All the Doctors need a scary side. 9 was just inherently scary, coming straight out of the Time War. 10 was jovial on the outside, but he had a dark undercarriage. Think about how he ended up dealing with The Family of Blood, or the Time Lord Victorius moment. 11 was similar in that sense, happy-go-lucky yet hiding something more. 12 was actually the opposite though, he played the angry man but was actually a lot softer than he tried to look.
@@TheHobatron Not really no. He was more of a grumpy guy who could be soft but could be also batshit crazy. Do not confuse grumpy with angry. The 12th Doctor could get really angry.
@@hououinkyouma3864 This is just my opinion, but I still think 12 was bigger on threats, but when it actually came down to it, he was quite softer in his "choices" than 9,10 or 11th doctor (again, "quite" softer, not completely).
ClintonKelly87 It angers me because this is EXACTLY what a human being would fucking do. It would enslave another race without giving it a first thought because we are despicable race.
Chris Soto To be fair, it's not like the people had much of a choice, story-wise. I mean it was either capture the whale and live, or die. The very fact that there is a 'forget' button when making that decision, means people have most certainly given it great thought, and the decision is so painful they'd rather not remember making it. So instead of 'despicable race' etc, it's more like, making an incredibly difficult decision, out of desperation for their survival.
I love how it cuts to the Doctor when it says Last of Its Kind, like he feels for the whale because he IS the whale. Keeping humanity alive and well, alone.
the idea that the doctor feels trapped in his role, that humanity will forever be in its infancy until the end of time and the doctor must always be there to set things right. humanity neutered the doctor and used his compassion to do it.
It's not the drug, it's the doctor who impacts the drug the way he wants. And he always does anything with passion or not at all. So when he does drugs it means he is going to enjoying darkness of his darkness. ♥️😎😋👅❤️🖤😛😝😜 Obviously here I am talking about myself. Yahaya ZQ here 😎😋😊😶
This was the first sign that the Eleventh Doctor was more than a big kid in an adult body. Something darker. Something angrier. That part of the whole "big kid" personality is an act.
With every regeneration, the doctor became more self-controlled. Because he buried deeper and deeper his regret and guilt for his decision. That's why Eccelston was so angry and brutal. That's why Tennant was so Stoic. That's why Smith is so Childish. It's all the means of running away. They later of course wrote in that they actually saved everyone, completely denying Capaldi these feelings. But oh well.
That's different, the rules of time travel had to come first. Even if he did find out eventually, for all they knew they could break time. P.S. It's Silencio
Tacita Koe Exactly. He thought he was protecting her by keeping the information, just like Amy wanted to protect him from having to choose between the star whale or humanity. It came from a good place but it was not their choice to make Tomos Jones He wasn't sure, but he had strong suspicions. He knew there was something wrong with her pregnancy after he scanned her and he chose not to tell her or Rory.
"There were billions of them, they lived in the depths of space and according to legend, guided the early space travelers through the asteroid belt. This one as far as we are aware is the last of it's kind." *cuts to the last Galifreyan, the Time Lord Victorious, the Doctor*
@@emdex618 there are some episodes which touch base on how far his morality stretches when confronted with more aggressive/predatory species.. but as a whole the doctor is always conflicted when it comes to genocide. Imo the Doctors soulmate is river song
@@AliceEyler I think 12 was the least dark out of 9,10,11 and 12. He was the opposite of 11, the cheery facade to hide the rage and loneliness within, 12 had a grumpy and harsh facade to hide how much he cares and how kind he truly was, that facade slowly lifts throughout his run.
"And then I'll find a new name 'cause I won't be the Doctor anymore..." Damn, even back in 2010 Moffat had the idea of the Doctor not calling himself the Doctor, and thus the idea of the War Doctor was born.
He is, he just has flaws, like all writers. On one thing he wouldn't be able to write it without messing up, on another thing he could do the most fantastic thing.
I don't think Moffat came up with the War Doctor idea that early. But all writers have ideas they keep coming back to. Stuff that fascinates and inspires them to no end. Moffat imagined being "the Doctor" as a choice this Time Lord makes. He can be other things (e.g. a warrior) but he chooses, over and over, to be the one who helps and heals. From that general idea grew several smaller ones we've seen over the years: the Doctor's quip here, the War Doctor, Twelfth Doctor's identity crisis in season 8 (is he still a good man?), the simulated ("fake") Doctor still being able to the day in the Monks storyline, the question of the Doctor's real name being irrelevant because he is defined by the promise of the name he chose. If you know where to look, this idea of choosing to be the Doctor is everywhere in his stories. You may not like Moffat's writing but he does think about his episodes.
"The worst decision I will ever make. Nobody talk to me! Nobody HUMAN has ANYTHING TO SAY TO ME TODAY!" And on the Last Day of the Time War, Eleven opened his hearts to a human...and found another way.
He slaughtered his people and the daleks because he thought he had to or the universe itself would burn not just because of the daleks but because of the war criminals time lords like rassilon were becoming This star whale as far as he knows is innocent and doesn't deserve any harm, the sort of people he's the doctor for
One of the things the writers and Matt Smith's performance really got right about the Doctor is how he doesn't miss anything, but he will distract you so you don't notice that he noticed.
Matt really was the best at balancing the light and dark sides of the Doctor. He was so good at switching between the two and it was so endearing and yet so frightening. In my opinion the darkest and my favorite Doctor of them all.
Something i find interesting about this is how it shows that for all he admires humanity, and in spite of all the love he has for them, there is still some part of the doctor that considers himself above humanity. Not morally, but intellectually at least. "Nobody human has anything to say to me today"
The doctor is both simultaneously above and below humanity and that is what i believe is an inevitable truth the doctor faces, he preaches the good whilst being the single most genocidal being in this universe's history, he admires humanity because of his flaws and in some way detests humanity because of his strengths
The placement of this episode right after the Eleventh Hour was such a smart decision as well. This pretty much cemented 11's darkness and anger, just shimmer below the surface while establishing the Doctor's trust in Amy when she figures it out.
Steven Moffat has said before that the biggest reason they cast Matt Smith was that he had this quality of being simultaneously very YOUNG and very OLD.
One of the more touching emotion filled moments of the series. Granted there are a lot through out his regenerations such as his deaths that forced the regeneration but to me I find this one the most heartbreaking.
This whole scene screams the time war all over again. No matter how hard he can try to forget the sins of his war doctor incarnation, "he still did it, that's what counts".
The acting is what really sells this scene and makes it feel impactful, because the plot carrying it collapses in on itself with the tiniest prodding. Like you only have to ask the question "okay, but WHY would there ever be a KILL EVERYONE button made under any circumstance?" to start to see the glaring holes in the logic leading to this point. For something a bit spicier: someone much cleverer than me would be able to write a long essay about what it says about how Britain sees its monarchs that it is basically unquestioningly presented as normal that the queen has the right to kill everyone if she feels bad.
@John Jaxson 9 was horribly inconsistent with his writing. And I won't even talk about 10s god awful character. 9 forgives Rose for screwing with time, and he, (The Doctor), is the only one left that can watch it. Roses actions nearly got the Last Timelord killed. He should've been furious by that, ESPECIALLY after the Time War.
The ending to this episode doesn’t make much sense if you think about it, but this episode had stellar performances from Matt and Karen, and really helped cement their characters as believable people.
I like this episode but I hate the timing of it. It shouldn't have been the second episode. It relied heavily on Amy truly understanding the Doctor's character and fully trusting him and happens way too fast. Would have liked this episode more if it came later on the season or even season 6/7
I dunno - Amy's uncertainty with who the Doctor is - seeing him as a hero but wanting to keep him 'pure' and 'save' him from himself... that's something only someone who has an IDEA of the Doctor(rather than actually knowing him) would do. If it were Amy from the later series she PROBABLY wouldn't have made this mistake
I see what you're saying and I do respect your opinion but to me I would have to disagree. She does this because the whale was "very old and very kind and the very last of his kind" but she didn't even know he was old and the last of his kind till like 30 minutes earlier. I think she may have done the same thing if she was in love with "the idea of the Doctor" but then she'd have a different reason to do this. It'd be to be heroic like him and want to save stuff like him but not because the whale and the Doctor have similar circumstances.
She has known the doctor WAY longer than it seems though. Ever since she was a little girl, so she has this big romanticized idea of him and trusts him implicitly.
Should point out that the Twelfth Doctor later has the same problem of being unable to see himself from the outside. The Doctor has trouble accepting the existence of others who have the same outlook on life as himself, but the star whale and Robin Hood both did; never be cruel, never be cowardly.
This episode had so many ideas that weren’t explored like why do they sacrifice children who fail tests, what are the many decks, what are the smilers, I wish this episode was a special but it was still really good
This has popped up a few times in my recommended videos recently. I finally clicked. This is what Doctor Who is about kids. This. Everything that lead to this moment and everything that followed from it This is why Smith’s still one of my favourite Doctors
"Your only human." That say alot about the Doctor and his regrets. He been at this for so long, he forgets that he not thay different to the humans. That he forgets that he not some god that have deal with every blunder someone made.
This is why 11 worked, he had such rage when it was needed, he didn’t treat humans as children, there where times (such as this) where he clearly hated them. The Doctor is old, he’s seen and done so much, lost so much and suffered so much, all the childish goofing around was cover for the years of sorrow he had suffered
And he didn't need petty insults to do it. (Mostly, I think Cold Blood dives into that, but it's been a few years since I watched it.) Never did care for that two part episode personally.
@@fictiontheorizer1991 ah yes I remember those ones, they… weren’t the best, but it did indeed touch on humanities selfishness and cruelty. Which is really something 13 never did, humans where always being shown as either good or bad, with no grey. A doctor needs to be able to be dangerous, they need to be threatening in a way, they need to be able to play a character who you can look at and go “this person isn’t human, they don’t live by our rules, they keep the monsters away”
@@samuelfawell9159 Yeah Jodie was not good at being anything. To be fair, I was never scared of Peter the way I was Tennant or Matt either. Although it has been a while since I watched Peter's episodes.
The one thing that really bugged me is how the Doctor decided to kill the star whale instantly. He didn’t try to find another way or come up with a clever idea. He just gave up and decided which lives were worth more. The one constant in doctor who is that the doctor values all life the same and tries to save everybody. It felt very off brand.
He discovers the alien has been tortured for hundreds of years and if it stops, countless innocent men, women, and children die. That hits like a ton of bricks, even to the doctor. Most people presented with this information chose to immediately forget. He has enough capacity to come up with a lesser evil that will keep the people alive while ending the alien’s pain. I believe the reason he was so fast to act was because 1. He was an emotional wreak, he is just better at hiding it, and 2. He wants to get it over with quick because he knows he’ll back out otherwise, and believes that would be the worst outcome. I don’t think the reason he wants to send clara home is because he’s mad or feels really betrayed, it’s because he has already made his decision and he knows he will be a complete incorrigible wreak afterwards.
scott miles I disagree with that, what with his "Honor the Victim's First" speech, goodbye to the Ponds, Rings of Akhaten speech, farewell to River, and finally, his Regeneration, while not "I don't want to go..." levels of heartbreaking, was still a beautifully somber and emotional scene.
Tbh it's not Matt Smith's fault, its Steven Moffat's. Series 5 I think was his doctors prime. His character had so much depth and every episode I enjoyed. Everything after series 5 is where it started to slowly decrease in quality for me. Of course there are really amazing standout moments, but in the end that's exactly Moffat's style nowadays. Its usually poorly written episodes with anticlimactic resolutions to the main problem, with some really good character moments sprinkled in between that just make it worth while enough to watch. And the trend continued on into Capaldi's run. He's a great doctor with some amazing moments that are unfortunately undercut by a majority of his stories being very poorly written. I also think the problem is once Moffat establishes the character of the doctor and how he acts he'll overdo it to the point that the character almost becomes a parody of themselves. Its like hey the eleventh Doctor is super quirky and fidgety and bouncing off the wall? Okay that's just who he is now. And that one catchphrase we thought was cool that one time, were gonna have him repeat it till everyone hates it. And the same goes for Capaldi. The moment I saw him on a tank playing an electric guitar, I was like this is too much. Now this is just being over the top quirky just for the sake of it. It doesn't provide more insight or emotion to the scene. I'm very optimistic about what chibnal has in store for Jodie's doctor though. Like sure bring Moffat on for some episodes maybe every now and then because his one-off stories are wonderful, but he is not suited to be a showrunner anymore in my honest opinion.
JovialJollyJames im not saying he didnt have good moments but they put more emphasis on the humour, moments like that were spareingly in the season as a whole.
Tends to happen with all long-running shows. First season, they're given scripts that are generic in characterization, but great in story and emotion. The actor works with the scripts and develops their doctor. Second season, the writers know what works with the actors style and have a better grasp of their individual personality and get creative. You get some strong scripts, but also terrible ones ones. Third season, the recurring writers write 'safe' scripts they know will do well and the newcomers push for more elaborate content. It's the cycle of show writing, and not just for Doctor Who. Third seasons tend to be the most bland. Smith is still my fav Doctor, throughout his tenure. His Doctor is great and diverse in performance, but the writing didn't keep pace with him.
See, Matt's Doctor was the veil that Vastra talked about. Out of all of the modern Doctors, he was the Doctor that the Universe wanted. A friendly, almost childlike wanderer who would fix everything with a smile and joke. Especially when he wanted to cry. Look at a few lines. "Oh I don't care. Once we're done here, you're going home" the veil almost lifts and he shows the fury of the Time-Lord Victorious. "Yeah I know. You're only human" the veil comes is being put back on. Peter's Doctor was free to let his emotions show but always did what was right in the end. Eccleston acted on his emotions too much. However. David had to contain them. Matt had to mask them with jokes. All because they knew what happens when they let them control them.
This is why i love eleven. He can go from a beautiful inner child to the old, grizzled and weary traveller. It shows just how tragic the doctor truly is. In the end he has had to make so many cruel decisions, so many sacrifices, lost so many people.
He is the meanist Doctor to me the toughest and they deserved every mean thing he said. David Tennant who is my favorite seems to be the nicest one the 11th Doctor is my second favorite.
1:44 the absolute disgust on 11’s face when he hears this… I wish we could’ve seen more moments like this, showing how the Time War impacted 11 before he ended it.
I'll be honest, this reminds me of Vault 11 from Fallout: New Vegas. They sacrificed people/tortured the whale because they thought if they didn't, they die, but when they finally stopped they were let out/increased speed
I feel like one thing I never realized something that was stupid about this scene is this: there is a third option. Remember and start building the technology to travel in space so they can release the star whale and repay it for its' kindness. It would be hard, but appealing to a population's sense of empathy could easily lead to enough support for that sort of project, especially since they'd already been traveling through space for near 300 years.
Sometimes I visualize new DW episodes as if they were done back in the days of classic Who. For this episode, I can picture the Fifth Doctor and Tegan having this argument.
i’ve seen people complain that 11 was a bit of an arrogant dick here, even if he has every right to be mad, but scenes like this are what make me love 11 during series 5, he’s trying to be more lighthearted and brush of the pain 10 went through but he can still so easily slip into that darker side of himself
Its not like there is a lack of humans in the Universe. Every other nation managed to escape. THe Doctor should of gone to the nth degree to get that Starwhale out and damn the savage humans.
That was his dilemma though, he didn't want to kill the star whale, but also didn't want to kill thousands of humans, most of whom were innocent. He went with what he thought as the lesser of two bad solutions.
Again, no lack of humanity in the universe. Every other country left in rockets, UK went $%$ that, its too expensive? .... ITs not one of my fave doctor who stories but its episodes like this that really prove that Humanity is shite.
I found when I was watching this, 11 behaves a lot like how I think 10 would have done. Just shows that despite 11 saying they'd moved on, deep down, some of it never went away.
All high and mighty on the top of mountains of dead timelords bodies. At this point the doctor thought he was responsible for his entire species extinction and he has the nerve to talk down to humans.
When I first saw the doctor, I never thought I would really get into it, but it’s definitely in my top 5 for favorite shows ever. I’m not too interested in the most recent doctor though. Not because she’s a woman, but I’m just not vibing with her.
I hated the sci-fi storytelling in Moffat's reign as showrunner, but the characters were phenomenal. This however, was one of the best sci-fi stories Moffat ever did.
I let I let. He always is known for interfering but the worst bit is it's not always his choice to make. It was up to Liz.. and yet he decides the future of history. The Timelord Victorious always so complete
Why is there still the blue and white St. Andrew's Cross on the Union Jack at 3:30? I thought Scotland wanted its own ship. It looks more like the Northern Irish flag went missing.
I haven’t seen much of the last few Doctor Who seasons, I dropped out midway through Capaldi’s last season, and I haven’t heard many good things about it. Is it because there aren’t more moments like this?
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"You don't ever decide what I need to know"
God Matt Smith was scary at times. I love him so much.
All the Doctors need a scary side. 9 was just inherently scary, coming straight out of the Time War. 10 was jovial on the outside, but he had a dark undercarriage. Think about how he ended up dealing with The Family of Blood, or the Time Lord Victorius moment. 11 was similar in that sense, happy-go-lucky yet hiding something more. 12 was actually the opposite though, he played the angry man but was actually a lot softer than he tried to look.
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Not really no. He was more of a grumpy guy who could be soft but could be also batshit crazy. Do not confuse grumpy with angry. The 12th Doctor could get really angry.
@@hououinkyouma3864 This is just my opinion, but I still think 12 was bigger on threats, but when it actually came down to it, he was quite softer in his "choices" than 9,10 or 11th doctor (again, "quite" softer, not completely).
Decided that this story is about covid-19 but plural the crew is us with covid-19 the whale is the NHS which tires out 🤫
Why is he angry?
"Nobody talk to me, nobody HUMAN! HAS ANYTHING TO SAY TO ME TODAY!!!"
And then I started crying.
;~;
ClintonKelly87 It angers me because this is EXACTLY what a human being would fucking do. It would enslave another race without giving it a first thought because we are despicable race.
ClintonKelly87 Me too.
Chris Soto To be fair, it's not like the people had much of a choice, story-wise. I mean it was either capture the whale and live, or die. The very fact that there is a 'forget' button when making that decision, means people have most certainly given it great thought, and the decision is so painful they'd rather not remember making it. So instead of 'despicable race' etc, it's more like, making an incredibly difficult decision, out of desperation for their survival.
Its when you've lived for so long, that they all sound the same.
I love how it cuts to the Doctor when it says Last of Its Kind, like he feels for the whale because he IS the whale. Keeping humanity alive and well, alone.
the idea that the doctor feels trapped in his role, that humanity will forever be in its infancy until the end of time and the doctor must always be there to set things right. humanity neutered the doctor and used his compassion to do it.
@@tonoornottono absolutely not
And often at the expense of his own well being.
@@tonoornottonoholy shit that last line is amazing!
What I love about Matt’s Doctor is that he seems like a five year old on drugs, but sometimes you can just feel and see how old he really is.
It's not the drug, it's the doctor who impacts the drug the way he wants. And he always does anything with passion or not at all. So when he does drugs it means he is going to enjoying darkness of his darkness. ♥️😎😋👅❤️🖤😛😝😜 Obviously here I am talking about myself. Yahaya ZQ here 😎😋😊😶
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I had a stroke reading this.
little concern: Why exactly do you know, what a five year old on drugs is like?
@@MusikCassette Personal experience
@@Anna-zi7sx so you took drugs when you wer five?
or did you drug a five year old?
This was the first sign that the Eleventh Doctor was more than a big kid in an adult body. Something darker. Something angrier. That part of the whole "big kid" personality is an act.
yepp
With every regeneration, the doctor became more self-controlled. Because he buried deeper and deeper his regret and guilt for his decision. That's why Eccelston was so angry and brutal. That's why Tennant was so Stoic. That's why Smith is so Childish. It's all the means of running away.
They later of course wrote in that they actually saved everyone, completely denying Capaldi these feelings. But oh well.
That darkness is the doctor from the time war the one who killed them all
@@pumpkingamebox well capaldi. Doctor does seem to remmber. That is why he was trying to find gallifry
@Reign Caleb Fuck off. Both of you. Reported for spam.
This is why Matt Smith was effective. For a young guy to put a portrayal of an old timelord demanded light and shade.
“Nobody human has anything to say to me today” with quotes like these how can people say this show has no depth or drama
who says that?
@@MusikCassette yeah, no one does lol
@@jacklaffey3529
no he does.
Now it doesn’t
@@gentleseal1778 but who does
Doctor: You don't ever decide what I need to know
Amy, Rory, and River all through season 6: Let's not tell him he's going to die on Lake Solencio
That's different, the rules of time travel had to come first. Even if he did find out eventually, for all they knew they could break time.
P.S. It's Silencio
Doctor: You don't ever decide what I need to know
Doctor in season 6 part 1: Let's not tell Amy she's a flesh avatar
He did that to make sure whoever had Amy wouldn't realize he knew.
Also he wasn't sure. Thats why Doctor wanted them to go have food (or whatever it was) so he could look at the Flesh himself.
Tacita Koe Exactly. He thought he was protecting her by keeping the information, just like Amy wanted to protect him from having to choose between the star whale or humanity. It came from a good place but it was not their choice to make
Tomos Jones He wasn't sure, but he had strong suspicions. He knew there was something wrong with her pregnancy after he scanned her and he chose not to tell her or Rory.
"There were billions of them, they lived in the depths of space and according to legend, guided the early space travelers through the asteroid belt. This one as far as we are aware is the last of it's kind."
*cuts to the last Galifreyan, the Time Lord Victorious, the Doctor*
you're catching on...
@@emdex618 there are some episodes which touch base on how far his morality stretches when confronted with more aggressive/predatory species.. but as a whole the doctor is always conflicted when it comes to genocide.
Imo the Doctors soulmate is river song
This is wrong, Doctor. I don't care who you are. The Time Lord Victorious is wrong.
Don't forget rhe timeless child.... aaah man 😒
no She is the timeless child
This episode shows that the 11th doctor isn’t just some bumbling jolly happy go lucky idiot he can be really dark and serious just as 10 was
I think even more dark.
More than 12.
@@AliceEyler I think 12 was the least dark out of 9,10,11 and 12. He was the opposite of 11, the cheery facade to hide the rage and loneliness within, 12 had a grumpy and harsh facade to hide how much he cares and how kind he truly was, that facade slowly lifts throughout his run.
@@gwinnellheald8592 Well we also have to remember 12 knew of the choice to save galifrey
I love this scene. Smith really does portray the anger and fury very well (albeit rarely). Same with Eccleston.
Eccleston was far better as a Doctor than he was given credit for. I thought he did the role of a broken man just after the Time War incredibly well.
"And then I'll find a new name 'cause I won't be the Doctor anymore..."
Damn, even back in 2010 Moffat had the idea of the Doctor not calling himself the Doctor, and thus the idea of the War Doctor was born.
Moffat isn't that good of a writer.
He is, he just has flaws, like all writers. On one thing he wouldn't be able to write it without messing up, on another thing he could do the most fantastic thing.
Umm, the idea of the War 'Doctor' only came about when Eccleston refused to return for the 50th.
He's better than the peanut gallery that is called the anti-Moffat "fans"
I don't think Moffat came up with the War Doctor idea that early. But all writers have ideas they keep coming back to. Stuff that fascinates and inspires them to no end. Moffat imagined being "the Doctor" as a choice this Time Lord makes. He can be other things (e.g. a warrior) but he chooses, over and over, to be the one who helps and heals. From that general idea grew several smaller ones we've seen over the years: the Doctor's quip here, the War Doctor, Twelfth Doctor's identity crisis in season 8 (is he still a good man?), the simulated ("fake") Doctor still being able to the day in the Monks storyline, the question of the Doctor's real name being irrelevant because he is defined by the promise of the name he chose. If you know where to look, this idea of choosing to be the Doctor is everywhere in his stories. You may not like Moffat's writing but he does think about his episodes.
I just love how Matt enhances his anger at 4:11, such a great actor and a fantastic Doctor :)
"The worst decision I will ever make. Nobody talk to me! Nobody HUMAN has ANYTHING TO SAY TO ME TODAY!"
And on the Last Day of the Time War, Eleven opened his hearts to a human...and found another way.
"The Worst Thing I'll Ever Do" He truly is the Doctor who forgetd
And maybe because he doesn't Amy to know about what he did in his past. Not at this point in time at least
Forgetd? Ignoring that though yeah
He wasn't the Doctor at the time.
I think he thought murdering this innocent beautiful creature is worse than what he did to gallifrey.
He slaughtered his people and the daleks because he thought he had to or the universe itself would burn not just because of the daleks but because of the war criminals time lords like rassilon were becoming
This star whale as far as he knows is innocent and doesn't deserve any harm, the sort of people he's the doctor for
"Trapped it, built our life around it, and used it to grow ourselves."
SirFortility So...basically our parents?
Humanity in a nutshell
@@Hunter-oc2ej humans are probably the parasites of space
1:42 Matt says no words just looks down, you can see the emotion in that scene. He can relate he didn't need to say anything that look was enough
Got to love how Matt Smith has now been in two shows containing not just royalty with an Elizabeth but also Churchill
One of the things the writers and Matt Smith's performance really got right about the Doctor is how he doesn't miss anything, but he will distract you so you don't notice that he noticed.
Matt really was the best at balancing the light and dark sides of the Doctor. He was so good at switching between the two and it was so endearing and yet so frightening. In my opinion the darkest and my favorite Doctor of them all.
“I don’t even remember doing it.” But you did it and that’s what counts.” I think this exchange fits him as the man who forgets
Gosh I can't see him like that .. so broken ...so ... sad ...
Oliver Linklater your dead..... 😭😭😭how can you be so cruel???? 😢😢😭😭😭😭
Ben Jordan kill him! Exterminate him
ESC Lisa Germany that's what makes him such a great Doctor. His emotion. His sadness and anger as he delivers his lines.
David Tennant is my favorite doctor.
Something i find interesting about this is how it shows that for all he admires humanity, and in spite of all the love he has for them, there is still some part of the doctor that considers himself above humanity. Not morally, but intellectually at least. "Nobody human has anything to say to me today"
The doctor is both simultaneously above and below humanity and that is what i believe is an inevitable truth the doctor faces, he preaches the good whilst being the single most genocidal being in this universe's history, he admires humanity because of his flaws and in some way detests humanity because of his strengths
because a time lord is NOT a human.
The placement of this episode right after the Eleventh Hour was such a smart decision as well. This pretty much cemented 11's darkness and anger, just shimmer below the surface while establishing the Doctor's trust in Amy when she figures it out.
Oh, the poor Doctor and his breaking hearts :-(
I love this moment so much. It is nice to see the Doctor rightfully angry like he is here.
Love this episode. It shows good character development early one for Amy and the doctor side by side. Great performances so early on.
Steven Moffat has said before that the biggest reason they cast Matt Smith was that he had this quality of being simultaneously very YOUNG and very OLD.
The star whale... Protect the endangered species... Donate today...
Grand Admiral Thrawn I donated a like
I donated a like and a battle fleet.
The fleet is simply to perform an observation of their habitat little more.
Lord Inquisitor Sec the only thing that battle fleet should be doing is purging the xeno from existence for the glory of the emperor
If we do not adapt then we will fail. If the Imperium is supreme. Why are we not victorious?
I wanna shrink when he's angry.
Shrink? You wanna find another universe.
@@JnEricsonx universe? I think only way to escape from Doctor is being touched by a weeping angel
Sultansman I think he mean't another universe as in parallel universe
this doctor in particular rlly has that effect when he's mad(especially when he yells) so i feel you
"You'll find out that the Universe is a really small place when I'm angry at you"
I love how sad the Doctor is when he hears it’s the last of its kind. A situation he knows far too well
One of the more touching emotion filled moments of the series. Granted there are a lot through out his regenerations such as his deaths that forced the regeneration but to me I find this one the most heartbreaking.
This whole scene screams the time war all over again. No matter how hard he can try to forget the sins of his war doctor incarnation, "he still did it, that's what counts".
The Beast Below is one of the most underrated episodes of the entire series
I hope Jodie gets a few scenes like this
Mr Cranky fucking chick dr who
William Ross-Hughes boi. Give her a fucking chance
'dr who' HIS NAME IS DR WHO
TigerMan1995 and...?
It's a joke. Also Missy said it in Series 10.
The acting is what really sells this scene and makes it feel impactful, because the plot carrying it collapses in on itself with the tiniest prodding. Like you only have to ask the question "okay, but WHY would there ever be a KILL EVERYONE button made under any circumstance?" to start to see the glaring holes in the logic leading to this point. For something a bit spicier: someone much cleverer than me would be able to write a long essay about what it says about how Britain sees its monarchs that it is basically unquestioningly presented as normal that the queen has the right to kill everyone if she feels bad.
3:22 When I'm done here, you're going home. Should have done the same to Rose when she nearly wiped out all life on Earth trying to save her father.
He considered it. He forgave her instead. He's the Doctor, never be cruel, never be cowardly.
Yet throw Todd Grimshaw out of the TARDIS for screwing about with time, but forgive Rose for doing the same thing,
@John Jaxson
Or maybe its that Rose is a shit character and The Doctors writing was horribly inconsistent in the Davies era.
@John Jaxson
9 was horribly inconsistent with his writing. And I won't even talk about 10s god awful character.
9 forgives Rose for screwing with time, and he, (The Doctor), is the only one left that can watch it. Roses actions nearly got the Last Timelord killed. He should've been furious by that, ESPECIALLY after the Time War.
@@foolsfortune1677 of course you can say it was because they were bad characters, it's more easy to you understand
The ending to this episode doesn’t make much sense if you think about it, but this episode had stellar performances from Matt and Karen, and really helped cement their characters as believable people.
Shades of Colin baker here
true, 4th could get into a fury too
I like this episode but I hate the timing of it. It shouldn't have been the second episode. It relied heavily on Amy truly understanding the Doctor's character and fully trusting him and happens way too fast. Would have liked this episode more if it came later on the season or even season 6/7
I dunno - Amy's uncertainty with who the Doctor is - seeing him as a hero but wanting to keep him 'pure' and 'save' him from himself... that's something only someone who has an IDEA of the Doctor(rather than actually knowing him) would do.
If it were Amy from the later series she PROBABLY wouldn't have made this mistake
I see what you're saying and I do respect your opinion but to me I would have to disagree. She does this because the whale was "very old and very kind and the very last of his kind" but she didn't even know he was old and the last of his kind till like 30 minutes earlier. I think she may have done the same thing if she was in love with "the idea of the Doctor" but then she'd have a different reason to do this. It'd be to be heroic like him and want to save stuff like him but not because the whale and the Doctor have similar circumstances.
Completely agree. Would be perfect for a Series 6 episode.
She has known the doctor WAY longer than it seems though. Ever since she was a little girl, so she has this big romanticized idea of him and trusts him implicitly.
Toy Mage I think she didn’t trust the doctor and that’s why she chose to forget. If it was later on, it wouldn’t make much sense imo
Should point out that the Twelfth Doctor later has the same problem of being unable to see himself from the outside. The Doctor has trouble accepting the existence of others who have the same outlook on life as himself, but the star whale and Robin Hood both did; never be cruel, never be cowardly.
This episode had so many ideas that weren’t explored like why do they sacrifice children who fail tests, what are the many decks, what are the smilers, I wish this episode was a special but it was still really good
This has popped up a few times in my recommended videos recently.
I finally clicked.
This is what Doctor Who is about kids. This. Everything that lead to this moment and everything that followed from it
This is why Smith’s still one of my favourite Doctors
"Your only human."
That say alot about the Doctor and his regrets.
He been at this for so long, he forgets that he not thay different to the humans.
That he forgets that he not some god that have deal with every blunder someone made.
0:55 lovely glitch
This is why 11 worked, he had such rage when it was needed, he didn’t treat humans as children, there where times (such as this) where he clearly hated them.
The Doctor is old, he’s seen and done so much, lost so much and suffered so much, all the childish goofing around was cover for the years of sorrow he had suffered
And he didn't need petty insults to do it.
(Mostly, I think Cold Blood dives into that, but it's been a few years since I watched it.)
Never did care for that two part episode personally.
@@fictiontheorizer1991 which one was cold blood again?
@@samuelfawell9159 Sorry Cold Blood and Hungry Earth. Now I remember.
With the Silurians living in a society beneath the earth.
@@fictiontheorizer1991 ah yes I remember those ones, they… weren’t the best, but it did indeed touch on humanities selfishness and cruelty.
Which is really something 13 never did, humans where always being shown as either good or bad, with no grey.
A doctor needs to be able to be dangerous, they need to be threatening in a way, they need to be able to play a character who you can look at and go “this person isn’t human, they don’t live by our rules, they keep the monsters away”
@@samuelfawell9159 Yeah Jodie was not good at being anything.
To be fair, I was never scared of Peter the way I was Tennant or Matt either.
Although it has been a while since I watched Peter's episodes.
This broke my heart
The one thing that really bugged me is how the Doctor decided to kill the star whale instantly. He didn’t try to find another way or come up with a clever idea. He just gave up and decided which lives were worth more. The one constant in doctor who is that the doctor values all life the same and tries to save everybody. It felt very off brand.
He discovers the alien has been tortured for hundreds of years and if it stops, countless innocent men, women, and children die. That hits like a ton of bricks, even to the doctor. Most people presented with this information chose to immediately forget. He has enough capacity to come up with a lesser evil that will keep the people alive while ending the alien’s pain. I believe the reason he was so fast to act was because 1. He was an emotional wreak, he is just better at hiding it, and 2. He wants to get it over with quick because he knows he’ll back out otherwise, and believes that would be the worst outcome. I don’t think the reason he wants to send clara home is because he’s mad or feels really betrayed, it’s because he has already made his decision and he knows he will be a complete incorrigible wreak afterwards.
Matt Smith's first opportunity to remind us that underneath the fun and laughs lurks a very old man, fiercely angered by injustice.
When she explains what they did, I cry every time. I cannot imagine what happened.
Series 5 actually gave matt smith drama and emotion, series 7 he just became a cartoon character
scott miles I disagree with that, what with his "Honor the Victim's First" speech, goodbye to the Ponds, Rings of Akhaten speech, farewell to River, and finally, his Regeneration, while not "I don't want to go..." levels of heartbreaking, was still a beautifully somber and emotional scene.
Tbh it's not Matt Smith's fault, its Steven Moffat's. Series 5 I think was his doctors prime. His character had so much depth and every episode I enjoyed. Everything after series 5 is where it started to slowly decrease in quality for me. Of course there are really amazing standout moments, but in the end that's exactly Moffat's style nowadays. Its usually poorly written episodes with anticlimactic resolutions to the main problem, with some really good character moments sprinkled in between that just make it worth while enough to watch. And the trend continued on into Capaldi's run. He's a great doctor with some amazing moments that are unfortunately undercut by a majority of his stories being very poorly written. I also think the problem is once Moffat establishes the character of the doctor and how he acts he'll overdo it to the point that the character almost becomes a parody of themselves. Its like hey the eleventh Doctor is super quirky and fidgety and bouncing off the wall? Okay that's just who he is now. And that one catchphrase we thought was cool that one time, were gonna have him repeat it till everyone hates it. And the same goes for Capaldi. The moment I saw him on a tank playing an electric guitar, I was like this is too much. Now this is just being over the top quirky just for the sake of it. It doesn't provide more insight or emotion to the scene. I'm very optimistic about what chibnal has in store for Jodie's doctor though. Like sure bring Moffat on for some episodes maybe every now and then because his one-off stories are wonderful, but he is not suited to be a showrunner anymore in my honest opinion.
JovialJollyJames im not saying he didnt have good moments but they put more emphasis on the humour, moments like that were spareingly in the season as a whole.
out of the modern who series Smith is easily my favorite.
Tends to happen with all long-running shows. First season, they're given scripts that are generic in characterization, but great in story and emotion. The actor works with the scripts and develops their doctor. Second season, the writers know what works with the actors style and have a better grasp of their individual personality and get creative. You get some strong scripts, but also terrible ones ones. Third season, the recurring writers write 'safe' scripts they know will do well and the newcomers push for more elaborate content. It's the cycle of show writing, and not just for Doctor Who. Third seasons tend to be the most bland.
Smith is still my fav Doctor, throughout his tenure. His Doctor is great and diverse in performance, but the writing didn't keep pace with him.
When iam done here...you are going home.
That makes me really sad. 😞😞😢
Powerful acting!
See, Matt's Doctor was the veil that Vastra talked about. Out of all of the modern Doctors, he was the Doctor that the Universe wanted. A friendly, almost childlike wanderer who would fix everything with a smile and joke. Especially when he wanted to cry. Look at a few lines.
"Oh I don't care. Once we're done here, you're going home" the veil almost lifts and he shows the fury of the Time-Lord Victorious.
"Yeah I know. You're only human" the veil comes is being put back on.
Peter's Doctor was free to let his emotions show but always did what was right in the end. Eccleston acted on his emotions too much.
However. David had to contain them. Matt had to mask them with jokes. All because they knew what happens when they let them control them.
"You're only human." *Enter Rag'n'Bone song here."
Capaldi didn't scare me that much, probably because he was expected to play a more grouchy doctor, Smith was unexpected, he used to unnerve me!
This show is actually terrifying when you think about it.
Especially with Torchwood. With the 456 aliens and the fact that Cthulhu may or may not exist in the same universe. Cause this is a "kids" show.
When the Doctor heard the words "the last of its kind," he thought about himself being the last of the Time Lords.
This is why i love eleven. He can go from a beautiful inner child to the old, grizzled and weary traveller. It shows just how tragic the doctor truly is. In the end he has had to make so many cruel decisions, so many sacrifices, lost so many people.
I actually loved this episode.
Smith and Gillan smashed there dynamic instantly.
He is the meanist Doctor to me the toughest and they deserved every mean thing he said. David Tennant who is my favorite seems to be the nicest one the 11th Doctor is my second favorite.
1:44 the absolute disgust on 11’s face when he hears this… I wish we could’ve seen more moments like this, showing how the Time War impacted 11 before he ended it.
The last of its kind, doing its best to stop children from crying, through pain unimaginable, loneliness and misery
"...and then I need to find a new name."
This is where he forgot the meaning and duties of the title "The Doctor" (as most doctors have nowadays).
I love the poem that went with this story.
I think it's one of the best episodes of DW
I think of this moment with the Star Whale, then the moment with the Moon, being an egg for 12.
It's interesting.
4:17 The doctor...his anger...
"Every other nation had fled to the skies."
Aka Britain thought it could go it alone, against *checks notes* the Sun... which checks out.
Одна из самых грустных историй в сериале, наверное, когда безобидное существо заточили под свои цели просто.
This episode got me hooked on doctor who
One of the best episodes in my opinion
based on the book "The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas"
I miss Matt Smith. Matt Smith was the best doctor.
Yikes do you even David Tennant
He'll always be my favorite.
I'll be honest, this reminds me of Vault 11 from Fallout: New Vegas. They sacrificed people/tortured the whale because they thought if they didn't, they die, but when they finally stopped they were let out/increased speed
it's based on the book "The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas" with the people on the ship learning the truth. Also New Vegas rocks
This shows up in my recommendations very often.
I feel like one thing I never realized something that was stupid about this scene is this: there is a third option. Remember and start building the technology to travel in space so they can release the star whale and repay it for its' kindness. It would be hard, but appealing to a population's sense of empathy could easily lead to enough support for that sort of project, especially since they'd already been traveling through space for near 300 years.
Sometimes I visualize new DW episodes as if they were done back in the days of classic Who. For this episode, I can picture the Fifth Doctor and Tegan having this argument.
Matt nailed his second episode so well. I liked this episode.
this is the second episode?
@@worldweaver2691 yep of series 5
His disappointment hurt worse than anything Eccleston could've done..
Not sure if I completely agree with "Dropping the title of The Doctor on the second ever episode of him playing the doctor" but it was well delivered.
i’ve seen people complain that 11 was a bit of an arrogant dick here, even if he has every right to be mad, but scenes like this are what make me love 11 during series 5, he’s trying to be more lighthearted and brush of the pain 10 went through but he can still so easily slip into that darker side of himself
Its not like there is a lack of humans in the Universe. Every other nation managed to escape. THe Doctor should of gone to the nth degree to get that Starwhale out and damn the savage humans.
That was his dilemma though, he didn't want to kill the star whale, but also didn't want to kill thousands of humans, most of whom were innocent. He went with what he thought as the lesser of two bad solutions.
Again, no lack of humanity in the universe. Every other country left in rockets, UK went $%$ that, its too expensive? ....
ITs not one of my fave doctor who stories but its episodes like this that really prove that Humanity is shite.
Matthew Pittard Yes but just because there are still humans out there doesn’t mean it’s easy to kill thousands of people most of which are innocent.
Dead of a unique species or death of humans.
If humanity is shite, feel free to relieve yourself of it. Painting an entire species with the same brush is paramount to idiocy of the highest order.
That's the Demon Headmaster!
Ah... now I know where the star wars Ashokah pulled the "star whale" nonsense from.
Matt Smith will always be my favourite Doctor.
1:00 The Demon Headmaster!
I found when I was watching this, 11 behaves a lot like how I think 10 would have done. Just shows that despite 11 saying they'd moved on, deep down, some of it never went away.
does anyone know where i can get the soundtrack from this episode??
Doctor number Six came out
Could Elizabeth 10 be a direct descended from doctor/ Elizabeth 1 ?
no but there IS a 2nd Elizabeth sitting on the British throne right now!, Her descendent, probably!
All high and mighty on the top of mountains of dead timelords bodies. At this point the doctor thought he was responsible for his entire species extinction and he has the nerve to talk down to humans.
It wouldn’t wipe out humanity though. It was only the uk not all humans
Christina Stokbæk but the uk is the best bit
@@anarchypizza8840 nah, Canada's better.
When I first saw the doctor, I never thought I would really get into it, but it’s definitely in my top 5 for favorite shows ever. I’m not too interested in the most recent doctor though. Not because she’s a woman, but I’m just not vibing with her.
I hated the sci-fi storytelling in Moffat's reign as showrunner, but the characters were phenomenal.
This however, was one of the best sci-fi stories Moffat ever did.
The doctor is stern
I let I let. He always is known for interfering but the worst bit is it's not always his choice to make. It was up to Liz.. and yet he decides the future of history. The Timelord Victorious always so complete
Why is there still the blue and white St. Andrew's Cross on the Union Jack at 3:30? I thought Scotland wanted its own ship. It looks more like the Northern Irish flag went missing.
This is the ultimate Trolley Problem.
I haven’t seen much of the last few Doctor Who seasons, I dropped out midway through Capaldi’s last season, and I haven’t heard many good things about it. Is it because there aren’t more moments like this?