Here's the thing the fact Smash Bros Brawl's Subspace Emissary is STILL being talked about just shows that it was a good thing even if "the cutscenes will get leaked" issue Sakurai has. Like you said that was on the Wii, I can only imagine what a great story and proper world building could happen if they did again. Maybe it starts off with a character opening a dimensional portal so strong that other universes start showing up. Kirby could be the best character to start off with since he's done dimension jumping before from the Forgotten Land game.
It sounds more like a personal problem Sakurai himself has than an actual thing. You don't see other games really having that much of a problem with this. It's completely blown out of proportion
@@Cronalixz Well unfortunately Sakurai is a old school obstinate, not willing to change because it's his opinion. Probably only when someone else takes over will they try to change smash for the "better" by giving us another story similar to Subspace Emissary.
The problem is, that these cutscenes weren't even there for story or worldbuilding, because nearly no one at Nintendo cares about that. The cutscenes in Brawl are action filled eyecandy, and that is what they are supposed to be.
Yeah I really hate that, but look people are going the leak the big stuff, it's our fault if we fall for the spoiler. Nintendo is just being the same stingy company they always were which is a shame.. But they managed to keep winning the console wars.
@@chillbizz74 Thing is that it makes sense. The cutscenes were supposed to be a surprise for us yet said surprised got spoiled, like when somebody tells you that a friend of yours is preparing a surprise party for you.
@@chillbizz74 Dude, you can't call them stingy when they got a flipping Disney owned character in the game. Subspace emissary wasn't even that good, just the cutscenes were interesting and if those get leaked, then people won't bother to get the game, that easy. Sales didn't do well, so company took a decision, doesn't help it was the Wii and that one didn't do that well either.
@@QuizMasterEntertainment Alright true and it is true that the cutscenes would've taken a lot of time, all though I just felt the reason a little petty..
@@chillbizz74 For context, what the video says is not absolute truth btw, it's just Sakurai's personal take, Nintendo thought SSE wasn't really worth the effort either, so they gave no single player to smash 4.
Literally one of the most exciting things about the Smash series were the cutscenes. As an opinion people may not like them, but as a fact, they do A LOT for a game
@@----Moon---- Original video said Rebirth when I checked it. Too lazy to go back but I have concentration issues especially when reading so like maybe I’m slow xD
1:17 he didn't get the rights from Disney Disney was 100% on board and okay with it but the reason why Sora was not added and was being held back for that long to not be in Smash Bros was because Tetsuya Nomura said he would need to come up with a little context of small lore on how Sora's appearance in Smash ultimate is Canon ... When Sora in Smash is not the real one and is just a figurine in the spitting image of him brought to life in the world of smash? Like even when iwata was still around, there is actual information in saying they are all toys fighting each other.
They are not making another Subspace because it jeopardized the development of Brawl. They needed entire studios to consistently work on not only the cutscenes but also the gameplay. Both of the game delays were a result of that. The cutscene thing has nothing to do with it. He talked about how many were shown online anyway to explain why they kept doing them as a marketing tool. They are not gonna come out and say, "It takes too long, and we don't have the resources." If he was entirely against their existence, there wouldn't be any in Kid Icarus Uprising and Smash Ultimate.
@allthedumbthingz-oc5cc Did you Know Gaming? for Brawl talks about the development of Subspace Emissary, and Source Gaming's "debunking misconceptions" explained the delays.
I'll take this over the cutscenes excuse. I totally get that another subspace would take a lot of time and budget. I just hope that if they do an adventure mode for the next game that it won't be as boring as World of Light.
I genuinely don't understand how Sakurai can be so concerned with Smash cutscenes being leaked online resulting in the game being spoiled for people, yet he was totally ok with making Sheik/Zelda a transformation character in Melee and Brawl and having tons of Final Smashes contain spoilers for their respective games. idk, it just makes me think there's more to this and a certain level of nuance to what he's trying to say is lost in translation or something.
@@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569 it’s because it’s probably not the authentic reason. I fully believe that the underlying reason cutscenes aren’t in the cards is because it would be really expensive, and Sakurai doesn’t think it’s worth the expense when there’s a chance that people will end up experiencing those cutscenes in the wrong context. So instead, that budget goes into producing really epic reveal trailers, which are guaranteed to be experienced as intended.
@@hedgiehogdudeu_u406 He spoiled stuff about Metal Gear Solid 4 before it launched & he spoiled a bunch of late-game stuff about Mother 3 back in Brawl.
Bro, I can't get the image of Steve emptying his Inventory filled with Robot parts after defeating Galleom💀 And then those parts he dropped off the edge land on another fighter That would be the best cutscene in the game
It's hard to believe how old it is now, but maybe Sakurai would be more comfortable with a "cutscene" done in the style of Half-Life 2 or Portal 1 & 2 where it's literally integrated directly into the gameplay? No one gets precisely the same perspective, because you can still move around during it, and sometimes (particularly Portal 2) you can slightly tweak the precise dialog with your actions. Valve's games had a hard time justifying the "silent protagonist" personas they used for these, but it's probably easier with Nintendo properties to do so.
Funnily Enough, Sakurai already has worked on a game that did that. Kid Icarus Uprising repeatedly had the characters engage in full conversations during regular gameplay, including cutscenes in much the same way you described.
I was thinking an RPG style or visual novel style where you walk around like an RPG and talk to characters with grunts. For battles it splits to 2D. I think this would allow to make a deeper story that’s also easier to create and include all the characters than what subspace does.
@@jigglypuff452 That could probably work well enough, though it may feel odd for a franchise like Fire Emblem to go back to sound byte voice clips after having most of it's dialog being fully voiced since 2017
@@shanegiorgio4713 I think the fe characters would have longer voice clips for grunts. For example the dialogue would say “Alright everyone, let’s go forth and make a way through this path.” While the grunt would say “I’ll fight for my friends.” Whereas another character like Peach would just giggle.
Sakurai doesn't want to work on Smash anymore, that's why he worked to hard on making the characters to the point where he even got to set himself a home office to work on the smash reveals and to pretty much livestream from home, probably the next Smash if they actually make a new one will be even smaller because Nintendo will not get Sora, Banjo and many other non Nintendo IPs on it again, you know negotiations for those characters will not be easy, specially with Disney involved.
@@QuizMasterEntertainmentSakurai did all that work to get those IPs, so you're definitely right. The next Smash game will be more "Nintedo All-star" again. I don't have a problem with this personally, I'm ready for smash to move on from being mainly a product for the masses and be something focused on mainly being fun.
@@Cronalixz Couldn't have said it better, absolutely agree on it. Smash Bros is fun and basically started a whole genre, but probably it needs to be left behind, as fun as it is, it really needs a refresher to go back to the roots, less just fanservice and more just a fun pick up and play.
I love cutscenes, there are games where instead of playing them, I just watched the cutscenes on RUclips and those alone made me fall in love with the characters
@cvlcek144 No Mario and his friends are perfect for Mario characters in Smash Bros games being Star Fox bomb after Star Fox Zero. So Mario characters are good besides Waluigi without Sakurai permission so only Fox, Falco, and Wolf are the only ones and no one else.
@Twilight17Petkoton Then let's add more Fire emblem reps. BS. Mario has 13 reps in the game! Legend of Zelda have 6. Star Fox has 3, Fire Emblem has 8, Pokémon has 8, these are all NINTENDO ips. There is no reason why simply because Star Fox Zero wasn't favored well (literally only because forced motion controls) should have only 3 reps when it started as one of their most popular IPs. Krystal would be insane and the most Unique, General Scales also could be a Unique option.
I strongly agree with you. Smash Bros. is a game famous for its fanservice and there is no better fanservice than an epic story with famous characters interacting with one another.
I think a part of Sakurai's hangups with the cutscenes in Brawl at least might be the different perspective that Japan has when it comes to piracy. Essentially, if you're experiencing a product in any way other than the way it's supposed to be, in this case playing the story mode and seeing the cutscenes ingame, it's considered to be piracy, and so from his perspective, having cutscenes in Smash would be an incentive for people to do it. And game developers already have to be wary of actual piracy as is. An example of this happened in the Yugioh community recently when the Card Game Art Works artbook released, which contained a large amount of concept artwork that had never been shown to the public until then. People who posted pictures of the newly revealed art, or even made fanart based on details that were only revealed through it were being hounded to delete their posts because they were "pirating" the artbook by showing parts of it online. There's even some cases where a new card gets revealed on the official Japanese website, and people theorycrafting combos get hounded to delete their posts for showing that same image of the new card because of the "unauthorized reproduction is prohibited" watermark.
I mean, if it’s that big of a deal of them leaking, just don’t include them on the version 1.0 product. Download the cut scenes with a day one patch and there we go.
If it is not going to have them anyways in a sense, they may as well do so, yeah? I am not FOND of the idea, but if it shall for Nintendo to DO something cool again.
Sakurai's argument (or at least one he's shared before) is that the cutscenes will leak from the final game (before or after launch) onto the internet, and therefore the average consumer will not have to purchase and play XYZ game in order to see it's cutscenes, which are usually a rather expensive portion of game development, particularly in the case of cinematic, pre-rendered cutscenes, which are usually among the most prominent aspects of games to garner tons of feature length compilation videos across the internet. (See the amount of channels with playlists or 13 Hour long videos showcasing every single cutscene in Xenoblade 3's main story alone.) In-engine cutscenes tend to be comparatively simple and inexpensive to produce in terms of animation,* (VA's and other additions will still cost money if applicable) but Smash doesn't really have any of those. The closest example would be the victory animations, Which Sakurai has never lamented to seeing spread online, or at least not to a degree strong enough to abstain from producing them in future projects. * - Although not exclusively. (i.e. Xenoblade 3 again. In all those 13 hours of highly-posited and impressive cutscenes, only a very small amount of them are fully pre-rendered.)
then 20 years down the line if someone wants to get the used game and play it, they end up getting an incomplete game that they can't easily get the downloads for because the console would be out of service.
ADD SMASH RUN BACK! Add new maps, custom settings (time, enemies, layouts, etc) and new features (what if characters could run into each other and fight to steal their points, or even team up?)
Sakurai isn't painstakingly animating and modeling every character, I dunno why people are attributing everything to him and not the hundreds of people doing most of the work.
@@opadripof course he has help with a lot of it, but it's almost been blatantly shown he's in charge of a INCREDIBLE amount of it and has to test by himself. Characters, networking and getting licenses (whatever you call that process) is done by him. Nintendo characters aside, that's A LOT more work just to jam more of them in the game.
@@FallenFlame6666 I have a feeling people will either: overreact like you said, or strangely not care at all..which happened too many times when creators actually make something people asked for😅
I think there are ways around filling your story mode with nothing but cutscenes. You could still have a few, fully animated cutscenes, but have most of the interactions by via text (possibly text read outloud), like in Fire Emblem & Kid Icarus: Uprising. We could also use a lot more in-game cutscenes as well (like the animations that play before boss fights). They don't require as much time and budget as fully animated cutscenes and could still give us some character interactions
Another thing to think about is that for Brawl specifically, watching all the cutscenes also leaked the rest of the roster that, at the launch of the game, we didn't know who all made the cut and who was added in as far as hidden characters were concerned. Yeah some people probably leaked the roster beforehand, but seeing the cutscenes and gameplay on RUclips showed definitive proof as to who was finalized in the game. Nowadays, especially for Ultimate, Sakurai himself revealed every single character up to a month before the release, so the cutscenes in a hypothetical Subspace-like Adventure mode would just be interactions and story-related spoilers vs being essentially the Character reveals. So there'd be a lot less pressure to spoil yourself watching the scenes online anyways cause you wouldn't be itching to know what characters you'll unlock.
How about we could’ve gotten a DLC story mode Mario Vs Link in the beginning Inklings at Inkopolis watching Inkling team up with Mario Link Luigi in Dracula castle king boo captured Daisy Luigi team up with Simon and richter Isabelle team up with snake All fire emblem characters
Counterpoint: the Smash Dojo website at the time was revealing Brawl's roster that you could spoil yourself with with a few clicks of the mouse. Sakurai's exclusively having a problem with the cutscenes.
@@GrayAndGrey I'm saying at the time, the Dojo didn't have the hidden characters shown. We didn't know for sure about ROB or Lucario or that Mewtwo was cut, etc. And I'm saying Sakurai should realize why people were so eager to watch the cutscenes online back then vs now. Back then they got to see who is in the game. Now it'd just be the story alone as they'd know who is in.
Sakurai has been so persistent on this matter for the past SIXTEEN YEARS that I was terrified that he might get rid of Giga Bowser entirely because there were mods for standalone playable Giga Bowser. "I gave you the ability to play as Giga Bowser for seven to ten seconds, and that just wasn't enough for you. I am pleased to announce that Giga Bowser will never appear in a game again, you ungrateful chuds."
There is one way I know of to stop leaks from happening... The Game Awards, because who were the only DLC fighters of Smash that weren't leaked prior to their reveal? Joker and Sephiroth, the two fighters who were revealed at the game awards. I have a speculation that the game awards have some kind of secret power over their reveals that prevent them from being leaked, or something like that
there's an easy work around it make the reveal trailers story mode cutscenes without telling us they're also cutscenes in the game (the part where the scene is leading up to the gameplay clips and the post gameplay part) anyway I honestly would like a new proper Smash Bros story mode it doesn't need to be a Subspace 2, but something in that direction would be nice to see :3 I'm sure if you put all the Smash Bros character reveals together, you can make a interesting story out of it ...sure it might need some aditional cutscenes, to show the boss and stuff, but it could probably work...if done well
Sakurai said that he thinks cutscenes are rewards, so i think a cool idea would be to have a movie mode like in ultimate, but you have to complete the story mode first to get it.
Super Smash Bros. Evolution could be a working title for Smash 6. I can imagine a freeroaming open-world game mode that pays tribute to all the various Nintendo game universes. Essentially, a 3D Metroidvania mode that anthologizes every major Nintendo franchise.
@@Jujan04Probably because Disney doesn’t want their characters punching each other in the face or using guns. I’m pretty sure that’s the whole reason we have Speedstorm
The “cutscenes as a reward” tracks, because the one franchise Sakuri worked on in the past was Kirby, and in instances throughout this franchise, some cutscenes do feel like a reward for when you beat an ultra hard mode/boss rush campaign. It definitely makes sense from that point of view, but yea: I get what you’re saying here; that cutscenes are just a part of the game. And not every game is a Kirby game.
I think the best case scenario for a story mode in a future Smash game would be bringing in the Mario and Luigi team after Brothership, the Mario and Luigi games always portrayed the Mario characters perfectly and having an entire separate team working on just the story and cutscenes would let it be even more epic than subspace without taking time away from the gameplay devs.
I mean, I kinda get where Sakurai is coming from, he and the rest of the Brawl developers wasted years perfecting the surprise that were gonna be the Sub-Space Emmisary cutscenes and he wanted to see how we would react when the game finally got released only for the surprised to be spoiled thanks to a leak, it must have hurt them to see their surprise spoiled like this. Is like preparing a surprise birthday party for a friend but he learns about it somehow, the surprise is spoiled and the moment is ruined.
He ain’t that old bro he can come out of retirement once in a while to make a game or two and he doesn’t have to work himself to death like he did with melee and brawl
8:22 “I can’t believe people think it’s just done” same here! Literally makes no sense for Nintendo and their greedy hands to just not continue a franchise like this
Sakurai is a great guy, he's basically a _genius_ of game design... But its infuriating how petty he can be sometimes. He refused to have in-game cutscenes just because they were leaked online, and he drastically altered the gameplay from Melee to Brawl just because he hated how people were being competitive with it. Not to mention that time he said that he was the ONLY person who could make Smash Bros... That still to this day really bothers me, because it spits in the face of so many talented developers and designers that make fan-content and mods who do AMAZING jobs making Smash Bros. feel like Smash Bros... I mean, fans made an entire moveset for WALUIGI of all characters, and Sakurai never did _that._ He also really hates sequels for some reason.
The worst part is that it’s not limited to the creators of fan content; it’s also an insult to the devs of the official games. No one with any understanding of how games are made thought that Smash has ever been a solo project. Of course, this isn’t even getting into other interpretations of his statement, none of which are favorable.
Just a quick question. Didn't Masahiro Sakurai say smasl ultimate was the last smash bros to be made and that its the end? Or will there actually be a even newer smash bros?
Don’t they have the options to not let people to stream or upload footage of the game? I think they did that with persona 5 which you couldn’t show anything passed a certain point.
Definitely it was a wise move not to do cutscenes. Sakurai choose to focus on getting guest characters to truly make Smash Ultimate. I only wish it had rollback netcode.
There is literally 0 chance the next smash game cuts the roster at all or even refines any of the characters other than balance patches. After the ULTIMATE smash game I feel like the only thing they’re gonna do with it is add new party modes, maybe a new story mode and make WOL not butt, and then add extra dlc down the line. Next smash game is ultimate deluxe and I’d put money on that
I kinda get Sakurai's perspective. Whats the point of going through the process of hiring animators and effort of rendering cutscenes if people are going to just spoil them online like whole milk? . I was lucky enough to go into subspace emissary completely blind.
What's the point of extra effort? I'm with the presenter of this video. If you're not going to give us a Subspace story at least give us more modes. What's the point of all these characters if they're just samey? I agree. Don't do cutscenes or Subspace. Fine. But where's Board the platforms, Race to the Finish, customizable movesets, customizable stages, ORIGINAL Break the Targets, instead of generic ones, Boss Rush Mode, Coin Launcher, Lottery, etc.? I could keep going. Oh wow. We got Steve from Minecraft and Banjo and Kazooie, but lost everything else. Hooray. This is CLEARLY Ultimate.
I definitely agree! I think as kids, Subspace was so cool because we got to see all our characters together in actual story mode and when world of like showed us that initial trailer, we thought we would be getting that with more characters and even voice acting. So it's definitely unfortunate that he's against this, and it almost makes us want someone else to direct the game who isn't afraid of leaks. I do think Ultimate should be the final game with a big roster because I know it definitely takes a lot of third party support to do this, but if we weren't able to get a story mode due to copyright, then I would rather get a reboot that only focuses on newcomers and giving us a cool story mode to enjoy. By now, there's been a lot more Nintendo characters that can be added and other characters that deserve spotlight. With fewer third parties, we can get more first parties that people have been asking for, like Waluigi, Geno or give us new characters like Impa from Age of Calamity or Akira from Astral Chain.
I can see cutscenes as a reward after a tough portion of the game. it's a nice way to cool down and feel great. That said as someone who like story based games I do think cutscenes are more essential than people who think they are just extra content that make games too much like movie would lead to you to believe.
I think people are getting too mad at Sakurai for not including cutscenes because they're being leaked and not nearly mad enough at the people that are leaking and ruining the story for everyone
Exactly. Sakurai stated that he puts a lot of effort into those and wants people to experience the craft while playing the game. But if no one is gonna really give credit where credit is due and go "cool hype cutscene." Then just give them the game with less, I'm sure a leak like that is sufficient enough for them since that's what they "want."
I know people will disagree with me but he has a fair point, things get leaked all of the time and spoilers are the worst thing for games in my opinion. If I made something and it got leaked in any capacity, I would be broken and it's not like he is wrong and as for you saying just ignore them, it's not as simple as that. You either go away from the internet or see all these leaks, leaks are everywhere and no matter what, you're going to get spoiled for them, even looking at something as simple as the thumbnail can have you be looking at a leak because of how thumbnails are like nowadays. With this in mind, I actually agree with Sakurai with this
I can confirm this because y bought some games and as i was on RUclips the video that appeared had the ending boss in my screen and even as far as showing a New form to a important characther i was like oh well... so i think y understand sakurai he worked so Hard with his team just for this exiting plot points to get spoiled online back then when the Internet wasnt a big deal it was a Huge surprise to me when i seen Sonic and snake made it in the game and yes i didnt check the box in the back lol
Nah it’s a stupid excuse for just being too lazy to do a Subspace Emissary again. Everything gets leaked online in the age of the internet so by that dumb logic might as well not make the game at all because it will be leaked.
@@MadMax-ii8gq People have emotions, it's reasonable to get upset if anything gets leaked. It doesn't matter if it's common, just because it is does not make it any better.
@@TheGreatPM1Yet it’s unreasonable and stupid to say the content just shouldn’t be included because of a leak. As he said in the video if they applied that logic to gameplay leaks as well there just wouldn’t be a game.
Even if I agree with Sakurai's perspective, it doesn't mean he should nuke the possibility of a single player mode like it completely. The levels helped us newcomers understand the characters better and Subspace Emissary wasn't fully leaked until after the game was released. Smash Bros needs more unique single player modes.
What I'd love to see along with something like Subspace, is actual Modes based off of franchises and they choose 10 for mostly single player. Like how about experiencing worlds of Pokemon, Sonic, Megaman, Metroid, ect and you do various battles and interactions with other characters that fans really wanna see. Instead of generic stuff like Multi Man bs, fight a dozen other Pokémon, Robot Masters and Mavericks, Shadows from Persona, ect and maybe even have them be allies. It's another reason why Subspace was liked, due to representation shown in it, but my idea is like a mix of Adventure, Classic and Smash Run, but more specified to one series at a time instead of randomly throwing them in (kinda like they did fkr Spirit Board DLC). They can take an All Star Mode approach to it but I recommend that they experiment
It would be really cool for a Subspace Emissary sequel or remaster for smash bros ult. or the next smash bros, I loved the smash bros brawl story mode that is my childhood and that is honestly the most I want from Nintendo, that is my dream to come true, if it's possible I will the the happiest man ever.
I loved Subspace Emissary for the interactions in cutscenes. I liked the Adventure Mode from Melee for the mix of having a character in a world that wasn't the one they were in in the first place. I wished Smash Bros Ultimate and 4's interactions were more than just matches.
Sakurai isn't even doing smash bros games anymore right? Wasn't that the whole reason he also started his channel, because he retired from game development? Could def be wrong tho.
What we really need for the next Smash Bros: -More Star Fox, Metroid, Earthbound, Kirby, Sonic, Mega Man characters because for some of them they didn't get any newcomer since Brawl except some who finally got something like the Metroid serie in Ultimate with Ridley and Dark Samus so, at least, somes new characters from Metroid who isn't Samus herself with or without armor so it nice to finally have two bad guys since there was just her since Smash 64 and that we still didn't have any new Zelda characters since Brawl like Volga, Zant, Fi, Midna, Revali or anyone else who isn't another Link itself. -No more newcomer about Mario, Pokemon and Fire Emblem because we get too much for them with the fact that most of the FE characters look like too much similar whatever if it the design or the moveset so they end up to be a waste a space and time for the Smash Bros game while somes others characters from Nintendo deserve better such Star Fox, Earthbound, Metroid and more but if Nintendo is too lazy for add new characters for their others franchises, they better to not add a newcomer for those 3 which are overrepresented or maybe remove somes of them who are useless and too similar to somes others characters like Pichu and Lucario or Mewtwo and Ike, Roy or Chrom because we are all agreed that it's called "Super Smash Bros", not "Super Smash Mario, Pokemon and Fire Emblem Bros" with a lot of favoritism toward those. -More new fresh stage because Ultimate suffer a lack of new stage who isn't from a old Smash Bros game stage port to Ultimate despite in previous Smash game it was more new stage and less old stage be back. -A good story mode with a lot of good cutscene like the Subspace Emissary mode in Brawl so not something like Ultimate about there is just a intro and somes ending and that all. If they manage to fullfit those goals or, if they can't do everything, if they just add more Metroid and finally more Star Fox characters in it and with the Banjo & Kazooie return, then I think I gonna be interested again for the Super Smash Bros serie because, to be honnest, it's been a while I didn't play Smash Bros Ultimate since the game have lost my attention with the fact that 2 years ago I was back in Super Smash Bros Brawl and end up to mods the game on my own since it was more easy on my side to mods Brawl than Ultimate and I don't hide I get more fun in Brawl than Ultimate by notice some issue in Ultimate like corpse who disappear few seconds later in stamina mode unlike Brawl which you can hit the corpse on ground without it disappear after wait few seconds and that the animation of the characters who flying in background if he get KO from air have one chance on two to not work in Ultimate unlike Brawl who always work. And, with the fact that I can finally create my own characters in Smash Bros Brawl by myself, I don't hide my own personalized game is more fun than Ultimate itself as I can have somes good characters who would never appear in a Smash Bros game such Skylanders, Digimon, Transformers and more characters as a Echo characters in Brawl so they better to not fail the next Smash Bros game because I think Ultimate was half good and half bad so it's good but it could have be better than that so if the next Smash Bros game fail to attract me, it will not be a issue for me to stay on Brawl since the modding community on it is still alive so one new Smash Bros game missed isn't so bad.
And this is why so many people want a new dev team for the next Super Smash Game so other series who hasn't gotten new fighters since Brawl can actually get new fighters that aren't over saturated with clones at best "echo fighters" should become assist trophies slash bosses that gives Kirby the copy ability of the fighter they echo off of.
Once again, you're challenging Nintendo to rebalance the roster with no clones. NINTENDO, HIRE THIS MAN! But seriously, fire emblem needs to be cut down. So I could see marth ike robin and Byleth returning with a newcomer, alear gaining powers from cut fire emblem reps. On the pokemon side, I could see pikachu, lucario, and greninja returning as they are very popular pokemon, alongside the new pokemon trainer from legends arceus wielding cyndaquil, dewott, and decidueye, and grovyle based on mystery dungeon. As for the Super mario reps. The must-haves are mario bros, peach, and daisy (if they make daisy different from peach). Bowser and junior. And newcomer paper mario, as he'd be different from mario. Sonic needs more reps like tails, knuckles, shadow, and eggman. Kirby needs more reps like Bandana dee and marx. Zelda needs more reps like the champions, skull kid, and ghirahim. Xenoblade chronicles need Noah and mio. Splatoon needs dj octavio. F zero needs blood falcon and black shadow. Pikmin needs the protagonist from Pikmin 4. Street fighter needs chun li. Final fantasy vii needs tifa, and the supposed smash reboot needs okami, puyo puyo, murasame castle, legendary starfy, and golden sun. I could go on, but it'd take too long. Besides, I'll let you talk about the franchises i haven't mentioned. (Because I haven't played them outside the NSO online service) Once again, it's nice to see someone passionate about Smash roster rebalance!
@@PoyoWildHookyRestCakeRokuYon It's not even Nintendo but ok? I'm not afraid to call out Sakurai if he's not talented enough to do anything new in terms of moveset's I mean theirs a reason Kirby is more successful without him, a lot of Smash Fans has com to terms Sakurai can't rebalance a roster without clones, Nintendo would need a new director focusing on Nintendo's big 7 in term of Newcomers with new original movesets maybe even retool or fully update the older fighters Nintendo's big 7 #1.Super Mario/Mario Party & Spin offs #2.Legend of Zelda #3.Pokemon #4.Kirby #5.Metroid Prime + Star Fox & F-Zero #6.Animal Crossing #7. Pikmin
My first exposure to Smash was from an emulated N64 version that my brother downloaded into the family computer. I was around 6-7 years old at the time and I was HOOKED to that game, So when I first saw Brawl cutscenes years later I was like "Wait, it's that game but look so much better!! I want to play it" I showed my brother the cutscenes too and he was also as excited as me to the point that when Smash 3DS came out, he bought it day one and we would take turn playing it since we only have one 3DS. So yeah, Brawl cutscenes was the thing that make me a fan of the series along with my brother. He even bought Ultimate on day 1 and play with me too.
I don't think that the Smash series is really a story-driven game, it's just a fighting game for you to play with friends. The story mode was just that, an extra mode.
I believe that the reason why fans care so much about having a story mode with cutscenes in Smash is because they love seeing all of these various iconic characters who come from different franchises officially interact with each other in some manner and have some kind of relationship. Smash is also a crossover so naturally people value some form of character interaction in crossovers. It’s a good reason why crossovers tend to be special and very exciting for many. Even without a story mode, the character reveal trailers at least allow for the characters to interact with each other.
Well, when it's the same game over and over with a few extra people popping up eventually it becomes pretty tough justifying the 50$ price tag outside of hype for a character they prior were playing hard to get with...
Well there are people that really like the extra modes. Like what the guy in the video said, there needs to be other stuff in the game besides the main game mode.
Hey, I understand the anguish to a good extent, but considering this is public, you're just misinforming people by repeatedly putting words in Sakurai's mouth, and that's not cool.
I think Sakurai is just giving his opinion, meaning his games wont have cutscenes, no, the games will have cutscenes, idk why he says BIG MISTAKE, is just a opinion, what he thinks cutscenes need to be. In the end smash bros will have cutscenes no matter what he says. The only thing it will be imposible is a story mode with the characters of other games outside Nintendo, i know sega/konami and others will gladly accept be part of that, but others companies wont do it, specially Disney or other big gaming studio, they will ask for more money or % for doing that. Also they will want some control over what their characters will do if they are going to be in a story mode, to not break character.
This is why I think letting someone else take on development wouldn’t be so bad Sakurai is amazingly talented but he is bitter about brawl to no end Sakurai made a big amazing story for kid Icarus uprising so I’m disappointed he’s not treated smash the same way
@SonicTheBlueBlur15, it's for people above 18 only. All videos with characters from media that is rated 18s is going to be age restricted, no matter how bad it really is. As long as the game is in the video, it is age restricted.
People hyped and gaslit themselves thinking it was something new entirely. Granted, I was one of them, too, but you don't see me complaining that it's a sequel to some old franchise like everyone else.
The first two Famicom Detective Club games are supposedly very good, and you could say the Switch remakes are new IP's in the west. Those who love Famicom Detective Club are certainly not mad about Emio being part 3 in the series.
Ngl. If there is a dream I always had was to have a Sonic and Shadow playable so I can use them in a team battles. Similarily, I always wanted to have a 2v2 battle: Mario and Luigi Vs. Wario and Waluigi. It would be such an iconic battle. On the side note, I could do then Mario and Luigi Vs. Sonic And Shadow, akin to SMBZ reference.
If you do a crossover, but these wildly different characters don't interact with each other, then what's even the point? The cutscenes from Subspace were magical.
Sakurai though the same thing, until he realize that people don't care how magical they are and they rather have it Leaked rather then experience it through playing, so what was the point for all that work?
You know if they make a new smash game I just pray that they don’t add Edge, Kanya, Rabbid Peach and Midnite If you know Mario +Rabbids Sparks of Hope you know who I’m talking about 😅
I don’t think they’d add Kanya or Midnite because they’d probably add a playable hero from the game before adding a villain, but how come you don’t want Sparks of Hope characters? What’s wrong with them?
@@MatthewWeinberg-lr6kv I have some nickpicks about it and yeah. Not really good reasons but if anything a few are like theories about the sequel if they would ever make one. Hopefully they do I did liked the game.
@@DanBrand99 They didn't lose value over time.I played mario + rabbids Sparks of hope just a few months ago and I really love the characters and I will love to see them appear in more games. maybe even a smash bros game
Cut scenes, or even quick-time events within cutscenes. I think those are really engaging but I also just love cutscenes with interactions between some really rare characters I think extra portions added to the story with DLC characters would bring in more sales as well.
One thing I think would be fantastic on a number of levels would be dynamic in-engine cutscenes for Smash, where the same story events play out a little differently depending on which characters you're using. That would be a lot of work but would pay off in terms of being rewarding and harder to spoil entirely online
8:24 I don't think people think it won't happen... cause it's Nintendo, it's more a question of should it happen or not. Ultimate would be the perfect end to the franchise, Sakurai has said time and time again he wants to quit Smash Bros, he did after Melee, then Brawl was announced so he came back to make sure it was done right, then he wanted to quit after Brawl... but then didn't so on so forth. Smash is his baby, he doesn't want Nintendo to just take the reins and possibly ruin it, especially now with DLC and microtransactions and all sorts of scummy things existing for companies to take advantage of gamers. He didn't have to work on Ultimate at all, he's high enough the food chain he could have sipped margaritas on some beach while still being paid. He insisted though, being there for every little detail of Ultimate's creation. To the point he hooked himself up to an IV because as much work as he's done in the past on Smash entries it made him sick, so he did the IV to avoid that (because that is a major problem in Japan in general, over working, possibly even the main cause for Iwata's stomach cancer, constantly getting sick, over working his body by overworking as a game dev and then later Nintendo's president). Either Sakurai quits, and Nintendo does what they want, possibly ruining and taking advantage of this big IP and their fans, or the series ends, that's the 2 outcomes. Personally I agree with the latter, Ultimate is a good note to end on, my favorite gaming characters aren't here so I can't personally say everyone is here, but... I can't complain either because I still enjoyed the time I had. If I want Subspace I can go back and play it, or Melee's adventure mode for a simpler story that's also good (I liked the idea of World of Light... but yeah not that execution, WAAAAAAY TO LONG AND BIG with just more of the same before any story progress is actually made). If Smash Bros ends, I wouldn't complain, or going as simple as possible let's remake Smash 64 but with newer things. Let's add new items, new Pokeball Pokemon, assist trophies, final smashes, some more modern characters, I'm good. Then moving along Melee do the same, especially recently getting into Akari build that has Sonic, Charizard, and Wolf to name a few that weren't in initial Melee. Making more modernized versions of older smashes, while keeping their simplicity, I'd be fine with that going forward, then when it's Ultimate's time for a remake, just more characters and stages that didn't exist in Ultimate. Insert Gen 15 Pokemon starter, insert future Link and Zelda, Waluigi, Shadow the Hedgehog, just build on the existing roster. 6 can't do that, the amount of money and licensing, like not even Disney was the big issue with Sora, that was primarily on the game company that owns it Square Enix. Why Final Fantasy has very little representation too. I mean sure Disney pulled some reins, why we won't see Goofy, Donald, or Mickey in smash bros, Darth Vader, Indiana Jones, Iron Man, etc Disney owned properties, but adding Sora allows them to sew seeds in other departments. Sora and Snake would be the most difficult to return, to some extent Cloud and Sephiroth also being owned by square, by extension guess that means Simon and Richter too since Konami owns them and Snake. A Smash 6 by no means will be as good as Ultimate, it's set up to fail because Ultimate is a set peak, the only way to beat that is to add more and go higher... but that's going to be next to impossible especially because of certain companies with their IPs. Even some Nintendo characters I could see not returning despite it being ya know Nintendo. Right off the bat do we need Pokemon Trainer with Squirtle and Ivysaur? Especially when Charizard does fine on its own if not better in Smash 4. Pichu I'm sure no one would cry over... me a little bit because it's fun to troll lol, young link though I definitely would especially being a representation of older Link play styles and disliking BotW Link's play style. That or would they up the echo fighters? I don't mind, good way to sneak in some like Daisy, but could see it getting out of control and rampant, over reliance on it. Everyone has a favorite character, and every character is viable in the right hands. Would you really want to toss them out? Especially for a story driven Smash bros, when you could insert certain comedic things in there, like Chrom running into Lucina and Marth, Pikachu trying to help Pichu control its electricity better maybe protecting it from a boss fight. Mario running into Dr Mario, wait what? What's going on? confusing Luigi and Peach, maybe Mario is captured by Bowser then completely taken aback because Dr Mario saves him. Every character could have value for story or competitive purposes. Dr Mario is a tank, he's heavy, slow, but that makes him durable and a hard hitter, while base Mario is a well rounded jack of all trades character. All this into account... do we really want a Smash 6?
The cutscenes is what made people talk about the games still till this day. If a new Smash Bros ever come out, I hope I see more cutscenes as well. And for the people that doesn't like looking at them, Sakurai should give us the option to skip the cutscenes.
I Really hope that either Rillaboom, MeowScarada, or possibly fully evolved grass starter of gen 10 joins next smash game/smash ultimate deluxe port as we never gotten a fully evolved grass starter in smash bros as a fighter for once and plus both Decidueye and Rillaboom sadly didn't join both base game and paid fighter pass dlc that fighter pass vol 3 didn't get made.
One way to have a subspace emmissary successor without the problems of cutscenes is a possible tv show. You could make a recreation of subspace that gives more personality to the characters and improves parts of the plot. It would be a great way to give people what they want and fight scenes would be legendary (you also wouldn't have to worry about leaks and spoilers as much if the plot is just recreating subspace). And if people want more you can make more original stories that introduce more characters, that way characters already in smash still get hype for being in the show.
Here's the thing the fact Smash Bros Brawl's Subspace Emissary is STILL being talked about just shows that it was a good thing even if "the cutscenes will get leaked" issue Sakurai has.
Like you said that was on the Wii, I can only imagine what a great story and proper world building could happen if they did again.
Maybe it starts off with a character opening a dimensional portal so strong that other universes start showing up. Kirby could be the best character to start off with since he's done dimension jumping before from the Forgotten Land game.
Maybe it could’ve had a DLC story mode of smash bros ultimate like Subspace Emissary
It sounds more like a personal problem Sakurai himself has than an actual thing. You don't see other games really having that much of a problem with this. It's completely blown out of proportion
@@Cronalixz Well unfortunately Sakurai is a old school obstinate, not willing to change because it's his opinion. Probably only when someone else takes over will they try to change smash for the "better" by giving us another story similar to Subspace Emissary.
Cutscenes wouldn’t be leaked this time cause cutscenes wouldn’t even have to be made with modern graphics.
The problem is, that these cutscenes weren't even there for story or worldbuilding, because nearly no one at Nintendo cares about that. The cutscenes in Brawl are action filled eyecandy, and that is what they are supposed to be.
This is Nintendo's equivalent to teachers punishing the whole class because one person talked.
Yeah I really hate that, but look people are going the leak the big stuff, it's our fault if we fall for the spoiler.
Nintendo is just being the same stingy company they always were which is a shame.. But they managed to keep winning the console wars.
@@chillbizz74 Thing is that it makes sense. The cutscenes were supposed to be a surprise for us yet said surprised got spoiled, like when somebody tells you that a friend of yours is preparing a surprise party for you.
@@chillbizz74 Dude, you can't call them stingy when they got a flipping Disney owned character in the game. Subspace emissary wasn't even that good, just the cutscenes were interesting and if those get leaked, then people won't bother to get the game, that easy.
Sales didn't do well, so company took a decision, doesn't help it was the Wii and that one didn't do that well either.
@@QuizMasterEntertainment Alright true and it is true that the cutscenes would've taken a lot of time, all though I just felt the reason a little petty..
@@chillbizz74 For context, what the video says is not absolute truth btw, it's just Sakurai's personal take, Nintendo thought SSE wasn't really worth the effort either, so they gave no single player to smash 4.
Literally one of the most exciting things about the Smash series were the cutscenes. As an opinion people may not like them, but as a fact, they do A LOT for a game
And that is why they became the trailers.
It's just lazy not to make them. Literally every game has cutscenes
@@t-pizzle- I guess all Nintendo Devs are lazy then.
The irony of Sakurai complaining about game cutscenes being shared on youtube... while sharing game cutscenes on youtube
Sakurai complaining about in-development game cutscenes being shared* but I still see your point considering Rebirth is only a few months old :p
@@skld-xm I'm pretty sure there were none from Rebirth, only the first part of the remake
@@----Moon---- Original video said Rebirth when I checked it. Too lazy to go back but I have concentration issues especially when reading so like maybe I’m slow xD
1:17 he didn't get the rights from Disney
Disney was 100% on board and okay with it
but the reason why Sora was not added and was being held back for that long to not be in Smash Bros was because Tetsuya Nomura said he would need to come up with a little context of small lore on how Sora's appearance in Smash ultimate is Canon ... When Sora in Smash is not the real one and is just a figurine in the spitting image of him brought to life in the world of smash?
Like even when iwata was still around, there is actual information in saying they are all toys fighting each other.
@@Drackflame951nice fanfic
They are not making another Subspace because it jeopardized the development of Brawl. They needed entire studios to consistently work on not only the cutscenes but also the gameplay. Both of the game delays were a result of that.
The cutscene thing has nothing to do with it. He talked about how many were shown online anyway to explain why they kept doing them as a marketing tool. They are not gonna come out and say, "It takes too long, and we don't have the resources." If he was entirely against their existence, there wouldn't be any in Kid Icarus Uprising and Smash Ultimate.
Haven’t heard of that info before at all.
@allthedumbthingz-oc5cc Did you Know Gaming? for Brawl talks about the development of Subspace Emissary, and Source Gaming's "debunking misconceptions" explained the delays.
@@BDeity Try sharing the sources more often next time.
I'll take this over the cutscenes excuse. I totally get that another subspace would take a lot of time and budget. I just hope that if they do an adventure mode for the next game that it won't be as boring as World of Light.
@@allthedumbthingz-oc5ccGoogle is easily accessible
I genuinely don't understand how Sakurai can be so concerned with Smash cutscenes being leaked online resulting in the game being spoiled for people, yet he was totally ok with making Sheik/Zelda a transformation character in Melee and Brawl and having tons of Final Smashes contain spoilers for their respective games.
idk, it just makes me think there's more to this and a certain level of nuance to what he's trying to say is lost in translation or something.
Spoilers for thee, not for me
As stupid as the leaking excuse is, spoilers for 6+ year old games aren't the same as spoilers for a game that hasn't released yet
@@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569 it’s because it’s probably not the authentic reason. I fully believe that the underlying reason cutscenes aren’t in the cards is because it would be really expensive, and Sakurai doesn’t think it’s worth the expense when there’s a chance that people will end up experiencing those cutscenes in the wrong context. So instead, that budget goes into producing really epic reveal trailers, which are guaranteed to be experienced as intended.
IDK, everyone just has their hangups. Miyamoto hates story, Aonuma hates continuity, and Sakurai hates cutscenes.
@@hedgiehogdudeu_u406 He spoiled stuff about Metal Gear Solid 4 before it launched & he spoiled a bunch of late-game stuff about Mother 3 back in Brawl.
RIP Break the Targets,SSE, Trophies, Coin Launcher, customized move sets for all characters (excluding dlc), demos and Board the Platforms.
Now that is something i want to come back, mini games!
they were sadly all leaked meaning they got cut
Smash should have more modes honestly instead of removing them
They need to make it where you can make ANY song the menu music WITHOUT some stupid requirement to unlock said feature
Ultimate isn't the ultimate Smash Bros. without Target Test, man...
Bro, I can't get the image of Steve emptying his Inventory filled with Robot parts after defeating Galleom💀
And then those parts he dropped off the edge land on another fighter
That would be the best cutscene in the game
What’s this in reference to?
Agreed
@@SummerToast5834nothing. This person is a true visionary.
@@SummerToast5834 It's a Reference to how 99% of Players drop stuff off a Ledge when emptying their Inventory on a high place
@@Beatboxing_Leprechaun oh okay like I play Minecraft I just kinda had to read that a few times 💀
It's hard to believe how old it is now, but maybe Sakurai would be more comfortable with a "cutscene" done in the style of Half-Life 2 or Portal 1 & 2 where it's literally integrated directly into the gameplay? No one gets precisely the same perspective, because you can still move around during it, and sometimes (particularly Portal 2) you can slightly tweak the precise dialog with your actions. Valve's games had a hard time justifying the "silent protagonist" personas they used for these, but it's probably easier with Nintendo properties to do so.
Funnily Enough, Sakurai already has worked on a game that did that. Kid Icarus Uprising repeatedly had the characters engage in full conversations during regular gameplay, including cutscenes in much the same way you described.
I was thinking an RPG style or visual novel style where you walk around like an RPG and talk to characters with grunts. For battles it splits to 2D. I think this would allow to make a deeper story that’s also easier to create and include all the characters than what subspace does.
Maybe anime cutscenes for smth more unique and easier budget cause we’ve seen enough of the cinematic ones
@@jigglypuff452 That could probably work well enough, though it may feel odd for a franchise like Fire Emblem to go back to sound byte voice clips after having most of it's dialog being fully voiced since 2017
@@shanegiorgio4713 I think the fe characters would have longer voice clips for grunts. For example the dialogue would say “Alright everyone, let’s go forth and make a way through this path.” While the grunt would say “I’ll fight for my friends.” Whereas another character like Peach would just giggle.
I agree with you, I really hope the next game they have a subspace emissary type story mode with cool interactions
Sakurai doesn't want to work on Smash anymore, that's why he worked to hard on making the characters to the point where he even got to set himself a home office to work on the smash reveals and to pretty much livestream from home, probably the next Smash if they actually make a new one will be even smaller because Nintendo will not get Sora, Banjo and many other non Nintendo IPs on it again, you know negotiations for those characters will not be easy, specially with Disney involved.
@@QuizMasterEntertainment Disney was fine with Sora. it was the director of the KH games that was the problem
@@DLCMan1218 Hard to say, but he mickey emblem on Sora's keyblade was probably not easy to get either
@@QuizMasterEntertainmentSakurai did all that work to get those IPs, so you're definitely right. The next Smash game will be more "Nintedo All-star" again. I don't have a problem with this personally, I'm ready for smash to move on from being mainly a product for the masses and be something focused on mainly being fun.
@@Cronalixz Couldn't have said it better, absolutely agree on it. Smash Bros is fun and basically started a whole genre, but probably it needs to be left behind, as fun as it is, it really needs a refresher to go back to the roots, less just fanservice and more just a fun pick up and play.
*Reads the title* We're getting ANOTHER Smash Bros?!
O'm pretty sure we will eventually, for a future console, in a far future.
@@Josue_S_6411 Hopefully Spyro, Shadow, Crash, Rayman, and even the Rabbids will join.
@@Josue_S_6411 2 years or less mate. Ayumi Alucard Chun Li Doomguy Crash seem likely at this point but I take Conker over Crash
@@porkhill6665
I hope for Alucard.
Was thinking the same
1:41 Buddies? Pal I only got *victims*
I love cutscenes, there are games where instead of playing them, I just watched the cutscenes on RUclips and those alone made me fall in love with the characters
I think that is the main reason why Nintendo wants to do away with the cutscenes. They want you to play those games, not watch them.
Then remove another Mario rep in his place. Because Mario has the most reps out of anything in that game. Add more Star Fox
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@cvlcek144 No Mario and his friends are perfect for Mario characters in Smash Bros games being Star Fox bomb after Star Fox Zero. So Mario characters are good besides Waluigi without Sakurai permission so only Fox, Falco, and Wolf are the only ones and no one else.
@Twilight17Petkoton Then let's add more Fire emblem reps. BS. Mario has 13 reps in the game! Legend of Zelda have 6. Star Fox has 3, Fire Emblem has 8, Pokémon has 8, these are all NINTENDO ips. There is no reason why simply because Star Fox Zero wasn't favored well (literally only because forced motion controls) should have only 3 reps when it started as one of their most popular IPs. Krystal would be insane and the most Unique, General Scales also could be a Unique option.
I strongly agree with you. Smash Bros. is a game famous for its fanservice and there is no better fanservice than an epic story with famous characters interacting with one another.
Imagine they take Super Radiant Peach from Showtime, and make it her final smash for Smash 6
That's all but guaranteed if they make another Smash.
Daisy would likely no longer be an echo fighter.
Oooh oooh, on the same vein, Fury Bowser instead of Giga Bowser for Bowser's FS
@@charleswillhite5375
Dark Pit is Pits echo
And they have a completely different final smash
Technically Smash 7
I think a part of Sakurai's hangups with the cutscenes in Brawl at least might be the different perspective that Japan has when it comes to piracy. Essentially, if you're experiencing a product in any way other than the way it's supposed to be, in this case playing the story mode and seeing the cutscenes ingame, it's considered to be piracy, and so from his perspective, having cutscenes in Smash would be an incentive for people to do it. And game developers already have to be wary of actual piracy as is.
An example of this happened in the Yugioh community recently when the Card Game Art Works artbook released, which contained a large amount of concept artwork that had never been shown to the public until then. People who posted pictures of the newly revealed art, or even made fanart based on details that were only revealed through it were being hounded to delete their posts because they were "pirating" the artbook by showing parts of it online. There's even some cases where a new card gets revealed on the official Japanese website, and people theorycrafting combos get hounded to delete their posts for showing that same image of the new card because of the "unauthorized reproduction is prohibited" watermark.
Yeah someone isn't leak about Smash 6 and someone is paying the piece on doing a leak they shouldn't do it but they regret it hard.
1:42 "All you can do is fight your buddies with them!" Bro it's a fighting game 💀
I mean, if it’s that big of a deal of them leaking, just don’t include them on the version 1.0 product. Download the cut scenes with a day one patch and there we go.
Exactly they should include cutscenes in a patch update. Even if they were a demo just have only one cutscene and that’s it.
And also YT allows bots to detect copyrighted material so idk why they don’t just do that and block them globally?
If it is not going to have them anyways in a sense, they may as well do so, yeah?
I am not FOND of the idea, but if it shall for Nintendo to DO something cool again.
Sakurai's argument (or at least one he's shared before) is that the cutscenes will leak from the final game (before or after launch) onto the internet, and therefore the average consumer will not have to purchase and play XYZ game in order to see it's cutscenes, which are usually a rather expensive portion of game development, particularly in the case of cinematic, pre-rendered cutscenes, which are usually among the most prominent aspects of games to garner tons of feature length compilation videos across the internet. (See the amount of channels with playlists or 13 Hour long videos showcasing every single cutscene in Xenoblade 3's main story alone.)
In-engine cutscenes tend to be comparatively simple and inexpensive to produce in terms of animation,* (VA's and other additions will still cost money if applicable) but Smash doesn't really have any of those. The closest example would be the victory animations, Which Sakurai has never lamented to seeing spread online, or at least not to a degree strong enough to abstain from producing them in future projects.
* - Although not exclusively. (i.e. Xenoblade 3 again. In all those 13 hours of highly-posited and impressive cutscenes, only a very small amount of them are fully pre-rendered.)
then 20 years down the line if someone wants to get the used game and play it, they end up getting an incomplete game that they can't easily get the downloads for because the console would be out of service.
It's incredible how in the subspace emissary there is little to no dialogue but you can still tell how the characters are reacting and thinking
Because the story itself is just a series of reactionary story telling. There's no philosophy behind any of it.
Cutscenes were a reward on N64 and GameCube era.
But after that, it was too much.
ADD SMASH RUN BACK!
Add new maps, custom settings (time, enemies, layouts, etc) and new features (what if characters could run into each other and fight to steal their points, or even team up?)
I'll take this to be honest
Agreed
Hard agree 👍🏽
He's probably trying to perserve his health: less cutscenes, less time he's being overworked
Sakurai isn't painstakingly animating and modeling every character, I dunno why people are attributing everything to him and not the hundreds of people doing most of the work.
Honestly just put Waluigi in the game as a fighter and the internet breaks. It would sell amazing just because he's in it
@@opadripof course he has help with a lot of it, but it's almost been blatantly shown he's in charge of a INCREDIBLE amount of it and has to test by himself. Characters, networking and getting licenses (whatever you call that process) is done by him. Nintendo characters aside, that's A LOT more work just to jam more of them in the game.
@@FallenFlame6666
I have a feeling people will either: overreact like you said, or strangely not care at all..which happened too many times when creators actually make something people asked for😅
I think there are ways around filling your story mode with nothing but cutscenes. You could still have a few, fully animated cutscenes, but have most of the interactions by via text (possibly text read outloud), like in Fire Emblem & Kid Icarus: Uprising. We could also use a lot more in-game cutscenes as well (like the animations that play before boss fights). They don't require as much time and budget as fully animated cutscenes and could still give us some character interactions
I COMPLETELY agree with that.
Another thing to think about is that for Brawl specifically, watching all the cutscenes also leaked the rest of the roster that, at the launch of the game, we didn't know who all made the cut and who was added in as far as hidden characters were concerned. Yeah some people probably leaked the roster beforehand, but seeing the cutscenes and gameplay on RUclips showed definitive proof as to who was finalized in the game. Nowadays, especially for Ultimate, Sakurai himself revealed every single character up to a month before the release, so the cutscenes in a hypothetical Subspace-like Adventure mode would just be interactions and story-related spoilers vs being essentially the Character reveals. So there'd be a lot less pressure to spoil yourself watching the scenes online anyways cause you wouldn't be itching to know what characters you'll unlock.
How about we could’ve gotten a DLC story mode
Mario Vs Link in the beginning
Inklings at Inkopolis watching
Inkling team up with Mario Link
Luigi in Dracula castle king boo captured Daisy Luigi team up with Simon and richter
Isabelle team up with snake
All fire emblem characters
Counterpoint: the Smash Dojo website at the time was revealing Brawl's roster that you could spoil yourself with with a few clicks of the mouse. Sakurai's exclusively having a problem with the cutscenes.
@@GrayAndGrey I'm saying at the time, the Dojo didn't have the hidden characters shown. We didn't know for sure about ROB or Lucario or that Mewtwo was cut, etc. And I'm saying Sakurai should realize why people were so eager to watch the cutscenes online back then vs now. Back then they got to see who is in the game. Now it'd just be the story alone as they'd know who is in.
Sakurai has been so persistent on this matter for the past SIXTEEN YEARS that I was terrified that he might get rid of Giga Bowser entirely because there were mods for standalone playable Giga Bowser.
"I gave you the ability to play as Giga Bowser for seven to ten seconds, and that just wasn't enough for you. I am pleased to announce that Giga Bowser will never appear in a game again, you ungrateful chuds."
There is one way I know of to stop leaks from happening... The Game Awards, because who were the only DLC fighters of Smash that weren't leaked prior to their reveal? Joker and Sephiroth, the two fighters who were revealed at the game awards. I have a speculation that the game awards have some kind of secret power over their reveals that prevent them from being leaked, or something like that
Sakurai’s worst mistake will be not bringing back Piranha Plant. PLEASE KEEP THE PLANT
Yes i agree
PLANT GANG! RISE UP!
Piranha Plant my beloved.
YEES PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS
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there's an easy work around it
make the reveal trailers story mode cutscenes without telling us they're also cutscenes in the game
(the part where the scene is leading up to the gameplay clips and the post gameplay part)
anyway I honestly would like a new proper Smash Bros story mode
it doesn't need to be a Subspace 2, but something in that direction would be nice to see :3
I'm sure if you put all the Smash Bros character reveals together, you can make a interesting story out of it
...sure it might need some aditional cutscenes, to show the boss and stuff, but it could probably work...if done well
Sakurai said that he thinks cutscenes are rewards, so i think a cool idea would be to have a movie mode like in ultimate, but you have to complete the story mode first to get it.
That is exactly how Subspace worked.
How tf is Sakurai a Persona 5 fan, but gets impatient at cutscenes. 80% of that game is cutscenes
Super Smash Bros. Evolution could be a working title for Smash 6. I can imagine a freeroaming open-world game mode that pays tribute to all the various Nintendo game universes. Essentially, a 3D Metroidvania mode that anthologizes every major Nintendo franchise.
What about... Disney Battle Royale? A Smash Bros inspired game like MultiVersus, for 100 years of nostalgia, memories and thanks
The better alternative to Wish
It was “leaked” a while ago, but we haven’t heard much about it since.
@@Jujan04Probably because Disney doesn’t want their characters punching each other in the face or using guns. I’m pretty sure that’s the whole reason we have Speedstorm
No
What does this have to do with Nintendo?
Leaks are so much more harm than their worth
On one hand your more informed, but on the other it takes way the magic of feeling surprised. It sucks sometimes.
The “cutscenes as a reward” tracks, because the one franchise Sakuri worked on in the past was Kirby, and in instances throughout this franchise, some cutscenes do feel like a reward for when you beat an ultra hard mode/boss rush campaign. It definitely makes sense from that point of view, but yea: I get what you’re saying here; that cutscenes are just a part of the game. And not every game is a Kirby game.
Still, you right about that first part.
I think the best case scenario for a story mode in a future Smash game would be bringing in the Mario and Luigi team after Brothership, the Mario and Luigi games always portrayed the Mario characters perfectly and having an entire separate team working on just the story and cutscenes would let it be even more epic than subspace without taking time away from the gameplay devs.
Does anyone have a timestamp for wen Nin10dolan gets to his point?
I mean, I kinda get where Sakurai is coming from, he and the rest of the Brawl developers wasted years perfecting the surprise that were gonna be the Sub-Space Emmisary cutscenes and he wanted to see how we would react when the game finally got released only for the surprised to be spoiled thanks to a leak, it must have hurt them to see their surprise spoiled like this. Is like preparing a surprise birthday party for a friend but he learns about it somehow, the surprise is spoiled and the moment is ruined.
Everyone: Subspace emissary was amazing, we loved it!
Sakurai: How DARE you. We'll never make that again.
I want Dixie Kong, I think Sakurai hates her.
N-n-no... Cutscenes?
Sakurai needs to rest man. I think we can live without another smash bros game.
He ain’t that old bro he can come out of retirement once in a while to make a game or two and he doesn’t have to work himself to death like he did with melee and brawl
He dont need no rest my man he needs to make the next game.
You're right, he's almost solely making them by himself at this point
@@redlord5892 please touch grass
@@SuperMetalyrics
Sarcasm, yeah?
8:22 “I can’t believe people think it’s just done” same here! Literally makes no sense for Nintendo and their greedy hands to just not continue a franchise like this
Sakurai is a great guy, he's basically a _genius_ of game design... But its infuriating how petty he can be sometimes. He refused to have in-game cutscenes just because they were leaked online, and he drastically altered the gameplay from Melee to Brawl just because he hated how people were being competitive with it.
Not to mention that time he said that he was the ONLY person who could make Smash Bros... That still to this day really bothers me, because it spits in the face of so many talented developers and designers that make fan-content and mods who do AMAZING jobs making Smash Bros. feel like Smash Bros... I mean, fans made an entire moveset for WALUIGI of all characters, and Sakurai never did _that._
He also really hates sequels for some reason.
The worst part is that it’s not limited to the creators of fan content; it’s also an insult to the devs of the official games. No one with any understanding of how games are made thought that Smash has ever been a solo project.
Of course, this isn’t even getting into other interpretations of his statement, none of which are favorable.
@@Dukurow Yeah exactly
Just a quick question. Didn't Masahiro Sakurai say smasl ultimate was the last smash bros to be made and that its the end? Or will there actually be a even newer smash bros?
Didn't Sakurai say he wouldn't be working on any more Smash games?
he's said that every time since melee
We need custom moves back
Don’t they have the options to not let people to stream or upload footage of the game? I think they did that with persona 5 which you couldn’t show anything passed a certain point.
I agree with sakurai, subspace was so mid and has been overhyped by the internet since forever.
Definitely it was a wise move not to do cutscenes. Sakurai choose to focus on getting guest characters to truly make Smash Ultimate. I only wish it had rollback netcode.
We could’ve gotten some DLC bosses and returning bosses- DJ Octavio Rayquaza Arceus Porky Statue Ultra Necrozma Ellfis
DLC stages and returning stages : rainbow road 3DS fossil falls calamity Gannon castle Inkopolis any stage from Splatoon 3 another dimension traveling stage Alola of 4 island bowser castle ice ice outpost PAC -maze
I still wish we got a dlc that had all 16 of the missing stages.
I can't believe I just got click baited
Tbh world of light felt like a poor man's DND
There is literally 0 chance the next smash game cuts the roster at all or even refines any of the characters other than balance patches. After the ULTIMATE smash game I feel like the only thing they’re gonna do with it is add new party modes, maybe a new story mode and make WOL not butt, and then add extra dlc down the line. Next smash game is ultimate deluxe and I’d put money on that
Not on topic, but i always liked your outro music and i didnt realize it was pikmin until i just started pikman 3 yesterday lol!
Cutscenes should be a reward for not being on TikTok
nah, i want 100 characters, remove steve, hero, terry, and kazuya.
GIVE US BACK BOARD THE PLATFORMS GOOD GOD PLEEEASE
I wish Smash just had a proper online ranked mode
I kinda get Sakurai's perspective.
Whats the point of going through the process of hiring animators and effort of rendering cutscenes if people are going to just spoil them online like whole milk?
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I was lucky enough to go into subspace emissary completely blind.
Maybe it’s going to be like it could’ve been a DLC story mode when the Subspace Emmisary returns with 3DS and Wii U fighters and ultimate fighters
What's the point of extra effort? I'm with the presenter of this video. If you're not going to give us a Subspace story at least give us more modes. What's the point of all these characters if they're just samey? I agree. Don't do cutscenes or Subspace. Fine. But where's Board the platforms, Race to the Finish, customizable movesets, customizable stages, ORIGINAL Break the Targets, instead of generic ones, Boss Rush Mode, Coin Launcher, Lottery, etc.? I could keep going. Oh wow. We got Steve from Minecraft and Banjo and Kazooie, but lost everything else. Hooray. This is CLEARLY Ultimate.
@@Nick-up5wv imagine if they kept smash run.
@@EyeofKoruption I'd like that.
@@Nick-up5wvWe actually have custom stages, if you're not even playing the game I don't know why you're complaining about it.
I definitely agree! I think as kids, Subspace was so cool because we got to see all our characters together in actual story mode and when world of like showed us that initial trailer, we thought we would be getting that with more characters and even voice acting. So it's definitely unfortunate that he's against this, and it almost makes us want someone else to direct the game who isn't afraid of leaks. I do think Ultimate should be the final game with a big roster because I know it definitely takes a lot of third party support to do this, but if we weren't able to get a story mode due to copyright, then I would rather get a reboot that only focuses on newcomers and giving us a cool story mode to enjoy. By now, there's been a lot more Nintendo characters that can be added and other characters that deserve spotlight. With fewer third parties, we can get more first parties that people have been asking for, like Waluigi, Geno or give us new characters like Impa from Age of Calamity or Akira from Astral Chain.
I trust sakurai
I can see cutscenes as a reward after a tough portion of the game. it's a nice way to cool down and feel great. That said as someone who like story based games I do think cutscenes are more essential than people who think they are just extra content that make games too much like movie would lead to you to believe.
Sakurai is lowkey biased against the Kirby series post his departure. He seems to only include content from games he was involved in
Ikr and his little pedophile fan base will try to come to his defense but hey look at it this way Kirby is doing much better without him
I think people are getting too mad at Sakurai for not including cutscenes because they're being leaked and not nearly mad enough at the people that are leaking and ruining the story for everyone
Exactly. Sakurai stated that he puts a lot of effort into those and wants people to experience the craft while playing the game. But if no one is gonna really give credit where credit is due and go "cool hype cutscene." Then just give them the game with less, I'm sure a leak like that is sufficient enough for them since that's what they "want."
For anyone that says Smash Brawl is bad, it’s too bad it’s too “casual” for you.
Google confirmed that its actually just SSBU Deluxe, not smash legends. New characters, new stages, new music, and possibly new DLC
Proof?
You can google it yourself
@@dylanocampo9430 👍
I googled it and the top sources were from Fantendo and Fanon. These are not official confirmations.
I know people will disagree with me but he has a fair point, things get leaked all of the time and spoilers are the worst thing for games in my opinion. If I made something and it got leaked in any capacity, I would be broken and it's not like he is wrong and as for you saying just ignore them, it's not as simple as that. You either go away from the internet or see all these leaks, leaks are everywhere and no matter what, you're going to get spoiled for them, even looking at something as simple as the thumbnail can have you be looking at a leak because of how thumbnails are like nowadays. With this in mind, I actually agree with Sakurai with this
I can confirm this because y bought some games and as i was on RUclips the video that appeared had the ending boss in my screen and even as far as showing a New form to a important characther i was like oh well... so i think y understand sakurai he worked so Hard with his team just for this exiting plot points to get spoiled online back then when the Internet wasnt a big deal it was a Huge surprise to me when i seen Sonic and snake made it in the game and yes i didnt check the box in the back lol
Nah it’s a stupid excuse for just being too lazy to do a Subspace Emissary again. Everything gets leaked online in the age of the internet so by that dumb logic might as well not make the game at all because it will be leaked.
@@MadMax-ii8gq People have emotions, it's reasonable to get upset if anything gets leaked. It doesn't matter if it's common, just because it is does not make it any better.
@@TheGreatPM1Yet it’s unreasonable and stupid to say the content just shouldn’t be included because of a leak. As he said in the video if they applied that logic to gameplay leaks as well there just wouldn’t be a game.
Even if I agree with Sakurai's perspective, it doesn't mean he should nuke the possibility of a single player mode like it completely. The levels helped us newcomers understand the characters better and Subspace Emissary wasn't fully leaked until after the game was released. Smash Bros needs more unique single player modes.
What I'd love to see along with something like Subspace, is actual Modes based off of franchises and they choose 10 for mostly single player. Like how about experiencing worlds of Pokemon, Sonic, Megaman, Metroid, ect and you do various battles and interactions with other characters that fans really wanna see. Instead of generic stuff like Multi Man bs, fight a dozen other Pokémon, Robot Masters and Mavericks, Shadows from Persona, ect and maybe even have them be allies.
It's another reason why Subspace was liked, due to representation shown in it, but my idea is like a mix of Adventure, Classic and Smash Run, but more specified to one series at a time instead of randomly throwing them in (kinda like they did fkr Spirit Board DLC). They can take an All Star Mode approach to it but I recommend that they experiment
It would be really cool for a Subspace Emissary sequel or remaster for smash bros ult. or the next smash bros, I loved the smash bros brawl story mode that is my childhood and that is honestly the most I want from Nintendo, that is my dream to come true, if it's possible I will the the happiest man ever.
I loved Subspace Emissary for the interactions in cutscenes. I liked the Adventure Mode from Melee for the mix of having a character in a world that wasn't the one they were in in the first place. I wished Smash Bros Ultimate and 4's interactions were more than just matches.
Sakurai isn't even doing smash bros games anymore right? Wasn't that the whole reason he also started his channel, because he retired from game development? Could def be wrong tho.
Yeah! Nobody is bringing it up and it’s confusing me lol
Stories are a great part of games with these many characters. Just look at how many fan comics we have to read.
What we really need for the next Smash Bros:
-More Star Fox, Metroid, Earthbound, Kirby, Sonic, Mega Man characters because for some of them they didn't get any newcomer since Brawl except some who finally got something like the Metroid serie in Ultimate with Ridley and Dark Samus so, at least, somes new characters from Metroid who isn't Samus herself with or without armor so it nice to finally have two bad guys since there was just her since Smash 64 and that we still didn't have any new Zelda characters since Brawl like Volga, Zant, Fi, Midna, Revali or anyone else who isn't another Link itself.
-No more newcomer about Mario, Pokemon and Fire Emblem because we get too much for them with the fact that most of the FE characters look like too much similar whatever if it the design or the moveset so they end up to be a waste a space and time for the Smash Bros game while somes others characters from Nintendo deserve better such Star Fox, Earthbound, Metroid and more but if Nintendo is too lazy for add new characters for their others franchises, they better to not add a newcomer for those 3 which are overrepresented or maybe remove somes of them who are useless and too similar to somes others characters like Pichu and Lucario or Mewtwo and Ike, Roy or Chrom because we are all agreed that it's called "Super Smash Bros", not "Super Smash Mario, Pokemon and Fire Emblem Bros" with a lot of favoritism toward those.
-More new fresh stage because Ultimate suffer a lack of new stage who isn't from a old Smash Bros game stage port to Ultimate despite in previous Smash game it was more new stage and less old stage be back.
-A good story mode with a lot of good cutscene like the Subspace Emissary mode in Brawl so not something like Ultimate about there is just a intro and somes ending and that all.
If they manage to fullfit those goals or, if they can't do everything, if they just add more Metroid and finally more Star Fox characters in it and with the Banjo & Kazooie return, then I think I gonna be interested again for the Super Smash Bros serie because, to be honnest, it's been a while I didn't play Smash Bros Ultimate since the game have lost my attention with the fact that 2 years ago I was back in Super Smash Bros Brawl and end up to mods the game on my own since it was more easy on my side to mods Brawl than Ultimate and I don't hide I get more fun in Brawl than Ultimate by notice some issue in Ultimate like corpse who disappear few seconds later in stamina mode unlike Brawl which you can hit the corpse on ground without it disappear after wait few seconds and that the animation of the characters who flying in background if he get KO from air have one chance on two to not work in Ultimate unlike Brawl who always work.
And, with the fact that I can finally create my own characters in Smash Bros Brawl by myself, I don't hide my own personalized game is more fun than Ultimate itself as I can have somes good characters who would never appear in a Smash Bros game such Skylanders, Digimon, Transformers and more characters as a Echo characters in Brawl so they better to not fail the next Smash Bros game because I think Ultimate was half good and half bad so it's good but it could have be better than that so if the next Smash Bros game fail to attract me, it will not be a issue for me to stay on Brawl since the modding community on it is still alive so one new Smash Bros game missed isn't so bad.
And this is why so many people want a new dev team for the next Super Smash Game so other series who hasn't gotten new fighters since Brawl can actually get new fighters that aren't over saturated with clones at best "echo fighters" should become assist trophies slash bosses that gives Kirby the copy ability of the fighter they echo off of.
No duh you'll find the version you created to be superior that's called Creator Bias
@@jonadams2741 Given the circumstances, it would be the best course of action.
Once again, you're challenging Nintendo to rebalance the roster with no clones. NINTENDO, HIRE THIS MAN! But seriously, fire emblem needs to be cut down. So I could see marth ike robin and Byleth returning with a newcomer, alear gaining powers from cut fire emblem reps. On the pokemon side, I could see pikachu, lucario, and greninja returning as they are very popular pokemon, alongside the new pokemon trainer from legends arceus wielding cyndaquil, dewott, and decidueye, and grovyle based on mystery dungeon. As for the Super mario reps. The must-haves are mario bros, peach, and daisy (if they make daisy different from peach). Bowser and junior. And newcomer paper mario, as he'd be different from mario.
Sonic needs more reps like tails, knuckles, shadow, and eggman. Kirby needs more reps like Bandana dee and marx. Zelda needs more reps like the champions, skull kid, and ghirahim. Xenoblade chronicles need Noah and mio. Splatoon needs dj octavio. F zero needs blood falcon and black shadow. Pikmin needs the protagonist from Pikmin 4.
Street fighter needs chun li. Final fantasy vii needs tifa, and the supposed smash reboot needs okami, puyo puyo, murasame castle, legendary starfy, and golden sun. I could go on, but it'd take too long. Besides, I'll let you talk about the franchises i haven't mentioned. (Because I haven't played them outside the NSO online service) Once again, it's nice to see someone passionate about Smash roster rebalance!
@@PoyoWildHookyRestCakeRokuYon It's not even Nintendo but ok? I'm not afraid to call out Sakurai if he's not talented enough to do anything new in terms of moveset's I mean theirs a reason Kirby is more successful without him, a lot of Smash Fans has com to terms Sakurai can't rebalance a roster without clones, Nintendo would need a new director focusing on Nintendo's big 7 in term of Newcomers with new original movesets maybe even retool or fully update the older fighters
Nintendo's big 7
#1.Super Mario/Mario Party & Spin offs
#2.Legend of Zelda
#3.Pokemon
#4.Kirby
#5.Metroid Prime + Star Fox & F-Zero
#6.Animal Crossing
#7. Pikmin
My first exposure to Smash was from an emulated N64 version that my brother downloaded into the family computer. I was around 6-7 years old at the time and I was HOOKED to that game, So when I first saw Brawl cutscenes years later I was like "Wait, it's that game but look so much better!! I want to play it" I showed my brother the cutscenes too and he was also as excited as me to the point that when Smash 3DS came out, he bought it day one and we would take turn playing it since we only have one 3DS.
So yeah, Brawl cutscenes was the thing that make me a fan of the series along with my brother. He even bought Ultimate on day 1 and play with me too.
Not again!!!
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You’re in more places than quagsire
I still hate the fact that ultimate forces you to complete the world of light just in order to change the main menus theme.
I don't think that the Smash series is really a story-driven game, it's just a fighting game for you to play with friends. The story mode was just that, an extra mode.
I believe that the reason why fans care so much about having a story mode with cutscenes in Smash is because they love seeing all of these various iconic characters who come from different franchises officially interact with each other in some manner and have some kind of relationship. Smash is also a crossover so naturally people value some form of character interaction in crossovers. It’s a good reason why crossovers tend to be special and very exciting for many. Even without a story mode, the character reveal trailers at least allow for the characters to interact with each other.
Well, when it's the same game over and over with a few extra people popping up eventually it becomes pretty tough justifying the 50$ price tag outside of hype for a character they prior were playing hard to get with...
Well there are people that really like the extra modes. Like what the guy in the video said, there needs to be other stuff in the game besides the main game mode.
I never wanted a new smash bros game
Hey, I understand the anguish to a good extent, but considering this is public, you're just misinforming people by repeatedly putting words in Sakurai's mouth, and that's not cool.
I thought smash ultimate was supposed to be the last one?
I think Sakurai is just giving his opinion, meaning his games wont have cutscenes, no, the games will have cutscenes, idk why he says BIG MISTAKE, is just a opinion, what he thinks cutscenes need to be. In the end smash bros will have cutscenes no matter what he says.
The only thing it will be imposible is a story mode with the characters of other games outside Nintendo, i know sega/konami and others will gladly accept be part of that, but others companies wont do it, specially Disney or other big gaming studio, they will ask for more money or % for doing that. Also they will want some control over what their characters will do if they are going to be in a story mode, to not break character.
"not to break character" Disney have a weird way with that stuff
This is why I think letting someone else take on development wouldn’t be so bad
Sakurai is amazingly talented but he is bitter about brawl to no end
Sakurai made a big amazing story for kid Icarus uprising so I’m disappointed he’s not treated smash the same way
Are you doing a video talking about how people are mad that Emio isn’t a new IP, but a new installment in Famicom Detective Club?
I tried watching the new emio video but it said it was “age restricted”
@SonicTheBlueBlur15, it's for people above 18 only. All videos with characters from media that is rated 18s is going to be age restricted, no matter how bad it really is. As long as the game is in the video, it is age restricted.
People hyped and gaslit themselves thinking it was something new entirely. Granted, I was one of them, too, but you don't see me complaining that it's a sequel to some old franchise like everyone else.
I just, it's a borderline point and click game, and the way they teased it definitely made it feel like a horror game, I feel lied to
The first two Famicom Detective Club games are supposedly very good, and you could say the Switch remakes are new IP's in the west. Those who love Famicom Detective Club are certainly not mad about Emio being part 3 in the series.
I guess it's time to quit making games since those are leaked too
We need shadow in smash
I like Shadow. But I think Tails, Knuckles and Eggman need to get in first as I would say they're more important than Shadow. No offense.
Ngl. If there is a dream I always had was to have a Sonic and Shadow playable so I can use them in a team battles.
Similarily, I always wanted to have a 2v2 battle: Mario and Luigi Vs. Wario and Waluigi.
It would be such an iconic battle.
On the side note, I could do then Mario and Luigi Vs. Sonic And Shadow, akin to SMBZ reference.
I agree with you @@retrogamermax8287
@@deoxysandmew2162 yes imagine recreating smbz in smash
No. He would probably be a clone of Sonic, and that would not only be lame but a waste of moveset potential.
The closest thing to scratch the itch of subspace has been slap city. So much silly fun.
If you do a crossover, but these wildly different characters don't interact with each other, then what's even the point?
The cutscenes from Subspace were magical.
Sakurai though the same thing, until he realize that people don't care how magical they are and they rather have it Leaked rather then experience it through playing, so what was the point for all that work?
@@axelarias3067 What’s it like being a Sakurai apologist?!
@@manlysoutherner3696 I wouldn't know how it feels coming from a bigger Sakurai apologist.
@@axelarias3067 🤦🏻♂️
The point is that they do interact by fighting each other through gameplay. It's a game not a movie.
You know if they make a new smash game I just pray that they don’t add Edge, Kanya, Rabbid Peach and Midnite
If you know Mario +Rabbids Sparks of Hope you know who I’m talking about 😅
I don’t think they’d add Kanya or Midnite because they’d probably add a playable hero from the game before adding a villain, but how come you don’t want Sparks of Hope characters? What’s wrong with them?
@@MatthewWeinberg-lr6kv I have some nickpicks about it and yeah. Not really good reasons but if anything a few are like theories about the sequel if they would ever make one. Hopefully they do I did liked the game.
But edge, Kanya ad midnite are amazing characters.I can agree with rabbid peach tho but the others are still important characters.
@@lightninggear0131 Important how? I mean, during 2022 and I guess 2023 they were. The internet got plagued with edits of those characters.
@@DanBrand99 They didn't lose value over time.I played mario + rabbids Sparks of hope just a few months ago and I really love the characters and I will love to see them appear in more games. maybe even a smash bros game
Cut scenes, or even quick-time events within cutscenes. I think those are really engaging but I also just love cutscenes with interactions between some really rare characters I think extra portions added to the story with DLC characters would bring in more sales as well.
Amazing Video!!!!!!!!!!
One thing I think would be fantastic on a number of levels would be dynamic in-engine cutscenes for Smash, where the same story events play out a little differently depending on which characters you're using. That would be a lot of work but would pay off in terms of being rewarding and harder to spoil entirely online
8:24 I don't think people think it won't happen... cause it's Nintendo, it's more a question of should it happen or not. Ultimate would be the perfect end to the franchise, Sakurai has said time and time again he wants to quit Smash Bros, he did after Melee, then Brawl was announced so he came back to make sure it was done right, then he wanted to quit after Brawl... but then didn't so on so forth. Smash is his baby, he doesn't want Nintendo to just take the reins and possibly ruin it, especially now with DLC and microtransactions and all sorts of scummy things existing for companies to take advantage of gamers. He didn't have to work on Ultimate at all, he's high enough the food chain he could have sipped margaritas on some beach while still being paid. He insisted though, being there for every little detail of Ultimate's creation. To the point he hooked himself up to an IV because as much work as he's done in the past on Smash entries it made him sick, so he did the IV to avoid that (because that is a major problem in Japan in general, over working, possibly even the main cause for Iwata's stomach cancer, constantly getting sick, over working his body by overworking as a game dev and then later Nintendo's president).
Either Sakurai quits, and Nintendo does what they want, possibly ruining and taking advantage of this big IP and their fans, or the series ends, that's the 2 outcomes. Personally I agree with the latter, Ultimate is a good note to end on, my favorite gaming characters aren't here so I can't personally say everyone is here, but... I can't complain either because I still enjoyed the time I had. If I want Subspace I can go back and play it, or Melee's adventure mode for a simpler story that's also good (I liked the idea of World of Light... but yeah not that execution, WAAAAAAY TO LONG AND BIG with just more of the same before any story progress is actually made).
If Smash Bros ends, I wouldn't complain, or going as simple as possible let's remake Smash 64 but with newer things. Let's add new items, new Pokeball Pokemon, assist trophies, final smashes, some more modern characters, I'm good. Then moving along Melee do the same, especially recently getting into Akari build that has Sonic, Charizard, and Wolf to name a few that weren't in initial Melee. Making more modernized versions of older smashes, while keeping their simplicity, I'd be fine with that going forward, then when it's Ultimate's time for a remake, just more characters and stages that didn't exist in Ultimate. Insert Gen 15 Pokemon starter, insert future Link and Zelda, Waluigi, Shadow the Hedgehog, just build on the existing roster.
6 can't do that, the amount of money and licensing, like not even Disney was the big issue with Sora, that was primarily on the game company that owns it Square Enix. Why Final Fantasy has very little representation too. I mean sure Disney pulled some reins, why we won't see Goofy, Donald, or Mickey in smash bros, Darth Vader, Indiana Jones, Iron Man, etc Disney owned properties, but adding Sora allows them to sew seeds in other departments. Sora and Snake would be the most difficult to return, to some extent Cloud and Sephiroth also being owned by square, by extension guess that means Simon and Richter too since Konami owns them and Snake.
A Smash 6 by no means will be as good as Ultimate, it's set up to fail because Ultimate is a set peak, the only way to beat that is to add more and go higher... but that's going to be next to impossible especially because of certain companies with their IPs. Even some Nintendo characters I could see not returning despite it being ya know Nintendo. Right off the bat do we need Pokemon Trainer with Squirtle and Ivysaur? Especially when Charizard does fine on its own if not better in Smash 4. Pichu I'm sure no one would cry over... me a little bit because it's fun to troll lol, young link though I definitely would especially being a representation of older Link play styles and disliking BotW Link's play style. That or would they up the echo fighters? I don't mind, good way to sneak in some like Daisy, but could see it getting out of control and rampant, over reliance on it.
Everyone has a favorite character, and every character is viable in the right hands. Would you really want to toss them out? Especially for a story driven Smash bros, when you could insert certain comedic things in there, like Chrom running into Lucina and Marth, Pikachu trying to help Pichu control its electricity better maybe protecting it from a boss fight. Mario running into Dr Mario, wait what? What's going on? confusing Luigi and Peach, maybe Mario is captured by Bowser then completely taken aback because Dr Mario saves him. Every character could have value for story or competitive purposes. Dr Mario is a tank, he's heavy, slow, but that makes him durable and a hard hitter, while base Mario is a well rounded jack of all trades character.
All this into account... do we really want a Smash 6?
Yeah
Why he even still making a new smash game
Smell like he's still butthurt about that leak.
Then I guess yall were butthurt about no cutscenes?
@@axelarias3067 I can live without them. Smash 64 had like 3 at most.
The next smash game should just be one big story mode with new fighters that can Carrey over to smash ultimate.
Sakurai needs to stop being old
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The cutscenes is what made people talk about the games still till this day. If a new Smash Bros ever come out, I hope I see more cutscenes as well. And for the people that doesn't like looking at them, Sakurai should give us the option to skip the cutscenes.
I Really hope that either Rillaboom, MeowScarada, or possibly fully evolved grass starter of gen 10 joins next smash game/smash ultimate deluxe port as we never gotten a fully evolved grass starter in smash bros as a fighter for once and plus both Decidueye and Rillaboom sadly didn't join both base game and paid fighter pass dlc that fighter pass vol 3 didn't get made.
One way to have a subspace emmissary successor without the problems of cutscenes is a possible tv show. You could make a recreation of subspace that gives more personality to the characters and improves parts of the plot. It would be a great way to give people what they want and fight scenes would be legendary (you also wouldn't have to worry about leaks and spoilers as much if the plot is just recreating subspace). And if people want more you can make more original stories that introduce more characters, that way characters already in smash still get hype for being in the show.
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