The Lore Leading to While Guthix Sleeps | OSRS Lore
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- In today's video we go on a journey that began in the early 2000's with the start of the Mahjarrat questline, and look at what leads up to the events of OSRS' next quest, While Guthix Sleeps.
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00:00 Intro
00:36 Quest Recap
19:41 WGS IN RS3
23:37 Speculation
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Dont forget that in osrs, Lowerniel Drakan is obsessed with the stone of jas, might be a big play to differ with Rs3 storyline.
I thought I read that he was the last holder of the stone
He was, but in the quest, Sins of Our Father's, it is mentioned that he lost the stone sometime ago and became frustrated as he witnessed ascension of God hood of Zamorak.
He is also obsessed with it in RS3. Its a big storybead that through his obsession he made several close enemies. How he lost it though is not revealed.
I ended up giving the staff to Lucien, not realising that there was an alternative route I could take. Hope the NPCs won't be too hard on me.
Don't worry. Both options have him get the armadyl staff
You’re the whole reason we’re in this mess bro wtf
You have doomed us all
Tell that to duradel and hazlemere xD
YOU FOOL! You've doomed us all!
Looking forward to this quest coming out, I had a blast fighting the Desert Treasure II bosses. Even though I had bad stats.
Also: We are really, REALLY good at doing 99% of the work for someone else to teleport in and yoink the thing we worked for.
Our player is very incompetent at times..
@@Korksbebig I mean, thats true, but keep in mind we're a boring old human and we're up against all kinds of super powerful and ancient creatures, who were scheming and planning before our granddads were even conceived.
Its not so much we're incompetent, its just that the competition is just out of our league a lot of the times.
Random factoid, Desert Treasure 1 was made by a intern, who got fired for Desert Treasure 1. Originally, instead of a mysterious stranger attacking you with a Dragon dagger(p++) while carrying any of the diamonds, a Fanatical stranger would attack you. He would run up to you with the prayer Retribution turned on, yell “Allahu akbar Zamorak!” then kill himself triggering the Retribution prayer…. Yes you would be attacked by a suicide bomber. This was in 2005, less than 4 years after 9/11
Please tell me that's cap :D
@@NightcoreSKdefinitely a cap 😂.
There were some rumours on Reddit a number of years ago but no real reliable sources as no pictures or videos exist.
But I played and did the quest back then and I can tell you right now, that is 100% cap 😂.
@@rezarfar It was actually "Allah Allah Zamorak" and was confirmed by Mod Ash. As for the rest of it, I haven't seen or heard anything about a suicide bomber.
@@Euro2005mc yeah I know, which is nowhere near Allahu Akbar suicide bombing.
"It's not like he's going to stay dead" in reference to General Khazard... LOL!
And "he introduces us to Ancient Magicks... A PKers wet dream" lmfao 😂😂
Great video brotha, subscribed :D
Subbed for the rs lore. Love it mate
Great video and thanks for the recap
I think WGS will be a port of the rs3 version with minimal changes. In so far as OSRS's equivalent quest to RoTM, it will have to differ greatly as Sliske has the horn and Lucien has the Staff + Stone. The Horn has virtually no development in rs3 (it was used to create ape atoll and some eastern sirens), but it could be used to over power Lucien if Sliske can simply control him with the Horn. Alternatively, Sliske could use the horn to control the Dragonkin, forcing them to not kill Lucien.
I'm interested in what Sliske's plans are when he says "The ritual approaches once more, but things will be different this time. This will be the final Ritual of the Mahjarrat". It is true that Sliske is either aware or unaware of the ritual's true nature. To me, this denotes:
A, Sliske deems the ritual unnecessary, despite believing it to be a real natural limitation of Mahjarratt. This could mean that sliske plans to kill all the mahjarratt in order to ascend to godhood or something. If this is the case, it would most likely align with a RoTM-type battle between Sliske, Lucien, zaros-aligned, and zamorak-aligned mahjarratt.
B, Sliske understands the rituals true nature. If this is the case, I suspect there's a link between Sliske, the shadow realm, and Xao Tak. As seen in Lassar undercity, Sliske isn't affected by the shadow realm and even guides you through it. Sliske is also responsible for the spread of corruption in Lassar as he removed the protective barrier from the blackstone totem. Perhaps through Sliske's research on the shadow realm, he came to understand the true nature of Mah's birth. Through serving Xao Tak, Sliske may be attempting to kill Mah, thus ending the ritual.
Bonus meme: in DT2, Sliske says that your quest to open the vault was a test all along and that you will be a "worthy vessel". Whats the test for?
- In RS3, Sliske has known of the player since the 2nd age.
(death at sea, kindred sprits)
- "When I approached the cell I found the human inside lying on a pallet of straw. I noticed that he was not bound, but was in a filthy condition and missing his left leg and right foot. On seeing me he crawled on his belly across the flagstones and pulled himself up using the bars. What he said next was...unusual. I cannot get the words out of my mind, nor the intensity with which he spoke them; 'Do you really think you can save them, ? You can't. The spiral of time leads only to the gaping maw of eternity. And this is Xau-Tak.'"
- "? Really? Is this the key at last? I must watch and see."
- question: Is Sliske testing you in DT2 to confirm your role -- "the key" -- in demystifying Xao-Tak?
I thought he just wanted to get rid of the ritual for all of them
@@korshmeezy4974 Right, Sliske says "Do you not see 'our fate'? Over and over, we have 'our ritual'. Over and over, we doom one of 'our kind' to the endless void." -- which implies that he's doing this for the benefit of the mahjarratt as a whole, though it can also be seen as manipulation. But we obviously can't take him at his word so I would guess its in his self-interest.
I'm fully expecting time shenanigans involving Sliske and the Dragonkin. Zorgoth seems to recognize the player character (not Bob, Jagex has confirmed he was referring to the player), even though we'd never met him before. I think we may end up transported through time, and it may be revealed that we are the reason why Lowerniel lost the Stone in the first place (since the Dragonkin are the unwilling guardians of the Stone, it could explain how we crossed paths with Zorgoth).
I think Sliske manipulated everything to do with the Stone in order to break the ritual and free the Mahjarrat from the sacrifices, so they can be totally free to warmonger without worrying about whether they'll be the next one chosen. I think Jagex intends to make the Mahjarrat the more prevalent group - with Azzanadra being the more modest faction leader and Lucien being the more dangerous one
@ApexGale I thought zargoth recognized us because the player is incidentally a reincarnation of Robert's panther or whatever, but time travel stuff sounds really cool.
You got the sub dude! I have been waiting on a video like this to drop. I've beaten WGS back in 2008 and stopped playing for some time. I needed the refresher. Thanks, and I hope to catch more of your videos!
Thank you! Much appreciated, and yeah from what I heard WGS was a well loved quest when it came out so I'm excited
One interesting thing that someone else pointed out is that the stone of jaz may be the giant dodecahedron used in the moons of peril dungeon (Neypotzli) to keep the moons imprisoned, and that this is also the artifact known as the Fist of Guthix. So it might come into play, which could be interesting
it has many names. The fist of Guthix, the Eye of Saradomin, which is honestly super awesome and adds to the mystery.
Great video, gonna binge your channel now!
Welcome aboard! Much appreciated for the support
I would betray the entire falador knight order for 60k agility xp
Amen.
Actually doing the token easter egg hunt and wanted to look for lore and found your account. I'm glad to see someone else loves the lore and is interested in it as I am! Easiest sub and like
It's going to be interesting how it diverges from the rs3 timeline and whether we'll get a linked quest that explains why the timeline split
I hope Mod Ed changes his mind on this cuz I would love that to happen but he said in his mind there is no "butterfly effect" or key moment that "split" the 2 RS timelines - to him it simply is its own kind of parallel universe with some shared, some different history and its future will contain some shared and some different elements and events but no definitive moment or "turning point"
@@stretchymc5126The strange old man at barrows destroyed the icon. In RS3, you get it for Azzanadra
There already is.
Animated graphics, leagues. That is literally sliske tossing the player back through time to change the timeline.
It's time Jagex, give us the bowsword as a reward from WGS :P that wasn't just lore but comedy as well lol
End up being BiS melee and ranged aswell!
@@Gravitybind panic sell ur tbows and scythes xD
subbed for being a good dude
all the slayer masters are toast sad times
i'm excited, i never did the rs3 version
excited for the Sliske vs Lucien battle royale
one small favour for one monk. Banger
I do wonder if Ritual of the Mahjarrat will also be backported, given that its the direct sequel to this quest, and WGS was ported quite faithfully with only minor changes regarding the Dagon Hai Robes
@WH40KHero Based off what they've said in the past, RotM isn't going to be backported but they're planning their own Mahjarrat finale within Old School, which I'm looking forward to. I've read a few of the lore differences so far, but yet to experience the quest fully yet, hope you've enjoyed the quest though! Very excited about the direction it's all going
@@Gravitybind I play RS3, watched a playthrough of the Quest online.
And, given the info i got about Secrets of the North and Desert Treasure 2...yeah, the OSRS Ritual of the Mahjarrat will be very different.
Someone came across a way to fight several giant scorpions in the game before... If I have to guess what he did to find out, he headed to the desert to find some ore, then misclicked on one or two of the scorpions with magic attack induced.
This isn't lore worthy if you ask me, but is noteworthy.
Did I mention it isn't a multi attack area?
I like the Mahjaarat being depicted as skeletons. I hope they never change that.
The whole point of them looking like skeletons is that they're essentially running out of battery tho, if the ritual happens they'll get their flesh back
@@itsmeeli7463 I never knew that, very cool! I still like them as skeletons, I never cared for the RS3 look with their flesh.
Looking forward to seeing where they go with the Balance Elemental. It sounded like they had some serious plans there that led to years of talk.
So when did Persten, the ninja, and Kasonde die? Were they Sliske messing with us from whenever we met them, or did they die at some point later and he assumed their identity? The ninja is especially interesting, since he's been around since RS2 and I think he was just a man in that game.
I'm pretty certain Elias White is the Mahjarrat Wahisietel since he showed up in RS3 as Ali the Wise, an explorer. The OSRS team seems to be introducing the major Mahjarrat in the lead up to their version of Ritual of the Mahjarrat.
As for how WGS unfolds, it should focus more on Lucien since each of the Mahjarrat quests seemed to have one to two Mahjarrat at the centre of it. Temple of Ikov didn't really do much for Lucien since he's mostly a background figure you don't even realise is a Mahjarrat.
Sliske talks about saving the Mahjarrat race and in RS3 there's a big twist in which its revealed the Mahjarrat ritual where they sacrifice one of their own to rejuvenate the rest never needed to be performed, it was a ruse by Seren to keep the Elder God Mah from destroying their home world. Maybe in OSRS it was Zaros who lied to them about the ritual and he found out. That's why he doesn't want Zaros to come back because Zaros would only bring about the extinction of their race.
It could lead to Sliske working with Xau-Tak since Xau-Tak in RS3 appears to be able to go against even the Elder Gods.
I think OSRS has already kept with the lore of Seren being the one who tricked the Mahjarrat; there's a line in one of Seren's memoriam crystals (the second one) about it where she says of the Mahjarrat that she "may be able to convince them to sacrifice their energy and return it to [Mah]".
Not sure you noticed this but Wahisietel is a anagram for Ali The Wise
What if all of the grandmaster quests are leading up to the one grand finale in some way?
If sleeping is a xp waste, why is it a lunar spell called dream and giving me 82xp?
Perfect timing on this video for me since I only finished dt2 earlier today and seeing as I got the quest cape in rs3 back in the day one thing that was running through my mind was "how many of these characters will turn out to be Mahjarrat, and will Sliske make an appearance", turns out I underestimated him a little. Having finished it I will say that dt2 might be my favorite osrs quest to date.
All of these reworked rs3 quests have been great though. Sins of the father adapted Branches of Darkmeyer wonderfully and while I prefer the rs3 version, osrs song of the elves was also great.
There seems to be some very interesting twists to wgs too with Sliske doing his usual shenanigans. And even if we won't see RotM I do hope we will have something happen with the whole ritual as that was such a good scene in rs3 and if deepens the Mahjarrat story considerably. Now obviously big changes will have to happen since for one Jhallan is a completely different character here and the whole thing was leading up to the wold wakes which while being a fantastic quest, the whole world guardian, gods and Sliske plot just ruined the story (in my opinion). Some concepts I hope they bring back though, I always loved the concept of the world gate for instance, but that might just be because it's literally a stargate.
I've not played rs3 since just prior to Sliske's endgame though so maybe they managed to reel back the story somewhat.
Just wanted to say, love the name Gravity bind is a sick card, one of my favorites back in the day. Also glad you're into RS.
Used to be one of the main cards in my deck so completely agree with you!
The thing that OSRS will be different to RS3 is that the quest will play out similarly, but the end-goal will be slightly different.
In OSRS there's no active plot to bypass Guthix's Edicts (Well the plot exists, but it will be foiled every step of the way)
Sliske I wager in OSRS is fully loyal to Gielinor - And not holding a twisted bastard of loyalty between the Elder Gods and himself
I wager the OSRS is working *very* hard to not make Sliske into the Mary Sue the RS3 team made him into.
Well, given what i know about Rs3 the return of Zaros has already been foiled by him.
He did destroy the Barrows Icon afterall, which was instrumental in contacting him in Rs3, so thats one piece of the puzzle permanently missing.
Do you know what I think this is a good video
Don't forget they removed ritual of the mahrajat quest from the list replacing it with while guthix sleeps
We're deffo going rs3 lore way
Especially with the stone of jas in gotr quest and that elder artifact at perilous moons
what are you on about?
Not sure how spoiler-y content flies in these comments for those unfamiliar with rs3, but for the curious among you, as soon as I heard Elias White I immediately made a connection to an rs3 npc named Ali the Wise. No doubt they will play similar roles going forward.
The name checks out :^)
GUUUTHIIIIIIXXXXXXXXX!!!!!
While Guthix Sleeps? You mean Tears of Guthix 2?
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It was bad enough when they killed Nieve in MM2. If they kill the others in this quest there had better be a riot in Falador.
Fr though, dont wanna see my man Duradel perish
@@Gravitybind If Ghommal, Duradaddy, and the others go down I'll actually be so mad. I don't appreciate Jagex randomly killing Nieve who had been a staple character in the game for years at that time. Imagine pointlessly killing a character who has been around since 2006. If they want to do character deaths well they need to implement the character early on IN the quest chain itself. Like Bob the cat. I feel bad about Bob the cat and I liked his role in the story and character. Didn't feel like needless shock value either.
It's pronounced (slis-k) not (slis-kay)
I've heard that before from him...
uwu
The god who created everything we know and ever will know.
The third day he went to sleep because he was bored out of hes mind.
He created a dream that was so realistic he would forget everything he had ever known.
Thinking that the dream was reality and aslong he doesn't wake up he doesn't even know he is a god.
Why do games always steal them old stories just one on one, they don't even try to hide it in anyway.
Jagex the worst game designer to have ever walked this earth.