Top 10 P4P Boxers in the 1910s | Sam Langford
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Top 10 P4P Boxers in the 1910s | Sam Langford
Big thank you to all who participated in this and future P4P lists, this is great comprehensive work!
Any chance for a 80 and or 90s? Chavez The Legend has to bin in that one.
Man some of the records are insane! 178-30-38, 131-3-1, 103-29-20, 108-8-3, 89-6, 70-0-5. man these guys were built different! As always great video Rummy!
And the crazy part is many of those records are incomplete and will probably never be completed. They still find langford fights. For over a century george dixons fights were missing they still are missing from his boxrec. He had over 900 fights, and they were finally found by accident .
Built different? Maybe because of diet and training science at the time vs now . And that most of them probably had to work for a living unless they were paid handsome salaries for fights
The difference imo is these guys were fighting to put food on the table and not $20 million a fight at top level for a diamond encrusted gold Rolex. No ducking from these real men from very hard times, of course there were flamboyant characters from that era like Jack Johnson but for the most part very humble hard fighting men that just wanted to make a living with their talent for beating people up🤣👍
Wilde went 91-0-1 longest undefeated record
Having 50 fights or less was probably seen as weak back then 😂.
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A shame that there isn't copious footage of all the early greats the way there would be today. I'd trade 10 minutes of Sam Langford for almost ALL uTube content in existence. Not yours, of course, Rummy. You're the man. 🥊
Crazy crazy, Crazy fool 🎵🎶
We have footage of Langford. Might trade for Harry Greb though.
Sam Langford va Joe Jeanette look it up. Apparently a collector had it and kept it for years until he invited a friend over to watch and the friend filmed it without the collector knowing lol
That 1910 Top 5 could fit into a Top 10 All-Time PFP GOATs. What a stacked decade.
Massive decade. I have Langford and grab as 1st and 2nd greatest to lace them up.
1st! For the first time BTW, and on Rummy's channel no less! An honor indeed. Great stuff Rummy!
Thank you very much, I really appreciate that. Hope you enjoy!
I just wish all these were released at once so I could binge it all 😭😭😭 I’m addicted can’t wait to see 60s-90s
Thanks to everyone who contributed…..great video!
Big man Rummy! Love your work mate 🤟
Appreciate it! Thank you very much, Gunther. Cheers!
Rummy, hearing you talk boxing is like hanging out with my favorite uncle, lighting a cigar, sipping some nice liquor, and just letting you talk your talk. Thank you for another great, highly educational video.
By far 1 of the best channels in boxing
Rummy this is truly great. Proud to be a Welshman watching this and seeing one of our own being decorated by you and your selection panel 🏴
Thank you so much! Cheers!
Perfect for this Friday evening!
Excellent stuff Rummy. Some of the ATG's, indeed. I'm pleasantly surprised that my fellow Brit, Jimmy Wilde finished so high, as he didn't have the greatest resumé. A crazy era, where my top 2 greatest fighters of all time fought. Nice work. Bless up bro 🥊
Wilde did not have a great resume??? The man weighted 100 pounds fighting and beating the best flys, bantams and feathers, of his era. Went nearly 100 unbeaten with a crazy ko percentage for a small fighter.
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Great Job Rummy. For me all of the top 5 are such extraordinary men, that we still talk about them today. Wilde is still regarded as perhaps the best British fighter ever. What Johnson went through outside the ring, and yet endured is unique. I'm glad he was pardoned. Keep up the great work. Johnson will always be my hero.
Thank you very much. That Top 5 truly is a special bunch. For me this has been an especially fun undertaking, and I easily enjoyed the 1910s version the most to date. I am very much looking forward to the 1920s, 30s, 40s, and beyond.
Have a great day! Cheers!
@@RummysCorner I've often thought this is when boxing first became a global interest. With troops travelling around the world to fight, and wanting news from home, you can imagine all the debates over who was best going on, and the rivalries that British and American troops would argue over, in the pubs/bars and trenches.
Johnson went through a lot, but at least he got the opportunity to be great, which was denied to Wills, Langford, & many other great black fighters during that time.
Seems like whenever a colored fighter distinguishes himself at the highest level during those early times, there's always many others of similar abilities who were kept in the background.
Charles Burley (who fought in Ray Robinson's era) is another good example of this dynamic.
Great list, Sam a deserved number one.
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Thanks for the video, Rummy's Corner
Rummy you put so much information and concise facts in these videos thanks.
Awesome channel. Always love the interesting Boxing topics.
Much appreciated, thank you for saying so. Hope you enjoy, and have a wonderful day!
Another great video!
Thank you very much. Very happy to hear you enjoyed. Cheers!
Madone, another top-tier video, Rummy.
I have to accentuate that Langford was one incredible man. Jack Dempsey himself openly admitted that he wanted absolutely no part of that smoke.
“There was one man, he was even smaller than I, I wouldn't fight because I knew he would flatten me. I was afraid of Sam Langford.”
Big up to you Rummy and the volunteers for another great compilation. This particular era was so full of quality you can see how difficult it was to miss out certain fighters. Still, a great assessment as always. Much love...
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Great list, Rummy. Can't go wrong with Wilde, Greb and Langford. What a decade! FrankinDallas
Thanks Fank! Cheers!
I love these videos. Thanks rummy
Could you please do a top 57 Estonian boxers from the 1430s?
Da fuck
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For me, it's:
1. Harry Greb
2. Jimmy Wilde
3. Jack Johnson
Good list though.
Thank You.
Good job.
*good jab 😉
Great work.
Interesting how Jack Sharkey, when comparing Benny Leonard to Sugar Ray Robinson in the Pound for Pound documentary about Robinson, said that Benny Leonard couldn't punch, & yet, going by Boxrec's records, Benny Leonard's KO percentage was pretty formidable....
Most people that follow boxing really wouldn't know much history of the sport or fighters at those times. Unless they heard of old famous names, they wouldn't know much outside of that. Speaking for myself. I learn from listening to channels like yours 👍
Great list RC 💯
Excellent Video 🥊🥊🔔🔨
Awesome Top 5! Even though I am Canadian and a bit biased in favor of Sam Langford, I think your could re-Rank the top 5 anyway you want, and the same Top 5 *SHINE* as all-time Greats as we look up to them as top 5 fighters during a top decade of boxing ...Great in any order as they were all AWESOME in their Primes, just as DURAN and PAC-MAN Calzaghe and Mayweather and Lewis were top 5 in their time (more recently of course).
I'm surprised no one has brought back that _"Ghetto Wizard"_ moniker 😂 That's dope...
126 Kos … just wow , Rummy your the man ❗️ the history of boxing is very interesting to me .
Great Video!
Amazing stuff Rummy, my education continues! F*ck the Color Line.
Shout out to rummy’s corner.. this dude drops some of the best boxing videos on RUclips
I’m sorry but how do you have 1/18 lists without Sam Langford on it? How is that even possible?
The guys made interesting lists. 👍
Hey Rummy! The Gibbons Brothers made me think, why don't you do a video on famous boxing brothers? The Sullivan Twins, the Jeffries, the Spinks, Klitsckos, Charlos, Furies etc. It'd be cool.
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Hope you enjoy, thank you very much!
Great !
Love my boxing history I have old schools book with lots of fact from begging of boxing
what an era, learned so much like my new standard for what having a good chin or steel jaw means haha... #7 what a record, #5 defended his crown for how many YEARS lol, from #3 to #1 the amount of wins just gets more impressive. & The First time I heard the name Sam Langford btw, 13 minutes ago.
"Kid" Lewis should have been a hell of a lot higher!
7:19 Wow thats so bizarre that 'World Coloured Champions' were a thing. And yet back then, it surely would just have been totally normal.
very cool
Wheres the old Mongoose? Just a mention like "and the Olllld Monnnngoose was born in 1913".
You talk about a murderers row?! I take this Top 10 against just about any list in history. Very well done.
I think Greb is the greatest fighter that ever lived. He has a resume that NO ONE can come close to. Just an amazing fighter. Langford is my own personal number 4. Nat Fleisher, the founder of Ring magazine was asked about a fight between Greb and Langford. He knew both men and had often been at ringside for their fights. He loved both guys. But he said that he didn't think Langford could touch Greb. That, along with a 32-11-5 record against Hall of Famers makes him my number one. By the way, he's the only guy on your list that actually beat two of your other Top 10 fighters. Just an unreal legend.
By the way, Duran ( as much as I loved him) is NOT Benny Leonard.
Sammy was able to put his palms to the floor sitting down
Whats the prediction on Aj vs Franklin?? Im hoping Franklin wins im going Franklin in the....7th round
I thought Jack Johnson would have been number 1 but good list anyway.
I agree. I actually believe he's #1 for the 1900s. He fought against more than just his contender in the ring..he was fighting while being a slave.
@@JP-rl4bc Jack Johnson wasn't a slave he was born in 1878 and the civil war ended in 1865 , Johnson's parents were former slaves though .
In 100 years time, I wonder if people will look back at the champions of today with as much admiration.
And if they did, who would they put on their top 10 list.
i think in 100 years time professional boxing as we know it wont exist, and it will be more akin to 3-4 rounds with soccem boppers in a highly controlled environment where once someone wobbles fights ever, athletes fighting once every 2-3 years and the rest being influencer bullshit
My top 17 favorite boxers of all time
1. Sam langford
2. Billy bird
3. Young stribling
4. Len wickwar
5. Willie pep
6. Nicolino locche
7. Packey mcfarland
8. Jimmy wilde
9. Joe gans
10. Barbados joe walcott
11. Obie walker
12. Buck Smith
13. Marcel cerdan
14. Jimmy barry
15. Henry armstrong
16. Charley burley
17. Gogea mitu
Harry Wills has to be one of the most underrated boxers 70-9 are you kidding me
C’MON NOW YALL SAM WAS NICE LOOK AT HIM THAT BOY NICE🔥
Hey Rummy did you see 'La Guerra Civil'? It's the documentary that came out a few months ago about the 1996 fight between Chavez and De la Hoya and the entire culture clash that transpired during the fallout, including how the cartel threatened to murder De la Hoya if he won and De la Hoya's desperate attempts to convince the Mexican people that he was worthy of their respect. You can see the trailer on youtube.
No, I have not. Will keep an eye out for it. Thanks, Erik!
I'm sorry but where the heck is Jack Dempsy?! He boxed in this era and without him, Boxing most likely would have never gotten as popular as it is now because after he completely manhandled Jess Willard people started paying a lot more attention to boxing in general. And we wouldn't have boxers like Rocky Marciano and Mike Tyson. Dempsy most definitely deserves to be on this list. Hell, I'd put him at number 1. Or are you possibly saving him for the top 1920s boxers?
I would need to double check, but I believe Dempsey came in at #15 or #16 in the 1910s. While I haven't even began to look at the 1920s lists yet, my suspicion is that he has better chance of cracking the Top 10 there (although I'm merely speculating).
Benny Leonard and Roberto Duran were both trained by Ray Arcel. And sadly there ia no footage of Harry Greb.
if anything Benny taught Arcel
Gimme a moth and my unrealistic ego would make me believe I'd KO Wilde in the early rounds but I'd say Langford would probably make me look like an absolute fool.
I think footage would have been better than the graphics
I guess Tunney came a little later but he was 48-1-3 having beaten Dempsey twice and Greb 3 out of 5 with one draw. Never KO’d and only saw the canvas once.
I had the top 3 the same. Don't know if I would of put Tommy gibbons on the list though. I would of put lewis at 10 and bumped everyone else up.
Ma-don !
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Langford was the greatest P4P of all time with Ray Robinson a close second.
Good to see you usiing Langford's other nickname and not the racist soundung one that most use.
Grebb 3rd ? I thought he will be no lower than 2nd place.
But I don’t know very much about Wilde so I might be off 🤷🏾♂️
Jimmy Wilde, another incredible puncher, 99 ko's and built like 12 year old child. Harry Greb, wow, 299 fights in 13 years.
If a Harry Greb fight film ever comes to light I think a lot of his supporters will be greatly disappointed and it should prove a lot of laughs.
It’s great for folks to have opinions on this stuff. Makes for wonderful speculation and conversation.
But I simply cannot understand the infatuation with Langford. Here’s a fact for you - not opinion:
- In the final 12 times Langford fought Wills, Langford didn’t win a single match. Not one. Wills won 11 of 12 - with one draw
- Overall, these two met 17 times:
> Wills won 13
> Langford won 2
> With 2 draws
Supreme “Ring IQ”???? Best fighter of the decade???? I think if that were true, he would have figured out how to win more than 2 out of 17 matches against Wills.
So if Jack Dempsey was not in the top 10 , his Prime was in the 1920s ?
Packy McFarland lost to Freddie Welsh which is on film. It was declared a win for Welsh but it was very close. Welsh also beat Leonard in their 1st fight Plus Jim Driscoll doesn’t appear again. At least Wilde was ranked.
Any votes for Les Darcy ?
He finished #18 in the 1910s.
2015 - present = Tyson Fury aka the Gypsy King
Jack got it if think all the other shit too and still perform
Great video! Jack Johnson was part of the color line by refusing to fight fellow black fighters.
Dont listen to BoxRec. McFarland's record is 104-0, not 70-0
Deji
World champion for 1/2 a decade is only#4? I guess
How TF is Jess Willard not top 10? He beat done great heavyweights and KTFO Johnson with one punch. Casuals… 😂
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