I guess you never heard of Motorola 35 mile walkie talkies.....56.32 km. They're about 100.00 for a pair, multichannel, multi frequency, etc etc.
@Ninurtha1 the government has already shown that it doesn’t care what the Supreme Court or the constitution says. They’ll flat out ignore the courts and the people will just go along with what the government says.
No, this one "plugs" into a network of all other devices that do this and sends the packets over it. You don't have to be close to the other node, they don't even have to connect to each other. They just have to "see" somebody else in the meshtastic network. It's basically the internet, but off the internet. Using a different technology which has soooooo much more range than wi-fi, but it's super slow because of it. Great for text, or sensors sending data. You can also install a more powerful version of this on your roof and basically become a "cell tower" for people near you, to give back to the community
@@FAB1150 So as soon as everyone gets one of these it'll be useful. Until then it's a walki-talki. Also, it doesn't do voice as far as I can see, and definitely isn't doing web browsing of any kind, which is one of the main things people use their phones for at this point. So it's a shitty beeper at this point with no one using it.
This is interesting. few things I would love to see in the future, - fastest and easies way to connect one devices with multiple devices. - 1 R1 device for main (act as main business). another R1 for clients (multiple devices can connect anywhere within 5-10km radius) - API for main business to send notifications to subscribers (clients)
Yeah.. without a massive coverage i can't see this competing with anything. Like someone already commented - this technology should be implemented into an actual phone device and not the separate device, it should also work as a hotspot to provide mesh infrastructure with phones nearby which do not have this technology. The security risk is massive, every connection should be encrypted and terminated if another device intercepts it.
@@joshuachubb9397 I don't think control is the right term for this. Its only partially about being semi anonymous and more about independent infrastructure which works without the need of infrastructure from some service provider. If being able to use your phone and communicate with people is what you need, then you can just use existing services and it's fine. More so if frequencies can be easily intercepted by the third party, then you have same or even less amount of control for your anonymity. So what we are left with is the cost. If you are planing to use it on your isolated from the world farm walkie-talkie might be cheaper option.
My great grands watched this with us kiddies and they were reminded of playing telephone. With cups and string. It took how many years of that before we got our first blackberries they asked???? A long long long time. Then there was no innovation after that. So.
It's good and all but it's still limited to line of sight and because of that the range is still fairly short. Plus it's using 915 antenna, would be good to have it swappable for compliance to different regions
Imagine this in reverse. So we’ve picked up this device today. It can text, make calls, do video, browse the internet, call anyone anywhere in the world, and you don’t need line of sight. I dunno…. Seems like phones win.
@@pauls5745 it’s not as if you can’t listen in on radio transmissions, likely more easily. Encryption solves this. Encryption exists on both devices. Not saying you can’t use these radios for specific use cases, but it’s hard to see how you escape from the sheer utility of a phone, which already saturated the market.
Pretty cool reuse for 900 mHz frequencies. I'd like to see signal tests of the unit outside the carbon fiber printed case. Carbon fiber can affect the capability of the antenna to send and receive.
This is how excited Id be to play with toy walkie talkies. As a kid, hype af. Nothing compared to the power of phones though. Phones control our way of life. Its more than just calls and texts lol.
@joshuachubb9397 yeah Phones are definitely a double edged sword. It's nice to fantasize about the way of life before they blew into the forefront of our very existence, but I think it's unrealistic to speculate a world without them anymore. At least in the modernized societies, we've grown so dependent on the constant stimulation, it's difficult to imagine that people in today's age would let that technology go, as nice as it is to wish for at times for the sake of our community and even sanity
The biggest fear factor isn't the phones themselves but the minds behind the engineering companies, producing hardware and software to consume our humanity for the sake of short lived pleasure. We put so much energy into this digital life that when we try to engage in our physical reality, there's minimal interest from most involved in the digital dystopia. There will come resolution but I'm not sure how or whether it will happen in our lifetime.
so? do you really constant communication if cell service goes down? you just keep about with your day until they're back up. Unless you're on an expedition where cell service doesnt exist, in which case, get a fucking walkie talkie. They're a fraction of the price, have batteries that can be swapped, and don't rely on the function of another device to be useful.
Can i use this to make a phone call to a POTS network? Its neat if its a separate, private network, but not very useful if it isnt interoperable with existing infrastructure.
Why would you want to regress technology. Your phone can do more than this. A walkie talkie can do more than this. What's the point? You couldn't even text your spouse when you're at work unless you work right down the street from your house.
WARNING!! some of the developers/mods on the meshtastic discord are ban crazy. if you try to help people by awnsering their questions you will get banned.
It seems like a lot of your videos get into controversies. You have cringe ways to get people to subscribe and hidden sponsorships with outlandish claims like "the end of phone providers".
I agree with that but there is a reason for LoRa devices,they can be very very useful in a emergency especially during or after a hurricane or earthquake.
so... here's the question... thinking of the comments from around 14:20. As opposed to using USB serial, could you use an Android or iPhone to update the firmware on the R1 because you're just saving a file to "the flash drive"? Seems like that may end up being more of an advantage than a drawback.
Okay I'm going to buy me one. I'm going to try it out and I'm let your guys know what's going on and how I feel about the device. This is The new wave 🌊 wave of technology thank you for the video and letting us know about this device. Everybody have a wonderful day. Thank you😊💯👋😎💪🇵🇷👍👍🍾✌️🆒🆗🏆
10km is nothing, I guess you never heard of Motorola 35 mile walkie talkies.....56.32 km. They're about 100.00 for a pair, multichannel, multi frequency, etc etc.
I’m struggling to understand the use case. Why would I want unencrypted text messages when I could just install WiFi routers with directional antennas and get far greater bandwidth and encryption, or else just use existing unencrypted voice radio technology?
His voice sounds so jovial and enlightening whilst his face looks like its perpetually trapped in ptsd flashback nightmare. Bro looks like hes constantly reliving having his squad wiped out in ukraine and being the sole survivor
certainly has some niche use cases but as mentioned by many others , not going to effect phone companies. I did think of use cases like search and rescue in areas with low/no cel signal so could be used in addition to walkie talkies. For example , different search pods looking in different areas, one pod with a doctor and another pod finds the target who is injured - they can explain things via walkie talkies but it isnt always clear, text messages are clearer and you could also send photos to help diagnose things. Or another use case is in areas with high cel saturation , like at sports events / festivals - security and stewards could be provided with these to ensure stable communications. Niche uses, but useful
If i understand correctly..its a way to bypass the heavily watched big brother cell networks. Not useless if you highly value privacy over convenience.
This honestly makes the most sense for a total grid down scenario. I don’t see any benefit to this otherwise. You would need one of these nodes every so often in a circular area to make it worth any value outside a set of long range walkie talkies, or even a CB/HAM radio truthfully.
This is a very interesting device/ technology. I think it could actually be a potentially useful tool for my family as we travel a lot out of county, and out of urban areas. the though of a portable network system is really exciting...
Potatoes are putting light bulb Companys out of business as well.. Yes, you can use a potato to light a light bulb because the potato's acids, water, and sugar create an electric current when certain metals are inserted into it. This is because the metals act as electrodes, with one becoming positive and the other negative, and electrons flow between them. You can connect wires from the electrodes to a light bulb to create a circuit and make the bulb light up. Here are some tips for using a potato to light a bulb: Use the right metals: Use copper as the anode and zinc as the cathode. Steel nails won't work. Make a secure connection: Use alligator clips to connect the wires to the electrodes. Increase the power: Connect multiple potatoes together in a series to increase the voltage. Boil the potato: Boiling a potato for about eight minutes can increase its power output. One study found that a boiled potato can power enough LED lamps to light a room for 40 days. (Next Time The Power Goes Out During A Bad Storm, Ditch The Candles, Just Plug In Your Leftover From Dinner!) Feels like were moving backwards Using This Tech
I thought LoRa Meshtastic devices suffered from being prone to network congestion? With the protocol prioritizing range over signal strength its prone to dropped messages. I think reticulum is a better alternative for large scale self-scaling networks because it doesnt suffer from network congestion. Its shorter range and better for a dense network of nodes but going long range is still possible if youre willing to setup an old dish or work with hf
I may have missed it, but I didn't see where/how you connected the two R1s to talk to each other. All I saw was connecting the app to the radio via BT. So how do the two radios know they should be talking together?
amazing. this also makes me want to use something like an R1, and have a completely private wireless network at home, that's at nonstandard frequencies. i wonder how hard that would be to setup. even if it's low bandwidth.....
![Seungmin "그렇게, 천천히, 우리(As we are)" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kAzmhLHePqU/mqdefault.jpg)
Might as well subscribe if you are reading this
Lol. Nuh, I'll just dislike the video and any other clickbait trash you put out, simp.
The video is not clear on what this does or doesn't do, can it voice call, and watch youtube? If not, you should make that very clear and the video is misleading.
If the world ends and grid is down...we have bigger problems and im pretty sure this device is not going to help much.
Don't delete comments. Your video is clickbait trash, own it.
Dammit! Stop making me buy random awesome gadgets! lol
(keep up the great work, DS!)
A vape that can send text messages? That’s like every Zoomer’s dream device.
I feel like this could be a future video topic for Crazy Ken… I like being wrong though 😂
The catch is, it's not refillable lol
😂
I am 100% making that, and I'm adding speech to text; also text to speech for when people respond.
Should I integrate noise cancellation into the vape unit? There's a sentence you don't see every day lol but it's an opportunity for RISCV to create a tiny market slice, too small to even be niche but enough for a single dev to make some $$$ without paying asinine royalties to capital/investment management companies, which own all the really good commercial tools at this point.
funny enough they exist there's lots of vapes that run android and yes even disposables
If disposable vape manufacturers started including these LoRa chips in those new full color display vapes and gaming vapes we would have a robust national and possibly international wireless mesh network within days.
Just Do it!
You recreated the plot of silicon valley but with vapes
@@discoverneweyesthe remake
Wireless wifi ejuice would be nice
I'm not really sure vapers are willing to shoulder the overhead this device will cost, plus the battery upkeep etc. Most of them will immediately flock towards the next cheaper thing.
I wish people were as considerate as you think, but no. Not in a thousand years.
Oh man, wait till you hear about walkie talkies.
wow
Ham radio
I don't think walkie talkies are encrypted
@@cutty02you just have to talk in pig latin, duhhhh!
I have a set of Motorola walkies that par with your android to share GPS maps and whatever ekse they do I bought 5 years ago
The beginning of the end of smartphones.
Step 1: connect your smartphone to the device.
Bonk! 😂
He didn't say smartphones, he said cell carriers like T-Mobile and Google fi.
@@RYLIK_89 1:50
“ZE BLuEtOoTH DeViCe issA rEaDy to PeAr” 💀💀💀
😂😂@@DavoR7724
Okay, this isn't a threat to cell companies, but it is amazing technology. I can see all kinds of potential uses for it.
good for remote camping locations where you still might need to contact people at camp while you're out hiking or something
Exactly. There comes a point where peer to peer is not enough on its own and will have to be interconnected with a bigger system such as the internet, cellular service, satellite systems, or landline phone connections.
it has the potential to be a threat to cell companies if everyone had one
@@FrostCraftedMC but it is using low frequencies so only so much bandwidth it can have. If you wanted to send pictures or videos, you would have a hard time. If more people get on it, it will actually congest the network even more
Not to cell phone companies but to cell services providers 😉
"bro pass me that vape i saw it in your pocket"
Seriously I thought this was a joke lmao
thats why i clicked the video
i thought the same, how tf vape kills phone? but it was misunderstanding via brainrot.
This sounds like saying supermarkets are dying because anyone could produce tomatoes in their backyard 😂
It wouldn't be hard to get it off the ground. Just give out a hundred or so according to where they live, within, say, a city or county.
@dieselphiend my point is, for such a business critical service, you would want to expect some degree of central authority to impose a set of rules and, specially, a "good enough" availability service levels.
Hence, there would need to exist, at least, an enterprise grade mesh (which private users may end up prefering as well, due to better QoS)
Eventually, at least 1 private organization would be laying down these setups over countries, in order to ensure service coverage. Et voilà! You have ISPs again.
There are existing, and actually old, technologies to provide cheap service across small areas, such as Wi-Fi long range links, private cell phone repeaters... which a single individual could try and rig over his/her community.
Therefore. Why do we even need this? To use for simple messaging over some specific locked app/protocol which apparently does not support any sort of high bandwidth usages.
I see really niche usecase for this product. Basically, is sort of like a off-the-grid communication tool, only that you are still in a grid (some one else's), unless you crawl your way through this thing source code and actually have an isolated setup, if you are paranoid or a criminal.
Still, you could do the same (private network mesh) with existing technology in much simpler ways. Hence. Why?
french already did this. Take a look at their country side. Some supermarkets do exist but their main selling products are chemicals and products that you can't produce at home, majority of food is from local farmers. Quality food, similar price.
@@auguststas7770 Is there something like this in the US or North America?
@@Kazekoge101 meshtastic is open source hardware and software. You can make your own.
MOM, THE TECHBROS REINVENTED WALKIE TALKIES AGAIN
Sorta....kinda.... :)
it's a walkie talky with extra steps and text messaging.
Cell phone killer: requires phone. Phone not included
😂
Sperm killer as well. 😅
I'm pretty sure there are all sorts of open-source devices which could connect to it. If there aren't, I'll be angry. 😂Nah, it'd be absolutely absurd for this not to use open standards or well-documented protocols for its short-range connections, so it will connect to many hobbyist-designed open-source devices.
It's clear that he's referring to mobile data, you absolute dum person
Cell phone providers, not cell phone manufacturers
So walkie talkies that you can't talk on.
I feel like my time was robbed.
Not only is it a walkie talkie you can't talk on, but also a vape you can't vape on.
This is why we need dislike counters visible again.
@@hanslain9729 there's an add-on that brings them back. It's a shame RUclips removed them to censor the discourse against Biden during the fraudulent 2020 election
@@hanslain9729 they were unfortunately disabled after biden won in order to hide his unpopularity. Thanks, Google!
seriously how dumb is this SHIT
God I wish you would stop overselling the crap out of every product, project or video you cover/produce. It is tiresome and makes your content, which can be actually pretty entertaining/informative, hard to watch. So over the top every time, disingenuous and just plain tacky. Just be real man. People will love it. This click bait RUclips marketing brain is just getting shameful at this point. Just showcase what you've got, it's awesome without the fluff! You make good content! Let it stand on its own without the crap. You don't need it like others do!
Yes.
All he cares about is numbers, he even is saying so in the video. He is an algorithm b*tch :D
Facts !!!!!
gotta play the RUclips algorithm game to get noticed unfortunately.
It only bothers me when i fall for it by only watching what grabs my attention via thumbnail. I try not to let the “ phone killer “ algorithm nonsense be the reason I watch. I try to either watch videos from creators I already trust where the subject matter fits to my interests or I look at videos out of simple curiosity knowing that even when I don’t like the video I still try to find something to learn from it. If all else fails I just stop watching it, without regrets, knowing that I’m actually curating my feed by cutting the video short, this lets the algorithm know I didn’t like the video. I’ve never seen his videos but I recognized the tech that’s why I’m here.
0:03 "this is no ordinary communication device" thank god, and here i was thinking these were vapes /j
+1
😂
it is a vape, video is a gag. lol
@@superfly1842 lmao what, you know you can literally look up "meshtastic r1" and get results that look exactly like this for exactly the product being presented in the video, right
Mega amps?. No, no, no, my friend. That is Milli Amp. 1000th of an amp, Not a million amps. That battery would be worth millions.
Thank you for confirming it most likely being milli amp, I'm super baked and confused with the mega amp thinking this is really high power gadget 😶🌫️
wow
@@Tokermon Batteries put out milliamps. Power plants put out mega amps.
@@forgeteverythingyouknow5413 yeah I gathered that from my vape and phone battery thanks!! 👍
MEGAWATTS@@forgeteverythingyouknow5413
What flavor vape is that
black licorice
Grape 🍇
Blueberry 😂
Magic smoke
That’s a phone
A "phone killer" that can't make calls.... LMAO
HILARIOUS
Who calls these days? There's also WiFi calling if you need that face-time
@@jamess1787 not everyone is GEN-Zidiots , we call
Haha
@@jamess1787 you probably never had a meaningful job 😅
@@jamess1787 "Who calls these days?" I would say hundreds of millions worldwide. What I'm able to arrange by call in one minute, you will be typing like an ldiot half an hour.
I wish you explained exactly what it does at the start. You said it utilises cell towers to create a peer to peer connection. But what does that mean exactly? Does it call the other one? Do you have to use your phone to do the communicating? What exactly are messages? Like SMS? Something else? Halfway through and I’m still confused. Okay you finally explained it. That looks really cool. I can definitely see utility in it. Particularly as it continues to evolve
Tfw you accidentally hit your wifi extender and get zooted
Omfg DED
🤣🤣🤣🤣
wow
For national parks, assuming that a mesh like service coverage area could be made for it for continuous service, these could hypothetically solve some issues for the campers in that area if they need to get in contact with emergency services, or even the forestry service wanting to talk amongst themselves.
That being said, there have been no videos to suggest these can function that way.
Nah, commercial land mobile radio fills that void in VHF, UHF, and 800 band widths.
Hell even CB radio works better probably to be honest.
this is a great way to stay connected in more remote areas but it wont replace a pocket sized laptop.
wow
Technically anything pocket sized can be placed on top of your lap
It's a myth, meshtastic doesn't work in the woods, so if your in the desert, you might be in luck but if there's trees or mountains, your better off using a messenger pigeon
@@Ajmp2236 Thanks, saved me most of a quarter-hour. Woods and hills are exactly where I'd want to use this, if it worked. I think I'll stick with the cell network which mostly does actually work around here. It mostly works for map apps, it should be fine for little texts if I need them.
Seems to be good technology for emergency situations. I live in New Orleans, La where we have frequent cell outtages during hurricane season and festivals like Mardi Gras. Maybe even good for off grid living/ tech homesteading/ compound living.
For the first thing: iPhones now lets you send messages over satellite out of the box (from very recent, like 2 months ago), and that will let you contact anyone else with an iPhone from a location with 0 mobile reception, or also to emergency services. Even further, if you have mobile network support for this new feature (verizon now has it) you can also send a standard SMS also over satellite to absolutely anyone. Worth looking into! I even came across an article titled "This iPhone feature could save your life in a hurricane" (google that) -- so people are already doing it!
I like Helium’s implementation of Lorawan. Pay the host and incentivize them to do proper antenna placement. Connect to Wi-Fi/Ethernet.
I LOVE helium too! 💗 this little guy is still cool though
I have a helium device ...
I'm looking at getting the helium sim card for free cell service
First, we had bitcoin as decentralized money, now we had R1 as decentralized communication.
Long Live FOSS 🙏
In my area (Metro Detroit) I never once was able to connect to another node. My meshtastic excitement went from 100 to 0 and my gear collects dust.
That is the problem with niche tech. If nobody adopts it, then it is effectively useless
@@ValTek_Armory and the network falls over if too many people connect as the same messages get repeated by everyone in the node they bounce around like Pachinko balls
Boy, that is a head-turner. I gotta say, this is design chef's kiss.
These Communication Devices Aren't Currently Regulated Yet, But As Soon As It Gets On The Governments Radar, They'll Regulate It, Tax It, And Big Tech Will Take Over The Technology To Advance It And Track It For The Government! ✌️
No longer. Chevron deference supreme Court decision put all that in the out house. America is back.
10km is nothing, I guess you never heard of Motorola 35 mile walkie talkies.....56.32 km. They're about 100.00 for a pair, multichannel, multi frequency, etc etc.
Says the person who capitalizes every single word.
@@bits360wastaken Now Why Does That Trigger "YOU"?
@Ninurtha1 the government has already shown that it doesn’t care what the Supreme Court or the constitution says. They’ll flat out ignore the courts and the people will just go along with what the government says.
That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!
Wow, they reinvented the radio walki-talki!
closer to HAM packet radio. i've been sending messages around the world that way with my Commodore 64 for years! 😀
Exactly
@@JimmPratti agree
No, this one "plugs" into a network of all other devices that do this and sends the packets over it. You don't have to be close to the other node, they don't even have to connect to each other. They just have to "see" somebody else in the meshtastic network.
It's basically the internet, but off the internet. Using a different technology which has soooooo much more range than wi-fi, but it's super slow because of it. Great for text, or sensors sending data.
You can also install a more powerful version of this on your roof and basically become a "cell tower" for people near you, to give back to the community
@@FAB1150 So as soon as everyone gets one of these it'll be useful. Until then it's a walki-talki.
Also, it doesn't do voice as far as I can see, and definitely isn't doing web browsing of any kind, which is one of the main things people use their phones for at this point.
So it's a shitty beeper at this point with no one using it.
This is interesting. few things I would love to see in the future,
- fastest and easies way to connect one devices with multiple devices.
- 1 R1 device for main (act as main business). another R1 for clients (multiple devices can connect anywhere within 5-10km radius)
- API for main business to send notifications to subscribers (clients)
There was a unit like this from a company called Beartooth a while back. They don't offer it anymore but neat idea
wow
He's taking a video of the "phone killer" with his phone 😂😂
Yeah he didn't script the introduction obviously, the correct wording was telecom company alternative. That's obviously what he means.
Yeah.. without a massive coverage i can't see this competing with anything. Like someone already commented - this technology should be implemented into an actual phone device and not the separate device, it should also work as a hotspot to provide mesh infrastructure with phones nearby which do not have this technology. The security risk is massive, every connection should be encrypted and terminated if another device intercepts it.
They are assuming you want more control over your wireless communications not less.
@@joshuachubb9397 I don't think control is the right term for this. Its only partially about being semi anonymous and more about independent infrastructure which works without the need of infrastructure from some service provider. If being able to use your phone and communicate with people is what you need, then you can just use existing services and it's fine. More so if frequencies can be easily intercepted by the third party, then you have same or even less amount of control for your anonymity. So what we are left with is the cost. If you are planing to use it on your isolated from the world farm walkie-talkie might be cheaper option.
Thank you for using metric system sometimes! It brings a lot of clarity for us outside US! :)
You need to change your thumbnail and title. It does not represent what the product does.
That’s how click bait works… draws you in falsely. He isn’t getting rid of his phone. 😅
Time to dig through my boxes of old stuff and pull out my WALKIE TALKIES! They go further!!
Wish my productive ham radio channel had this much activity. At least i explain it better.
My great grands watched this with us kiddies and they were reminded of playing telephone. With cups and string. It took how many years of that before we got our first blackberries they asked???? A long long long time. Then there was no innovation after that. So.
Imagine if cell phone manufacturers included a LoRa radio on their phones...
wow
"Matthew, is that a vape on your desk?"
"No, Ms. Morgan. It's my Lora mesh network transceiver device"
I feel like this technology has been around for decades but we're just now being allowed to use it.
I concur....
If you know about it, it's 20+ years old.
like every other technology.
pictochat?????
DARPA has had EVERY bit of tech we use for about 40 years before it reaches us ..
Fascinating exploration of LoRa mesh networks as an alternative to traditional cell service. Great technical breakdown of the technology.
I just came to see if anyone else thought this looks like a vape
This is exactly what I've been looking for. You earned a subscriber. I want to see what everyone will build with this
It's good and all but it's still limited to line of sight and because of that the range is still fairly short. Plus it's using 915 antenna, would be good to have it swappable for compliance to different regions
It is swappable. The antenna. The battery. The case. Even the board. Can find a lot on etsy, amazon, aliexpress etc
Not really, depending on how many people around you use it. You can communicate with any device in your mesh over multiple hops.
that's why it's a mesh
Elevated position and line of sight. So what happens when you’re in the subway and the other person is on the other side of the mountain?
Probably won’t work with that small antenna
I wouldn't log on to my bank account with this
It's NOT FOR THAT PURPOSE.
@@gilmoreskeen1234We know. It was either a joke or Sarcastic. Even i got that part
Imagine this in reverse.
So we’ve picked up this device today. It can text, make calls, do video, browse the internet, call anyone anywhere in the world, and you don’t need line of sight.
I dunno…. Seems like phones win.
but phones need a biased 3rd party as a go between, ensure regulation and give up the ghost if the feds come knocking.
@@pauls5745 it’s not as if you can’t listen in on radio transmissions, likely more easily.
Encryption solves this. Encryption exists on both devices.
Not saying you can’t use these radios for specific use cases, but it’s hard to see how you escape from the sheer utility of a phone, which already saturated the market.
with this we are going to the old radio time😂
Pretty cool reuse for 900 mHz frequencies. I'd like to see signal tests of the unit outside the carbon fiber printed case. Carbon fiber can affect the capability of the antenna to send and receive.
it looks like pla filament from a 3d printer, it's definitely not carbon fiber.
what do ya do, whistle with that vape? 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Amazing info, small correction the battery capacity is not "Mega-amps", it is "milli amp hours"
Imagine if every smartphone had a radio built-in that could do this ... LOL
technically your built-in GSM radio can be used for 900 mhz LORAWAN communication but the vendors have the baseband processor completely locked down
A phone killer that needs a phone to work ..... very clever title.
This is how excited Id be to play with toy walkie talkies. As a kid, hype af. Nothing compared to the power of phones though. Phones control our way of life. Its more than just calls and texts lol.
Next question. Should phones be controlling our way of life? If yes, then continue. If no, then maybe let's take this step away from them?
@joshuachubb9397 yeah Phones are definitely a double edged sword. It's nice to fantasize about the way of life before they blew into the forefront of our very existence, but I think it's unrealistic to speculate a world without them anymore. At least in the modernized societies, we've grown so dependent on the constant stimulation, it's difficult to imagine that people in today's age would let that technology go, as nice as it is to wish for at times for the sake of our community and even sanity
The biggest fear factor isn't the phones themselves but the minds behind the engineering companies, producing hardware and software to consume our humanity for the sake of short lived pleasure. We put so much energy into this digital life that when we try to engage in our physical reality, there's minimal interest from most involved in the digital dystopia. There will come resolution but I'm not sure how or whether it will happen in our lifetime.
@@johnbolieau4227 It's really not a big deal to step away from the phone/computer for the better part of a day. Try it.
Been waiting for this for years. Niiice. So much can be done with this.
Wow! A portable repeater! Wow! Wow! Wow!! There's NEVER a MESH technology out in the market UNTIL NOW!
wow
Wow
Wow
What stops these devices from calling like traditional walkie-talkies? Is it the diminishing data transpher at longer ranges?
The people saying "it's not adequate technology" are the same people who don't have shit when they're cell service goes down, keep up the good work
wow
so? do you really constant communication if cell service goes down? you just keep about with your day until they're back up. Unless you're on an expedition where cell service doesnt exist, in which case, get a fucking walkie talkie. They're a fraction of the price, have batteries that can be swapped, and don't rely on the function of another device to be useful.
@unoriginalname3442 bro my family lives 215 miles north of me you're dense asf
Can i use this to make a phone call to a POTS network? Its neat if its a separate, private network, but not very useful if it isnt interoperable with existing infrastructure.
why do i have a feeling this isnt gonna go far.
wow
It'll go about... 10km lmao. Useless
No need for cars, we can all just walk.. 😂
I'm all for decentralized cell service. 😎🤖
wow
But it's not
Not a threat because you need line of sight. It is too low power to penetrate walls very well or even deep enough.
Nice looking vape
wow
Great to see the 4 ambassadors.
4:00 mega ampere is crazy
The vape function seems like the most important!
If they can add a screen, sort of like how old pagers used to be, I'd be 4000% in
Yeah but old pagers are still way better than this thing is
I just looked pagers only cost $5 a year and they are text pagers anywhere in the world
Pager for factor with open network that tells you of other users are near by. That could be useful. I could see this being used for very bad purposes.
Why would you want to regress technology. Your phone can do more than this. A walkie talkie can do more than this. What's the point? You couldn't even text your spouse when you're at work unless you work right down the street from your house.
Pagers are even more useless. I don't know why anyone ever even used them. When would you need to text someone TWO miles away?
When you are range testing keep it upright. The cross polarization loss between a horizontal and vertical device is not to be disregarded
WARNING!!
some of the developers/mods on the meshtastic discord are ban crazy. if you try to help people by awnsering their questions you will get banned.
Lovely Ban banners Fork Mestastic to be for freedom of speech and not Didel Bidel drones.
Not my experience.
perfect gift for my friend that owns a WRX
It seems like a lot of your videos get into controversies. You have cringe ways to get people to subscribe and hidden sponsorships with outlandish claims like "the end of phone providers".
I agree with that but there is a reason for LoRa devices,they can be very very useful in a emergency especially during or after a hurricane or earthquake.
Why don't the links go to products that look like the one(s) featured in this video?
Awsome, for just text...😂 wake me up when I can send VOICE!!!!!!!!
wow
That's what I was thinking it did according to the title! Carriers have nothing to worry about with a free text walkie talkie
What camera do you use? I love that zooming lol
Walkie talkies already exist
wow
so... here's the question... thinking of the comments from around 14:20. As opposed to using USB serial, could you use an Android or iPhone to update the firmware on the R1 because you're just saving a file to "the flash drive"? Seems like that may end up being more of an advantage than a drawback.
Okay I'm going to buy me one. I'm going to try it out and I'm let your guys know what's going on and how I feel about the device. This is The new wave 🌊 wave of technology thank you for the video and letting us know about this device. Everybody have a wonderful day. Thank you😊💯👋😎💪🇵🇷👍👍🍾✌️🆒🆗🏆
The tech isn't new. It's just packaged to sell now
Don't bother. Mestastic has some serious limitations.
10km is nothing, I guess you never heard of Motorola 35 mile walkie talkies.....56.32 km. They're about 100.00 for a pair, multichannel, multi frequency, etc etc.
Nice vape bro, does it have calling feature
Looks like a vape lol
I’m struggling to understand the use case. Why would I want unencrypted text messages when I could just install WiFi routers with directional antennas and get far greater bandwidth and encryption, or else just use existing unencrypted voice radio technology?
Coo, coo, cool but where do you add the e-juuce
Comments are:
50% vape references
50% walkie talkie
100% hoodspeak/AAVE
His voice sounds so jovial and enlightening whilst his face looks like its perpetually trapped in ptsd flashback nightmare. Bro looks like hes constantly reliving having his squad wiped out in ukraine and being the sole survivor
certainly has some niche use cases but as mentioned by many others , not going to effect phone companies. I did think of use cases like search and rescue in areas with low/no cel signal so could be used in addition to walkie talkies. For example , different search pods looking in different areas, one pod with a doctor and another pod finds the target who is injured - they can explain things via walkie talkies but it isnt always clear, text messages are clearer and you could also send photos to help diagnose things. Or another use case is in areas with high cel saturation , like at sports events / festivals - security and stewards could be provided with these to ensure stable communications. Niche uses, but useful
If i understand correctly..its a way to bypass the heavily watched big brother cell networks. Not useless if you highly value privacy over convenience.
Could this work in a crowd like at a festival where competing for cellular connectivity with tons of devices isn't an option?
This honestly makes the most sense for a total grid down scenario. I don’t see any benefit to this otherwise. You would need one of these nodes every so often in a circular area to make it worth any value outside a set of long range walkie talkies, or even a CB/HAM radio truthfully.
To compare to radios, this seems like an analog for radio repeaters. Cool idea, with similar limitations.
4:55 so are they just miniature satellites that you can carry in your pocket that connects to other devices.
This is a very interesting device/ technology. I think it could actually be a potentially useful tool for my family as we travel a lot out of county, and out of urban areas. the though of a portable network system is really exciting...
So could you use this for live camera feed in the middle of nowhere?
Potatoes are putting light bulb Companys out of business as well..
Yes, you can use a potato to light a light bulb because the potato's acids, water, and sugar create an electric current when certain metals are inserted into it. This is because the metals act as electrodes, with one becoming positive and the other negative, and electrons flow between them. You can connect wires from the electrodes to a light bulb to create a circuit and make the bulb light up.
Here are some tips for using a potato to light a bulb:
Use the right metals: Use copper as the anode and zinc as the cathode. Steel nails won't work.
Make a secure connection: Use alligator clips to connect the wires to the electrodes.
Increase the power: Connect multiple potatoes together in a series to increase the voltage.
Boil the potato: Boiling a potato for about eight minutes can increase its power output. One study found that a boiled potato can power enough LED lamps to light a room for 40 days.
(Next Time The Power Goes Out During A Bad Storm, Ditch The Candles, Just Plug In Your Leftover From Dinner!)
Feels like were moving backwards Using This Tech
Tech like this (with encryption) will be needed for when our governments go full George Orwell.
I for sure want my data to be sent through privately owned nodes. What could potentially go wrong?
"No, no, no, no, no, this sucker's electrical, but I need a nuclear reaction to generate the 1.21 gigawatts of electricity I need."- Doc Brown
I thought LoRa Meshtastic devices suffered from being prone to network congestion? With the protocol prioritizing range over signal strength its prone to dropped messages. I think reticulum is a better alternative for large scale self-scaling networks because it doesnt suffer from network congestion. Its shorter range and better for a dense network of nodes but going long range is still possible if youre willing to setup an old dish or work with hf
Can you have more than one node you connect to? Say you want a family of 4 to be able to communicate in a secure group?
I may have missed it, but I didn't see where/how you connected the two R1s to talk to each other. All I saw was connecting the app to the radio via BT. So how do the two radios know they should be talking together?
amazing. this also makes me want to use something like an R1, and have a completely private wireless network at home, that's at nonstandard frequencies. i wonder how hard that would be to setup. even if it's low bandwidth.....