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It's funny how I haven't seen any of these radiator systems for over 10 years in modern homes. As a matter of fact it's hard to find a new bellows nowadays from home depot or even wholesale outlet stores anymore.
Modern heating systems work with about 40 degrees celsius max and are way more efficient and comfortable. As a german engineer I sometimes wonder how people overseas are able to waste these tremendous amounts of energy - this is one tiny piece of the puzzle named „Ancient Technologies“ 💁🏼♂️😅
You could also make the bellows bigger and more "foldy" to improve the fatuge life! I feel like there are many good solutions that are waiting to be found.
The problem with any temperature expanding piston system is containing the expansive material. Bellows systems do not need seals, and can be easily encapsulated with material that can withstand the caustic environment and extremes of temperature, while pistons require the piston, cylinder, and the piston seals be able to do the same. It is much more expensive to precision machine, then precision coat the piston and the cylinder in expensive material like chromium, and then assemble the unit with expensive seals between the piston and cylinder. A simple bellows system would cost about the same as just the seals on the piston and cylinder, and are likely to last about the same number of cycles, if not more.
There is no such thing as a single pipe system for steam heating, and even for hot water radiators, as they all have a supply and return line, even if it is in series rather than parallel. There is a limit to the number of radiators that can be ran in series on a single loop, as the water is losing heat at each radiator, and the water has to be hot enough to radiate heat at each radiator. With steam systems, they need to return the condensed steam, known as condensate (water), back to a boiler to be heated again into steam. A properly designed system will send steam to the radiator, where it will give off its energy to the room, condense, then return to the boiler. If steam returns to the boiler, it causes problems, as steam is a gas, and gasses are much harder to manage and heat, while water is very simple to heat to a boiling. Imagine trying to get moisture out of the air and heat it up, vs putting a pot of water on the stove. In a properly functioning steam radiator heating system, steam enters the top of the radiator, loses energy to the room, then condense back into water, exits the bottom of the radiator, then returns to the boiler. The steam trap is designed to stop the steam from exiting the radiator, and instead hold it there until it loses enough energy to turn back into a liquid, and then it opens to let out the liquid. This forms a simple self regulating system, as colder rooms will condense water faster, while warmer rooms will condense water more slowly, so in the warmer rooms the steam regulator will cycle more, and slow the heating process in the warmer rooms.
@@tedlahm5740 Could you please explain what your saying, as I have never seen a steam radiator heating system that did not have two ports on the steam radiators, one at the top, and one on the opposite bottom side. A "supply" side, and a "return" side. The only type of system that does not do this is steam cleaning equipment that supplies steam through a pipe or hose to blast a surface with steam in order to clean it, then the steam escapes into the atmosphere as water vapor that may very quickly condense into visible vapor. One would not want to just vent steam from a heating radiator in a home directly into the house, as that would be dangerous, it would quickly become too humid to live in, would damage the home and its contents, and would not operate very efficiently. It would be like using a stove top of boiling pots of water to heat your home. As an aside, high temperature steam lines leaks are incredibly dangerous, as super heated steam is invisible, and one can walk right into the steam without even knowing it. This is a major safety issue on ships, power plants, and factories that use super heated steam.
@@GoCoyote I've never seen a two pipe residential steam heating system. In the one pipe system there is a vent on the top, opposite the steam inlet on the bottom and it vents out air. Once the steam hits the vent and the temp rises the vent shuts keeping the steam in the radiator. These will hiss as the air is vented and you can hear them vent and stop. Some vents are quiet though, so not all will make noise. They are adjustable as well. So you can direct the steam to go more to one room or another and balance the heating via how large the vent orifice opens.
There are breakers that can be used for either AC or DC, but with different voltage ratings. As DC is more prone to arcing on disconnecting, it's lower on DC than on AC, as far as I can remember. Would be bad, if the breaker starts arcing and burning instead of breaking the circuit.
Hmm, never heard of such a thing on my radiators. But there shouldn't be any steam in radiators, right? Just hot water without any air, air inside the radiators make them noisy because of trapped air bubbles.
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My friend Jack sent this to me. For a non mechanical guy like me this was perfect. Thank you
It's funny how I haven't seen any of these radiator systems for over 10 years in modern homes. As a matter of fact it's hard to find a new bellows nowadays from home depot or even wholesale outlet stores anymore.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing! Have a great day
No worries here, with the energy prices lately we cant afford to heats anyways
Did I miss a previous video? I don't remember you posting any videos talking about how Bellows work.
You must’ve missed it.
Well he explained how they work in this video so…
This is a 3 minute video and over half of it is spent explaining how bellows work...
Yes; ruclips.net/video/MMPujD7SK4c/видео.html
That’s the one that discussed bellows. :)
Can you please do a video on accelerometers
Nice presentation. it's useful video
Modern heating systems work with about 40 degrees celsius max and are way more efficient and comfortable.
As a german engineer I sometimes wonder how people overseas are able to waste these tremendous amounts of energy - this is one tiny piece of the puzzle named „Ancient Technologies“ 💁🏼♂️😅
keep it up you are my master one day i will be like you
Great work thank yoU
How often is steam used for heating houses? First time I see such a thing
It's still used in older buildings here in America.
if they use a piston-cylinder instead of bellow, the service life of the part would be significantly boosted.
You could also make the bellows bigger and more "foldy" to improve the fatuge life! I feel like there are many good solutions that are waiting to be found.
The problem with any temperature expanding piston system is containing the expansive material. Bellows systems do not need seals, and can be easily encapsulated with material that can withstand the caustic environment and extremes of temperature, while pistons require the piston, cylinder, and the piston seals be able to do the same. It is much more expensive to precision machine, then precision coat the piston and the cylinder in expensive material like chromium, and then assemble the unit with expensive seals between the piston and cylinder. A simple bellows system would cost about the same as just the seals on the piston and cylinder, and are likely to last about the same number of cycles, if not more.
Bellows traps are just used because they are cheap. There are far more reliable options.
You can't use piston cylinder as it can't provide the vacuum seal required for this application.
Please design a inverter and an induction heater circuit
Is this a two (2) pipe system? Condensed steam returns on another pipe as opposed to a single pipe system?
There is no such thing as a single pipe system for steam heating, and even for hot water radiators, as they all have a supply and return line, even if it is in series rather than parallel. There is a limit to the number of radiators that can be ran in series on a single loop, as the water is losing heat at each radiator, and the water has to be hot enough to radiate heat at each radiator. With steam systems, they need to return the condensed steam, known as condensate (water), back to a boiler to be heated again into steam. A properly designed system will send steam to the radiator, where it will give off its energy to the room, condense, then return to the boiler. If steam returns to the boiler, it causes problems, as steam is a gas, and gasses are much harder to manage and heat, while water is very simple to heat to a boiling. Imagine trying to get moisture out of the air and heat it up, vs putting a pot of water on the stove. In a properly functioning steam radiator heating system, steam enters the top of the radiator, loses energy to the room, then condense back into water, exits the bottom of the radiator, then returns to the boiler. The steam trap is designed to stop the steam from exiting the radiator, and instead hold it there until it loses enough energy to turn back into a liquid, and then it opens to let out the liquid. This forms a simple self regulating system, as colder rooms will condense water faster, while warmer rooms will condense water more slowly, so in the warmer rooms the steam regulator will cycle more, and slow the heating process in the warmer rooms.
@@GoCoyote Wow, the condensed steam Does Not return down inside the pipe.
Wonder where it goes?
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Could you please explain what your saying, as I have never seen a steam radiator heating system that did not have two ports on the steam radiators, one at the top, and one on the opposite bottom side. A "supply" side, and a "return" side. The only type of system that does not do this is steam cleaning equipment that supplies steam through a pipe or hose to blast a surface with steam in order to clean it, then the steam escapes into the atmosphere as water vapor that may very quickly condense into visible vapor.
One would not want to just vent steam from a heating radiator in a home directly into the house, as that would be dangerous, it would quickly become too humid to live in, would damage the home and its contents, and would not operate very efficiently. It would be like using a stove top of boiling pots of water to heat your home.
As an aside, high temperature steam lines leaks are incredibly dangerous, as super heated steam is invisible, and one can walk right into the steam without even knowing it. This is a major safety issue on ships, power plants, and factories that use super heated steam.
@@GoCoyote I have a video on single pipe steam but you can also just look it up on RUclips.
@@GoCoyote I've never seen a two pipe residential steam heating system. In the one pipe system there is a vent on the top, opposite the steam inlet on the bottom and it vents out air. Once the steam hits the vent and the temp rises the vent shuts keeping the steam in the radiator. These will hiss as the air is vented and you can hear them vent and stop. Some vents are quiet though, so not all will make noise. They are adjustable as well. So you can direct the steam to go more to one room or another and balance the heating via how large the vent orifice opens.
Any chance you guys could make a video on why we can't use AC breakers on DC and viceversa?
There are breakers that can be used for either AC or DC, but with different voltage ratings. As DC is more prone to arcing on disconnecting, it's lower on DC than on AC, as far as I can remember. Would be bad, if the breaker starts arcing and burning instead of breaking the circuit.
It looks like we don't have such device in our building radiator system (eu). Might be a foreign thing ?
This is the best we've got? The only reason I can think of designing something to last 3 to 5 years is if you want to sell more of them....
mud and dirt in the steam system is also a bad thing for Steam traps.
That's why TLV steam traps is the best in the market.. the actual run process is very effective
Good video.
But no animated demon girls? ;P
I heard noise like a hammer 🔨 next to trap. And a water leaking at the air valve 😢.what’s solution
But in the first case wouldn't I be able to tell the failure because of not being able to shut down the radiator?
Steam... that shit scares me
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Is this why my radiator isn't working?
Requesting Contactor how it's works.
Why would you ever want to heat the water in the system to boiling temperature in the first place? That's massively inefficient.
Any americans: "Because we can"
Hmm, never heard of such a thing on my radiators. But there shouldn't be any steam in radiators, right? Just hot water without any air, air inside the radiators make them noisy because of trapped air bubbles.
There are radiators that use steam instead of hot water in older buildings here in America.
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