What makes this pedal great? Boss OD-1
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- In this video, we dive into a bit of pedal history, legacy and circuit characteristics of the Boss OD-1 overdrive pedal, how it is related to the tubescreamer (both ts-9 and ts808), the boss sd-1, od-2, and od-3.
When I was a kid, I wanted a cranked Marshall amp like my guitar heroes had, but tube amps weren't as common or affordable as they are now. My first amp was a Kingston solid-state, which was sort of the normal type of amp for a kid starting out then.. Later, in my early teens, I upgraded to a Crate G40 and swapped my Ibanez chorus pedal for this exact Boss OD-1 with a friend of mine, Joe Sherfick.
The OD-1 was a game-changer in the world of overdrive pedals though.. There was nothing quite like it around, and most “dirt” pedals were fuzzier rather than having that tight overdrive sound. It did have a major flaw though many thought -It didn't have a tone control. So Ibanez added a tone control, but had to use symmetrical clipping because Boss had a patent on their asymmetrical clipping style and came out with the tubescreamer.
Boss came back with the SD-1 in 1981 though, which was very similar to the Tube Screamer, which…. was quite similar to the OD-1.
Fast-forward to '85, Boss released the OD-2 to replace the OD-1. Oddly, they changed the circuitry completely, making it sound entirely different. They did add a high-gain turbo mode, though. But in 1997 Boss introduced the OD-3 with different circuits yet again, and a great overdriven sound.
Sure, the OD-1 has some limitations, such as a bit of a mid-rangey tone, no tone control, lack of bass, and a slightly funky power supply requirement that doesn't always work with standard 9V DC power supplies. It's also been referred to as a "one-trick pony," but I like it!
Despite these limitations, the OD-1 was revolutionary for its time. It introduced asymmetrical clipping and it’s a platform for those into modding and building pedals.. You can modify it easily to add more or a different style of gain, more or less bass and treble, or even add an entirely different EQ section.
Without the OD-1, we wouldn't have had the Tube Screamer or the many versions of that circuit. More importantly, we wouldn’t have the great tones captured on numerous recordings by some of our favorite guitarists.
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When Brian demos pedals he does it in a way that leaves you in no doubt whatsoever regarding the differences between A and B or A, B and C. Clear, succinct and hugely informative 👍
The Boss OD-1 was my first pedal. I absolutely loved it! I still remember the smell of the pedal and how excited I was to have this beautiful light yellow metal box to expand my range of sounds, using a 1982 Fender ‘Dan Smith’ hardtail Stratocaster and a Peavey Classic VT 212. I used this setup in a metal band (imagine that!) and I even got many compliments on my sound. Nobody believed it could work. I had no idea, I just used what I had.
All of this has to be 40 years ago. Man, I wish I could go back in time and relive it all again. ❤😊
I have this same pedal I bought new when it came out. Really made my Marshall half stack come to life. It toured around the USA in the 80s and got beat to hell from road life. It's 40 years old and still works like it was new! Things were just made better back then. The 80s were truly the best days of my life too. Rock on brother!
This is interesting. For a few years in the late 80s and early 90s I used an SD-1 as my only pedal, played a ton of gigs with it. I'd never even tried a Tubescreamer, but if I understand Brian right, the SD-1 was basically a Tubescreamer with asymmetrical clipping. Now I also didn't know asymmetrical clipping from a hole in the ground, but I liked what I heard with the SD-1 enough to keep using it for four years or so.
Now fast forward to today. Still never owned a Tubescreamer, but a while back I bought my first Screamer style pedal, a Walrus Audio Warhorn. It has a two band EQ (move over Bad Monkey) and a switch to select symmetrical or asymmetrical clipping. Guess how I always run it? But I had no idea until this moment that I'm basically recreating that SD-1 sound from thirty odd years ago. What I don't know is if back then had I compared it with a Tubescreamer I would have preferred the SD-1, or if years of gigging with the SD-1 made me now prefer asymmetrical clipping.
I had a TS9 for years before I got the SD-1. I was never very happy with the TS. I finally picked up a SD-1 and finally found a mid boost that I like.
It turns out that I also prefer asymmetrical clipping.
I loved the OD2 into a JCM800.Then the OD2-R.
The OD3 is totally magnificent.
Thank you for a great video.
Excellent video and great explanation of the Boss OD 1!
Hopefully Brian Wampler will come out with a version of this classic pedal with a powerful 3 band EQ section and an extra gain toggle switch! 🙏🏻🔥🤟🏻
You mean the "WOD-1", right ? : ) There is likely a market for this as this pedal has a following.... it will be even better when Brian puts his spin on it to up the versatility , something that allows a little 'extra'. 3 band EQ could be the ticket !
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Yes, please make this.
The BOSS OD-3 OVERDRIVE is my favorite of all time overdrive pedal. And I've owned over 250 different overdrive pedals, from cheap production to expensive boutique. The BOSS OD-3 is just amazing.
I concur….I have two and they are fantastic sounding
You make me want to buy one and I will my friend
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It's subjective. It works for me and my style. I play Strats and Teles with single coil pickups and it seems like they work well together. I know other guys who hate it. Me personally, I've never found another overdrive that goes with me so well.
It is beautiful.I have a modded one too.😊
Since I only really ever play through Fender amps, the OD3 is definitely my go to overdrive. Some people say it doesn't stack well, and I kind of agree, however a Klon running at low-ish gain into an OD3 is heaven to me. It's a glorious tone. You just can't set the Klon too high, maybe around 11 o'clock where the tranny is just starting to do its thing.
That all said, I also put the OD1 right up there on par with the OD3 but with British amps. The OD1 into a Marshall is fantastic for getting HUGE crunch. It also does something to the low end on a Marshall to keep it from ever being flubby. I just love the clarity and note separation the OD1. And I'm one of those guys that does believe the 14 pin does have a bit better sound than dual quads.
Good enough for Jerry Garcia, good enough for me. He used the OD-1 and 2 after primarily playing the MXR Distortion +.
It is one of my favorite overdrive pedals and I prefer it over the SD-1. However an additional EQ-Pedal can be useful.
Love my OD-1! I never cared about the lack of a tone control, I'm honestly more bothered by the momentary LED. I've literally forgot the pedal was still on when I needed to play clean and soft!
Yep, still got mine
Use to push a stereo Galion Krueger 250rl with it
Other band’s guitarists would ask how I got that sound
You can hear every note but it still sings
This is in the day when Mesa rectos ruled the clubs
Lots of mush
Always preferred the BOSS midrange (OD-1 and SD-1 mainly but somewhat the others have that upper mid thing going on) to the Tubescreamer midrange especially on edgy or crunchy amps. Always liked asymmetrical clipping.
Same here. Asymmetrical clipping sounds more amp like to me. I’ve had a TS for years, but use SD-1 when I need a mid boost. I mostly use the OD-3.
Thank you for this video! The OD1 had a sparkle that made it stand above the rest especially when you added the EQ. Never heard the Turbo variant… like that a lot.
Always love these demonstrations featuring great sounds with a spark of history and knowledge thrown in there. Really enjoyed this! 🤘⚡🎸
The slow zoom-in with melancholic piano music at 7:27 is great. Never thought a man breaking down the shortcomings of an OD pedal could bring a tear to my eye, lol.
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The OD-1 has been Pete Townshend's sound since the year 2000, played through Fender Vibro King Combos! Kind of odd if you ask me! (Why doesn't he use a Plexi Drive?) 😇
Thanks for covering the phase inverting vs non phase inverting opamp stuff, I have found that the clean blend of screamers and klons always bug me, the keeley gex2 sounded amazing except for the clean blend, I definitely preferred the inverted sound when you hit it with more gain
I play low-output three single-coil strat into SD1 (boost) then through a OD3 (main) and that's so heavenly drive tone. Work so well both backing and solo.
It was the booster of choice for Jake e Lee in the 80's, for gain and bass management. L.A. metal sound staple
The Boss OD-1 is the 50’s LP Jnr of overdrive pedals: simple, yes, limited, yes, but bags of attitude!
Make us OD1 clone, they are very expensive today. :)
Lesson learned: don't fix what ain't broke. Just put the damn tone knob in and call it a day.
Make a Wampler version with all the possible mods shown here, please? 3-band EQ and an inverting and non-inverting opamp mod. 09:30 🔥
There are two issues of the OD-1. One of them - the first - used a 3403 quad opamp, with opamp input and output buffers. The second issue used a 4558 dual opamp and the more familiar transistor input and output buffers. Like the TS9, it reduced gain in the clipping stage for content below 720hz. Unlike the TS9, it used a fixed filter instead of a variable tone control, and also went for asymmetrical clipping. The perk of that diode complement resulted in a hotter output at modest drive settings - something the TS9 struggled with. I built myself a clone of the first issue and rather like it. Of course, never content to leave well enough alone, I added a 3-way toggle to give me stock, more bass, or more bass with less treble. The filter they chose was well-chosen, but sometimes you want a warmer tone. But a solid meat and potatoes drive pedal.
Back in the days where I had hair, I ran an OD3 in front of my bass amp.
I thought it sounded good on bass until I realized it didn't.
Does sound good for guitar, though.
0:28 - Got that same exact Kingston and also, was my very first amp purchased in 1983. 1W, solid state. Even used it in the studio once or twice.
Boss pedals just are a part of all our history's, I think we have all had some type of boss product at some point in our life's. Great video Brian 👍
Have to agree. Could've built a all bought used Boss board. But ended up changing around some other pedals. But what did stay on my board since the day it's built. A Alchemy modded Blues driver and a Indyguitarist modded CH-1. Indyguitarist is B Wampler before he made his own. While I haven't actually gave him money I do have his work represented. Have a dB-1 buffer/ boost and the Indy pedal. The Boss chorus is as good as I will ever need and knowing is been cleaned up from stock makes it a win/ win for me.
Boss back in the late 70s early 80s was what everybody else where chasing. They had the strong hold on the market at that time. They never wavered and continue to innovate and lead the industry. Where would we be without boss? I too believe most everyone has had a boss pedal at some point or still does and there’s no shame in doing so. I think I have three or four pedals but I have had one of the multi effects pedal and have a switcher unit that rocks and a Katana 100 watt amp head that is a beast. I have embraced the boss in my daily life and boss has been with me from the start of my guitar playing and musical journey. I’ve never really thought about it like that before. Peavey too has always been in the mix. lol pun intended… 👍🎸🤓🌎☮️❤️
@@gsbguitarsgsb679 yea I still have and use my boss tuner from the early 90's...and after years of distortion pedal addiction...I always find myself going back to the metal zone because that's what I started with as a kid.👍🤘🎸
The only Boss pedal I've ever bought was the AW-2 Auto Wah. It offers a nice selection of wah effects, but has always had a high level of background hum. So Boss have unfortunately made some duds 🙄😞🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for helping me understand a bit more about the difference in sound between inverting and non inverting op amp gain stages
I have 65 pedals on my board and yes I use everyone and secondly I use it live. The Boss OD-1 is perfect for a Semi. It does not increased the honk all Semi guitars have. I can use it on my Strat for my clean. I like a lot of Strat bell like chime and this doesn't steal it, but warms of the Strat, fills it out and gives some sustain.
start a youtube channel dude
i wanna see that pedalboard!
I've been using the SD-1 and the BD-2 for 25 years. I can do almost any style with 'em.
Kind of crazy to think you could have a patent on asymmetrical clipping.
I love the OD 3 myself.
Brian I get the strangest feeling you're gonna invent an od 1 remake with a bass n troubled knobs and maybe symmetrical clipping switch. Lol. That's kool.
My favorite way to use an OD-1 is to back the gain all the way off and boost the level to suit. Obviously with another drive pedal. Peace ☮️
It's a rather simple device that turns my 50 watt JCM 800 into a fire breathing beast. I used it all through the 80s/90s and it is still my go to.
Those things sound horrible to me. I do not like any of the Boss distortion pedals, except may be the Blues Breaker or whatever it is called, and maybe the Metal Zone for a certain sound.. The OD-1 sounds especially bad to me. But their CS-3 Compressor is fairly transparent, and fairly low-noise, and is very usable. The old original MXR Script compressors are super noisy, but sound the best, if you use them in a way where it is only engaged during a solo. They are harder to manage, but the get a great sound, and feel very transparent, but at the cost of all that noise, but you can use that noise to your advantage in a solo.
Solid-state amps were a relatively new thing on the pro level in 1977. Tube amps were the norm in 1977! Very few amps were "solid-state" at the time, perhaps LabSeries and some old Voxes but they were rare. I was 19 at the time.
Roland JC....
@@olivergiles6731 oh really? I didn't know it was
That’s not the one you want. The early models with the Raytheon chip are a completely different pedal. 77’ and 78’.
I find your tone very dissatisfying. I certainly would not be inclined to call it organic. Bald is more accurate.
I've got an sd-1 but I could do without a tone knob I got one on my amp lol
sounds really well with the Strat. Funnly it sounds quite Teleish
I owned 2 OD2s! GOOD pedal!
Always learn something from Mr wampler ! Thanks and keep those pedals coming :).
You say many guitar players figured out. but that is what the sales lit said to do with them play them into overdriven stacks.
Love these videos Brian. I have an OD-3, only really use it at home with a Red Knob Fender Champ 12, sounds great to me!
Nice Video, I Love this pedal!!
I just designed my first distortion pedal from the ground up. I skipped the tone control as well. I feel that if you have tone controls on your guitar, amp, and possibly on other pedals, then that is plenty of tone controls. Also a tone control saps some of your sound even when it is totally "open".
wtf is that guitar? slaver custom?
based
The SD-1 adds Sustain, for days, and it opens up the Harmonics of Tube amps, turns any tube amp into a Rock Monster
its the number one choise for playing through Marshall Plexi's and Hiwatts
Sd1 is the king
No wonder they all sound about the same. They are.
He don't clean his guitar since those days 😜😝
Tube Screamer is less bright.
Blues Driver is better than all of those
Funk Circles
audio clipping here
Oh no the noise level was massive.
Your B roll/Pedal cam is SO confusing! You show yourself turn the OD-1 off, then play, and we hear a distorted sound, what is it? The OD-1? The OD-2, -3? You did it so many times in this vid, probably using the same video clip. SHAME! lol. Seriously though, so confusing. Look at the lights of the pedals in the pedal shot, and you tell me what we're about to hear! Guarantee you won't know! Thanks for trying to share your tech knowledge with us though! Appreciate it!
it’s due to the old boss pedals switching system- the led does not stay on, it only flashes for a second while turning it on or off.
Ibanez,, gostei mais
I remember the Crate days.
The only pedal channel worth watching. Brian, I would love you to take a look at the Pearl OD 05. I think its eq circuit was a bit ahead of what others offered at the time.
To anyone watching. Where can I find schematics for these pedals? I'm thinking of building 1 of them. I'm not sure which one yet. Thanks
A quick google should show some boss od1 schematics
I prefer the Tumnus
Thank you!
Boss OD-1, SD-1 and Ibanez TS-808, TS-9 set the standard for overdrive. Until now we still revere these products.
OD-1 is a baaaad mf
I had a Boss OD1 back in the 80s. When I gave up playing in a band for some years, I sold the OD1 for a couple of bucks. I wish I hadn't. 😞
Hope this series continues
Great video. But it just goes to show me that using the Boss EQ is the best pedal to get more gain and still shape the sound.
It’s my secret weapon although I tell everyone I play with 😂
I never understood the preference for the TS. I reckon it's only coz SRV used one. If he'd used the OD-1 instead, I'm guessing the gear 'experts' would be raving about that. Here are my findings, as far as I can remember. My brother bought the OD-1 in 1983. Shortly after, I bought a tube screamer. The only reason I did is coz the TS was cheaper. We did a direct comparison. As far as our ears could detect, they were identical except for one thing; the OD-1 had true bypass whereas the TS slightly coloured the sound when not in use....meaning the OD-1 is BETTER................
I recently built an OD1 clone from BYOC and I found EXACTLY what you're saying to be true. It's a great pedal but it's very mid forward and when you're using a mid heavy amp (mesa badlander) they don't play great together. It's phenomenal in front of a mesa dual rec though. Also, I did the EXACT mod you're talking about to one of my SD1 today. I just got a 1982 SD1 and I modded it to take a 9v supply. It's a diode and a resistor (I know you already know) and I left the originals taped to the case. I'm not selling it but still, it's completely reversable.
Love the sound of that extra bass mod; if I could stick a clean blend on that (the OD-1 doesn't have _enough_ clean for my taste; and no, I don't play bass) then I'd be very happy.
Shame I don't know how to mod and am too dyslexic to read a circuit. Ah well. Hint hint at a new product, I guess. Hint hint.
Still remember you from Harmony Central’s forums circa 2001-5. Great show, dude!
I was known as TexGtr on there!
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Using an OD-1 with a vintage Vox AC-30. and am happy to say it sounds like a small planet colliding onto the face of the earth!
Ok, you wanna say you're putting out a clone of the Boss od1... Much welcomed!
Thats the problem, why all guitarist said od1 has flaw because it dont have tone control. It still has "tone". Adding volume and gain wil certainly shape a tone.
Btw what type of chip is that?
And i smeeelll a new pedal 😁😁😁
I hear all 3 and I pretend to think they're different but not really enough for me to notice. Guess I'm not an OD pedal guy. I'll move along now...
just re-watched this video. I really like this series, hope it makes sense for you to bring it back at some point 🙂
I am here shortly ☺️
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I wish you would cover the OD3.
It’s coming soon
It's great cause it was designed by aliens and I still play through a crate gx40c 210 for practicing
Man, I’m cracking up over the sad piano music when talking disadvantages 😂
I absolutely adore my 1980 OD-1. The LED stays on when the pedal is engaged on mine, and I know not all of then do that, so I got lucky. To me it just sounds more open and wide-ranging than a Tubescreamer but still boosts the mids in a pleasing way. Also, to my ear is has less clean blend than a Tubescreamer. I want to buy a backup, but they're sooo expensive on Reverb.
Very inspiring Brian, tnx...
I do actually try to better understand schematics and electronic behind pedals, after I build some of popular clones.
Can you suggest where to find this mods of OD-1 you show here?
Tnx again...!
His breadboard sounded better than the pedal. Imagine what his amps sound like.
Great description of a groundbreaking pedal, Brian! I bought one early on (late 1970s) for the single note solos to add sustain and stand out like my tube amps did when very loud with some sort of preamp driving the bejeezus out of it. That was a 66 Bandmaster with a Gibson Skylark driving it. Ouch! The OD-1 allowed me to get a similar sustain at wedding band volume with a Polytone 104 or a Peavey Bandit. So me and my friends who bought the OD-1 were looking for a non-fuzzy single note sound a la Santana at any volume. BTW I still have the OD-1 and take it on gigs once in a while.
I’m sure not everyone will agree but having played almost everything out there I think most overdrives sound more similar than different, there are so many factors and variables that affect the final sound. And it really comes down to experience to get the sound you like. And in live band mix can you really identify what pedal someone is using?
HI M.Brilliant Wampler, great video. I Still use my ''How to modify effects pedals'' book to this day (bought 15 years ago).
BOSS OD-1 vs DOD 250?
also vs the Triumph down switch position, how close can the tone controls get to the OD-1?
I put the OD1 right up there on par with the OD3 as best ODs ever. I tend to use my OD1 with British (el34/el84) amps, and the OD3 for Fender 6v6/6L6 style amps. But you can't go wrong with the OD1 into anything really. It's basically perfect IMO. It also stacks very well with basically any other overdrive.
I love what it does to the low end on a Marshall to keep it from ever being flubby. Amazing clarity and note separation. And I'm one of those guys that does believe the 14 pin does have a bit better sound than dual quads.
Since I only really ever play through Fender amps nowadays, the OD3 is usually my go to overdrive just because I don't like taking my OD1 out for one, but in a live setting I just think the OD3 works a bit better with Fenders. Some people say it doesn't stack well, and I kind of agree, however a Klon running at low-ish gain into an OD3 is heaven to me. It's a glorious tone. You just can't set the Klon too high, maybe around 11 o'clock where the tranny is just starting to do its thing.
Need one of these videos for the Electric Mistress and the Boss CE-1 (the CE-2 is good, but I really like the CE-1's sound, and it's odd-ball BBD chip)
Thanks for the demonstration Brian! Out of all the pedals in the video, I preferred the original OD-1! Yes, I liked the addl mids!
The others, esp. the Tube Screamer seemed to add too much bottom.
I think if I was using an OD-1 in my rig, what I'd do was EXACTLY what you said in the later part of the video and MOST guitar players miss from their rigs, and that is, add say a 10-band EQ and voice and tweak the tone to where you want it!
Thanks for another informative presentation, the BOSS SD1 with the Fromel mod that includes the 4558 chip is one of the best sounding OD pedals I’ve had.
I much prefer the OD-1, and i never knew. I will probably build a clone, maybe with a bit more bass.
It's only been recently that I started embracing the idea of stacking gain stages, so of course I got a few clones in order to get a taste of some classic circuits, that includes a SD-1 and a TS-808. Both of them sound pretty similar, I wouldn't be able to clearly discern which one is which, especially in a mix. However, the interesting part is as a player you can definitely «feel» the different clipping style. I found the SD-1 is what better suits me (I couldn't imagine using an OD-1 without the flexibility of the tone control), it works great for mid to high gain rhythm playing, it never gets too compressed. However the TS-808 (or TS-9) symmetric clipping I would say works slightly better for solo playing and much better for high gain stuff. How they both felt on the same amp with the same gain dictated how I played. So for the listener they might be interchangeable, definitely not for the player.
I like the OD 1 best.
Sounds like the sound Donny Iris used in “Leah”.
I always wanted to play with an OD-1. I love the SD-1 and TS-9. SD-1 is more transparent at lower volumes and more Marshally and boost dirty amps harder. The TS-9 does a better thing to bass frequencies and is king for power chords with humbuckers.
Whist I really like the sound of the SD - 1 I always hated the fact that there was no bottom end capable with this pedal. Why Boss decided to roll off the lows is a mystery? The OD - 1 here sounds great, another case of they got it correct the first time ( except the lack of bass )
Where I get a OD-1 with an active three-band EQ?? Brian, help!
Oh, non-inverting op amps are tight!. Actually, would lean toward inverting for lead and non-inverting for rhythm
Love those early Boss gain pedals. Thank you for the video, Rick- I mean Brian.
Great video! I had an original OD1 but it had the smaller chip, 6 pin? Spunded good but a bit tinny, not enough bass. Gets that Marshall crunch happening though, especially using a Fender amp.