Explaining David Bentley Hart's "All Things are Full of Gods" (Part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- In this series, we'll attempt to distill the essential ideas and arguments from each chapter of David Bentley Hart's new book "All Things are Full of Gods."
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Can’t wait to buy this book! I’m not a Christian but DBH has given me a deeper respect and appreciation for Christianity, and religions in general.
Thanks for watching! It would be especially great to hear perspectives on this from people who do not profess to be Christian.
There is nothing explicitly Christian about this book. He does mention Christian thinkers, but he just as often talks about Indian philosophy or Neoplatonism. Great book!
Thank you so much for doing this. I always find DBH's books hard to get through but worth it. Your explanations clarified the ideas considerably.
Glad it was helpful!
Been meaning to pick this up, used this vid as a preview. The Experience of God is my favorite book, so to hear him say this is a kind of sequel has me excited.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for doing this! Really helping me to better understand and enjoy the material. (Most of it is so over my head.)
Welcome back. Have you done a review on That All Shall Be Saved? Would love to hear your thoughts on Christian universalism. DBH is so good.
I have not. The short review is, “I disagree” 😂
@@DeepTalksTheology would love to hear why haha
Started this, but stopped when you pleaded to please read first. Ordering it now. I’ll be back.
It is an interesting cultural moment between Heiser, Hart, Pageau, Vervaeke, Lewis’ Space Trilogy having its moment…all discussing, in different ways, the divine realm. But then I just finished Kaufmann’s The Religion of Israel which basically blew my mind. He couldn’t have taken a more opposite position than the previous writers. I don’t agree with him, but it was a compelling argument.
Please do come back and share your thoughts!
Thanks for doing this book review! Hart is one of my favorite theologians. I have read several of his books, “You are all Gods” being my favorite so far. I will order this one and the previous one you mentioned, and follow along with you.
I want so badly to read this book. And I'll echo what you said about The Experience of God --- it was certainly a watershed experience in my theological journey.
Have you ever read George MacDonald's sermon "The Voice of Job" from Unspoken Sermons II? One of the things MacDonald does in that sermon is attack the materialism of his day, and he does so with characteristic power and grace.
I haven’t read that MacDonald book, but I will add it to my reading list!
Bizarre after all the Hermes discussion around Vervaeke that this now comes out. I would love to see Hart & him have a conversation about it. Thanks for the video, I need help when I read Hart:)
I thought about that too
I know that in the past, a Hart/Vervake discussion was attempted. When Hart discovered the Jordan Peterson connection to Vervake he bowed out ( I understand that) . However, some time has passed and maybe another try along those lines can be attempted. Vervake doesn’t agree with much of Peterson’s dogma and yet maintains their friendship.
@RichardCosci that seems quite precious but I should not judge DBH for this.
We have tried to bring Hart and Vervaeke together, Hart wasn't interested. But maybe one day
Good stuff Paul. In min 13, summarizing DBH, you say “rational activity is the by-product of our finite participation in the infinite horizon…[13:54]” I think DBH would say rationality ‘is’ participation, which is a bit different from saying it’s a ‘by-product’ of participation. Maybe that’s all you meant as well.
Good observation. How would you understand the difference?
I love the platonic dialogue structure. It feels like the arguments are set free. Without being bogged down by all the minutiae that often accompanies more academic presentations, the arguments can be considered “on their face”. The de-centering, as you mentioned, helps with this a great deal too.
Hephaestus isn’t straw-manned (although perhaps others would disagree). I like that he is respected within the dialogue by the other participants. I did keep hearing in my head while listening, “the God of the gaps” argument I have heard often with other materialists with whom I have discussed these things.
The subjective-objective delineation and discussion helped me see things in ways I don’t think I ever have before.
It would be fascinating to see a materialist do this same thing but really pick at Psyche’s arguments in the same way as they are going after Hephaestus. Could a more convincing argument from Hephaestus be made? Who would write that?
@@DeepTalksTheology to be clear after rereading my comment, I meant Hephaestus arguments sounded a lot like the God of the gaps to me.
But it would be fascinating! I would think that it would probably need to be someone like Vervaeke, a person with his temperament and personality. Most materialists don’t respect the theist position. That makes there arguments more polemical perversions of the position. Theists do the same thing more often than not too. This all leads to another point of yours that it is surprising, (so far) Hart is doing his best to present the argument well despite his own history of aggressive attacks against materialism!
I paused at 9 mins as you noted the need to read chapter 1. I found the material exciting and tying into maby questions im pondering, and your discussion thoughful and nunaced.
Book ordered.
I think Hart owes me a commission check here 😂
Thanks for watching and for the encouraging comment!
This book sounds sick! Excited for this series. I should probably buy the book or something...
I have saved this to watch later for one of my next stories. Very interesting!
This is extremely helpful! I’ve read hart for years and wish I had a video like this before getting into all of his work.
I’m so glad to read this! This is exactly what I hoped for.
Keep this up Paul! This was great. (haven't read the book yet, but I hopefully will!)
Thank you, Sam!
Came here to watch this video, which is great, but now I want to watch some of your other videos. Some really interesting topics.
Awesome, thank you!
Well done! Keep it going!
Thank you! Will do my best!
In your own way, as brilliant as DBH himself. Happy to have found a new Hermes for the theandric vision of the cosmic liturgy!
That is far too kind. Glad you found the video beneficial!
Talk of Lewis here and what appears like soothing the pre-fears of paganphobic evangelicals is a waste of time.
Otherwise I'm loving it.
It’s hard not to hear the potential objections from the friends and family I have spent my entire life with and feel an unction to address it, but I respect your perspective.
but all things are NOT full of Gods.
this is a plain and simple fact
or would you have me think that Auschwitz was full of Gods.
After all it is a thing it exists so it comes under the rubric of ALL
all things are NOT full of Gods
end of story
The problem of evil is obviously a major challenge to Hart's perspective. If you're interested, I do have a book on the subject exploring the different Christian responses throughout time to your valid question. Just search for "Dis-Ordered" on Amazon.
Hart has a book
on the problem of evil -
the doors of the sea.
Read it
I put
Two empty lines
After every sentence
So what I said is even more true