The last race for Alesi with Prost The last points for Alesi with Prost The last points for Prost The last race for Prost on Hockenheim The last race for everybody on old Hockenheim
@@zinddyi believe he was offered the Seat to replace Schumi after his accident in '99. And he should have taken that seat. Even if It was for just 4 or 5 races. It was a no brainer. I think that would be a hell of an story , and a way of really putting him on the light spot again, and probably extending his career until 2003 or 2004.
not really , it was quite boring track . In our reality iw would be pretty hard to overtakes in that chikanes, bcs they not slow enough on entry and very narrow (smth what we gonna see next year in Netherlands(god helps drivers to make 1 overtake)). All stadium sector bcs of fast entry was also not good for overtakes. So, yeah , it was very historic and charismatic track(for sure), but lacking overtakes and it will be lacking more in modern regulations. Even Monza with same speed-aproach can give u more opportunity to overtake.(bcs of hard and slow chicanes)
This was always my favourite circuit on the calendar when I first got into F1 in the early 90s and it's really sad to see the state that the old forest section is in today. Always breaks my heart when you watch today's cars reach turn 2 and you see the gap in the trees straight ahead where the track used to go. It's just a shame they couldn't have kept the old layout intact for future use. It would have been fabulous to see some of the modern cars of today attempt the Ostkurve.
i watch today's german grand prix and was so sad at what tilke and fia did to the great hockenheim track........i watched this video to remind me of a once great track
At least keep it until 2005 when V10 cars are at the most powerful (but without the stupid tyre rule). Wish we can see F2004s and MP4-20s racing in this iconic layout.
Should never have got rid of the forest. What a major fuck up that was. Hockenheim had an identity. Now it's just another generic circuit, could be anywhere. It's like many new football stadiums...same generic bowl design. When you saw the forest you knew exactly you were in Hockenheim..when you see the Kop you know you are at Anfield. To lose an iconic aspect of a circuit is a huge mistake.
Losing the iconic long straights, is essentially what made Hockenheim broke. They lost their legendary status, thinking it was the motodrom, when in fact, it was the straights. In addition to that, the investment for the new section never returned. Hockenheim can't afford to host F1 anymore and really only hosts small racing categories today. DTM is the biggest event there now, and they struggle with viewership as well.
Hockenheimring is one of the few race track which has been slowly and constantly depraved in the history. In 1932, when they opened the track it was 12km long. It used to have 3 fucking long straights, damn fast kinks, and some slow corners. At the late 30's they shortened it to 2 very long straights, and they built the long-long Ostkurve. At the 60's they built the arena section with a new finish straight. The 2 very long backstraights became around 500 meters shorter. In 1970 they added 2 chicanes at the middle of each backstraights, which was quite annoying. In 1982 they added another chicane in front of the fast and entertaining Ostkurve. At the early 90's the 3 chicanes became much slower. And finally everyone knows what happened in 2002. Almost the same happened to Assen and Masaryk circuit.
Padek Sewenejt Aha, so I'm the only guy who think F1 needs really different tracks. 95% of today's tracks are mostly torteous with slow corners, with 1 or 1.2 km long straights. This is what I call boring. Today the 12 km Hockenheim would be a great challenge for the engineers to set up the engine and it still would have some fast but non-flatout corners. And you can imagine great slipstreaming battles with some finishes similar to IndyCar finishes. We have 18, sometimes 20 races in a year with 18 or 20 tracks. The opportunities are really wide, but we don't seize with them.
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So long it's not a Tilke track it's good but he's mangled this old fine circuit too and is the builder of so many new soulless F1 tracks in the arab states and many more worldwide.
not really , it was quite boring track . In our reality iw would be pretty hard to overtakes in that chikanes, bcs they not slow enough on entry and very narrow (smth what we gonna see next year in Netherlands(god helps drivers to make 1 overtake)). All stadium sector bcs of fast entry was also not good for overtakes. So, yeah , it was very historic and charismatic track(for sure), but lacking overtakes and it will be lacking more in modern regulations. Even Monza with same speed-aproach can give u more opportunity to overtake.(bcs of hard and slow chicanes)
@tera90s Electro-hydraulic gearbox with paddle actuation. The upshift and downshift levers are located behind the steering wheel in proximity to the driver's index and middle fingers.
Legendary driver! Used to play GP2 on windows and it would always default to Alesi and I followed him ever since. Unfortunately I was too young to see his only win
I think that the new track is a good race track, but in contrast with the old layout it's just boring. The old track was unique, a track that was just once on the globe. I think: If the old track would be there in the Hockenheim forest and also the new layout exist, their would be lots of opportunities: the new track for touring cars and GT's and the old track for F1 and Endurance races (WEC in Hockenheim (Endurance Layout) --> sounds good ;D ) but that's just a dream...
Thanks to the gouvernment there is no old track! Two points were: permission to build the new track and get money from the state: only if the old track would be removed with a following reafforestation of the parts. Anyways, the owners of the track were a bunch of old money grubbing farts. There was never ever a reason to build the new track, even Ecclestone said that.
@vprmn Not on a rocker mount. You can push or pull from either side of the wheel to get an upshift or downshift. McLaren now uses a similar system with a split lever on a rocker mount. The upper lever does the usual right/upshift, and left/downshift business. Under it is another rocker lever that does the opposite so the driver can work through the gears with the index and middle finger on one hand with other free to adjust things or use the clutch paddles.
I really miss this track and I even don't live far from it. The sound is also very gorgeous, too, looking forward for the sound machine, ha. It is still my favourite track in F1 2001 and rFactor, the last really highspeed track together with Spa, Monza and Mexico now (no Peralta :'|). Thank God I was too young back then, to remember something about the old track, I would probably miss it more.
+L.S. Moto Ich hab nicht gesagt dass ich nicht in der Nähe wohne, nur will ich die Strecke einfach nicht in ihrem jetzigem Zustand also ein haufen Gras und sonst nichts, nicht sehen.
+James G Hey, mate, nice to see you around here :P All my hopes for F1 are lasted for 2017. I'm really excited, how they want to keep this sport out of ruin. Maybe it's gonna to be good again, Idk. For the tracks, well if Mateschitz will really rebuild the connection to the old Österreichring, I'll never be against Red Bull again, I swear it, never. This may be a dream, but hopefully he'll buy the Hockenheimring, too. This track is making loss since it was rebuilt. Maybe Mateschitz will have a heart, it worked with the A1-Ring (RBRing), it will work with the Hock. "Entertainment". I love to hate this word. The problem about this, is that some fans hate processions, thought they could be more intersting than some overtakes with plastic support. But I've met "fans" who hate the old Hockenheimring, Monza, some even Spa, Monaco and processions. No wonder this sports is slowly dying. The battle Räi vs. Ves (Spain, Hungary) was one the most entertainig battles this year, but no. "We hate processions". Sometimes the F1 community is something to be ashamed for, but than when I'm sick of it, I watch races from the late 90s or 2006 - 2010, when this sport was still good, and FFS noone complained.
@vprmn it was an extreme challenge for drivers. combination of high speed straights that required very low downforce setup and the slow, technical stadium section made it a unique challenge the drivers loved. nowadays hockenheim is just your average tilkedrome, with no unique features. sad
@Kabaampje444 The Prost team's wheel used a rocker system with the levers mounted on a central pivot. The driver could pull back on the right lever or push forward on the left lever to upshift.
Look at the steering wheel - this car is so wobbly. I'd never even try to take it on a few laps, while Alesi was racing in it. And even scored some points!
Good old Alesi !!! Even when he was having to put up with poor machinery. He would still drive it to the max, even if it meant not scoring point !!! Plus i really miss the old classic Hockenheim-Ring layout, it had so much character. The current layout is just so bleeding boring !!!
Between 1999 and 2001 they nearly did without DRS anyway. Todays cars couldn't do it even with DRS. Look at Monza last year, IIRC they had trouble reaching 350 kph.
@ 0:39, how can he shift, when he doesnt have is right hand on the steerign wheel? nice track btw, good old one. I was there this year (2010). I had to park my car on the old track! that was great, brings back old memories
It wasn't one person, but a chain of unfortunate circumstances that led to it. Political expectations as a compromise to built the new section, pressure and threads from F1 to not race there if they don't shorten the track, and very little time to finish everything until the next grand prix, aligned all the holes in the swiss cheese model.
@ledaf41 Maybe i understand you wrong, or you have wright wrong, but all the Chikanes at Hockenheim was 1st Gear Corners about 80-90Kmh... The Cars breake 130 Meters before the Chikane. So no they dont take the Chikanes with Max Speed...
Tbh, they shouldn't have removed the old track. There isn't any track other than Spa and Monza which features 2-3 long straights. We want to see the cars going to their top speed if possible.
I have just watched the video 'How the OLD Hockenheim circuit looks like in 2012'. The back straight to the Senna chicaine is in remarkably good shape.
Ah sigh the days where tyre preservation barely existed and it was all about being on the limit all lap, every lap. Fuck the FIA for getting rid of this track crying about safety. Modern F1 cars are ridiculously safe. It was all about the money for Bernie and fuck Hermann Tilke for agreeing to redo the track.
I always heard they changed it 'cause it was "boring" and "not spectator friendly". I think it was perfect for motorcycle racing; lots of slipstreaming and outbraking. Although it was a dangerous track when it rained. The pine trees lining the straights kept the wind from blowing the spray away, making it very misty.
Spartan168 Loads of run off areas in the braking zones and cars in the time of this video were already a hell of a lot safer than in the early 90s. This track isn't even remotely dangerous to today's standards.
SmeurkeDeKat How anyone could deem such a legendary track to be boring is unfathomable. Maybe the straights weren't ideal spots for the fans but they still had the stadium section and half of sector 1. Then they had the spectator region after the chicanes. IMHO its better than Monza for spectator space and Monza doesn't get any flak! It was perfect for motorcycles and F1 cars. How many tracks aren't dangerous when it rains? The point is when it rains all the drivers know the limits and risks involved. I would even go so far as to say they embrace it, its what made F1 the pinnacle of racing and why rally drivers are hugely respected. Its because the average person couldn't dream about the sheer bravery and courage required to push when your brain says no but heart says yes. Yeah I did notice that the trees on the straights would encourage standing water which would aid aqua planning and lethal for the drivers. I feel a compromise and cutting back of the trees could be done though. It still gets misty in Brazil, Spa, Japan (both circuits) and Britain, so while your point is valid its not really a reason to wreck such a glorious track.
I don't think so. They altered the rules for the 2002 season, maybe it changed then. Of course before that during the 92&93-seasons the top-teams had the automatic boxes, too.
It was obvious that a track redesign was on the cards at Hockenheim, but I think everyone was surprised when they tore up the old track section. It still makes me sad to think of that waste of a good track every time I see the gap in the trees where the track used to go.
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The last race for Alesi with Prost
The last points for Alesi with Prost
The last points for Prost
The last race for Prost on Hockenheim
The last race for everybody on old Hockenheim
Lotta things ended that day, and all of them were good, apart from alesi and prost, jean why, why didnt you chose to go to ferrari for 2000😔
@@zinddy was he offered a seat for Ferrari in 2000?
@@solitaryclusterofneurons598yes i believe he was, with schumacher himself saying he would love to have him as a teamate
Hockenheim never return to old layout ever since.
@@zinddyi believe he was offered the Seat to replace Schumi after his accident in '99. And he should have taken that seat. Even if It was for just 4 or 5 races. It was a no brainer. I think that would be a hell of an story , and a way of really putting him on the light spot again, and probably extending his career until 2003 or 2004.
I really miss the old Hockenheim. 😢
The old version of Hockenheim was overrated.
@@patrickanderson9023 no its not
@@AMDRyzen57500F it was
Dat death-grip :3
Hey Jimmy :)
Jimmy Broadbent lol. Alesi always look like he was taking a driving test with the hand positioning.
In that time Jean Alesi and Jos Verstappen (Max his dad) hade the same grip of the steering wheel.
Shed boi :)
10 years ago 😂
Good old German Autobahn! Best Track ever...
Hermann Tilke disliked this video.
Hermann who? 🖕😬🖕
But Tomori Kusunoki liked it.
Bernie was the one who ordered the changes. Tilke has said he didn't like doing it.
Hermann Tilke mother knows 1000000 man with big dick
I fucking worship this man, even when TCS was introduced he refused to use it.
Love the way Alesi gripped the wheel
"the Alesi deathgrip"
i miss old hockenheim
boring
Great track to simply race your mates . New layout is rubbish
Am I the only one who prefers the current layout. I think its one of the best races of the year. Its a track you can pass on.
@@AlonsoRules The new Layout sucks against this past epic High Speed Track
not really , it was quite boring track . In our reality iw would be pretty hard to overtakes in that chikanes, bcs they not slow enough on entry and very narrow (smth what we gonna see next year in Netherlands(god helps drivers to make 1 overtake)). All stadium sector bcs of fast entry was also not good for overtakes. So, yeah , it was very historic and charismatic track(for sure), but lacking overtakes and it will be lacking more in modern regulations. Even Monza with same speed-aproach can give u more opportunity to overtake.(bcs of hard and slow chicanes)
ahhhhh V10, old Tracks and good Drivers. Good old Time..
Miss Alesi and miss the PROPER Hokenheim. Was a great track now it's just........a track. The only track i miss.
We all miss the old Hockenheim Ring...
This was always my favourite circuit on the calendar when I first got into F1 in the early 90s and it's really sad to see the state that the old forest section is in today. Always breaks my heart when you watch today's cars reach turn 2 and you see the gap in the trees straight ahead where the track used to go. It's just a shame they couldn't have kept the old layout intact for future use. It would have been fabulous to see some of the modern cars of today attempt the Ostkurve.
Agreed. Depressing.
Unfortunately they had to demolish the old track for enviromental reasons. So sad! Hockenheim is my home track and it will never be the same.
This circuit was truly magical.
These long straight lines in the forest were just epic
Acer badged Ferrari V10 engine
Beautiful 😎 What a track 🤩 So hardcore.
That distinctive way he help the wheel 👍
i watch today's german grand prix and was so sad at what tilke and fia did to the great hockenheim track........i watched this video to remind me of a once great track
dat sound of the engine screaming..
I really miss the old layout. This and Spa were my two favorites. "When something's good, why must they change".
Ich will das zurück!!!! Das war F1. Race must go on !!!!!
Quite shame on FIA for not making this old track alive in more than 10 years past!
blame on the owners tbf. They could keep the old track if they wanted to
@@footplusballid2470 True! Old money grubbing farts destroyed classic Hockenheim.
At least keep it until 2005 when V10 cars are at the most powerful (but without the stupid tyre rule). Wish we can see F2004s and MP4-20s racing in this iconic layout.
bring it back!!!!!
Should never have got rid of the forest. What a major fuck up that was. Hockenheim had an identity. Now it's just another generic circuit, could be anywhere. It's like many new football stadiums...same generic bowl design. When you saw the forest you knew exactly you were in Hockenheim..when you see the Kop you know you are at Anfield. To lose an iconic aspect of a circuit is a huge mistake.
Losing the iconic long straights, is essentially what made Hockenheim broke. They lost their legendary status, thinking it was the motodrom, when in fact, it was the straights. In addition to that, the investment for the new section never returned. Hockenheim can't afford to host F1 anymore and really only hosts small racing categories today. DTM is the biggest event there now, and they struggle with viewership as well.
Jean is a beast at the wheel. I can't even imagine how good was his team mates and opponents these days 🎉
One the most beautiful and sounding F1 car ever. I miss those days when Formula 1 was about racing and not saving fuel, engines or tires all the time.
Saving fuel, engine and tires was definitely a thing back then.
Hockenheimring is one of the few race track which has been slowly and constantly depraved in the history.
In 1932, when they opened the track it was 12km long. It used to have 3 fucking long straights, damn fast kinks, and some slow corners.
At the late 30's they shortened it to 2 very long straights, and they built the long-long Ostkurve.
At the 60's they built the arena section with a new finish straight. The 2 very long backstraights became around 500 meters shorter.
In 1970 they added 2 chicanes at the middle of each backstraights, which was quite annoying.
In 1982 they added another chicane in front of the fast and entertaining Ostkurve.
At the early 90's the 3 chicanes became much slower.
And finally everyone knows what happened in 2002.
Almost the same happened to Assen and Masaryk circuit.
+Borsófőzelék Piskótakockával It had to be this way bro. Imagine this 2015 F1 V6 Hybrid going around track from 30-ties. It would be boring as hell...
Padek Sewenejt Aha, so I'm the only guy who think F1 needs really different tracks. 95% of today's tracks are mostly torteous with slow corners, with 1 or 1.2 km long straights. This is what I call boring. Today the 12 km Hockenheim would be a great challenge for the engineers to set up the engine and it still would have some fast but non-flatout corners. And you can imagine great slipstreaming battles with some finishes similar to IndyCar finishes. We have 18, sometimes 20 races in a year with 18 or 20 tracks. The opportunities are really wide, but we don't seize with them.
Niderfyn I blame Tilke, Bernie, FIA, FIM and maybe most of bigger companies.
And don't forget Zandvoort! Tilke said a while ago that his dream is to change the Nordschleife into a modern course.
BLITZund DONNER He don't has the money to pay the number of bodyguards that could save him from murder...
That sound when it jumps into 7th gear :O
Jean Alesi RESPECT!
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the old track was so unique, the new one is just another new modern style track without a soul
I miss the Prost team, nice blue cars...
i love the way he used to hold steering wheel and i miss old hockenheim :(
So long it's not a Tilke track it's good but he's mangled this old fine circuit too and is the builder of so many new soulless F1 tracks in the arab states and many more worldwide.
not really , it was quite boring track . In our reality iw would be pretty hard to overtakes in that chikanes, bcs they not slow enough on entry and very narrow (smth what we gonna see next year in Netherlands(god helps drivers to make 1 overtake)). All stadium sector bcs of fast entry was also not good for overtakes. So, yeah , it was very historic and charismatic track(for sure), but lacking overtakes and it will be lacking more in modern regulations. Even Monza with same speed-aproach can give u more opportunity to overtake.(bcs of hard and slow chicanes)
This car was a pure beauty. Same applies to the track.
Good driving. Very committed on corner entry.
i miss this track...
The greatest track of all time #bringbacktheoldhockenheim
Who ever ripped this track up should be jailed
He steers the same as jos verstappen with the thumbs. Great action.
We need these cars in project cars !!! ASAP
Download F1 challenge 99-02. Best F1 game to date imo. Based of ISI physics who do Rfactor and Rfactor 2
@tera90s
Electro-hydraulic gearbox with paddle actuation.
The upshift and downshift levers are located behind the steering wheel in proximity to the driver's index and middle fingers.
I love sound of these old F1 cars..
the best circuit ever R.I.P
Legendary driver! Used to play GP2 on windows and it would always default to Alesi and I followed him ever since. Unfortunately I was too young to see his only win
circuits like this one, imola, monza, spa, assen, brands hatch and brno should NEVER be messed with!
we want the old track and V10 motors
I think that the new track is a good race track, but in contrast with the old layout it's just boring. The old track was unique, a track that was just once on the globe. I think: If the old track would be there in the Hockenheim forest and also the new layout exist, their would be lots of opportunities: the new track for touring cars and GT's and the old track for F1 and Endurance races (WEC in Hockenheim (Endurance Layout) --> sounds good ;D ) but that's just a dream...
A combination would be great, because there would be a really fast part but a slow part too. So the setup-spectrum is huge.
Thanks to the gouvernment there is no old track! Two points were: permission to build the new track and get money from the state: only if the old track would be removed with a following reafforestation of the parts. Anyways, the owners of the track were a bunch of old money grubbing farts. There was never ever a reason to build the new track, even Ecclestone said that.
There was a reason, the spectators couldn't see most of the action as the cars spent over a minute in the forest section.
C3lloman if it’s a spectacle sport why don’t we just make it into a circle that way fans can see all the action...oh wait
@@zackstaa7826 this deserves way more likes!!! Stupid nascar idiots would not even make it out turn 1 before crashing in F1
Man does anyone else miss the old hockenheim layout ?
@vprmn
Not on a rocker mount. You can push or pull from either side of the wheel to get an upshift or downshift.
McLaren now uses a similar system with a split lever on a rocker mount. The upper lever does the usual right/upshift, and left/downshift business. Under it is another rocker lever that does the opposite so the driver can work through the gears with the index and middle finger on one hand with other free to adjust things or use the clutch paddles.
I really miss this track and I even don't live far from it. The sound is also very gorgeous, too, looking forward for the sound machine, ha. It is still my favourite track in F1 2001 and rFactor, the last really highspeed track together with Spa, Monza and Mexico now (no Peralta :'|).
Thank God I was too young back then, to remember something about the old track, I would probably miss it more.
+L.S. Moto Wenn ich jemals dort hingehen würde, ja ich mache es und zünde gleich zwei an.
200LiterKopter
Ich dachte du wohnst in der Nähe haha
+L.S. Moto Ich hab nicht gesagt dass ich nicht in der Nähe wohne, nur will ich die Strecke einfach nicht in ihrem jetzigem Zustand also ein haufen Gras und sonst nichts, nicht sehen.
200LiterKopter das kann ich verstehen. Ich will die neue auch nicht betreten. Allein aus protest. Aber die alten stellen möchte ich doch mal sehen.
+James G Hey, mate, nice to see you around here :P
All my hopes for F1 are lasted for 2017. I'm really excited, how they want to keep this sport out of ruin. Maybe it's gonna to be good again, Idk.
For the tracks, well if Mateschitz will really rebuild the connection to the old Österreichring, I'll never be against Red Bull again, I swear it, never. This may be a dream, but hopefully he'll buy the Hockenheimring, too. This track is making loss since it was rebuilt. Maybe Mateschitz will have a heart, it worked with the A1-Ring (RBRing), it will work with the Hock.
"Entertainment". I love to hate this word. The problem about this, is that some fans hate processions, thought they could be more intersting than some overtakes with plastic support.
But I've met "fans" who hate the old Hockenheimring, Monza, some even Spa, Monaco and processions. No wonder this sports is slowly dying. The battle Räi vs. Ves (Spain, Hungary) was one the most entertainig battles this year, but no. "We hate processions".
Sometimes the F1 community is something to be ashamed for, but than when I'm sick of it, I watch races from the late 90s or 2006 - 2010, when this sport was still good, and FFS noone complained.
The good old times 👍
Wow i miss this track
amazing sound and track
@vertigo8 Yep, its a remaining from his carting days. Thats something they teach you there, Alesi always kept his driving like that.
@vprmn
it was an extreme challenge for drivers. combination of high speed straights that required very low downforce setup and the slow, technical stadium section made it a unique challenge the drivers loved. nowadays hockenheim is just your average tilkedrome, with no unique features. sad
@Kabaampje444
The Prost team's wheel used a rocker system with the levers mounted on a central pivot. The driver could pull back on the right lever or push forward on the left lever to upshift.
Look at the steering wheel - this car is so wobbly. I'd never even try to take it on a few laps, while Alesi was racing in it. And even scored some points!
Ah, yeah, didn't spot it but figured out when I was reading the older comments. Automatic gearchanges were used in 2001 indeed.
spa. old hockenheim, monza. !!!! best tracks
i like more this than the newest.
Good old Alesi !!! Even when he was having to put up with poor machinery. He would still drive it to the max, even if it meant not scoring point !!!
Plus i really miss the old classic Hockenheim-Ring layout, it had so much character. The current layout is just so bleeding boring !!!
pure hero
what about salzburgring? it was a regular feature on the world superbikes calendar until the late 90s. amazing layout and landscape.
Rebuild this track, please
@vprmn
Wrong.Spa, Old Hockenheim,Monza and Nurburgring Nordschelfe best tracks.
can't believe that they changed the Hockenhiem - Ring from this. It's much more exciting than the new track...
Between 1999 and 2001 they nearly did without DRS anyway. Todays cars couldn't do it even with DRS. Look at Monza last year, IIRC they had trouble reaching 350 kph.
@ 0:39, how can he shift, when he doesnt have is right hand on the steerign wheel? nice track btw, good old one. I was there this year (2010). I had to park my car on the old track! that was great, brings back old memories
Alesi's 2001 Prost Acer car still epic.😊
The person's who decide to castrate this awesome st legendary configuration of this race track, have had a brain damage.
It wasn't one person, but a chain of unfortunate circumstances that led to it. Political expectations as a compromise to built the new section, pressure and threads from F1 to not race there if they don't shorten the track, and very little time to finish everything until the next grand prix, aligned all the holes in the swiss cheese model.
Ez volt az igazi Hockenheimring! Nem a mostani gagyi gokart pálya!
OLD F1! Great stuff, great stuff..
Automatic mode was available in 2001 on most if not all cars.
@ledaf41
Maybe i understand you wrong, or you have wright wrong, but all the Chikanes at Hockenheim was 1st Gear Corners about 80-90Kmh...
The Cars breake 130 Meters before the Chikane.
So no they dont take the Chikanes with Max Speed...
This old Hockenheim would be up there with Spa and Suzuka and Marina Bay nowadays. Yes Marina Bay too. The Singapore GP is my favorite.
Herman tilke is the producer of the circuit
very nice the good old v10 ;)
last dance on hring
thumbs up if you like more the old Hockenheim Ring
Tbh, they shouldn't have removed the old track. There isn't any track other than Spa and Monza which features 2-3 long straights. We want to see the cars going to their top speed if possible.
Not in this era, #Mercedes
still miss the old hockenheim…!!
I have just watched the video 'How the OLD Hockenheim circuit looks like in 2012'. The back straight to the Senna chicaine is in remarkably good shape.
@LuxeXx If googled images of the old track in its current state, you would cry. Grass has grown all over the old track.
0:19, bombing down the straight, in my 3.0...
oooh good old times
long track: beautiful,
Yes, was allowed in 2001.
Never noticed his high grip on the steering wheel til today
V10 > V8, no matter what y'all say, I don't care.
Wow the sound
Look how bloody hard Jean is having to work to wrestle that thing into corners. And even the crap cars sound incredible
It sounds better on this vid but there is another one on YT which looks better
Ah sigh the days where tyre preservation barely existed and it was all about being on the limit all lap, every lap. Fuck the FIA for getting rid of this track crying about safety. Modern F1 cars are ridiculously safe. It was all about the money for Bernie and fuck Hermann Tilke for agreeing to redo the track.
Mans gotta eat
safety is equal parts the car and the design of the track
I always heard they changed it 'cause it was "boring" and "not spectator friendly". I think it was perfect for motorcycle racing; lots of slipstreaming and outbraking. Although it was a dangerous track when it rained. The pine trees lining the straights kept the wind from blowing the spray away, making it very misty.
Spartan168 Loads of run off areas in the braking zones and cars in the time of this video were already a hell of a lot safer than in the early 90s. This track isn't even remotely dangerous to today's standards.
SmeurkeDeKat How anyone could deem such a legendary track to be boring is unfathomable. Maybe the straights weren't ideal spots for the fans but they still had the stadium section and half of sector 1. Then they had the spectator region after the chicanes. IMHO its better than Monza for spectator space and Monza doesn't get any flak! It was perfect for motorcycles and F1 cars. How many tracks aren't dangerous when it rains? The point is when it rains all the drivers know the limits and risks involved. I would even go so far as to say they embrace it, its what made F1 the pinnacle of racing and why rally drivers are hugely respected. Its because the average person couldn't dream about the sheer bravery and courage required to push when your brain says no but heart says yes. Yeah I did notice that the trees on the straights would encourage standing water which would aid aqua planning and lethal for the drivers. I feel a compromise and cutting back of the trees could be done though. It still gets misty in Brazil, Spa, Japan (both circuits) and Britain, so while your point is valid its not really a reason to wreck such a glorious track.
Out of all the tracks that should be fucked with, THIS ONE!?!?!?!?!
totally agree with you dude..
Goodbye Old Hockenheim
@PulletSurprise shifting up with left paddle? you mean downshift isnt it?
My F1 Gold era 😕
I don't think so. They altered the rules for the 2002 season, maybe it changed then. Of course before that during the 92&93-seasons the top-teams had the automatic boxes, too.
1Downforce levels are sooo low. Incredible to look at how Alesei has to steer the car mid-corner!!
It was obvious that a track redesign was on the cards at Hockenheim, but I think everyone was surprised when they tore up the old track section. It still makes me sad to think of that waste of a good track every time I see the gap in the trees where the track used to go.