for somebody as lovable with a good reputation as charlie youd think he wouldnt have a horrendously large amount of clips that can and will be horribly taken out of context
Griffith lost a sister, his best friend, his ally in Casca, and his brother, friend, confidant in Guts. It's a waste, because there is no greater wealth than human connections. Now he has everything materially, but he is alone and empty despite being surrounded.
Well good for him :D ( don’t care what the f you’re going through, it ain’t no excuse to SA ) ( not talking to you directly, just plp that defend his action against Casca )
Quite literally could have avoided all of this if he didnt try to get back at guts by sleeping with the princess, who he didn't love mind you. And even then guts still came back to save bro. Expelled himself from essentially the largest kingdom in existence as well, just to save Griffith.
@@delgande TLDR:(he is a slave to his ambition). he wanted to rule to make his perfect empire due to him being a peasant he wants to rule. he is a slave to his ambition thats why he crashed out when guts beat him in a fight. he didn't assault casca because he wanted it was all to get back at gut because he knew guts loved casca and he hated that he was the person he couldnt truely control.
There are three fictional characters that I hate unconditionally Griffit from Berserk, Rachel from Tower of God and Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter lmao😂
@@ibrahim_-_-_ He definitely does invoke emotions but not only those of hate. Personally Griffiths is one of my favorite chars around. Not often you get to get interesting antagonist.
It's just because all the "sTrUgGlErS" lose their sh%t when they don't get dino nuggies at the high-class restaurant, let alone know what it TRULY means to struggle and pull yourself out of living, breathing hell. Y'all all call yourselves strugglers but you wouldn't last a day without doordash and instagram. It's absolute cringelord sh%t.
I feel like nobody talks about the realistically millions or atleast 100s of thousands fantasia probably killed because they’re too far away from falconia.
nothing griffith did was good or positive for the world lol, not even falconia. all he did with falconia was make a single safe haven against all the monstrosities out there... which are also caused by griffith. he monopolized safety for the sake of having a kingdom.
@@marvelouschester3018 yep, nothing about griffith is good, he hasnt done anything out of any goodwill. claiming griffith to have done nothing wrong is basically saying "i only paid attention when griffith looked good on the panel"
That’s exactly what Guts was talking about when he said Griffiths ambition will never end. In that last chapter before we see him turn into the Moonlight boy he’s literally saying how Fantasia basically created a blank slate for him to expand his empire and rule over the entire world.
Ultimately Griffith will become another victim of Causality™ No matter how much good he might do as Femto, what he did in the past as Griffith will continue to haunt him for as long as the series continues and possibly undo everything.
@@pangolinreading2099 no.. no they are not. Griffith in his last moments of humanity, begged guts and his band to stay back and simply allow him to kill himself.. when the behelit activated.. he tried to warn them but had no tongue and could not speak.. Femto is a husk, soulless creature, the shadow of Griffith.. all of his bluster, egoism and ambition with none of the redeeming qualities.
majority of it was Kentaro big panels in particular man had understudies it's why the manga itself is continuing in his honor as far as fitting his vision, they've really impressed me, and I'm glad they're not rushing the process
You know that everything and everywhere outside that city is literal hell, and he could simply stop it all, but he doesn't care and the fact that everything is burning, and he is the "savior" just serves to boost his ego because in the end it is his fault everything outside that city is hell, and he could simply not make it hell if he wished so.
The Berserk Fandom in 2013: "Berserk is a allegorical tale of overcoming suffering and learning to find trust in the a world full of cruelty." The Berserk Fandom in 2023: "cAsCa eNjOYed It"
I have a question, when I watched that sec I thought she was enjoying it because of how her face looked like and she sees past Griffith in that sec But if so many people saying she didn't enjoy it , can you explain why ? (Don't be mad I watched bersek just yesterday and I just wanna know why yall say she didn't enjoy it)
@@astreusastresus198 she only bitched at guts when he was knew to the band, after awhile they became really good comrades and eventually even lovers. no reason to hate the queen Casca.
@@nxrth9463 Don't call her "the queen" weirdo. Also, my point still stands. People hate her for when she was like that. I don't think it's worth hating her for but some people do
@@Yassin5643i thought the same too, granted he did have the writing skills to make it interesting but all these seems like he's putting all his degeneracy into a comic. Especially the amount of feminine little boys he put in there he probably needed therapy (or jail)
Is that something people say? Because I read the manga, I remember the r@pe scene (couldn't forget a single panel even if I wanted to) and there was 0 joy in that whole ordeal
@@Konpekikaminari It's ragebait, people say it intentionally cuz it pisses people off, not because they actually think casca enjoyed it. (she did enjoy it)
I believe there are actual people who think that Casca felt pleasure And because she did she either subconsciously or even fully knowning liked it. Or she liked it because it was Griffith. And she did have a crush Never say never. There are people like that
Reasons to like Griffith: • he is (was) pretty • he is powerful • he is edgy as hell if you’re into that Reasons to dislike Griffith: • [sorry, it hit RUclips’s character limit]
Of course, strawmanning at its finest. Let's ignore whole character development of Griffiths and literal theme of the book which is struggle against overwhelming odds (and Griffiths story is what happens when one passively goes along the flow) and just reduce it to shallow points that can be "righteously" defeated
@@verti3213 bro.. its a joke 💀 Berserk is one of my favorite mangas, and I get the theme of the story. I love him as a character and plot device. I’m just saying he still did a lot of horrible shit to a lot of innocent people
@@kioiswaiting ahh I'm sorry then. I saw a lot of Twitter like ignorance and saw blood lmao. But yeah you're right about Griffiths victims. Frankly the most I felt bad for whole Hawk Band as he betrayed those who loved and trusted him. The rest are just nameless faces.
Griffith fan: Yes he did all thouse things but look he created Falconia an Utopy on Earth Normal people: yeah? And what about... THE REST OF THE WORLD?! Grifiit fans: we don't talk about that
You fail to realize that a large portion of people on earth are complete and utter psychopaths. Like I’m talking about normal seeming people, but on the inside of their extremely tiny cranium there’s a small piece of grey matter that wants nothing but death and misery for those around them. It’s pathetic
Because it’s a fictional character? Because people are allowed to like fictional characters? People like Trevor (GTA, who’s an implied grapist), Eren (AoT), Ghost (COD) etc. doesn’t mean they support what they do in RL.
This my first time seeing the colored version of the manga and I just finished the arcs except the newer chapters since over 5yrs before the creator died! This looks beyond incredible! In memory of Kentaro Miura 🕊️🕯️
There are a LOT of things in the world that we wish would never happen, BUT that doesn't mean they have no place in a story or part of a narrative, AND because an author depicts something unpleasant in his/her tale, doesn't automatically follow s/he's in favour of it.
I've watched that very scene from beginning to end as a kid on my grandparents (father's side) old tv. It didn't traumatize me for some reason. I was like "huh? What's that white haired person doing to the woman ?" And i always thought it was a woman. Seriously, man. My childhood was weird. I keep seeing things i shouldn't be seeing, but saw them anyways.
You’ve witnessed so much horrible things that you’ve grown accustomed to seeing it. I know this, because I felt the same way. It was shocking, sure, but I’ve seen so much more worse things than a weird hentai scene. Gen Z, as a whole, are like this normally. Our access to the internet and the ability to see things that we shouldn’t have so easily and freely have corrupted and destroyed our innocent minds. But, it just means we matured faster than a lot of people our age back then.
She enjoyed it with Griffith, at least in the moment she did at the peak of ecstasy. And she definitely enjoyed it physically speaking. And that doesn't make what happened right either. I love Griffith but the sa of Casca was the one thing I didnt like about him.
Could’ve made Griffith kill Casca, desecrate, then brought her back to live/left her dead. Or had Guts imagine it all. Why? he didn’t actually committed sa. People always argue on the morality/levels of wrong of desecration. “He’s a bad guy,but at least he didn’t commit…” is a legit excuse I seen people use to justify other horrible characters.
Honestly, its the author's fault, like ok guts gets raped as a kid, but his personality from then on is confident and strong, it doesen't feel like it had any effect on him growing up which is really fucking unrealistic. While Casca gets raped and then has a full mental repression breakdown and become mentally ill and insane. Its the falsehood perpetuated by media that guys can just suffer trough hell and ignore it while girls are fragile little flowers that get completely emotionally fucked from any trauma doesen't matter how tough they are they will never recover. Honestly know a lot of people who got graped, and they react diferently to the experience, but some girls can definetly live on and even prosper dealing with the trauma tough they still have emotional scars and same thing for guys.
I think it reflects how society reacts to men getting graped compared to women. Nobody bats an eye because it's rare for men to get assaulted. But just because it's rare, doesn't mean it never happens. Because of this, men never get as much help and support, and they are also pressured to be tough and suck it up. Men can still face double standards
it does have an effect though. throughout the earlier chapters he REALLY doesnt like being touched by anybody. its when he meets the band of the hawk that he starts to open up again@@avmrb42
@@erikvaldez4524That is definitely a troll fishing for reactions. That being said topic of "enjoying" rape is often used to gaslight victims because during intercourse it's impossible to not feel pleasure because this is a body automatic reaction.
I like Griffits because he wasnt shallow mustache culring villain. There is complicated human within. His story was fascinating to follow. What choices made him who he is? How will he progress? Today ignorant people just dismiss interesting characters based on one wrongdoing while ignoring story of a human.
I too hate people like those. "How can you enjoy him he is bad person." Like rly man? That's what makes him interesting and is pretty much point here. I'm tired of idea that all characters, antagonists and protagonists alike have to be relatable, have to be just misunderstood kittens or paragons of virtue. And if you make evil character he must be as unlikeable as possible and be so obvious. Because being able to write subtle characterization definitely isn't skill that authors should strive for.
@@mrszmatan2727 I feel that storytelling becomes more flat with time because authors are coming to realize that masses seek shallow entertainment. If you can produce trash that will generate revenue and won't be defamed by ignorant why strive for more? Just make feels good cartoon and you're good to go :(
@@verti3213 Yes that's true. There are mass produced shallow action movies and stories that just tell you, be good. Even if we assume that it's supposed to be moralizing story, they never dive into the topic, they always make it as shallow as possible to not anger even smallest part of potential audience, by saying something they deem controversial.
@@mrszmatan2727 You know what's funny? I keep away from whatever nonsense is fashionable currently in America and after many years of not seeing movies due being tired of sameness and due to nostalgia watched few recent Marvel ones and in every one there is female Mary Sue that don't feel human and overall movies have a lot more bells and whistles but storytelling Is super shallow. I stupidly went on Reddit to ask wtf is happening with Marvel since I loved superheroes as a teen. I got called out as a sexists who hates strong women 😂. Hello? Robots without personality are today "strong women"? Where are my childhoods favorite Ripley or Sarah Connor who had humanity in them? I checked things more deeply and it turns out that Hollywood have simply gotten smart. Current meta is to produce shallow trash and then excuse bad quality behind social problems and loud few will make any valid critique "controversial". As a kid I was so excited that internet in time will make authors explore in creativity and i will never be bored. Ohh how naive sweet summer child i was and instead aside of few exceptions everything is getting flat and boring because fiction authors copy each other and live in constant fear of unfair critique 😂
@@verti3213 that's true. About the internet also. There is a lot of good content, problem is that amount of bad content is much greater. Good stuff drowns in popular garbage, it's case for every type of media, of course every media also got exceptions which usually are classics and some few exceptions where actually good new work got popular.
okok here's the thing. Griffith is a huge piece of shit, everybody agrees. BUT... all villains are pieces of shit. The only reason people like other villaisn is because we are desensitized to murder and gore, whereas rape and sexual assault remain a rather taboo subject in main stream media. In real life, the top 2 crimes (besides large scale crimes like war crimes, crime against humanity, etc., you know what i mean) are typically murder and rape. Yet people treat rape like it's a thousand times worse, even though murder is just as, if not worse. Again, it's because you are all desensitized. What I'm trying to say is that you liking a mass-murder villain is no better.
@@theseven5359 really? you think the level of trauma that, for example Sasuke (from Naruto) had to go through seeing EVERYONE in his village murdered, and his parents killed right in front of his face, is somehow less traumatizing than getting raped? And ppl like Itachi nonetheless. What about Sukuna from JJK? He literally kills so many ppl and can you imagine the trauma he put so many ppl in? Ask any family or friends of murder victims if murder is a "one time thing" that ends with the death of the victim. Get outta here man.
@@VeryBratty No but living with trauma for the rest of your life while bringing sufering to the people that loved you because they cant stand to see you in that state is worse that getting killed
Griffith was always a controlling narcissist, but: Prior to Eclipse he was tortured for a year. The idea of Evil predestined him to be like that. Very few people are strugglers. AND CASKA ENJOYED IT AND HE DID NOTHING WRONG MUHEHEHEHE. Jk.
Why are you strawmanning by bringing most shallow arguments some assholes made only to defeat them "righteously"? Griffiths since the beginning was nothing but a puppet. In a way he is also a victim not only of the world but also of his own weakness that made him unable to resist his destiny. Caskas rape is merely one wrongdoing among many like maybe betraying all his friends and literally a family.
I mean there really isn't any real defense for Griffith. No shit he is a victim beyond belief, only someone delusional would deny that, but he is still at fault for all the crimes he has committed.
The capital was made on the souls of all the members of the band of hawks. Betrayal by your friend and comrade hurts more than a thousand blades. It releases a malaise in the world which even god finds difficult to cure.
To be fair, the grapy thing he did was his biggest oopsie, his sacrifice of all of his friends to pursue their dreams (not his alone anymore) was still pretty much sympathetic since that was what he'd done from the beginning. But that shit was purely out of spite and uncalled for, and there is no forgiving for that.
i think is crazy how Griffith is disliked just for that scene, like, who cares he killed the entire band, he roped Caska now thats the real shit. I think is hipocricy at it finest. Without the rape scene all Griffith haters would be like:" ah yeah, totally fine, understandable, yep there was no other way"
I think is because 1 he did not kill the band with his own hands and 2 Giving up the band to be killed by the demons was done for power and shit on the other the Caska shit he did just because he was being petty
@@theseven5359 kinda, I mean, he literally reborn as the reincarnation of evil. What the reincarnation of evil is supposed to do? You tell me If he ordered to the demons to rape Caska the concept would have been the same but he would't be hated for it? Isn't that as i said, hipocricy?
@@robfus It's because he's PETTY. People generally hated things closest to reality than absolute evil in fiction. Remember, the most hated antagonist in Harry Potter is not Voldemort who literally killed hundreds or maybe thousands, was a racist, killed the MC's parents, started a war, etc, etc. Not HIM but UMBRIDGE who is most hated simply because she was the closest one to fit into readers' reality of EVIL. Griffith betrayed and killed the entire band for power and whatsh1t, yeah that's evil. But the idea of killing close friends for power is too far away for readers/audience's reality so it didn't feel so painful. But when he chose to be PETTY r4p3 somebody just because he CAN? Now, that's a very close possibility of happening in real life, people COULD and DID do that heinous act irl often. TOO CLOSE to home. It multiplies our emotions when it's closer to home than when it is far away, which is why the reaction is more violent.
@@rachelciel3330 man, I get that the rpe is awful but I rarely see people actually condemning Griffith for the things he did after the Eclipse. Like he just unleashed monsters into the world and monopolized peace by creating his own kingdom, essentially dooming everyone to the threat of the supernatural.
He tricked skull knight into severing the barrier between worlds. Sure, falconia is a safe haven from all the monsters everywhere.. but they're only there because of Griffith to begin with.
He literally tried to assassinate Rickert and his Sister for Rickert speaking nothing but the truth. I also highly doubt the end goal of a bunch of eternal bdsm demon angels is a safe haven for humans so falconia is probably just a step towards their real goal (most likely a giant sacrifice ritual)
Yeah, noone gives a fuck about men. Wars, where thousands if not millions of men were slaughtered are bad, but there were few women 🍇-ed in that time too, you know!
Kinda late, but the way he betrayed his members and friends, killing them all in the process was unexcusable as well, he is a rotten person even if we took the SA thing out.
@@shulkonskyblockrwooosh3313 Its the most dehumanizing and gross thing you can do to someone, you rob their soul and the right to their body away. Theres a reason why you only make love with someone you love
Read the manga like a real fan would. The Netflix version is terrible compared to the source material. Not only is the Netflix version heavily censored it also leaves out many plot lines and is pretty far behind the manga.
@@billfred9411 "a real fan" would also probably know that there is no Netflix version, theres just a version that is currently on Netflix, which depending on your country isnt all anime there is of it
I like Griffith, up to and including the decision to sacrifice the band. He's such a good mix of positive and negative traits, decisions and influences. The eclipse really epitomizes that. He does sacrifice, but even with how much he stands to gain and what he's just gone through, he still needs additional convincing. After rebirth that's all gone, he's fully self centred and doesn't care about the harm caused at all. I hate Femto as much I liked Griffith.
I never liked Griffith, but Casca was wanting it the whole dang time. Guts was always just second fiddle in her mind, and she just settled with him once she realized Griffith was never going to be with her. I'm just keeping a spade a spade.
@@curious_puspin_cat Did I say that she liked it? No. I said that she was wanting to be with him the whole time. If you can't see that, you're delusional. Guts was always second fiddle to Griffith in Casca's mind. She literally settled with Guts because she knew she couldn't get with Griffith. I'm not saying that it won't give someone PTSD to be ravaged in the way she was, but I'm saying that she wanted to be with dude. It just wasn't in the way she originally wanted.
Atleast someone with a functional brain here.Casca never wanted guts at the first place , she always liked Griffith,but as Griffith gave no fuck , she had to settle down with guts .
Bro really betrayed his friend for a Batman suit 💀
without horns especially💀
Tbh Guts in Berserk Armour looks more like Batman.
That's not Batman, that's just.... Man.
@@foxxy4779 i'm man
-guts
yeah but also for that sick ass kingdom
The H in Berserk stand for happiness
The C in Berserk stands for Consent
the s in berserk stands for sexual assault
the M stands for Mentally Stable MC
@@stinkymonke3622M is for Monke™
The F in Berserk stands for freedom
The slap rickert gave to griffussy was the greatest thing to ever happen in this manga
nah the way Griffith treated casca in the eclipse was way better. enjoy every second of it
@@chosenone6702tf?
@@chosenone6702 nah wth
I shall give you the Casca treatment...
I totally 4got about that chapter it's been so long. Thanks for the refresher.
„Casca enjoyed it.“🤡🤓
"Casca enjoyed it"
"Guts deserved it"
"Griffith did nothing wrong"
"The band would have died for him anyways"
🤡 🤓
@@rocket2995never heard more true statements in my life
it hits like a bullet
fuck all of them@@rocket2995
Mannnn
for somebody as lovable with a good reputation as charlie youd think he wouldnt have a horrendously large amount of clips that can and will be horribly taken out of context
well he says it in such a sarcastic way it’s obvious he isn’t for real
that's why he said "out of context"@@zombtism24K
And? The point still stands. Even out of context this is too sarcastic to frame someone. @@citrosthoughts7
@@gi-go8575 o k
Some people would definitely miss
I am tired of Griffith and everything surrounding him, never hated a fictional character that much
fr bro fuск that guy.
same but that's a good thing,barely do i hate a villain,berserk did it so well
just accept urself bro)
@@redjones106 yeah bro, fuck him. He is bree- I mean he is evil 🥸
I wish I had that much free time to hate a fictional character
C in Rape stands for consent… still trying to find the C
Why search for it, *when you can take it?*
@@linkholder 💀💀💀💀
r stands for random
a stands for awesome
p stands for pretty
e stands for elite
@@mcrain1283 💀💀💀💀
You can add the letter c without the word's consent
Griffith lost a sister, his best friend, his ally in Casca, and his brother, friend, confidant in Guts. It's a waste, because there is no greater wealth than human connections. Now he has everything materially, but he is alone and empty despite being surrounded.
Well good for him :D ( don’t care what the f you’re going through, it ain’t no excuse to SA )
( not talking to you directly, just plp that defend his action against Casca )
I still believe tendon connections are mor valuable though.
The true loss@@mrorlov2706
Quite literally could have avoided all of this if he didnt try to get back at guts by sleeping with the princess, who he didn't love mind you. And even then guts still came back to save bro. Expelled himself from essentially the largest kingdom in existence as well, just to save Griffith.
He raped someone bro💀
griffith was and still is my favourite villian. he isnt justifiable but he is written extremely well.
You love to hate him. Plus having Zodd as your right hand does help à lot
What did he want to be king for? Just the glory? I never read and only watched the '97 anime
@@delgande TLDR:(he is a slave to his ambition). he wanted to rule to make his perfect empire due to him being a peasant he wants to rule. he is a slave to his ambition thats why he crashed out when guts beat him in a fight. he didn't assault casca because he wanted it was all to get back at gut because he knew guts loved casca and he hated that he was the person he couldnt truely control.
There are three fictional characters that I hate unconditionally Griffit from Berserk, Rachel from Tower of God and Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter lmao😂
You got it on point
But his chin issss pretty sharp, not gonna lie
It means that Griffiths as a villain is written well ;)
for me it’s sakura from naruto, gotta read berserk then will see how griffith is lookin like
@@ibrahim_-_-_ He definitely does invoke emotions but not only those of hate. Personally Griffiths is one of my favorite chars around. Not often you get to get interesting antagonist.
Griffith simps really post pictures of the Godhand’s human cattle ranch and expect us struggler enjoyers to agree with their nonsense.
Sir you wouldnt even survive the occultation ceremony long enough to be a struggler
Yes 🗿
It's just because all the "sTrUgGlErS" lose their sh%t when they don't get dino nuggies at the high-class restaurant, let alone know what it TRULY means to struggle and pull yourself out of living, breathing hell.
Y'all all call yourselves strugglers but you wouldn't last a day without doordash and instagram.
It's absolute cringelord sh%t.
Man fucked up the entire world so he could be king of a city you can cross in a day.
Struggle enjoyer🤓 Shut up dude XD It's a beautiful kingdom that Griffith has created
I feel like nobody talks about the realistically millions or atleast 100s of thousands fantasia probably killed because they’re too far away from falconia.
tru he prety much killed everybody on earth exept midland who has a chance to get rescued
nothing griffith did was good or positive for the world lol, not even falconia. all he did with falconia was make a single safe haven against all the monstrosities out there... which are also caused by griffith. he monopolized safety for the sake of having a kingdom.
@@xyoutheAnd on top of that Falconia can be a trap to fall more people in the Eclipse. He’s still part of the God Hand after all.
@@marvelouschester3018 yep, nothing about griffith is good, he hasnt done anything out of any goodwill. claiming griffith to have done nothing wrong is basically saying "i only paid attention when griffith looked good on the panel"
That’s exactly what Guts was talking about when he said Griffiths ambition will never end. In that last chapter before we see him turn into the Moonlight boy he’s literally saying how Fantasia basically created a blank slate for him to expand his empire and rule over the entire world.
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Ultimately Griffith will become another victim of Causality™
No matter how much good he might do as Femto, what he did in the past as Griffith will continue to haunt him for as long as the series continues and possibly undo everything.
fk Muira san left us when we needed him the most😥
@@laxminarayananks1520 I have faith in his successors! It's not over yet.
griffith didnt sexually assault casca femto did..?
@@chimkin7556 C'mon, They're the same guy.
@@pangolinreading2099 no.. no they are not.
Griffith in his last moments of humanity, begged guts and his band to stay back and simply allow him to kill himself.. when the behelit activated.. he tried to warn them but had no tongue and could not speak..
Femto is a husk, soulless creature, the shadow of Griffith.. all of his bluster, egoism and ambition with none of the redeeming qualities.
Frankly whole "Casca enjoyed 🍇" feels too much like a troll 😂
Check the comment replies those redditors are actually delusional
The actual real response is "Griffith was thinking about fucking Guts the whole time."
@@redline841I could see that being a thing
@@handlemoment Nah those mfs getting downvoted to oblivion by other Redditors
@@theseven5359
Because it's actual effort
He basically wanted to go to hell to get a batman suit
Griffith enjoyed it
Evil always enjoys the stupid things it does😊
@@dinamyrtilleSmart things*
@@sam-ht6qvYou're creepy and you chose to be a slave
@@sam-ht6qvI’m going to get you pregnant 🎀
I don’t think he enjoyed the act, he enjoyed that it hurt Guts because Griffith is a petty bitch.
Holy shit mangaka drew all of this by himself, props to him (and yeah ik what happened to him rip)
majority of it was Kentaro
big panels in particular
man had understudies
it's why the manga itself is continuing in his honor
as far as fitting his vision, they've really impressed me, and I'm glad they're not rushing the process
You know that everything and everywhere outside that city is literal hell, and he could simply stop it all, but he doesn't care and the fact that everything is burning, and he is the "savior" just serves to boost his ego because in the end it is his fault everything outside that city is hell, and he could simply not make it hell if he wished so.
That's what actual politics are. To be needed you must create problem that only you can solve, and do nothing to solve it.
"but you dont understand they ar two diffrent person"
Miura’s art is sooooo good man. I’m def gonna have to reread Berserk.
"Ah yes,another 🍇 scene,well done Muira sensei".
draw 7 more and you can have another Idol Master game
"Ah yes another rape scene 😋, well done Miura"
everybody gangstar until the sacrifice of all falconia
Charlie and Steven Universe: *Griffin says sorry, so it’s ok*
Yeah I don’t think sorry is going to cut it this time
@@laurengibbs6940Hey, it worked for the diamonds in Steven Universe (their crime was genocide) so, I think it should work for Griffith as well!
I think Griffith is a great litmus test for who you want and don't want in your life.
“Casca enjoyed it” CASCA WAS TRAUMATIZED AND HAS PTSD💀
Griffith fans definitely fans of NTR and Tentacles genre 😂😂😂
Ironic as Casca was trying to steal Guts from our favorite femboy Griffith
That's literally all manga authors
well that ain't ntr,that just rape n mureder xd
Oi! Us from the tentacle genre claim nothing of sorts. They arent with us! Even we have standards.
Ask the gore enjoyers, maybe they claim him.
@@kuruzsloorig278 what the 😂
will forever burn in hell inside my headcanon
Well he îs now living his best life. And it will stay like that for years to come.
Jesus is coming for Griffith.
And Satan is preparing for Deaths harvest..
i love this comment
SA/grape victims are forced to marry their abusers in the Bible.
Toki / Femto crossover showdown when? Man, a Fist of the North Star/Berserk crossover would be sick.
Jesus: "I did say I forgive everyone equally... *but this is too much for me to forgive* "
The Berserk Fandom in 2013: "Berserk is a allegorical tale of overcoming suffering and learning to find trust in the a world full of cruelty."
The Berserk Fandom in 2023: "cAsCa eNjOYed It"
I have a question, when I watched that sec I thought she was enjoying it because of how her face looked like and she sees past Griffith in that sec
But if so many people saying she didn't enjoy it , can you explain why ? (Don't be mad I watched bersek just yesterday and I just wanna know why yall say she didn't enjoy it)
@@I-hate-side-characters Nobody thinks she enjoyed it, not even you. It's a stupid thing to be obsessed over.
@@Magicwillnz then why some people saying she did ???
@@I-hate-side-characters Sexual insecurity? Who knows.
@@Magicwillnz okay , thanks for answering my comment, thank you ☺
I love how it’s “dislike” instead of “hate”
Griffith simp: casca is pregnant so it's not rape 💀
that was Guts child that had been corrupted by femto seed
Sounds more like IRL cult leaders
No, it's rape.
And Casca liked it.
YO THAT BEAT IS INSANELY GOOD WHAT THE HELL!!!
Excellent music choice.
You want a session with "The Idea of Evil"
Idk what’s more insane. The actual traumatic story or the fact that I found it mild.
Lol based
never met such true comment ever, i suffered more than guts
did u get cucked twice?@@LordTevleaf
@@LordTevleaf 💀
@@LordTevleaf my bro thinks Guts was able to watch memes too 💀
Props for linking the remix in the desc. 👊
I'm not sure why this got recommended to me. I don't even know what this manga is.
the greatest seinen manga of all time - Berserk
Read it, its a good story.
Two words Pure Misery
@@thehawk8332good story? Isn't the entire manga filled with R and CR and other garbage?
@@Yassin5643you mean attack on titan? Cuz yeah that îs edgy garbage
Guts fan be like: Pain is my only lover
He´s on that sigma male grindset.
Just remember, that EVERYTHING of that will end in the darkest age of humanity. And probably Guts will do something to make it too....
The rape:
The aftermath:
The reason:
The believe:
“Guts it was for the castle guts”
No matter how much I hate Casca, she didn't deserve that.
There is no reason to hate Casca
@@Stasy809 She was constantly bitching about Guts throughout the entire show. I don't hate her but I get why you would
@@astreusastresus198 she only bitched at guts when he was knew to the band, after awhile they became really good comrades and eventually even lovers. no reason to hate the queen Casca.
@@nxrth9463 Don't call her "the queen" weirdo. Also, my point still stands. People hate her for when she was like that. I don't think it's worth hating her for but some people do
Deserved
Gods hand:-What is your real wishe...
Griffith:- Stole happiness of the guts...😢
Griffif simps vs Donovan enjoyers.
Charlie is the walking meme
I had absolutely no idea where Kentaro Miura was actually going with the story ... I think he had no idea either
I think bro just enjoys the bullshit he makes, it reminds me of the meme "the writer's barely disguised fetish".
@@Yassin5643i thought the same too, granted he did have the writing skills to make it interesting but all these seems like he's putting all his degeneracy into a comic. Especially the amount of feminine little boys he put in there he probably needed therapy (or jail)
The whole world worships Griffith as he ushers in HIS paradise on Earth.
GUTS: “I’ll Keep Moving Forward Until I Destroy My Enemies”
"she enjoyed it"
worst argument i have ever seen, if your a giffith fan, you should be locked up in prison for your horrible ideals
Guts enjoyed watching
She enjoying "it"
Is that something people say?
Because I read the manga, I remember the r@pe scene (couldn't forget a single panel even if I wanted to) and there was 0 joy in that whole ordeal
@@Konpekikaminari It's ragebait, people say it intentionally cuz it pisses people off, not because they actually think casca enjoyed it. (she did enjoy it)
I believe there are actual people who think that Casca felt pleasure
And because she did she either subconsciously or even fully knowning liked it.
Or she liked it because it was Griffith. And she did have a crush
Never say never. There are people like that
Bro
💀
Reasons to like Griffith:
• he is (was) pretty
• he is powerful
• he is edgy as hell if you’re into that
Reasons to dislike Griffith:
• [sorry, it hit RUclips’s character limit]
real
he literally looks the same as he used to be.
Of course, strawmanning at its finest. Let's ignore whole character development of Griffiths and literal theme of the book which is struggle against overwhelming odds (and Griffiths story is what happens when one passively goes along the flow) and just reduce it to shallow points that can be "righteously" defeated
@@verti3213 bro.. its a joke 💀 Berserk is one of my favorite mangas, and I get the theme of the story. I love him as a character and plot device. I’m just saying he still did a lot of horrible shit to a lot of innocent people
@@kioiswaiting ahh I'm sorry then. I saw a lot of Twitter like ignorance and saw blood lmao. But yeah you're right about Griffiths victims. Frankly the most I felt bad for whole Hawk Band as he betrayed those who loved and trusted him. The rest are just nameless faces.
Griffith fan: Yes he did all thouse things but look he created Falconia an Utopy on Earth
Normal people: yeah? And what about... THE REST OF THE WORLD?!
Grifiit fans: we don't talk about that
Why are griffith fans a thing? My faith in humanity is gone.
Same people who fawn over serial killers 🙄
Im guessing theyre the same thing as johan fans.
You fail to realize that a large portion of people on earth are complete and utter psychopaths. Like I’m talking about normal seeming people, but on the inside of their extremely tiny cranium there’s a small piece of grey matter that wants nothing but death and misery for those around them. It’s pathetic
They're all mentally 15 years old and contrarian
Because it’s a fictional character? Because people are allowed to like fictional characters? People like Trevor (GTA, who’s an implied grapist), Eren (AoT), Ghost (COD) etc. doesn’t mean they support what they do in RL.
This my first time seeing the colored version of the manga and I just finished the arcs except the newer chapters since over 5yrs before the creator died! This looks beyond incredible! In memory of Kentaro Miura 🕊️🕯️
There are a LOT of things in the world that we wish would never happen, BUT that doesn't mean they have no place in a story or part of a narrative, AND because an author depicts something unpleasant in his/her tale, doesn't automatically follow s/he's in favour of it.
The point of the video is not about the actor,but the denfenders of the character that did such action
He sacrifice everything for dream empire... but Rome sacrifice nothing
I've watched that very scene from beginning to end as a kid on my grandparents (father's side) old tv. It didn't traumatize me for some reason. I was like "huh? What's that white haired person doing to the woman ?" And i always thought it was a woman.
Seriously, man. My childhood was weird. I keep seeing things i shouldn't be seeing, but saw them anyways.
You’ve witnessed so much horrible things that you’ve grown accustomed to seeing it. I know this, because I felt the same way. It was shocking, sure, but I’ve seen so much more worse things than a weird hentai scene. Gen Z, as a whole, are like this normally. Our access to the internet and the ability to see things that we shouldn’t have so easily and freely have corrupted and destroyed our innocent minds. But, it just means we matured faster than a lot of people our age back then.
Holy shit, the design of that kingdom.
A kingdom built on sin, is a kingdom destined to be annihilated. Not matter its glory or horrors.
America
lost children arc is a funny read.
Casca enjoyed it
With Guts
truth
@manwithnoplan2008 Ah finally, the correct goons arrived! Well the plan is to take out a guy with caption "good" on his cape
She enjoyed it with Griffith, at least in the moment she did at the peak of ecstasy.
And she definitely enjoyed it physically speaking.
And that doesn't make what happened right either.
I love Griffith but the sa of Casca was the one thing I didnt like about him.
@@anonymousanon6913 how the f did she enjoy it ?? She was in pain , miscarried her baby , he womb was torn up . No woman enjoys that holy 💩
@@Some_guy_passing_by Cope, she enjoyed it in the moment, even if she didn't want to and was traumatized by it.
Also women get off on pain.
Griffith makes me act up
actually a legit argument that Miura made, just look at his talk on the morality of Griffith
@@balmung7599 bruh
@@balmung7599 you musn't have been in the berserk fandom for long if you expect any sources
Could’ve made Griffith kill Casca, desecrate, then brought her back to live/left her dead. Or had Guts imagine it all. Why? he didn’t actually committed sa. People always argue on the morality/levels of wrong of desecration.
“He’s a bad guy,but at least he didn’t commit…” is a legit excuse I seen people use to justify other horrible characters.
anime fans realize you can like a character without excusing their actions challenge
If only Guts being Graped as a kid got as much attention as Casca. But it is bad only when it happens to women.
Honestly, its the author's fault, like ok guts gets raped as a kid, but his personality from then on is confident and strong, it doesen't feel like it had any effect on him growing up which is really fucking unrealistic.
While Casca gets raped and then has a full mental repression breakdown and become mentally ill and insane.
Its the falsehood perpetuated by media that guys can just suffer trough hell and ignore it while girls are fragile little flowers that get completely emotionally fucked from any trauma doesen't matter how tough they are they will never recover.
Honestly know a lot of people who got graped, and they react diferently to the experience, but some girls can definetly live on and even prosper dealing with the trauma tough they still have emotional scars and same thing for guys.
@@avmrb42 I see your point, but don't forget that Guts could not stand being touched by others. Also Guts had many years to process what happened.
I think it reflects how society reacts to men getting graped compared to women. Nobody bats an eye because it's rare for men to get assaulted. But just because it's rare, doesn't mean it never happens.
Because of this, men never get as much help and support, and they are also pressured to be tough and suck it up. Men can still face double standards
it does have an effect though. throughout the earlier chapters he REALLY doesnt like being touched by anybody. its when he meets the band of the hawk that he starts to open up again@@avmrb42
@@avmrb42.
Bless you for saying it out loud. I know a Griffith Kinnie who absolutely ruined the series for me.
"the villain was right" mfs when they find out about the gay white guy in berserk:
I will enjoy it, come daddy Griffith.
She didn't enjoy it... But I did
You're sick. Get help😘😍
@WillSilvasshe didn't enjoy that
@WillSilvas that's like saying that the killed person enjoyed being killed
@@erikvaldez4524That is definitely a troll fishing for reactions. That being said topic of "enjoying" rape is often used to gaslight victims because during intercourse it's impossible to not feel pleasure because this is a body automatic reaction.
@WillSilvas It is a violation, in
Seriously, you will defend that?
In a world of BatMans, be a SuperMan
I like Griffits because he wasnt shallow mustache culring villain. There is complicated human within. His story was fascinating to follow. What choices made him who he is? How will he progress?
Today ignorant people just dismiss interesting characters based on one wrongdoing while ignoring story of a human.
I too hate people like those. "How can you enjoy him he is bad person." Like rly man? That's what makes him interesting and is pretty much point here. I'm tired of idea that all characters, antagonists and protagonists alike have to be relatable, have to be just misunderstood kittens or paragons of virtue. And if you make evil character he must be as unlikeable as possible and be so obvious. Because being able to write subtle characterization definitely isn't skill that authors should strive for.
@@mrszmatan2727 I feel that storytelling becomes more flat with time because authors are coming to realize that masses seek shallow entertainment. If you can produce trash that will generate revenue and won't be defamed by ignorant why strive for more?
Just make feels good cartoon and you're good to go :(
@@verti3213 Yes that's true. There are mass produced shallow action movies and stories that just tell you, be good. Even if we assume that it's supposed to be moralizing story, they never dive into the topic, they always make it as shallow as possible to not anger even smallest part of potential audience, by saying something they deem controversial.
@@mrszmatan2727 You know what's funny? I keep away from whatever nonsense is fashionable currently in America and after many years of not seeing movies due being tired of sameness and due to nostalgia watched few recent Marvel ones and in every one there is female Mary Sue that don't feel human and overall movies have a lot more bells and whistles but storytelling Is super shallow. I stupidly went on Reddit to ask wtf is happening with Marvel since I loved superheroes as a teen. I got called out as a sexists who hates strong women 😂.
Hello? Robots without personality are today "strong women"? Where are my childhoods favorite Ripley or Sarah Connor who had humanity in them?
I checked things more deeply and it turns out that Hollywood have simply gotten smart. Current meta is to produce shallow trash and then excuse bad quality behind social problems and loud few will make any valid critique "controversial".
As a kid I was so excited that internet in time will make authors explore in creativity and i will never be bored. Ohh how naive sweet summer child i was and instead aside of few exceptions everything is getting flat and boring because fiction authors copy each other and live in constant fear of unfair critique 😂
@@verti3213 that's true. About the internet also. There is a lot of good content, problem is that amount of bad content is much greater. Good stuff drowns in popular garbage, it's case for every type of media, of course every media also got exceptions which usually are classics and some few exceptions where actually good new work got popular.
My honest reaction when me and bro are roasting each other and he says “At least I have a girlfriend!”
Griffith did everything right
For his dream, maybe
Based.
Cringe
Nah if he did everything right he would have not been tortured for how many years, forgot how long it was ,
Worst betrayal of the history
okok here's the thing. Griffith is a huge piece of shit, everybody agrees.
BUT...
all villains are pieces of shit. The only reason people like other villaisn is because we are desensitized to murder and gore, whereas rape and sexual assault remain a rather taboo subject in main stream media.
In real life, the top 2 crimes (besides large scale crimes like war crimes, crime against humanity, etc., you know what i mean) are typically murder and rape. Yet people treat rape like it's a thousand times worse, even though murder is just as, if not worse. Again, it's because you are all desensitized.
What I'm trying to say is that you liking a mass-murder villain is no better.
Rape is worse because the victim has to live with that for the rest of their life with murder its a one time thing that ends ot all for the victim
@@theseven5359 really? you think the level of trauma that, for example Sasuke (from Naruto) had to go through seeing EVERYONE in his village murdered, and his parents killed right in front of his face, is somehow less traumatizing than getting raped? And ppl like Itachi nonetheless.
What about Sukuna from JJK? He literally kills so many ppl and can you imagine the trauma he put so many ppl in?
Ask any family or friends of murder victims if murder is a "one time thing" that ends with the death of the victim.
Get outta here man.
@@jewii3824 Dont know why but all my responses get deleted so in case this one does not, just switch it around and youl see its worse
@@theseven5359 following your logic getting beat up is worse than getting murdered?? okay
@@VeryBratty No but living with trauma for the rest of your life while bringing sufering to the people that loved you because they cant stand to see you in that state is worse that getting killed
Lmao this as a meme format is wild but hilarious
Griffith was always a controlling narcissist, but:
Prior to Eclipse he was tortured for a year.
The idea of Evil predestined him to be like that. Very few people are strugglers.
AND CASKA ENJOYED IT AND HE DID NOTHING WRONG MUHEHEHEHE. Jk.
Why are you strawmanning by bringing most shallow arguments some assholes made only to defeat them "righteously"?
Griffiths since the beginning was nothing but a puppet. In a way he is also a victim not only of the world but also of his own weakness that made him unable to resist his destiny. Caskas rape is merely one wrongdoing among many like maybe betraying all his friends and literally a family.
Huh... so you didnt read my response at all.@@verti3213
I mean there really isn't any real defense for Griffith. No shit he is a victim beyond belief, only someone delusional would deny that, but he is still at fault for all the crimes he has committed.
@@verti3213but hin being imprisoned was his own fault to begin with
@@seniorsterling1064 Partially. His road from the beginning was orchestrated but in comparison to Guts he haven't resisted his destiny.
The capital was made on the souls of all the members of the band of hawks. Betrayal by your friend and comrade hurts more than a thousand blades. It releases a malaise in the world which even god finds difficult to cure.
Jesus
To be fair, the grapy thing he did was his biggest oopsie, his sacrifice of all of his friends to pursue their dreams (not his alone anymore) was still pretty much sympathetic since that was what he'd done from the beginning. But that shit was purely out of spite and uncalled for, and there is no forgiving for that.
Yes he didn't even like the girl. He liked the guy, and what he did was just reacting to rejection in the worst possible way.
i think is crazy how Griffith is disliked just for that scene, like, who cares he killed the entire band, he roped Caska now thats the real shit. I think is hipocricy at it finest. Without the rape scene all Griffith haters would be like:" ah yeah, totally fine, understandable, yep there was no other way"
I think is because
1 he did not kill the band with his own hands and
2 Giving up the band to be killed by the demons was done for power and shit on the other the Caska shit he did just because he was being petty
@@theseven5359 kinda, I mean, he literally reborn as the reincarnation of evil. What the reincarnation of evil is supposed to do? You tell me If he ordered to the demons to rape Caska the concept would have been the same but he would't be hated for it? Isn't that as i said, hipocricy?
@@robfus true but what makes this worse is tht he basically confirms he was petty here at the hill of swords
@@robfus It's because he's PETTY. People generally hated things closest to reality than absolute evil in fiction. Remember, the most hated antagonist in Harry Potter is not Voldemort who literally killed hundreds or maybe thousands, was a racist, killed the MC's parents, started a war, etc, etc. Not HIM but UMBRIDGE who is most hated simply because she was the closest one to fit into readers' reality of EVIL.
Griffith betrayed and killed the entire band for power and whatsh1t, yeah that's evil. But the idea of killing close friends for power is too far away for readers/audience's reality so it didn't feel so painful. But when he chose to be PETTY r4p3 somebody just because he CAN? Now, that's a very close possibility of happening in real life, people COULD and DID do that heinous act irl often. TOO CLOSE to home. It multiplies our emotions when it's closer to home than when it is far away, which is why the reaction is more violent.
@@rachelciel3330 man, I get that the rpe is awful but I rarely see people actually condemning Griffith for the things he did after the Eclipse. Like he just unleashed monsters into the world and monopolized peace by creating his own kingdom, essentially dooming everyone to the threat of the supernatural.
Griffith enjoyed the duke just as much
Griffith did nothing wrong
Suuuuuurrrrreeee. Degen .
Why can't we ever get a fully colored version of the Berserk manga????😭🖤
The thing is, and I hate myself for this, after the eclipse, Griffith hasn't done anything openly evil (correct me if I'm wrong)
He kidnapped Casca from Guts I find this a war crime.
He tricked skull knight into severing the barrier between worlds. Sure, falconia is a safe haven from all the monsters everywhere.. but they're only there because of Griffith to begin with.
he fucking invaded the lady witch's home and murdered her. also ended the island of elves.
@@redjones106 horny boi.. aside from your objectifying sexaul preference... there is not much
He literally tried to assassinate Rickert and his Sister for Rickert speaking nothing but the truth. I also highly doubt the end goal of a bunch of eternal bdsm demon angels is a safe haven for humans so falconia is probably just a step towards their real goal (most likely a giant sacrifice ritual)
The whole existence of falconia also implies that everywhere else In the world trolls dragons and giants are tearing their way through all of humanity
its cool how nobody gives a flying fuck about murders and tortures but SA always gets judged like its in real life
Yeah, noone gives a fuck about men. Wars, where thousands if not millions of men were slaughtered are bad, but there were few women 🍇-ed in that time too, you know!
Kinda late, but the way he betrayed his members and friends, killing them all in the process was unexcusable as well, he is a rotten person even if we took the SA thing out.
Because SA is like way fxking worse than all of them? Like id rather die oe be tortured
those are all sad stuff, though I do not understand why SA is worst@@StitchedUpPunkette
@@shulkonskyblockrwooosh3313 Its the most dehumanizing and gross thing you can do to someone, you rob their soul and the right to their body away. Theres a reason why you only make love with someone you love
all of that for a batman suit....
Imagine betraying your friends just for a low qualit gay batman costume
How do I watch more berserk ep if I finished the Netflix one
Read the manga like a real fan would. The Netflix version is terrible compared to the source material. Not only is the Netflix version heavily censored it also leaves out many plot lines and is pretty far behind the manga.
@@billfred9411 Gatekeeping i see
@@billfred9411 "a real fan" would also probably know that there is no Netflix version, theres just a version that is currently on Netflix, which depending on your country isnt all anime there is of it
Adam: Jeez, fuck, man, jus-just chill...
Common Griffith W.
I can’t wait to get you pregnant❤️
Berserk fans 🤝 Invincible fans
defending r🦍
I heard Miura said she enjoyed it...💀
no source
I like Griffith, up to and including the decision to sacrifice the band. He's such a good mix of positive and negative traits, decisions and influences. The eclipse really epitomizes that. He does sacrifice, but even with how much he stands to gain and what he's just gone through, he still needs additional convincing. After rebirth that's all gone, he's fully self centred and doesn't care about the harm caused at all. I hate Femto as much I liked Griffith.
he literally didn't do anything good
I never liked Griffith, but Casca was wanting it the whole dang time. Guts was always just second fiddle in her mind, and she just settled with him once she realized Griffith was never going to be with her. I'm just keeping a spade a spade.
how the hell she like it when she literally went insane after it? Shes so traumatize she went crazy and give birth to a deform baby...
@@curious_puspin_cat Did I say that she liked it? No. I said that she was wanting to be with him the whole time. If you can't see that, you're delusional. Guts was always second fiddle to Griffith in Casca's mind. She literally settled with Guts because she knew she couldn't get with Griffith. I'm not saying that it won't give someone PTSD to be ravaged in the way she was, but I'm saying that she wanted to be with dude. It just wasn't in the way she originally wanted.
your wording here looks terrible dude XD
@@phoenixDARKprince you're just making stuff up😂
Atleast someone with a functional brain here.Casca never wanted guts at the first place , she always liked Griffith,but as Griffith gave no fuck , she had to settle down with guts .
Underrated opinion: "Griffith enjoyed it"
He truly is, Clean Mario
"R" is only good in fantasy settings
It's never good
Rape is never good. I don't know where you got the "rape is good under specific circumstances" idea from but no. It is not.
@@astreusastresus198porn is where he got it from
@@astreusastresus198 i mean bruh its a joke and if its in a fantasy setting it aint real no one was actually hurt.
@@nxrth9463 "Not any real people getting hurt" doesn't mean "good"
Wait a minute, bro has a good point.
That scene was pretty hot ngl. Only problem was that it wasn't kinky enough.