How the people at the time did not recognize this as great music befuddles me, but thanks to Clara Schumann, Robert's wife, it lived on and now almost 200 years later we can enjoy it. Thank you Clara and you too Robert.
I’m glad to hear someone else say that! I’m embarrassed to admit I’never taken seriously the sterling fellows after Beethoven and before Brahms. Big mistake-Schubert, Mendelssohn, Chopin and dear Schumann were heroes silenced too soon; if only each genius had but five more years of life, what richer lives everyone in their future would have in turn.
@@prototropo Mozart, Schubert, Schumann, and Chopin died too early. Nevertheless, their amazing legacy enriches our lives. Also, thanks to good RUclipsrs like you. The beautiful music playing video gives me a lot of comfort. Thank you.
Wir sind das Land mit den meisten und nach wie vor besten Orchestern weltweit, da haben wir mal etwas, auf das wir echt stolz sein dürfen. Lasst uns dieses Kulturgut bewahren. Und danke an alle die wunderbaren Musiker, die ihr Leben der Musik widmen. Hut ab!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but it's too fast for me. Try Wolfgang Sawallisch and the Dresden Staatskapelle on CD for a different "definitive" performance.
Perhaps one of the most romantic and practical opening in any symphony I've heard ever. It starts off somber and tense then springs into moderate yet progressive flurries of joyous ode, fire and freshness of modulations. Schumann etched his strong abilities as a symphonist in this the 2nd.
The 3rd mvmt had to have come from the depths of the Master's heart. Effective and deeply affecting. I adore this orchestra. They have a little something extra. Bravissimi a tutti.
What a super orchestra this is. This is the best performance of this that I have ever heard. Janowski, well he clearly likes his Schumann. And what a marvellous symphony this is.
Note Marek Janowski's modest gesturing: it all serves the music, rather than showmanship. The first thing he does when the audience is applauding is clearly mouth 'Danke schön' to the orchestra. Great guy.
My favourite Schumann symphony. Although all four are wonderful, the Second is to my mind the most unified. I've never been a great fan of slow movements and sometimes skip over them but the Adagio is superb. Another fine performance by the Frankfurt orchestra.
This is funny but when I see a conductor wearing white tie, I know I'll enjoy the performance. Not too fast or overly flamboyant. This was gorgeous. Thank you.
This is my favorite of the four symphonies of Schumann. I would have to say however, that for me, the definitive performance is the Cleveland Orchestra with George Szell. The second movement in the Szell recording is machine precision and the tempo quite brisk. I thoroughly enjoyed this though; a great way to start the morning... thank you Frankfurt!!
I've seen Maestro Janowski conduct Brahms and Beethoven (2nd and 4th of both) from memory. Live performances with audience in Warsaw 2021 and 2022. Unforgettable.
This outstanding orchestra has two Concertini, but also has two principal for every group of instruments; and the excellency: all of them are in same way wonderful soloists. Hence it's impossible not to be an OUTSTANDING ORCHESTRA. His present dirigent is Andrés Orozco-Estrada, the Viena Miracle.
I’m performing this next month and I must confess that I’m not the biggest Schumann fam, but this performance is compelling. The tempo in the second mvt was a little fast for my taste, but Schumann is open to a wide path when it comes to interpretation.
Io sono diplomato in orchestra dal 2008. L'unico requisito d'accesso, a quei tempi (vecchio ordinamento) era il Compimento Medio (VII anno) di Composizione conseguito. Naturalmente sono diplomato anche in Composizione, terzo dei miei sei diplomi (Direzione fu il quarto).
great performance, superbly controlled and driven. especially the difficult 1st movement. But poorly edited as conductor can't be seen at crucial moments. Better to listen.........
from 35:50 ant te coda generally was insanely fast...way too fast. This finale is majestic, sublime. At 36:13 simply became a tango. It is not correctly interpreted.
Indeed, after an inspired performance of a symphonic masterwork, I make it a point to turn to my companion, full of satisfaction and joie de vivre, and declare, "Ahhhh yes- that was so........correct."
Ich bin ja auch eher ein Freund der zügigen Tempi, so wie sie zu Schumann's Zeiten üblich waren. Aber gegen Ende des Finales mag ich es etwas getragener. Und die Coda des Scherzos sollte für mein Empfinden schneller als der Rest sein. Das ist mir hier zu uhrwerksmäßig runtergespielt. So wie hier: ruclips.net/video/L2eGkxHaGu0/видео.htmlm44s Da ich hier schon auf Bernstein verweise... seine 2. Schumann ist für mich die beste Aufnahme die jemals gemacht wurde.
You must check out Szell's version, ruclips.net/video/dS65-ZvUSSM/видео.html. Miraculously remastered, it sounds as if it had been recorded last year, with unsurpassed tension and dynamics.
Nice performance, but one of too many conductors who take the THE END bars to the symphony too fast. That just negates the magnificent timpani playing, in arguably the best symphonic bang ending when done right. Bernstein for one gets it... he takes over 15 seconds to end the work at the point where the present performance takes only about 9.
Yes, I agree that the conductor takes liberties by introducing an accelerando that is not in the score. As objectionable as it may be, I found it preferable to the ponderous Bernstein ending. Does Bernstein think that slow equals important or majestic? He does this again with the final variation from Elgar's Enigma Variations. Where just about every other conductor is driving the music to its logical conclusion, Bernstein turns the ending into a funeral dirge. Here is Bernstein conducting the final Enigma variation: ruclips.net/video/JD4KtV4WcBI/видео.html and here is Edward Elgar (or Eddie Elgar as Bernstein, thinking he was on intimate terms with that composer, called him) conducting his own complete Enigma Variations: ruclips.net/video/kaPtKoL-FsM/видео.html
@@ronaldaaronson Any conductor who does the opposite of Bernstein usually gets it right! I loathe Berstein's conducting in anything except Mahler. His Schumann 2 is a grim experience and his Enigma is an abomination. Even Lady Elgar didn't call her husband "Eddie" - what presumption! Having said that I think Janowski does play this too fast, certainly compared to the lovely CD performance by Wolfgang Sawallisch and the Dresden Staatskapelle which has been my favourite for about 40 years.
Maybe not so surprising. Schumann and Wagner new each other and Wagner sometimes sent his scores to Schumann for comment. Robert and Clara Schumann both adored Bach and would study his music together and Schumann was influential in the revival of Bach's music in the 19th century.
Ah! Schumann’s masterpiece! But Janowski’s performance is lamentably dry, lifeless, and rather mechanical. Schumann’s symphonies actually need a lot of help from a great conductor; help that’s sorely lacking here!
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How the people at the time did not recognize this as great music befuddles me, but thanks to Clara Schumann, Robert's wife, it lived on and now almost 200 years later we can enjoy it. Thank you Clara and you too Robert.
As I get older, Schumann's music gets better. This is a very good performance.
I’m glad to hear someone else say that! I’m embarrassed to admit I’never taken seriously the sterling fellows after Beethoven and before Brahms. Big mistake-Schubert, Mendelssohn, Chopin and dear Schumann were heroes silenced too soon; if only each genius had but five more years of life, what richer lives everyone in their future would have in turn.
@@prototropo Mozart, Schubert, Schumann, and Chopin died too early.
Nevertheless, their amazing legacy enriches our lives.
Also, thanks to good RUclipsrs like you. The beautiful music playing video gives me a lot of comfort.
Thank you.
Schumann has always been my favorite. If I had to guess, from the age of 16 on. Although Bach will forever be the genius no one will every reach.
@@perryschnabel Bach is better, but Mozart and Beethoven are more genius...
@@GuilhermeMichel to me, bach is the master and god of music. No one can be better than him, especially if we're talking about counterpoints.
Wir sind das Land mit den meisten und nach wie vor besten Orchestern weltweit, da haben wir mal etwas, auf das wir echt stolz sein dürfen. Lasst uns dieses Kulturgut bewahren. Und danke an alle die wunderbaren Musiker, die ihr Leben der Musik widmen. Hut ab!
Dito!
Chapeau bas! Still, a little too corect, too perfect, this interpretation ?!
The most optimistic and majestic first movements in a symphony I've ever heard
For me this is the definitive performance of this underappreciated symphony. This orchestra is a musical treasure chest.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but it's too fast for me. Try Wolfgang Sawallisch and the Dresden Staatskapelle on CD for a different "definitive" performance.
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What a great musical joy, those beautiful and magnificents recordings of the hr-Sinfonieorchester. Many, many thanks.
Perhaps one of the most romantic and practical opening in any symphony I've heard ever. It starts off somber and tense then springs into moderate yet progressive flurries of joyous ode, fire and freshness of modulations. Schumann etched his strong abilities as a symphonist in this the 2nd.
My favorite of Schumann's 4 symphonies. Fantastic finale.
I completely agree ...but this performance sounds quite "lazy" to my ears.
@@triplebeargames maybe your ears are fulll of shit, maybe..
Sostenuto assai - Allegro ma non troppo 00:03
Scherzo. Allegro vivace 12:13
Adagio espressivo 19:18
Allegro molto vivace 28:40
That adagio always tears my heart out.
Agreed. It is like an old, forgotten german lore.
Wonderfull Conductor Janowski, Wonderfull Symphonic Orchestra, congratulations !!!
The 3rd mvmt had to have come from the depths of the Master's heart. Effective and deeply affecting. I adore this orchestra. They have a little something extra. Bravissimi a tutti.
C'est l'image de sa folie qu'il nous présente...et la douleur associée...
Bravo! Schumann, one of the Romantic Era's Titans. 🎶🎵
What a super orchestra this is. This is the best performance of this that I have ever heard. Janowski, well he clearly likes his Schumann. And what a marvellous symphony this is.
Note Marek Janowski's modest gesturing: it all serves the music, rather than showmanship. The first thing he does when the audience is applauding is clearly mouth 'Danke schön' to the orchestra. Great guy.
My favourite Schumann symphony. Although all four are wonderful, the Second is to my mind the most unified. I've never been a great fan of slow movements and sometimes skip over them but the Adagio is superb. Another fine performance by the Frankfurt orchestra.
Interesting. They're always my favorite.
The adagio to this one is so brilliant.. its like the first glimpse of the sort of music Brucker would later go on to write..
I love this adagio. The wide intervals in the theme are so evocative. Did you notice the theme is inverted in the last movement?
Fine performance and a superb hall - Janowski is yet another underrated maestro among so many overrated ones
in general this symphony is sooo exquisitely scored, but the first horn part is really to die for, and Marc Gruber does a fantastic job.
Excelente interpretación. Gracias HR por este magnífico concierto.
Der geniale Dirigent leitet das ganze Orchester mit perfekter Dynamik und angenehmer Agogik. Einfach wunderbar!
My favorite symphony
What an amazing performance of this masterpiece!!! One of the best recordings, of this, that I've ever heard, Bravo Tutti!
Not one standing ovation? This symphony is not easy to play! The Scherzo was awesome.
Impressive performance! I am just a kid but need to play this for orchestra… wish I could play as good as you!
It's nice hearing an orchestra that plays in time as well as playing in tune. There aren't many that do. Well done !
シューマンは交響曲作家としては、あまり評価されていないように思える。
しかし、この２番のように素晴らしい作品があるし、ブラームスを感激させたマンフレッドもある。
私は、実際にシューマンがクララと共にブラームスを支持したことからも、正に交響曲に於いても、ベートーヴェンとブラームスの橋渡しをしたと評価しています。
この２番こそ、楽章ごとの構成、配置が絶妙な素晴らしい作品だと思います。
そして、第１楽章のモチーフを見事に昇華させた、第４楽章は華やかなフィナーレを迎えます。長いコーダは、あらゆる交響曲の中でも、屈指のカッコ良さだと私は思っています。
Merecida ovación. Janowski está entre los grandes. Gran mérito el rescatar una obra poco difundida del sublime Schumann.
A true Masterpiece from a true genius Schumann 💝🌷
Спасибо большое за запись, чудесно.
This is funny but when I see a conductor wearing white tie, I know I'll enjoy the performance. Not too fast or overly flamboyant. This was gorgeous. Thank you.
Excellent interpretation of a wrongly underrated masterpiece !
Thanks for sharing it !
This is my favorite of the four symphonies of Schumann. I would have to say however, that for me, the definitive performance is the Cleveland Orchestra with George Szell. The second movement in the Szell recording is machine precision and the tempo quite brisk. I thoroughly enjoyed this though; a great way to start the morning... thank you Frankfurt!!
I've seen Maestro Janowski conduct Brahms and Beethoven (2nd and 4th of both) from memory. Live performances with audience in Warsaw 2021 and 2022. Unforgettable.
0:07 begins | 3:46 | 5:01 | 9:34 | 11:50 ending | 12:27 2nd movement | 12:55 | 13:25 | 15:46 | 18:04 | 19:47 3rd movement | 22:56 string transition | 25:49 eerie | 26:39 string transition | 28:55 4th movement | 32:30 | 34:04 | 35:50 |
Eine glänzende Aufführung! Janowskis Präzision ist bewundernswert.
Las cuatro sinfonías de Schumann son estupendas
La mejor música estimulante y bella .....
Meravigliosa sinfonia... Good rendition. Thank you very much
Wunderbare Musik, tolle Interpretation.
Estupenda interpretación del maestro Janowsky al frente de esta afamada agrupación orquestal.
Un director notable para una orquesta excepcional en la interpretación de la más dramática sinfonía de Schumann.
Obrigado amigos e amigas musicistas!
And the second movement rushes in like a constant uneven gust of robust wind. Yes Schumann indeed is the ' poet '
I think Beethoven would have been pleased with this composition!
Wonderful. But I have grown to expect wonderful every time this orchestra performs.
Very nice performance!!!!!
Чудесный оркестр! Великолепный концерт!
Thank you HR sinfonie for one more brilliant concerto. Big fan from Brazil!
version sobria y maravillosa
This outstanding orchestra has two Concertini, but also has two principal for every group of instruments; and the excellency: all of them are in same way wonderful soloists. Hence it's impossible not to be an OUTSTANDING ORCHESTRA. His present dirigent is Andrés Orozco-Estrada, the Viena Miracle.
just the sounds of the instruments are exquisite.
Very good.
슈만의 독창적이고 번뜩이는 아이디어들
수많은 반복구의 기계적인 오름과 내림의 연속
앞으로 다가올 산업혁명에 대한 예찬
다시오라 옛 신성로마제국이여!
Le Hr-Sinf au sommet comme très souvent .
I’m performing this next month and I must confess that I’m not the biggest Schumann fam, but this performance is compelling. The tempo in the second mvt was a little fast for my taste, but Schumann is open to a wide path when it comes to interpretation.
O adágio espressivo sempre me faz chorar
Espetacular!
Great blending
日本では演奏機会が少ない曲だが、構成やモチーフが分かり易く、旋律も親しみ易いと思う。
最終楽章のフィナーレは、ややしつこく長いがとてもカッコ良いので、大好き。
あのブラームスがマンフレッドに感激したそうなので、交響曲作曲家として、ベートーヴェンとブラームスを繋ぐ存在としてシューマンの果した役割は大きかったのではないか。
演奏は、コンパクトで躍動感のあるPヤルヴィのカンマーフィル盤が一押したが、この演奏もオーソドックスで聴き易い。
Meravigliosa!
JA TO NAPÍŠEM PO SLOVENSKY - FANTÁZIA 👍
Fantastic
Scherzo 12:26
[mvt.2 mm. 1-54] 12:25 - 13:24
III Movement: Adagio: 23:56. J.S.Bach: " Hey Rob, how r u ? Some nice lines you have there :)
Great.
Antequera 🚴🍃🌄.
Per la direzione d'orchestra in Italia serve un diploma di strumento musicale ,diploma di composizione,2 anni di direzione d'orchestra.
Io sono diplomato in orchestra dal 2008. L'unico requisito d'accesso, a quei tempi (vecchio ordinamento) era il Compimento Medio (VII anno) di Composizione conseguito. Naturalmente sono diplomato anche in Composizione, terzo dei miei sei diplomi (Direzione fu il quarto).
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18:42
19:11 Korean public advertisement(공익광고협의회) background music
great performance, superbly controlled and driven. especially the difficult 1st movement. But poorly edited as conductor can't be seen at crucial moments. Better to listen.........
from 35:50 ant te coda generally was insanely fast...way too fast. This finale is majestic, sublime. At 36:13 simply became a tango. It is not correctly interpreted.
Indeed, after an inspired performance of a symphonic masterwork, I make it a point to turn to my companion, full of satisfaction and joie de vivre, and declare, "Ahhhh yes- that was so........correct."
Aron Ollerer He was also Floristan !!!
👏👏👏
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28:55 Mendelson?
The final is quite a bit too fast
it's called exuberance
Ich bin ja auch eher ein Freund der zügigen Tempi, so wie sie zu Schumann's Zeiten üblich waren. Aber gegen Ende des Finales mag ich es etwas getragener. Und die Coda des Scherzos sollte für mein Empfinden schneller als der Rest sein. Das ist mir hier zu uhrwerksmäßig runtergespielt. So wie hier: ruclips.net/video/L2eGkxHaGu0/видео.htmlm44s
Da ich hier schon auf Bernstein verweise... seine 2. Schumann ist für mich die beste Aufnahme die jemals gemacht wurde.
Ja, Ende des Finales leider gehetzt und kraftlos. Trotzdem ein superbes Orchester und ein bemerkenswerter Dirigent!
You must check out Szell's version, ruclips.net/video/dS65-ZvUSSM/видео.html. Miraculously remastered, it sounds as if it had been recorded last year, with unsurpassed tension and dynamics.
Quotenwagnerianer Furtwangler
19:12초에 공익광고협의회 징글이다.
ROTARY. VALVE.
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18:41
Nice performance, but one of too many conductors who take the THE END bars to the symphony too fast. That just negates the magnificent timpani playing, in arguably the best symphonic bang ending when done right. Bernstein for one gets it... he takes over 15 seconds to end the work at the point where the present performance takes only about 9.
Yes, I agree that the conductor takes liberties by introducing an accelerando that is not in the score. As objectionable as it may be, I found it preferable to the ponderous Bernstein ending. Does Bernstein think that slow equals important or majestic? He does this again with the final variation from Elgar's Enigma Variations. Where just about every other conductor is driving the music to its logical conclusion, Bernstein turns the ending into a funeral dirge. Here is Bernstein conducting the final Enigma variation: ruclips.net/video/JD4KtV4WcBI/видео.html and here is Edward Elgar (or Eddie Elgar as Bernstein, thinking he was on intimate terms with that composer, called him) conducting his own complete Enigma Variations: ruclips.net/video/kaPtKoL-FsM/видео.html
@@ronaldaaronson Any conductor who does the opposite of Bernstein usually gets it right! I loathe Berstein's conducting in anything except Mahler. His Schumann 2 is a grim experience and his Enigma is an abomination. Even Lady Elgar didn't call her husband "Eddie" - what presumption! Having said that I think Janowski does play this too fast, certainly compared to the lovely CD performance by Wolfgang Sawallisch and the Dresden Staatskapelle which has been my favourite for about 40 years.
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22:38
フィナーレはもう少し遅いテンポで味わいたかったかな。
sounds like a fusion of wagner and bach
Maybe not so surprising. Schumann and Wagner new each other and Wagner sometimes sent his scores to Schumann for comment. Robert and Clara Schumann both adored Bach and would study his music together and Schumann was influential in the revival of Bach's music in the 19th century.
Schumann is influenced by Beethoven and Mozart more than by anyone else
🇹🇷😍🤗💖💖💖💖💖🤗
I think the final movement, my favourite, is too rushed and lacks "gravitas".
SA C'EST ENCORE LA MUSIQUE A JHONNY
OUAI GRAVE Y ARRETE PAS DE LUI VOLER
A good performance of Schumann 2nd symphony never a great fan of Janowski,my eye drawn to beautiful clarinet player
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35:05 Wagner in C scherzo
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15:28
12:20
The second movement is (in my opinion) the best aspect of this great symphony!
19:11 공익광고협의회
chancletas acuario =
0.75 speed is closer to the truth. Stupidly fast.
conductor looks like barenboim
True but at least he can conduct unlike Barenboim
Lousy
やっぱり、コーダが速すぎるかな。
Ah! Schumann’s masterpiece! But Janowski’s performance is lamentably dry, lifeless, and rather mechanical. Schumann’s symphonies actually need a lot of help from a great conductor; help that’s sorely lacking here!