I loved T9 texting. You could text while driving and not look down, all because you could feel the buttons and know how many times to press 3 to get an e
I mean its going to be monetized the same way as it is in other tcgs, a couple hundred gold or $2-3 to enter, with really shit rewards unless you beat it. People should not under any circumstances be expecting it to be free.
@@icenoviceAnd as Cozy and Alex noted: their reason is BS. The whole point of draft mode is that the decks aren’t as high powered as they are in constructed, so different strategies and cards can shine. We do not need them to figure out how to design draft mode so that playing a discard deck feels “as good” as it feels on ladder. We just don’t. People have already played draft mode using out-of-game tools. It works fine with the game as-is.
High voltage for me was so exciting. I could play any deck i wanted without fear of losing rank or wasting time. I really wish they would leave it in as a permanent game mode. I usually avoid conquest and would love this as an unranked mode.
As strong as loss-aversion is i truly think a true casual mode is needed for the health of the game. High Voltage has made the game a truly relaxing and fun experience minus the fun-killing alioths and cosmos lol
This would ruin the mystique of the game mode…. Should be a weekend game mode or biweekly mode to give it that rush of players everytime it “re-releases”
@@dg2161I agree I didn’t play it much but that’s because I had family/personal situations going on. But from what I see/heard it’s fun I would love a weekend only mode and maybe make a top 100 get a bonus either credits or variants probably for an incentive.
I don't understand why they made a new game mode for Marvel Snap that doesn't have snapping. Why would you remove the one thing that makes Snap unique amongst other card games? I mean, it's in the game's name!
Hearthstone has a "Tavern Brawl" mode I loved that, each week, you'd get a new rule set to play the game in that mode. Not every week was a hit, but it was nice to have a weekly mode that did something new. These limited time modes like High Voltage could be part of a "weekly rotation mode" like tavern brawl is to hearthstone. Just slap some decent rewards to it and you've got something that keeps the game fresh every week
Cozy: “Remember back when we used to do texting this way?” Alex: “Yeah! And you know how us dads sit on the toilet for like 25 minutes to hide from our kids?” Cozy: “Lol what”
MAILBAG - hoping for a miles rework, feels fine to play but a bit too boring for a character that popular, hoping for a cool activate effect with his electricity or invisibility, love the podcast.
@@Faltzerbeast90bounce does a good job at dodging priority tho, its not that simple, especially since killmonger is either in destroy or surfer which do well at getting priority. Cosmo is the big main counter thats hard to flunk on
My half bounce deck was so good with Agent Venom. It destroyed almost every play type because I never lose priority for killmonger to work. Also those scream players get turned into 1 trick ponies.
I got to 80 last month, but yeah most of the time I hover in the 60s. I like trying to make some crazy niche deck sometimes. It may not work, but I don't always want just a cookie cutter deck.
the real advice: if you want to hit infinite just grind out the first couple days when its full of bots as you rise quickly. if you get stuck and/or go slow youre going to end up playing try hards looking to level later
@xcwarrior i feel like you can make it to infinite with any deck as long as you tlretreat and sbap well. I never play decks that are remotely close to the meta and I make infinite I'm the first week each month.
42:33 Exclusive variants have been in albums since the start. One of the first albums had the Jim Lee Magneto which was a 7 day reward back in December
@@coolshirtkidI feel like so many people ended up buying that and I never see the torch variant… then again it’s been a year and the playerbase then is definately not the same now
@@dg2161 the harsh reaction to rian gonzales’ art was so disgusting and disappointing to see from the community at that time. she’s one of the best artists working in the industry
The thing I was most looking forward to with Character Masteries was the achievement stuff like "Get Deadpool up to 100 power!" but from what I've seen that's the part that was scrapped. That's pretty disappointing to me.
He's also got Destruction Potential. An alternate to a Turn 3 Carnage, then you can Carnage the same cards in a different lane. Then Toxin is a Venom target.
We all know it's just a dog, but I really understand Terry's point of view. As an old Marvel zombie (or fan, if you'd like it better) I'm also disturbed by the fact that so many MCU characters have a different gender or ethnicity from the original characters. And, just to be clear, I've always loved characters such as Miles or Miss Marvel (long before she became Captain Marvel), even if they don't mirror my gender or my ethnicity. But to see Taskmaster as a woman or stuff like that disturbed me as well.
I agree. Say way people where putting Madame Web into only move decks when she was good in other decks. I think Toxin will work the same but very good with Affliction
high voltage was so fun! i played an "agents of arishem" deck (arishem + all the random generation shield cards) was so much fun and felt a little bit like a draft mode because every game was completely different, i even had some amazing hulkling moments!
Oh, they could take ideas from board games for Draft Mode. There are "I cut, you choose" board games. Image players take turns - Player 1 gets 4 cards, they have to group then into 2 sets of 2, then the other person gets to pick which pair they want and the person who grouped them gets the other pair. Alternate who does the cutting and who does the choosing. An alternative is the "cutter" is shown say 12 cards from the "draw pile". They select 3 cards to present to the Chooser, the others are put back into the draw pile. Chooser picks 1, cutter gets the other 2. Keep going until all cards are drafted.
I think another important discussion with toxin is his relationship with falcon. There are some situations where falcon becomes better. In a meta where bounce is very good and people are running cosmo, falcon allows you to bounce your one drops that are on the cosmo location letting you dodge the cosmo entirely. In most situations Toxin will be better but falcon could be the get out of jail bounce card if people are trying to counter bounce. I do think falcon needs to give the cards he bounces +1 power tho. There's almost no other reason to play him and he just doesn't do as much as the other options.
+1 falcon is too good with bounce and that's the only place falcon is used. They would have to nerf falcon quickly after or make him a 3 cost card - which also makes him unplayable.
@@Phillyset is it really "too good"? Assuming you bounce 3 cards like beast and toxin can that only makes him a 2 6 while toxin can get higher than that still and beast still has cost reduction. Falcon just needs a reason to play him besides just bringing them back to the hand. Or else he's just gonna be forgotten.
@@trevorpyka2052 bounce is already one of the best decks in the meta right now (pre toxin) and that deck includes falcon. Giving him plus one makes the deck ridiculous. He may need a rework, but +1 is too strong for the deck he's played in. +1 falcon is as good as activate discard 2 hell cow for Hella players.
@@Phillyset yeah but they can just adjust falcons power to compensate. The things falcon needs is a reason to play him besides the bounce. The other two cards have it. Maybe he's a 2 1 with plus 1 idk. I'm just saying he needs that second reason to play him or else there no point besides a second back up option.
Okay as a person that has lived in wi my whole life, that bit about Canadian Halloween and complaining that the costumes can’t go over the coats. We’ve been buying bigger costumes to fit over our coats for generations. You definitely CAN do it
43:50 i am going through my mba, and just did a section on Managing projects and funding them. And it is 100% the friction between making money (developing more monetization routes) and ... fun. I don't doubt SD would love to be more 80/20 fun-focused but *shockingly* the investors are wanting that flipped. I give them grace because that's likely the least fun part of the job.
It's Ghost's time to shine. Bounce always throws priority, but Ghost says you can't hide from Shang-Chi and Shadow King. Killmonger behind Invisible Woman is also insane. Bounce players are gonna need Caiera as much as zoo decks pretty soon. Losing priority always leaves you vulnerable to Cosmo and Alioth too. Bounce is fun but I find it one of the hardest archetypes to master.
what they could do for draft to add another element to your deck building, is to add like traits or bonuses. For example you would get a choice of three traits/bonuses before you start picking cards such as ex. "1 extra energy per turn" or "All cards in your deck recieve +1 power" or "Start with a 6 cost card in hand, it costs 0 this turn only". That way if you really didn't find synergy amongst the cards you drew, you could still build your deck around a general trait, if that makes sense. Sort of like the effects we already recieve from the locations. I dunno lol .. food for thought.
I gotta say the dp's diner experience really scarred me. The combination of the continuous tilt, the toxic only arishem or arishem counter decks dynamic, and the seemingly neverending grind was an overall very miserable experience that I now dont want the diner experience ever again.
I joined an alliance when they launched, and I have never been in the top three point-getters (outside of maybe a few hours on Tuesday right after rollover). This week, thanks to High Voltage, I've been sitting in the #1 spot all week. I even stopped playing High Voltage yesterday after getting the Iron Man variant, and I'm still sitting on top with more than 25% more points than second spot. This is also the first week where I've got enough points to get all the personal rewards. So clearly, High Voltage got me playing a ton more!
I 100% don’t even buy money bundles for cosmetics anymore. I don’t even rmbr the last time I did. Just the battle pass and that’s it and even then, I have to like something in there to buy it. I can’t say I’m excited for the super premium bp… But I guess we will see what it is and if it keeps the game running, I guess it’s a necessity. I did really like that High Voltage was very casual and chill and FUN and new! Conquest has been drier than a desert honestly and sometimes I don’t even bother to do it. Something different that would be very nice is like an option to get more credits than boosters or vice versa on the collection track bc I have way too many boosters and my credits can NEVER keep up at this rate… And/Or boosters for the cards I like most and not random cards that I don’t care about. I want to see my favorite cards/variants in my favorite styles, but sometimes the meta doesn’t allow me to play the card (I feel this often really bc the meta isn’t always friendly to multiple decks)
Persona 5 (RPG game of over 100 hours playtime) developers added a fun loading screen icon that said "Take Your Time". That advice is wise when playing the game. It reminds players to enjoy the game and take a minute to consider your decisions. Deadpool Diner's communication was confusing. SD encouraged people to play fast and raise the stakes. The first day, many people could not do so. Later in the week, it was discovered the best way to play the mode was to TAKE YOUR TIME. I thought that detail showed some of the holes in an immature game mode.
Yellow / white man on the left, and red/ purple man on the right 😅 for some reason i can't focus on the topic looking at you guys today 😅 like Angel- Devil meeting, it fits for Halloween
Alioth and Cosmo were totally part of that gong show. If the only way to encourage people to engage is through gambit pew-pew, then it isn’t a successful mode; but because there were ways to knock down those decks, it was fun. If it is just mirror-decking gambit/wong combos then the winner is whoever randomly draws the right cards first. That’s not a strategy.
Agree completely on the "no stakes" part of High Voltage being the best part of it. When I play ladder I always get stuck in the 90s, and I haaaaaate playing there because it's so stressful and I play for hours to go up/down a single rank. The prize at the end - playing in Infinite - is such a big deal because there are no more stakes. I personally don't care about my SP (when I was lucky enough to make infinite), so it was consequence-free play and it was amazing. HV brings some of that back, which made it have that stress-free feeling again. The game mode itself should be limited - I'm already sick of seeing Wong combos everywhere - but I'll look forward to it coming back every other month or w/e... like the McRib.
Cozy, I think you nailed it. I like the idea of the exclusive variants coming back, but treat them like comics in that the "2nd printing" has something different about it so if you've got a "1st printing" you still have bragging rights. No idea WTH that is, but I do know that I'm one of the folks Alex was referencing in that I missed the Throg card first time around and I do want it. Heck, I want the "I got a rock" title more than anything else. But bear in mind, I am terribly odd.
What Marvel snap really needs is a card destroy/recycle option. I have too much junk in my collection that needs to be recycled for credits or tokens.😢
Thank you Alex. I've literaly never signed in to watch a video on RUclips but I came here to say thanks. At around the 26-27 mark Alex mentions how Snap needs a casual mode. And I have felt this for so long! As a long time poker player I've never liked the Snap mechanic. It's fine for the purpose it serves but it doesn't make the game better. I just want to play cards and do fun stuff with Marvel characters. Win or lose I'm having fun. Is my oponent setting up a ridiculous Living Tribunal / Iron man combo for 100s of points? Ill lose to that just to see them pull it off. Love High Voltage, it's the best thing they've done since custom cards.
Interestingly all the points you just listed as your pros about the game mode, are the exact things that I disliked about it😂. Not that i hated it, it was fun as a temporary event. But I far preferred DP's dinner.
Deadpool's Diner does the entire snap mechanic best. In ladder it feels like an add on just so they can have a ranking system not based on win loss. You can literally have a 60% WR and still lose cubes. I dunno like I said I don't think cubes add any meaningful depth to the game, unless all you care about is a ranking system and nothing about this game makes me want to play it competively. Too much RNG and not enough skill expression.
@@NaughtyBotllCuttleUp I agree with and share your feelings on everything you said in that second comment. I can't be bothered with ladder after I hit infinite. At least I can accrue extra boosters by playing conquest so the games have a slightly more rewarding outcome.
25 years old here, my first phone was the LG VX9400, the one iron man uses in the beginning of the first movie. You bet ur ass i spend 30 seconds yyping the word "so"
When I got to Infinite for the first time with a deck I created on my own, it was all so fun, but getting infinite every season became boring. But this mode was the only thing I played this week cause it was fun
Bounce has ALWAYS been my favorite archetype. So many tools, so many fun ways to manipulate locations, drop surprise power and counter meta decks. Excited to plug and play toxin :)
Alex, you need to send Cozy some Canadian candy and chips. He probably hasn't had ketchup chips before! FYI nibs are awesome, one of my fav. It's like eating very flavourful soft plastic!
They don't care. They will stick Jean Grey and stuff in for the 1000th time. All my Jean Grey / Daken and Shaw variants are all unwanted through the spotlight system
44:30 I don't know Cozy. Wasn't the snappy battles AND variants the reason we all got into Snap. Isn't more variance on the collection side in dire need? We have High Voltage, Deadpool's Diner, Bounties, Leagues, Conquest, and Ladder. That's a lot for gameplay stuff. Character Masteries adds the duo of something else to strive for gameplay wise and rewarding more collection stuff. I'm of the camp where I want everything but draft mode. That's just me. I don't see an incentive to play it right now. Never had one I liked. But I wouldn't mind other modes. I'm happy when the ltes show up. But I think this road map and character Masteries was a massive W.
So much fun playing HIGH VOLTAGE. Such a wild game for new combos and new ideas and to be able to play decks you can't ever play in vanilla Snap. Stakes vs no-stakes works if you have the choice. I won't even mind playing HIGH VOLTAGE for silly borders or even no reward ever. Hell, it would be even better if they allowed you to play any card regardless of whether or not you own it.
As someone with a MAJOR losing ratio, I love that High Voltage doesn't impact my rank. I can't stop losing but at least it doesn't feel like a major feel-bad
I'm surprised no one is talking about how toxin will be the first card to be able to bounce beast back. I think them bouncing eachother until turn 7 could be interesting
I thought I cared about stakes for sure, but this week anytime I went into regular queue it just felt so bad. I need something like High Voltage around all the time so I can just get in, do some dailies, have some fun, and get out. There will still always be times where I want to try and climb ladder, but it certainly won't be all the time anymore after this. Here's hoping it might either come around more often or something new will come of it.
I love if second dinner can fix the dupe situation with cache Atleast give 3,000 tokens each for getting martyr 3 times in a row this season and last season
Draft Mode would be cool if they show each player 24 random cards right out of the gate and then players take turns picking from those cards. You might even include 2 extra cards... this might give Second Dinner the option to see what cards are not being picked in Draft Mode too so they might see what cards might need a little boost. I also think you should be able to see all 3 locations before you draft so each player can better plan their deck. It would be cool if this expanded out to 4 players too with 48 cards out there to pick and then feature a sort of Double Elimination format with those decks and those players.
Totally agree with the high voltage being so pure in the first 48 hours. Once the weekend hit it just devolved into decks rushing priority turn 1 or 2 and ruining your cards from there on with Alioth. I found Cosmo to be a more fair experience when playing my greedy on reveal decks.
Them re adding character mastery explains why all the reaction sets have been weird choice for the albums like nicepool instead of deadpool, Spider-Man being iron spider and carnage/venom only being transforming
I’m with Alex I often incorporate Ice Man in my bounce decks, think about hitting Ajax so no on curve Ajax or hitting scorpion to get more cards out before they get hit. Also agree with Nico Cozy you can move to closed off areas which is so underrated also a possible six power for free on turn six for zero cost with hood.
Why Alex! Why did did you reveal our secrets so publicly. The 'bathroom break' has been a staple of my parenting for so many years. My wife is literally, "WTF, you do that don't you".
Hey guys!! Love the stream as usual And i love the banter between you too, especially at the beginning when you talk about other things!!! And yes, please do a candy tier list. As a candy hoarder, I would love that.
The same thing happened to me, I was lacking some keys to ensure I got Scorn but I thought eh, I'll get 5000 credits by playing High Voltage, for sure I'll be able to get more keys, and I used 2 keys for 1000 tokens and a Sebastian Shaw variant
@@thesamuraiman so from what I recall, the concept would be you would progress your mastery based on playing the card and doing things specific with it, for example, “move X amount of cards with Spider-Man”. Here it’s more based on splits from how I read it
@@JotaKingterothey over complicated it with the high volume of cards it was a impossible task to give super unique paths etc. for the 400+ cards in the game this way it’s more streamlined for the game as a whole while still giving unique rewards reactions and possibly limited variants in the future for hitting x level
I agree with the sentiment of draft mode but it definately NEEDS to be refines IF they plan to charge for it, of which they will most likely do so. If its free then you can afford to let it be a little more and run the Gauntlet so to speak
It's so strange that a card named Toxin is a bounce card and not an affliction card (he has poisonous fangs after all!). Then again, Snap have rarely given a character's card an ability that has anything to do with the character (which is absolutely baffling to me as to why you would do that with licensed characters.)
Many characters don’t have an ability that translates well to just a card game. I’d say they hit the major ones. Spider-Man moves, magneto as well, hulk big dumb, Galactus destroys worlds, Doom has Doom bots, venom absorbs, Deadpool revives etc, same with Wolverine, and some are conceptual Sage is a tactician she looks at the board an is “stronger” with math. There are obviously misses but at some point they have things they want to do with the game mechanically and just need a vessel
@@TheMadMedek There are quite a few that they've managed to accurately portray in Snap, but there are many, many more whose card ability has absolutely nothing to do with the character. As for many not having an ability that translates well to a card game, I disagree. I don't think there's any Marvel character's ability that they could not accurately (or at least very closely) portray in Snap. Take Madame Web for example. Her ability has absolutely nothing to do with the character as the character is a precog. But Howard the Duck's ability (which makes absolutely no sense for him) would suit Madame Web perfectly!
The only "issue" I have with high voltage is that wins basically mean nothing. Getting 20 points per win when you need 11,000 for max rewards, but the missions give you 875 every 8 hours means there was very little reason for me to try to win, and even less real reason to play when there's no missions to be completed. I love the mode and its definitely fun seeing the crazy combos, but personally I think having wins actually matter would help the mode be even better.
I went back to ladder after days of High Voltage, simply because the daily quest needed snaps, and I was sighing the entire time because I just wanted to go back to HV! Also, my favorite HV card is Leader. I could never make him work in Ladder, but he won me so many games in HV 🤣
I agree completely with the points made in draft mode. We don't need decks that are meta-based in draft mode. I think if they are really concerned with certain cards being underutilized or never being picked, they could perhaps flag it under a certain archetype that you get slightly better odds of pulling that archetype more in later picks. But yeah we don't need hela decks or knull decks flooding draft mode, that defeats the purpose of it
There is a deadpool for sale in the shop now.I didn't ulock the base card yet, and i really don't like how this variant looks like.If i buy it, can i find base variant in the collector's cache later on or it will be available only in the skin store?
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T9 texting discussion was not on my bingo card for opening discussion topic, haha.
Learning t9 after the standard touchtone texting was a true limit break akin to swyping v typing 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I loved T9 texting. You could text while driving and not look down, all because you could feel the buttons and know how many times to press 3 to get an e
Shockingly, I use T9 texting for an interdepartmental phone at work. Only have to write on it to add contacts, but it still is that way!
HUH
The only reason draft mode isn't here yet is because they haven't figured out how to monetize it.
THEY LITERALLY EXPLAINED IN THE PATCH WHY DRAFT MODE IN SNAP IS DIFFICULT TO DESIGN IN A FUN AND INNOVATIVE WAY
I mean its going to be monetized the same way as it is in other tcgs, a couple hundred gold or $2-3 to enter, with really shit rewards unless you beat it. People should not under any circumstances be expecting it to be free.
@@simeon6669that’ll never happen in Marvel Snap
@@icenoviceAnd as Cozy and Alex noted: their reason is BS. The whole point of draft mode is that the decks aren’t as high powered as they are in constructed, so different strategies and cards can shine.
We do not need them to figure out how to design draft mode so that playing a discard deck feels “as good” as it feels on ladder. We just don’t. People have already played draft mode using out-of-game tools. It works fine with the game as-is.
@@icenovice...but if people can play with a card or many cards they do not own...what's the point of selling cards?
High voltage for me was so exciting. I could play any deck i wanted without fear of losing rank or wasting time. I really wish they would leave it in as a permanent game mode. I usually avoid conquest and would love this as an unranked mode.
As strong as loss-aversion is i truly think a true casual mode is needed for the health of the game. High Voltage has made the game a truly relaxing and fun experience minus the fun-killing alioths and cosmos lol
This would ruin the mystique of the game mode…. Should be a weekend game mode or biweekly mode to give it that rush of players everytime it “re-releases”
@@dg2161 Love the idea of "High Voltage Weekends". Kind of like the old weekend only challenges before they were absolute shite.
@@dg2161I agree I didn’t play it much but that’s because I had family/personal situations going on. But from what I see/heard it’s fun I would love a weekend only mode and maybe make a top 100 get a bonus either credits or variants probably for an incentive.
I don't understand why they made a new game mode for Marvel Snap that doesn't have snapping. Why would you remove the one thing that makes Snap unique amongst other card games? I mean, it's in the game's name!
Hearthstone has a "Tavern Brawl" mode I loved that, each week, you'd get a new rule set to play the game in that mode. Not every week was a hit, but it was nice to have a weekly mode that did something new. These limited time modes like High Voltage could be part of a "weekly rotation mode" like tavern brawl is to hearthstone. Just slap some decent rewards to it and you've got something that keeps the game fresh every week
tavern brawl was a completely dead mode that 99% of people played once for the pack, not sure it's the best example to pitch to SD
Alexander Coccia: What do I love about this game?
Also Alexander Coccia: Surfer 🏄♂️ 🏄♀️ 🏄
😂😂😂
Cozy: “Remember back when we used to do texting this way?”
Alex: “Yeah! And you know how us dads sit on the toilet for like 25 minutes to hide from our kids?”
Cozy: “Lol what”
25:58 I think it was Human torch😅
true
MAILBAG - hoping for a miles rework, feels fine to play but a bit too boring for a character that popular, hoping for a cool activate effect with his electricity or invisibility, love the podcast.
You're crazy miles is perfect
He is usually a 1-6 which is pretty good bro
I agree a lot of the popular and really well known characters are not great in the game or are just boring to play
I feel like this is a flawed way to look at game balance. He's a fine card, makes his decks better, but we need to rework him because he's popular.
@@pixelbomb97 he’s not really used though, snap usually likes to spice up unused cards
Agent Venom bounce was already one of the best decks in the game. It was in Alex's top 10. Toxin is going to just dominate.
Eh, bounce is easily countered by cosmo and the scream deck
@@randomhero6365Killmonger also and good players wait till turn 6 so you can't swoop em on 4/5
@@Faltzerbeast90bounce does a good job at dodging priority tho, its not that simple, especially since killmonger is either in destroy or surfer which do well at getting priority. Cosmo is the big main counter thats hard to flunk on
My half bounce deck was so good with Agent Venom. It destroyed almost every play type because I never lose priority for killmonger to work. Also those scream players get turned into 1 trick ponies.
So glad we have Sandman to balance it - oh wait.
30:34 the advice everyone needs to hear. I have never hit infinite because i dont want this game to be a chore
I got to 80 last month, but yeah most of the time I hover in the 60s. I like trying to make some crazy niche deck sometimes. It may not work, but I don't always want just a cookie cutter deck.
Imo, the only reason to ever strive for infinite is if the card back is cool.
Couldn't agree more
the real advice: if you want to hit infinite just grind out the first couple days when its full of bots as you rise quickly. if you get stuck and/or go slow youre going to end up playing try hards looking to level later
@xcwarrior i feel like you can make it to infinite with any deck as long as you tlretreat and sbap well. I never play decks that are remotely close to the meta and I make infinite I'm the first week each month.
42:33 Exclusive variants have been in albums since the start. One of the first albums had the Jim Lee Magneto which was a 7 day reward back in December
I almost completed the new Venom bundled thanks to this. I’m surprised they didn’t know about this or look at albums a lot closer.
4:00 yes everywhere this is done. People who live in some-remote areas always go to neighborhoods. Who wants to walk 3x as far for less candy?
PhastosEnjoyer more like CandyMinMaxEnjoyer
Human Torch won the vote last year
and no one uses the variant even tho move is meta 😂 shang chi should’ve won i ended up buying it
@@coolshirtkidI feel like so many people ended up buying that and I never see the torch variant… then again it’s been a year and the playerbase then is definately not the same now
@@dg2161 the harsh reaction to rian gonzales’ art was so disgusting and disappointing to see from the community at that time. she’s one of the best artists working in the industry
I just had variants I liked better for Shang Chi, so it was an easy pick for me to go Human Torch
@@coolshirtkid not true, i use that torch skin - its my favorite. and is move really meta?
The thing I was most looking forward to with Character Masteries was the achievement stuff like "Get Deadpool up to 100 power!" but from what I've seen that's the part that was scrapped. That's pretty disappointing to me.
13:07 Toxin is a 2 cost.
T1 Hawkeye
T2 Toxin
T3 Hawkeye + Hood + Kitty
T4 Kitty + Beast
T5 Kitty + Hawkeye + Hood + Toxin
T6 Demons and Hawkeye and Monkey and Mysterio or whatever.
He's also got Destruction Potential. An alternate to a Turn 3 Carnage, then you can Carnage the same cards in a different lane. Then Toxin is a Venom target.
@@RoadWulfAgent Venom on Top.
21:53 In the comics, Cosmo is/was a male dog. In the MCU, she's a female dog.
i knew it!
Another classic M-SHE-U moment; Cosmo has gone woke 🤦🏼♂️ when will they learn smh my head
@TerryB2 it's a dog 😂😂😂
@@TerryB2are you ok bud??
We all know it's just a dog, but I really understand Terry's point of view. As an old Marvel zombie (or fan, if you'd like it better) I'm also disturbed by the fact that so many MCU characters have a different gender or ethnicity from the original characters. And, just to be clear, I've always loved characters such as Miles or Miss Marvel (long before she became Captain Marvel), even if they don't mirror my gender or my ethnicity. But to see Taskmaster as a woman or stuff like that disturbed me as well.
Opening Venom’s nuts is insane Alex 😂😂😂😂
I think toxin fits in clog and affliction decks. Bouncing selene hazmat or hood, will give a lot of extra power and some defensive in mirror matches
I agree. Say way people where putting Madame Web into only move decks when she was good in other decks. I think Toxin will work the same but very good with Affliction
high voltage was so fun! i played an "agents of arishem" deck (arishem + all the random generation shield cards)
was so much fun and felt a little bit like a draft mode because every game was completely different, i even had some amazing hulkling moments!
Here’s what I want in customization. Give us the ability to assign different card backs to each card in our deck.
Oh, they could take ideas from board games for Draft Mode. There are "I cut, you choose" board games. Image players take turns - Player 1 gets 4 cards, they have to group then into 2 sets of 2, then the other person gets to pick which pair they want and the person who grouped them gets the other pair. Alternate who does the cutting and who does the choosing. An alternative is the "cutter" is shown say 12 cards from the "draw pile". They select 3 cards to present to the Chooser, the others are put back into the draw pile. Chooser picks 1, cutter gets the other 2. Keep going until all cards are drafted.
1:58 triple tapping, t-9 texting, pre-qwerty texting, you tell me!
Third card from the vote last year was Human Torch btw lol
I think another important discussion with toxin is his relationship with falcon. There are some situations where falcon becomes better. In a meta where bounce is very good and people are running cosmo, falcon allows you to bounce your one drops that are on the cosmo location letting you dodge the cosmo entirely. In most situations Toxin will be better but falcon could be the get out of jail bounce card if people are trying to counter bounce. I do think falcon needs to give the cards he bounces +1 power tho. There's almost no other reason to play him and he just doesn't do as much as the other options.
+1 falcon is too good with bounce and that's the only place falcon is used. They would have to nerf falcon quickly after or make him a 3 cost card - which also makes him unplayable.
@@Phillyset is it really "too good"? Assuming you bounce 3 cards like beast and toxin can that only makes him a 2 6 while toxin can get higher than that still and beast still has cost reduction. Falcon just needs a reason to play him besides just bringing them back to the hand. Or else he's just gonna be forgotten.
@@trevorpyka2052 bounce is already one of the best decks in the meta right now (pre toxin) and that deck includes falcon. Giving him plus one makes the deck ridiculous. He may need a rework, but +1 is too strong for the deck he's played in. +1 falcon is as good as activate discard 2 hell cow for Hella players.
@@Phillyset yeah but they can just adjust falcons power to compensate. The things falcon needs is a reason to play him besides the bounce. The other two cards have it. Maybe he's a 2 1 with plus 1 idk. I'm just saying he needs that second reason to play him or else there no point besides a second back up option.
Okay as a person that has lived in wi my whole life, that bit about Canadian Halloween and complaining that the costumes can’t go over the coats. We’ve been buying bigger costumes to fit over our coats for generations. You definitely CAN do it
3:22 - It was at this moment that Alex realized sarcasm didn't work on Cozy....
43:50 i am going through my mba, and just did a section on Managing projects and funding them. And it is 100% the friction between making money (developing more monetization routes) and ... fun. I don't doubt SD would love to be more 80/20 fun-focused but *shockingly* the investors are wanting that flipped. I give them grace because that's likely the least fun part of the job.
It's Ghost's time to shine. Bounce always throws priority, but Ghost says you can't hide from Shang-Chi and Shadow King. Killmonger behind Invisible Woman is also insane. Bounce players are gonna need Caiera as much as zoo decks pretty soon. Losing priority always leaves you vulnerable to Cosmo and Alioth too. Bounce is fun but I find it one of the hardest archetypes to master.
I have always liked ghost, but it's just not a very good curve play I fear. Especially if I have to sequence Ghost to get the most effective Shang/SK
ghost should just make your cards affect unrevealed cards, it’s much more efficient, safe, and in-character
what they could do for draft to add another element to your deck building, is to add like traits or bonuses. For example you would get a choice of three traits/bonuses before you start picking cards such as ex. "1 extra energy per turn" or "All cards in your deck recieve +1 power" or "Start with a 6 cost card in hand, it costs 0 this turn only". That way if you really didn't find synergy amongst the cards you drew, you could still build your deck around a general trait, if that makes sense. Sort of like the effects we already recieve from the locations. I dunno lol .. food for thought.
I gotta say the dp's diner experience really scarred me. The combination of the continuous tilt, the toxic only arishem or arishem counter decks dynamic, and the seemingly neverending grind was an overall very miserable experience that I now dont want the diner experience ever again.
I finally got to play Odin into the wong black panther, arnim zola combo, that felt so cool
The last winner of the community vote was Human Torch.
I joined an alliance when they launched, and I have never been in the top three point-getters (outside of maybe a few hours on Tuesday right after rollover). This week, thanks to High Voltage, I've been sitting in the #1 spot all week. I even stopped playing High Voltage yesterday after getting the Iron Man variant, and I'm still sitting on top with more than 25% more points than second spot. This is also the first week where I've got enough points to get all the personal rewards. So clearly, High Voltage got me playing a ton more!
Human Torch was the fan-voted variant last year.
I 100% don’t even buy money bundles for cosmetics anymore. I don’t even rmbr the last time I did. Just the battle pass and that’s it and even then, I have to like something in there to buy it. I can’t say I’m excited for the super premium bp… But I guess we will see what it is and if it keeps the game running, I guess it’s a necessity. I did really like that High Voltage was very casual and chill and FUN and new! Conquest has been drier than a desert honestly and sometimes I don’t even bother to do it.
Something different that would be very nice is like an option to get more credits than boosters or vice versa on the collection track bc I have way too many boosters and my credits can NEVER keep up at this rate… And/Or boosters for the cards I like most and not random cards that I don’t care about. I want to see my favorite cards/variants in my favorite styles, but sometimes the meta doesn’t allow me to play the card (I feel this often really bc the meta isn’t always friendly to multiple decks)
Persona 5 (RPG game of over 100 hours playtime) developers added a fun loading screen icon that said "Take Your Time". That advice is wise when playing the game. It reminds players to enjoy the game and take a minute to consider your decisions.
Deadpool Diner's communication was confusing. SD encouraged people to play fast and raise the stakes. The first day, many people could not do so. Later in the week, it was discovered the best way to play the mode was to TAKE YOUR TIME.
I thought that detail showed some of the holes in an immature game mode.
Yellow / white man on the left, and red/ purple man on the right 😅 for some reason i can't focus on the topic looking at you guys today 😅 like Angel- Devil meeting, it fits for Halloween
Diner: bad feeling, good free card
Voltage: good feeling, bad free card.
Alioth and Cosmo were totally part of that gong show. If the only way to encourage people to engage is through gambit pew-pew, then it isn’t a successful mode; but because there were ways to knock down those decks, it was fun. If it is just mirror-decking gambit/wong combos then the winner is whoever randomly draws the right cards first. That’s not a strategy.
Agree completely on the "no stakes" part of High Voltage being the best part of it. When I play ladder I always get stuck in the 90s, and I haaaaaate playing there because it's so stressful and I play for hours to go up/down a single rank. The prize at the end - playing in Infinite - is such a big deal because there are no more stakes. I personally don't care about my SP (when I was lucky enough to make infinite), so it was consequence-free play and it was amazing. HV brings some of that back, which made it have that stress-free feeling again.
The game mode itself should be limited - I'm already sick of seeing Wong combos everywhere - but I'll look forward to it coming back every other month or w/e... like the McRib.
Cozy, I think you nailed it. I like the idea of the exclusive variants coming back, but treat them like comics in that the "2nd printing" has something different about it so if you've got a "1st printing" you still have bragging rights. No idea WTH that is, but I do know that I'm one of the folks Alex was referencing in that I missed the Throg card first time around and I do want it. Heck, I want the "I got a rock" title more than anything else. But bear in mind, I am terribly odd.
What Marvel snap really needs is a card destroy/recycle option. I have too much junk in my collection that needs to be recycled for credits or tokens.😢
Thank you Alex.
I've literaly never signed in to watch a video on RUclips but I came here to say thanks. At around the 26-27 mark Alex mentions how Snap needs a casual mode. And I have felt this for so long!
As a long time poker player I've never liked the Snap mechanic. It's fine for the purpose it serves but it doesn't make the game better. I just want to play cards and do fun stuff with Marvel characters.
Win or lose I'm having fun. Is my oponent setting up a ridiculous Living Tribunal / Iron man combo for 100s of points? Ill lose to that just to see them pull it off.
Love High Voltage, it's the best thing they've done since custom cards.
Interestingly all the points you just listed as your pros about the game mode, are the exact things that I disliked about it😂. Not that i hated it, it was fun as a temporary event. But I far preferred DP's dinner.
Deadpool's Diner does the entire snap mechanic best. In ladder it feels like an add on just so they can have a ranking system not based on win loss. You can literally have a 60% WR and still lose cubes.
I dunno like I said I don't think cubes add any meaningful depth to the game, unless all you care about is a ranking system and nothing about this game makes me want to play it competively. Too much RNG and not enough skill expression.
@@NaughtyBotllCuttleUp I agree with and share your feelings on everything you said in that second comment. I can't be bothered with ladder after I hit infinite. At least I can accrue extra boosters by playing conquest so the games have a slightly more rewarding outcome.
25 years old here, my first phone was the LG VX9400, the one iron man uses in the beginning of the first movie. You bet ur ass i spend 30 seconds yyping the word "so"
When I got to Infinite for the first time with a deck I created on my own, it was all so fun, but getting infinite every season became boring.
But this mode was the only thing I played this week cause it was fun
Bounce has ALWAYS been my favorite archetype. So many tools, so many fun ways to manipulate locations, drop surprise power and counter meta decks. Excited to plug and play toxin :)
Alex my man!!! Another swipe texter!!! Respect!
forgetting the human torch winning the vote last year was hilarious
Watching like a hawk to make sure kids don't take more than one candy bar is pure dad copium...I'm with ya guys!
I have never heard of Nibs but those sounds amazing!! Also I’m pretty sure the community vote last time was the InHyuk Lee Human Torch variant
It was Human Torch and yes it was the winner. Wish we had gotten the Rian Gonzales Shang Chi
I personally voted for the Ghost Rider, though that was never going to win lol
49:54 Lends me to believe that SD doesn't really understand what draft mode is and what people want out of it....
Alex, you need to send Cozy some Canadian candy and chips. He probably hasn't had ketchup chips before! FYI nibs are awesome, one of my fav. It's like eating very flavourful soft plastic!
Did not expect to hear smite come up on the snap chat, great episode
Mailbag: When is Cozy gonna travel up north for poutine? It’s the Canadian fish taco 😁
Human Torch got first place during the First Year Anniversary Community Vote.
the thing with all those idea is, how to compact those assets(image, sound, effect) so the memory not be 14gb size.
That Canadian halloween discussion got me haha !
The spotlight caches need a better balance, Zabu + Elsa Bloodstone is really weak as returning cards.
Or just stop with all the series 4 cards in the spotlights
They don't care. They will stick Jean Grey and stuff in for the 1000th time. All my Jean Grey / Daken and Shaw variants are all unwanted through the spotlight system
44:30 I don't know Cozy. Wasn't the snappy battles AND variants the reason we all got into Snap. Isn't more variance on the collection side in dire need? We have High Voltage, Deadpool's Diner, Bounties, Leagues, Conquest, and Ladder. That's a lot for gameplay stuff. Character Masteries adds the duo of something else to strive for gameplay wise and rewarding more collection stuff. I'm of the camp where I want everything but draft mode. That's just me. I don't see an incentive to play it right now. Never had one I liked. But I wouldn't mind other modes. I'm happy when the ltes show up. But I think this road map and character Masteries was a massive W.
So much fun playing HIGH VOLTAGE. Such a wild game for new combos and new ideas and to be able to play decks you can't ever play in vanilla Snap. Stakes vs no-stakes works if you have the choice. I won't even mind playing HIGH VOLTAGE for silly borders or even no reward ever. Hell, it would be even better if they allowed you to play any card regardless of whether or not you own it.
Another cosmetic reward from Dota that could be integrated into Snap is Voicelines as you climb on Character Mastery.
As someone with a MAJOR losing ratio, I love that High Voltage doesn't impact my rank. I can't stop losing but at least it doesn't feel like a major feel-bad
I'm surprised no one is talking about how toxin will be the first card to be able to bounce beast back. I think them bouncing eachother until turn 7 could be interesting
I thought I cared about stakes for sure, but this week anytime I went into regular queue it just felt so bad. I need something like High Voltage around all the time so I can just get in, do some dailies, have some fun, and get out. There will still always be times where I want to try and climb ladder, but it certainly won't be all the time anymore after this. Here's hoping it might either come around more often or something new will come of it.
47:02 yeah THAT I agree with, Cozy. For sure!
I love if second dinner can fix the dupe situation with cache Atleast give 3,000 tokens each for getting martyr 3 times in a row this season and last season
Draft Mode would be cool if they show each player 24 random cards right out of the gate and then players take turns picking from those cards. You might even include 2 extra cards... this might give Second Dinner the option to see what cards are not being picked in Draft Mode too so they might see what cards might need a little boost. I also think you should be able to see all 3 locations before you draft so each player can better plan their deck. It would be cool if this expanded out to 4 players too with 48 cards out there to pick and then feature a sort of Double Elimination format with those decks and those players.
Totally agree with the high voltage being so pure in the first 48 hours. Once the weekend hit it just devolved into decks rushing priority turn 1 or 2 and ruining your cards from there on with Alioth. I found Cosmo to be a more fair experience when playing my greedy on reveal decks.
Love the Snap Chat, or as I call it, the Kiki and Bouba Podcast🙏🏽
1 bounce card is 1 bounce card.
But 2 bounce cards that CAN bounce each other is going to be glorious 🎉
I’m so happy Cozy married Dekkster, what a cute couple. I just can’t believe he throws it in Alex’s face like that.
I wonder if season pass variants are going to be in the collector's vault
Them re adding character mastery explains why all the reaction sets have been weird choice for the albums like nicepool instead of deadpool, Spider-Man being iron spider and carnage/venom only being transforming
I noticed a couple rocks in the game board that weren’t there before 😂
T9 Word! My friend and I were talking about that just yesterday lol
I’m with Alex I often incorporate Ice Man in my bounce decks, think about hitting Ajax so no on curve Ajax or hitting scorpion to get more cards out before they get hit. Also agree with Nico Cozy you can move to closed off areas which is so underrated also a possible six power for free on turn six for zero cost with hood.
26:16 i think it was human torch
Yeah. Toxin arriving into the Cosmo meta.
6:11 "What the hell's a nib?" My same exact reaction 😂😂
Edit: I just looked it up they're just twizzlers lmao
Whoa. Sidekick shoutout. Old school. Respect.
Why Alex! Why did did you reveal our secrets so publicly. The 'bathroom break' has been a staple of my parenting for so many years. My wife is literally, "WTF, you do that don't you".
Hey guys!! Love the stream as usual
And i love the banter between you too, especially at the beginning when you talk about other things!!! And yes, please do a candy tier list. As a candy hoarder, I would love that.
Absolutely need a candy tier list next week. 100%
LMAO I also thought it was 5000 credits!! I was so sad lol.
The same thing happened to me, I was lacking some keys to ensure I got Scorn but I thought eh, I'll get 5000 credits by playing High Voltage, for sure I'll be able to get more keys, and I used 2 keys for 1000 tokens and a Sebastian Shaw variant
5:12🤦♂️😂😅
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am glad they brought back character mastery
In name only. Not the same thing that was originally proposed
@@JotaKingtero better than nothing
@@JotaKingtero Is it not? What is missing?
@@thesamuraiman so from what I recall, the concept would be you would progress your mastery based on playing the card and doing things specific with it, for example, “move X amount of cards with Spider-Man”.
Here it’s more based on splits from how I read it
@@JotaKingterothey over complicated it with the high volume of cards it was a impossible task to give super unique paths etc. for the 400+ cards in the game this way it’s more streamlined for the game as a whole while still giving unique rewards reactions and possibly limited variants in the future for hitting x level
Series Drops are also coming in December they said.
I agree with the sentiment of draft mode but it definately NEEDS to be refines IF they plan to charge for it, of which they will most likely do so. If its free then you can afford to let it be a little more and run the Gauntlet so to speak
It's so strange that a card named Toxin is a bounce card and not an affliction card (he has poisonous fangs after all!). Then again, Snap have rarely given a character's card an ability that has anything to do with the character (which is absolutely baffling to me as to why you would do that with licensed characters.)
Many characters don’t have an ability that translates well to just a card game. I’d say they hit the major ones. Spider-Man moves, magneto as well, hulk big dumb, Galactus destroys worlds, Doom has Doom bots, venom absorbs, Deadpool revives etc, same with Wolverine, and some are conceptual Sage is a tactician she looks at the board an is “stronger” with math. There are obviously misses but at some point they have things they want to do with the game mechanically and just need a vessel
at the same time, toxin is a friendlier parallel to his father, carnage
@@TheMadMedek There are quite a few that they've managed to accurately portray in Snap, but there are many, many more whose card ability has absolutely nothing to do with the character.
As for many not having an ability that translates well to a card game, I disagree. I don't think there's any Marvel character's ability that they could not accurately (or at least very closely) portray in Snap.
Take Madame Web for example. Her ability has absolutely nothing to do with the character as the character is a precog. But Howard the Duck's ability (which makes absolutely no sense for him) would suit Madame Web perfectly!
The only "issue" I have with high voltage is that wins basically mean nothing. Getting 20 points per win when you need 11,000 for max rewards, but the missions give you 875 every 8 hours means there was very little reason for me to try to win, and even less real reason to play when there's no missions to be completed. I love the mode and its definitely fun seeing the crazy combos, but personally I think having wins actually matter would help the mode be even better.
Out of Context Cozy: "I married Dekkster."
I went back to ladder after days of High Voltage, simply because the daily quest needed snaps, and I was sighing the entire time because I just wanted to go back to HV! Also, my favorite HV card is Leader. I could never make him work in Ladder, but he won me so many games in HV 🤣
Ha! Draft Mode being an image not available. You're too damn funny, man.
I agree completely with the points made in draft mode. We don't need decks that are meta-based in draft mode. I think if they are really concerned with certain cards being underutilized or never being picked, they could perhaps flag it under a certain archetype that you get slightly better odds of pulling that archetype more in later picks. But yeah we don't need hela decks or knull decks flooding draft mode, that defeats the purpose of it
The 1st 24 hrs of HV was the best day in marvel snap..!
A-million % we need a tier list.
Bounce is going to be singularly top tier in a day.
There is a deadpool for sale in the shop now.I didn't ulock the base card yet, and i really don't like how this variant looks like.If i buy it, can i find base variant in the collector's cache later on or it will be available only in the skin store?