The Dissolution of the Monasteries

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024

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  • @williamcooke5627
    @williamcooke5627 7 лет назад +113

    One of the worst effects of the Dissolution of the Monasteries was the dispersal and destruction of their libraries. i am quite sure we lost, for instance, some unique and valuable Anglo-Saxon MSS. that people at the time did not value.

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  7 лет назад +26

      Oh yeah it was a nightmare for the old libraries, I think a lot of old texts that we do still have access to for the Anglo-Saxons and Old English were used as doorstops or make-shift covers before being rescued by collectors.

    • @gunnarthorsen
      @gunnarthorsen 5 лет назад +9

      Agreed. I read that John Dee, Elizabeth's "seer", ended up with quite a few of them. Heartbreaking, the destruction not only of books, but of chalices, monstrances, statues, rood screens, memorial plaques to the dead which bore Catholic prayers, and more. Some 2/3 of England's tangible religious heritage, wiped out by 16th century Taliban-types. Always interesting to me that the 19th century Oxford Movement in the Church of England brought much of that back.

    • @remilenoir1271
      @remilenoir1271 Год назад +3

      Indeed, and one of the many reasons for the "Dark Ages" myth.
      These monasteries and their libraries housed hundreds upon hundreds of valuable documents on various topics, from ancient literature to population censuses. All of which was irredeemably lost following the dissolution of the monasteries during the English reformation, the destruction and pillage of abbeys all over Europe during the religious wars, and, in France, during the French Revolution.

    • @Anpi-xx6my
      @Anpi-xx6my Месяц назад

      ​@@historywithhilbert146 But why di the English Clergy, in Saint-Paul's Cathedral in London, when in 1529 Henry VIII asked if they recognized him as THEIR Pope, remain silent (... and the silence was considered "assent") instead of saying by majority: "No, we are remain submissive to the Roman Pontiff... We are English but also faithfull go the Cattolic Church of the Roman Rite"?

  • @perspii2808
    @perspii2808 5 лет назад +27

    It’s pretty tragic to see so many spectacular buildings fall into ruins. Cheers Henry m8

  • @gunnarthorsen
    @gunnarthorsen 5 лет назад +25

    I read somewhere - but can't remember names - that Henry VIII, when in union with Rome, endowed a convent of nuns in London to pray for his soul, for as long as their order existed. After the dissolution, the nuns went to France, and - unlike Henry - they kept their part of the agreement. Oh, and a side note: The term "Roman Catholic" was coined by Protestants, to distinguish the church from their own "catholic" church. To this day the Catholic Church only refers to itself as "The Holy Catholic Church" in official documents.

  • @bonniejohnstone
    @bonniejohnstone 5 лет назад +19

    This is a bit too clean and neat. There was real destruction of reliquaries (relics of Saints), places of pilgrimage (wells and springs common especially in Celtic Christianity), destruction of Celtic Crosses because they had images, laws prohibiting pilgrimage and Feastday Celebration.

  • @toysintheattic2664
    @toysintheattic2664 7 лет назад +38

    It's a shame, I've been to Tintern abbey a few times and would love to have seen it in all its glory

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  7 лет назад +13

      Yeah absolutely, places like Tintern and Fountains in Yorkshire really make you wonder about what these places did look like in their prime with monks chanting and working around the grounds.

    • @toysintheattic2664
      @toysintheattic2664 7 лет назад +5

      History With Hilbert the site which Tintern is set on is really beautiful too. I find it hard to imagine these were more than just old decaying buildings at some point. I live near Caerleon and it's the same thing there with the old roman town

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  7 лет назад +5

      I haven't been before though it's certainly somewhere I'd like to visit :)
      Yeah I do know what you mean, but I can conjure up images of what I imagine these old places looked like in the past nonetheless :)

    • @cherylridsdale-schimanskey7632
      @cherylridsdale-schimanskey7632 3 года назад +1

      Me too! It would have been glorious!!

  • @olliebeck2952
    @olliebeck2952 3 года назад +5

    I think this goes to show the power of getting your end away. Henry literally ruined an entire network of hospitals/libraries/safe community places etc just to get some with Anne. Crazy man.

    • @randywatts6969
      @randywatts6969 2 месяца назад +1

      Not many were willing to lose their heads for him, so they did as they were told.😮

  • @holbolworld8544
    @holbolworld8544 7 лет назад +6

    Revising for a history test thanks this helped

  • @LifeByLia15
    @LifeByLia15 4 года назад +2

    I would love to see videos on the “kings great matter” like you had suggested at the end of this video- as well as the monasteries role in society and also what the effect was once they were gone- would be so helpful, this was a great video!

  • @jamieyoho2310
    @jamieyoho2310 4 года назад +5

    My ancestors benefitted from this. They were given land taken from the monasteries. Can u do a video about the nobles that received wealth? I know this is 2yrs old lol

    • @764Kareltje
      @764Kareltje 4 года назад +1

      Land was very valuable then, as land pretty much gave all means of production. But as the industry and commerce increased in importance, land became less profitable, and lots of land owners became speculators to maintain their wealth, using their land as collateral. Of course this is no tenable strategy, and many of the new nobility who profited from the dissolution in the 16th century, were driven off their land upon bankruptcy. Or worse, their often prominent political positions were abused by financiers, a fate which I hope your ancestors did not experience. It is well-established for instance, that Winston Churchill and his ancestors were heavily indebted to financiers, who allowed them to keep their titles, reputation and estates, in exchange for political influence. So nobility often ended up on the street, or they became essentially whores to bankers' interests. Just a reminder that every revolution eventually eats its own children.

    • @jamieyoho2310
      @jamieyoho2310 4 года назад

      @@764Kareltje oh they certainly didn't keep their illustrious positions. Someone else owns the estate in Kent now lol

    • @randywatts6969
      @randywatts6969 2 месяца назад

      Yes, the more those families were willing to do for Henry, the more favourably they were treated by the Court.

    • @randywatts6969
      @randywatts6969 2 месяца назад

      I don’t know how the Howard family managed to keep everything they got. They are Catholic to this day.

  • @williamcooke5627
    @williamcooke5627 7 лет назад +13

    Purgatory was not thought of as just a waiting-room. People there were believed to be punished for their sins, just as they were in hell; the only difference was that eventually one got out of purgatory and went on to paradise. But the more people prayed for you and said masses for your soul, the sooner you got out.

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  7 лет назад +2

      My understanding of the concept is that everyone bar those who didn't commit sin or were totally absolved of them (i.e saints) went to purgatory to work off the sins whereas only the sinless went straight up to Heaven because there had to be a way for the church to make money through chantries and patronage to whittle down the time spent in purgatory. And therefore practically everyone would end up in purgatory for a time before their sins were "worked off" if you will and being pure enough to get into Heaven.

    • @matil7039
      @matil7039 7 лет назад +2

      No one knows exactly how much sinning you have to do to end up in purgatory rather than go straight to paradise, but you do not need to be sinless to enter heaven, because, in fact, pretty much none are sinless. Even the great saints and fathers of the church were not without sin.
      1 John 1:8-10 "8If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
      9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
      10If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."
      All can be forgiven (and therefore absolved, as you call it) for their sins, but not everyone learns to love God fully during their time on earth. Purgatory is reserved for such souls.

    • @williamcooke5627
      @williamcooke5627 7 лет назад +9

      Purgatory was not invented to fund chantries and monasteries. The doctrine of purgatory came first, then the endowment of masses to offset the punishments.

    • @williamcooke5627
      @williamcooke5627 7 лет назад +2

      But by Henry's time the system was arguably becoming a real burden on society, because people were expected to leave 1/3 of their wealth to the church when they died for the good of their souls, and hence the endowments for masses were tying up a fair amount of wealth and diverting it from the economy.

    • @RamblinRick_
      @RamblinRick_ 7 лет назад +2

      Don't forget Indulgences, i.e., Get Out of Purgatory Free card. Pay a little cash, and your sentence is commuted. Indulgences were very expensive, because each was handwritten by the monks. Then, this guy named Gutenberg invented the printing press. Now, hundreds could be printed in a day and sold cheaply (supply and demand, don't ya know). Now even the most base commoner could could buy their relative out of Pergatory.
      That press made Indulgences so cheaply, the Pope looked at them as a way to finance his latest project, St. Mark's Cathedral in the Vatican. He insisted his monks "sell" Indulgences to their parishioners. One monk took exception, Martin Luther. He questioned the practice, and receiving no answers, posted his 95 Theses (Questions) on the door of the Cathedral at Wittenberg. The rest, is history...

  • @LiteraryLymeTours
    @LiteraryLymeTours 6 лет назад +3

    Great video. Presented in a really professional way.

  • @barriesansom2070
    @barriesansom2070 10 месяцев назад

    Very clear and interesting history lesson..thankyou

  • @bethmarriott9292
    @bethmarriott9292 5 лет назад +1

    Really cool seeing Lewes get mentioned being from there and living in New Zealand - the Priory in Lewes is super cool, amazing historic town definitely worth a visit 👌

  • @sachinvarghese5832
    @sachinvarghese5832 7 лет назад +9

    Your content is as usual top notch stuff, sir!

  • @dhtelevision
    @dhtelevision 5 лет назад +2

    I’ve been to Crowland Abbey 4 times, and it never gets old, I looked at the 3D reconstruction and it turns out it was preeety huge

  • @wellthatagedwell2716
    @wellthatagedwell2716 7 месяцев назад

    Needed a recap after reading James Clarks recent work on this. Thanks for this

  • @Lauren-je5ut
    @Lauren-je5ut 4 года назад +2

    I think you just helped me pass history THANK YOUUUUUUUU

  • @yaelvandermark8880
    @yaelvandermark8880 7 лет назад +58

    Did he just assumed Mary's gender?

  • @krystal3886
    @krystal3886 4 года назад +1

    thank you very much for helping me with my history work!
    Keep it up! :)

  • @ianwinterbottom9539
    @ianwinterbottom9539 7 лет назад +9

    Also true. Henry was trying to establish his OWN dynasty,to be a true son of Henry V11. Which was how the Wars of the Roses began! And the poor blighter never did manage it, after all his trying. We got Mary and Elizabeth, etc. sigh!

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  7 лет назад +2

      Yeah haha although I guess he will always be remembered for his numerous efforts ;)

  • @Chickentendies1989
    @Chickentendies1989 7 лет назад +4

    I was wondering if you would ever do a series of videos of every king of england. or just highlight videos on notable kings (Casimir III of poland, Valdemar III of denmark, Harald Hardrade of norway etc) just wondering about your thoughts on this
    this was as always a great video, thank you for the content Hilbert :)

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  7 лет назад

      I'll probably make some videos dedicated to different monarchs from history and I'll certainly mention people in passing in related videos :)
      Thanks for watching Michael :D

  • @kronixdowsey6908
    @kronixdowsey6908 3 года назад

    I was sent by my history teacher and this really helped thank you

  • @RickMitchellProvenanceAndRoots
    @RickMitchellProvenanceAndRoots 7 лет назад +7

    Fascinating stuff.
    Honestly, growing up I'd always been told that Henry VIII just woke up one day and decided to leave the Catholic Church.
    Interesting to see there was a process to it all.

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  7 лет назад

      Thanks Rick :)
      Haha yeah there was a rather more complicated story behind it and I think Henry remained a Catholic at heart and at the end of his reign the doctrine and his policies even reversed back to Catholicism a bit. The real Protestantism in England came under Edward and his regent Somerset and then again under Elizabeth after the Mary fiasco ;)

    • @randywatts6969
      @randywatts6969 2 месяца назад

      The process took at least 20 years

  • @BListHistory
    @BListHistory 7 лет назад +4

    Excited to see the annulment vid

  • @dhtelevision
    @dhtelevision 5 лет назад +2

    Catherine of Aragon is buried in my cities cathedral, Peterborough

  • @MM-qd4lh
    @MM-qd4lh 7 лет назад +4

    Thank you for your videos!
    In this one, I noted your reference to the first Norse raid on Skye happening the year after Lindesfarne, and that it is possible they came from their "staging ground" on Orkney (my quotes). I would like to know your sources. I am utterly fascinated with the dark ages in Great Britain and how different the paths of folk in different areas (Eyre, Scotland, Wales & England), depending on who from away managed to conquer what and when.
    My father's family is of Skye, easily documented to the early middle ages.
    It is, as I'm sure you know, hard to find much actual history of those times. My progenitor is said to have come to Iona with an entourage accompanying St. Columba who left him behind on Skye to establish a church on his travels to pictland. There is evidence my family was of Skye before the MacDonalds and the MacLeods (though I'm descended through them too) and that there was a strong connection to Munster.
    peace all

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  7 лет назад +1

      Thank you for watching!
      I'm about 90% sure that I read this in "Vikings" by Neil Oliver; I would check but since this Tuesday I've lent it to a friend to help her dissertation. Wow, that really is an interesting ancestry you have there! Hmm that's interesting, so maybe some of the northern Dal Riatans with perhaps some Norwegian DNA thanks to the Sea-Kings?
      If I'm not much mistaken there's rather an interesting history of the MacLeods and MacDonalds on Skye what with the faery flag and the cave incident (the name of which escapes me).
      Thanks for sharing this information with me :D

  • @RossFigurepaintingCoUK
    @RossFigurepaintingCoUK 6 лет назад +1

    A lot of the handovers were "voluntary" in a way as the heads of the orders were bought off to agree. A bit like buying at a very heavy discount. Using the "carrot" as you like to say :) Another good vid. Cheers

  • @molecularunity
    @molecularunity 4 года назад

    This is a great vid, really well presented, thank you.

  • @wessexfox5197
    @wessexfox5197 2 года назад +1

    What is most upsetting is the numerous Anglo Saxon Kings whose tombs are lost forever due to their destruction under this policy.

  • @unbearifiedbear1885
    @unbearifiedbear1885 3 года назад

    Just bought a _beautiful_ metal detector find, a bible clasp from the time of the disillusion - and had to touch up on my history!
    Many thanks for the video - warmest regards
    Merry Christmas

  • @ianwinterbottom9539
    @ianwinterbottom9539 7 лет назад +2

    One way to solve the Mother in Law problem! In passing when did people stop leaving large amounts to the Church, which must have been where all that wealth originally came from? And was Cromwell any relation to the Civil War and Oliver?

  • @historywithhilbert146
    @historywithhilbert146  7 лет назад +2

    +Thomas Sugg
    Thanks Thomas! They must have been pretty committed then :D I plan to do a whole series on the civil war at some point when I get the time, although I'm rather busy at the moment so I'd rather not tackle a huge topic and not do it justice.

  • @yaelvandermark8880
    @yaelvandermark8880 7 лет назад +7

    Love the vids, keep it up

  • @jpaulc441
    @jpaulc441 Год назад

    Were the monastery buildings deliberately damaged or did they just fall to disrepair without any maintenance over the years?

  • @joellaz9836
    @joellaz9836 4 года назад +3

    Henry VIII last words were sad to be “monks, monks, monks.”

    • @randywatts6969
      @randywatts6969 2 месяца назад

      Or, perhaps “Who will rid me of these troublesome priests?”

  • @Zombieslayer199
    @Zombieslayer199 Год назад

    I highly recommend reading A History of the Protestant Reformation in England and Ireland by William Cobbett.

  • @orange1597
    @orange1597 7 лет назад

    Thanks a lot you helped me with my homework 📚

  • @MathanKumar-oy7wh
    @MathanKumar-oy7wh 3 года назад +1

    Will you please explain all topics in Social history of England?

  • @Zeldarw104
    @Zeldarw104 4 года назад

    Excellent overview.🤔

  • @thomassugg3422
    @thomassugg3422 7 лет назад +3

    Great video

  • @lukeskelly5538
    @lukeskelly5538 6 лет назад

    Thank you very useful

  • @I_am_Diogenes
    @I_am_Diogenes 5 лет назад +6

    It amazes me how often someone who obviously rejects anything of a spiritual nature feels they are "expert" enough to explain spiritual issues . Your views on Purgatory are so far off .....

    • @MikeyJMJ
      @MikeyJMJ 3 года назад

      He couldn't even stay neutral on the subject and his Dutch protestant background shone through. *"anYwAy it'S NoT biBlicAL"*

  • @tomolowe8654
    @tomolowe8654 7 месяцев назад

    Does anyone know why all thw roofs and windows are missing at all the abbeys? Were they taken down? Woulsnt that be really dangerous? Why dont we see any abbey qith its roof still intact, im just knahine how thwy took the roof down bit by bit, hell of a job

  • @asdfg9398
    @asdfg9398 7 лет назад +4

    Can you make a video about European tribes pre-christianity? Like Gods, values, architecture... etc.

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  7 лет назад +1

      Absolutely! I have one or two videos where I mention it which I link below, although I'll be making more in depth videos in the near future :)
      Who were the Anglo-Saxons Video:
      ruclips.net/video/bP1eXWIt-rE/видео.html
      The Gauls Ancient Cultural Analysis:
      ruclips.net/video/xaEhZq6CAag/видео.html
      The Picts Ancient Cultural Analysis:
      ruclips.net/video/wp1Bpk89zzM/видео.html
      The Similarities and Differences between Anglo-Saxon and Norse Paganism:
      ruclips.net/video/L1jPjOBhUFw/видео.html
      Video about an Odin Amulet they found in Denmark:
      ruclips.net/video/AN3OMRdXNAU/видео.html
      Video about how the Vikings used names:
      ruclips.net/video/73gqGyF-3ms/видео.html
      Video on location at prehistoric sites in Northumberland:
      ruclips.net/video/1RdDd1DdCaQ/видео.html
      Hope these are what you were looking for!

  • @Zombieslayer199
    @Zombieslayer199 Год назад

    I recommend everyone read A History of the Protestant Reformation in England and Ireland by William Cobbett.

  • @weltgeist2604
    @weltgeist2604 7 лет назад +2

    How is it possible to be a secular priest?

    • @howtubeable
      @howtubeable 6 лет назад

      Yes, I had the same question.

    • @tobyblack9535
      @tobyblack9535 6 лет назад +2

      Bit late to this, secular refers to leaving the monasteries. Not secular in the modern sense, but less connected to a much more religious institution, such as the monasteries, than preaching to the faithful, which is seen as much less "devout" of a career

    • @jimbarino2
      @jimbarino2 4 года назад

      In the catholic church, there is a division in the clergy between those who are "secular" (who live amongst the people and minister to them, like parish priests, etc.) and the "religious" (those who live apart from the world in communities). "Secular" in our current sense (that is, separated entirely from religion) wasn't really a concept that existed in this time, but as the Protestants worked their warped will over the years and removed any sense of the sacred from the English speaking world the words changed their meaning...

  • @specialteams28
    @specialteams28 7 месяцев назад

    Nearly evil incarnate, this videos narrator glossed over motives and the magnitude of injustice and suffering

  • @ianwinterbottom9539
    @ianwinterbottom9539 7 лет назад +4

    Fascinating stuff! Though I suspect Henry had made up his mind. The Tudors were determined to prevent any possibility of a return to the Wars of the Roses!

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  7 лет назад +3

      Agreed :) I think it's fairly safe to say Henry himself always remained Catholic at heart and the reforms he put into place were only ever Protestant-Lite or even just diluted or Anglo-Catholicism. The real crunch came under Edward and then again under Elizabeth. Though I think this was in the very back of his mind, I think by the time of Henry VIII it wasn't as much of an issue because the lines between Yorkist and Lancastrian had blurred so much. I think it was more to further both England's national interests and Henry's personal goals (i.e getting funky with Anne Boleyn) ;)

    • @calebtimes453
      @calebtimes453 7 лет назад

      History With Hilbert True
      Now if the pope were to allow Henry to divorce his wife so he could marry again or if Henry could marry multiple wives, most likely United Kingdom would have remained Catholic

    • @si4632
      @si4632 2 года назад

      @@calebtimes453 that was the excuse but they really just wanted to loot the church and steal the land

  • @otsoko66
    @otsoko66 3 года назад

    Not bad -- except there was never a question of divorce either before or after the break with the bishop of Rome. It was always annulment. There was no divorce permitted in the Anglican Church under Henry VIII or after.

  • @stefanatliorvaldsson3563
    @stefanatliorvaldsson3563 7 лет назад +2

    prófin eru búin p.s. great video

  • @unbearifiedbear1885
    @unbearifiedbear1885 3 года назад

    Just bought a _beautiful_ metal detector find, a bible clasp from the time of the disillusion - and had to touch up on my history!

  • @randywatts6969
    @randywatts6969 2 месяца назад +1

    The British taxpayers pay for these ruins to be “maintained” through the NationalTrust.

  • @daisymainzer1405
    @daisymainzer1405 5 лет назад +2

    Anyone here in class

  • @psammiad
    @psammiad 4 года назад +3

    The Dissolution of the Monasteries was caused by a combination of soft brick and acid rain 😢

    • @Zombieslayer199
      @Zombieslayer199 Год назад

      Nope it was greed and selfishness it was also a transfer of power.

  • @AngelaBuyck
    @AngelaBuyck 4 года назад +1

    They had money alots of it. Henry wanted it for himself. It did harm alot of folks also a place to get unwanted kids

  • @OkOk-zc2go
    @OkOk-zc2go 3 года назад

    Sir

  • @MikeyJMJ
    @MikeyJMJ 3 года назад

    *"anYwAy it'S NoT biBlicAL"* says the Dutch lapsed protestant as he flippantly jumps over the first 1500 years of Christian biblical understanding.

  • @evanwoods4074
    @evanwoods4074 5 лет назад

    Ok

  • @w0t3rdog
    @w0t3rdog 6 лет назад +2

    Smoke wives everyday dum dudum dum dum

  • @thomassugg3422
    @thomassugg3422 7 лет назад +7

    Henry the 8th was a lad

  • @chardonnayswaine4023
    @chardonnayswaine4023 4 года назад

    This makes no sense to meeee

  • @currytaliban7539
    @currytaliban7539 4 года назад +1

    nerd