360bhp Lotus Emira with AMG Power - Better than the V6 ? | 4K
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Is the Lotus Emira with a 4 cylinder AMG engine better than the V6 ? I take the car around the historic Goodwood Motor Circuit to find out !
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That 2 litre engine to me sounds like its got noise being pumped into the cabin via the speakers. Bet the V6 sounds amazing
V6 is better, but it doesn't rev high enough, but then I'm in a 981 S with a flat 6
Hi Pete. Nice to see you enjoying the Emira. I think i prefer the sound of the V6 and the manual gearbox.
But both are to expensive for me, so i don't have to think about. :)
For now i enjoy my supercharged Elise S2 .:)
Your track driving is getting better and better.
Greetings from the Netherlands 😊
Have I4 on order....thanks for that very honest review...I believe once the dct software is updated and adding a bit more boost, she will be a proper weapon at 100k US.
My cousin has a A45 AMG. that engine is the real deal
And drive a lotus without a warranty?
Be careful about adding boost to the mid engined i4 as cooling may become an issue
@@adrianbennett3761 it's confirmed that all US I4 will have 400hp and updated DCT calibration....aftermarket tuning may not be necessary after all. 😅
@@rd5140 That’s good news. I’m pretty sure that the cooling system will have been looked at simply because those engines run so hot. 400ps from the i4 is probably a precursor to the V6 being deleted. Anyway, you’re buying a fabulous car that will feel very special.
It really has quite a different sound than the V6 doesn't it, yet it looks just the same out on the track. It looks so stable and composed out there. Doesn't look like it wants to kill you either. What a fun little car!
Indeed 👍
nothing like a Ped video to brighten up the day. would love this to tempt me out of a cayman but need more confidence in the quality and reliability. no questioning the looks and handling
An amg engine or merc are bullet proof! Id get a out of your Cayman and into one for these! Looks handling and perfect power! This or v6 Toyota engine again bullet proof Toyota engine you cant loose mate! Go for it!! God bless 🙏❤👍
True. Many nightmare stories from owners and the i4 won’t be released now after the freeze until June 2025. That makes it officially a 4 year wait.
Surprised they made the Emira with less HP than it's predecessor. I owned a 2021 Evora GT and while it was fun in the beginning, i felt it could've used 500HP to give it both track and straight line performance. I sold the Evora GT and quite happy with it's replacement, a Huracan 610, albeit a different price point.
Brilliant - I was the most excited about this version. I was going to say that it sounds good too, but then the Technica shot past haha
😂😂😂
V6 automatic Dark Verdant is how I like the Emira
V6 yes but with manual
Car reviewers be like:
$70k base Porsche 718 4 cylinder with the option for a manual: 😡🤬😡
$100k Lotus Emira 4 cylinder only available in automatic: 😁😁😁
Proof that car reviewers can’t be taken seriously and neither can the commenters that repeat what these reviewers say.
Enjoyed that, good car. If I was in the market for one though it would have to be the V6 manual.
Fair enough!
You can't beat the sweet sounding V6! That AMG lump sounds so shirt😂
Power seems just about right for this car. Lovely video!
Thanks a lot!
To me, an AMG engine should be a deep bass and throaty V8, however, this 4 cylinder lump suits this Lotus to a tee!! That looked like a brilliant car and huuuuuuuge fun to drive.
Beautiful car
The Toyota powered version for me ....manual
sounds like anyone looking for an Emira needs to drive both versions before choosing if they really are that different - much more than just manual V6 vs Auto 4....would be great to see a back to back road test here
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The absence of the 6mt kills it for me
Deffo on my shortlist, even now seeing the drive you just did Ped.
Just waiting for the special edn. V8 powered one, then it would be worth buying. That I4 sounds like a vacuum cleaner, regardless of whether it's in a Lotus or Merc. And the V6 struggles because it's manual only. The chassis can easily handle 400bhp+
you can get the V6 in auto. I have the manual and its a little cluncky but makes you very precise with the gear changes and sounds amazing. Its a great car in any variant. Great video and well done Lotus
I do love a 4 cylinder turbo but v6 suits this car in my opinion
I thought I'd ask a question before Joe asksed it. Is the cabin bigger in the 4 cylinder?
Great video. I think the Emira is one of the best looking cars around.... aesthetics are spot on.
😂😂😂
If I could buy 2 Emiras, the second would be that turbo 4 Dct. But I only got money for one, so manual v6 for me!
That's perfection
Evening my friend. I’d sooner have the 6 cylinder. Lotus has always been my fave car badge.
Mine too!
I think my S1 111S with Rover VVC Engine with Induction Kit and and Janspeed exhaust and manifold sounds better. Perhaps you should borrow an original Elise. I think it would put a much bigger smile on your face with 200bhp less.
I agree with you
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Hello there!
let's see after a few thousand miles... an AMG turbo 4 with DCT vs a Toyota V6 with manual, guess which one will be in the repair shop?
Everyone is giving the Emira big love. Shmee150 went out and bought one and he swears by it. This has the new 4 cyclinder AMG engine. Thing is sound but AMG sound is good sound so this should be a fun package. Love to see your take on it.
Wow...no way, Schmug bought one 🙄🙄🙄
@@klasseact6663 i like shmee150 vids. He has a fleet of £10 million quids worth of cars and he puts miles on like his amg gt black series.
@cephasmakuzva glad you enjoy him, too smug for me, doesn't seem genuine...IMHO
😂😂 a 4 cylinder car never sounds good! A45 AMG car sounds terrible
@markgt894 ahhhh, finally I can chime in here❗️ Have you ever heard our cars inperson? Better yet, one with a mid-pipe or cat-back? Once you hear one of these, come back and chime in, thanks👈
Nice. I would have difficulties to choose between the 4 and 6. AMG is maybe more sensible, if Emira can be called sensible. Would love to see your take on the BYD Seal that's parked behind you at the start.
Good point!
Lotus won't let anyone test Chinese 400hp I4 Emira vs 400hp V6. Love to see comparison on track. Im ordering I4 in a couple years but keeping Evora 400. Rear is lighter and center of gravity is lower making it a better track weapon over V6
I'm so sick of 2.0T taking over everything. They all have the same hollow DSG fart sound. I would have loved to see Lotus use a more exotic poweplant like the Audi 5 cylinder from the RS3. 400hp with a wonderful DCT, I bet the take rate would have been quite high.
Exactly. And you pay a lot of money for that detuned AMG engine. Sorry it’s a joke lotus. Go Home
I don’t understand how they make a DCT so bad, I’ve noticed it on videos of the A45 as well. If they aren’t going to do it properly then don’t bother. Give me a manual every day of the week, twice on Sunday.
I donno, I doubt a lot of people are gonna drop $100k for a 4 cylinder.
Enjoyed this video Ped. A quick question, would it be possible on the next track test video you do, you could put a speedo and time display up?
Would have loved to but cameras must be hard tethered at Goodwood meaning that is very difficult 😢
Brilliant design and engine combo. Is it still a little steep price wise? If they could get these out the door for £50K surely they would fly
2nd hand these be a bargain
unbelievably the £60K has shot up to nearly £80K !! (the website changed the prices over night).
Lovely content Pete - thanks for sharing buddy
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
I have the Emira 2.0 with 405hp in china. It would be faster than the v6 version. But the v6 sounds much more great. The only annoying thing the gearbox software, a little bit laggy. We do hope the engineer from lotus could have an updated gearbox software soon!!
Yes that’s an issue. Due to running 2 ECUs (1 for the gearbox and 1 for the car) and the delay is due to a lag in them communicating apparently 😢
@@PetrolPedYes!!!!!!! So professional, that’s the key!
Lovely smooth driving. Good work..! - It's quite a bit more expensive than the Cayman S, how does it compare? Hopefully, you'll get the chance to review it on the road.
Coming soon 😜👍
Why not put a 3.5 supercharger with an eight-speed dual-clutch gearbox together? I think Lotus engineers can achieve it
Great video thanks! What was this particular car chasis, sport or touring? Did you have the chance to drive both? Preference? Thanks!
No sports mode? Would that have sharpened up the lazy sounding gear changes both up and down the box?
There is a software update due to help with that 👍
Sounds nice, but the 6 pot purrs better, only my opinion of course 👍👍
Considering the v6 has the better sound and this I4 sounds quite lack luster id say it needed a bit of excitement in the gears, a crack on upshifts and a lively down shift would've been nice but at this point why wouldn't you just buy a Boxster/Cayman. shame as the looks are much better than the Porsche in my opinion, time will tell if there's a market for these.
Nice one Pete! Stunning motor!
Many thanks!
Have a nice drive in the petrol version of the Eletra!!
SUPER Lotus Emira!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like there's two up in the car. The two litre AMG probably has a ton of options available for it as well. Maybe lighter too, I would struggle with that reverse park myself, no pressure lol!
What a car, it would ace if they did a manual!
The engine is so tuneable as well to nearly 500hp.
I really enjoyed that, would love one next, will see if B&C can loan me one 🙏🏻
Great driving mate
Thanks 👍
Sweet spot would be the V6 with a DCT. As I get older I care less and less for a manual.
Nice car and very nicely driven.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Looks great but sounds like GT4. Alas not the Porsche but Gran Turismo 4 on the Playstation!
Probably wouldn't stop me having one though...
Absolutely love it nice car great noise definitely right car for track fun 🏁🏁🏁
Couldn't agree more!
Hi Ped
Good looking car with handling to match and even with 4 cylinder maybe a good choice for road use. However would you choose this against a Cayman which would appear to be its nearest competitor?
Long termer coming soon 😜👍
This is the lighter better weight distribution car pick this one not to mention better fuel mileage
Can't wait to buy one of these used in 3-5 years and do do a tune.
Oh yes 👍
What a really nice car and I think if I was in the market for one it would be the auto as then I could concentrate on the throttle and steering even though I do love a manual in a sportier car. Great film as usual Mr P.
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The gearing sounded off to me. Seems to really drop a lot of revs when changing and have to build back up again, like its long geared, whereas my PDK is quick to get back to the red line. Maybe its just the way it sounds on video, or not?. Think id still go V6 Manual.
It is such a pretty car, shame there isn’t an N/A option otherwise that would have been a serious contender against the Cayman, but for me an N/A engine takes it every time 😊
Not gonna argue re the Cayman as I’ve a 4.0 Boxster and love it, but I didn’t rule out the Emira particularly because of the supercharger on the V6 - it’s a great installation and feels far more N/A in its linear delivery than a typical turbocharger which flattens the power curve too much.
Watching you flick the paddles and then hearing it shift sounds like an eternity in between. Doesn't sound like the AMG DCT that I know. Did they have a different transmission tune on it? I.e. - a slower setting?
They have 2 ECUs. That is causing a lag apparently but there is a fix coming soon 👍
Love that car, great fun on real roads. Wonderful.
Such be 👍
Little disappointed that Lotus didn't get the full power from that engine. A45s is good for 420hp, but I guess a tuner will unlock it sooner or later.
I speculate Lotus cannot manage engine bay and exhaust temperatures at more than 360HP.
Doesn’t need it 👍
Absolutely, NOT! Buy the Supercharged V6 with a 6-speed manual!
I would but dont have full use of left leg and wife cant drive manuel. So stuck with auto. Good thing the V6 supercharged also gets auto.
Guaranteed aftermarket will be able to upgrade the 4cyl turbo to much higher outputs than the v6 supercharger
@edbowejr6130 yea I'm not paying 10k for that.
That would be my choice too.
Sounds nice for a 4.
No way Jose. Go for the bulletproof Toyota/Lexus engine and trans.
On the slow downshift, it very much sounds as if the computer is just checking that the human interface knows what it's doing......... and then letting it!!
That has to be one of the best combo's - Lotus engineering and AMG engines!!👍
Slowed up by 2 ECUs apparently. One on the car and one on the gearbox.
@@PetrolPed Hmm - AI, it can only end badly - just ask Arnie!!🤣🙃
Cheers guys
The new EV Lotus will be fast
The i4 in China has the same hp as the v6
Great footage very enjoyable
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice video, but can I ask what helmet you are wearing please?
It’s a carbon Stilo with custom airbrush design by Piers Dowel 👍
The downshift lag is just terrible, like half a second.
That does seem like a well-judged engine & gearbox combination…
By the by, what camera did you use (are you using) for the opening piece to camera? It is pin sharp and has a lovely soft depth of field at that exposure. 👌
That was filmed on a DJI Pocket 3. Brilliant bit of kit 👍
@@PetrolPed Excellent - thank you.
Having fun there fella. At least it wasn't raining and fairly dry... when it is going to stop raining in this country... Looks like a cracking car the Emira...
Bored of the rain now 😢
Wonderful car, but sounds a bit ordinary…give me a howling V6 with a supercharger whine any day over that!😝
I did enjoy it. Will be doing the same with my car on the weekend. My Emira in China has 400hp and 480hp and it is faster than the V6 and handles better. I suppose 8 gears, more power, lighter it should be faster.
Have fun!
Which original alarm system does have he i4?
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The gear shifts look about as fast as the V6. I hear the auto in the V6 is a Lexus sourced unit so I think the supercharger whine and overall sound lean me towards the V6 A/T instead. Really appreciate this video to help put the two into perspective.
I will suggest the MT v6. That at gearbox will not help
This is the one I want
I was going to purchase this car in the US when available. Two problems with it only $360 horsepower it's capable of 550 horsepower and the DCT shifts rather slowly the AMG A45S uses the same gearbox and engine
it shifts a whole lot quicker can somebody enlighten me on this problem.
This car isn’t about maximum power. 360hp is perfect for the chassis. The slow shifts are to do with the car having 2 ECUs apparently. One for the engine and one for the gearbox. The delay is caused by the two communicating. Lotus working on a software fix apparently 👍
Hi ya Peds 👌👌👌👌
Have to say for a four pot it sounds good too
Class...
Love it just Love it...!!! :)
Thank you!!
Reliability anyone??? Replacement cost when the engine blows??
It’s an AMG 🤷♂️
Strange they have detuned the engine to 360?
Would you have the Emira or the A45?
Finally out !!!! Interesting. Was due to be 59k. Imagine it’s 65k up with inflation last 3 years
Is the exhaust sound fake? It sounds a bit odd
is there a lag with down shifts it seems like it compared to a a45
Yes 😬
The gear change was so slow I thought the video was out of sync with the audio.
Come on Lotus. This is not acceptable at this price point. (A price point that has incidentally spiralled out of hand. You're looking nearer to £80K than the promised £60k!)
£85k and £90k actually 😬
I was watching closely. The downshift was very lazy. My C8 Corvette downshifts are super fast. In Canada the Emira V6 is just as expensive as a V8 C8. The Emira is the prettier car, but for performance value for money, it's hard to beat the C8 in America.
Every grandpa has one
@@bman1668 Awesome! Then I'm in great company.
@@dash-ryan what a boomer 🤣🤣
@@bman1668 What's so funny about that?
@@dash-ryan nothing old man enjoy ur Vette
gearbox sounds pretty slow no?
Yes. An issue with the car ecu talking to the gearbox ecu. Software update coming 👍
Slow shifts for a DCT
Yep 👎
Real shame the gearbox is so lazy. The only way to make flappy paddles enjoyable to use is if the engine is responsive to them.😢
a45s has 421bhp (310kw)
It does indeed. Running a different map 👍
If it's the A45S engine it
can be tunned easy to
Get 420hp
Evening All 🎉
Hi 👋