I just learned this from you ! This is the first time that I heard this. Melatonin doesn't make you go to sleep. It only gets you ready for it. Adenosine actually makes you go to sleep. Aarre Peltomaa of Mississauga, Ontario
I have had major sleep problems all my life. Ever since i remember my self. I ak 42 years old now. Through the years I've tried all kind of meds, remedies, herbs, meditation, excercising, dieting. NOTHING would help me. Recently I've been diagnosed with ADHD. I am on Atomoxetine which i take in the morning and melatonin 1 hr before bed. It's been working like a miracle for me up to now. Atomoxetine (Noradrenaline selective reuptake inhibitor ) the first week made made me feel nervous and my sleep was even lesser than before, or i would see nightmares, but after my body gotten used to it, i can finally sleep after 42 years.
I'm going thru the same thing! I'm been prescribed clonidine, for mild ADHD. But my issue for sleep just started few months ago after some anxiety, before that I could sleep like a baby. I started the med yesterday but didn't sleep at all yesterday, do you think it'll take some time to work?
Ha! We didn’t talk about discharging emotions, but reliving acute states of tension can be helpful if emotional arousal is keeping one awake. We’ll put together something on discharging emotions, for now here a link to a handout on dealing with emotions: www.thepsychcollective.com/resources/Dealing-with-Difficult-Emotions-p392622629
Here’s a question I’d really like to ask you. I have a shrink and psychopharmacologist duo, that I like well enough - well, the shrink I like, the pph a little less. Both of them, earlier in this year, wanted me on 3 clonazepam per day, permanently. I said I’d be very wary of addiction, or whatever the preferred term is in the pharmaceutical industry. They both told me that that was nonsense, and that doctors are ridiculously worried about dependence on benzos, that on the contrary doctors should work with higher doses, and that, again, the dependence thing was mostly a myth. Being that I’ve personally known 3 people who went through benzo withdrawal and said it was hell (and took, for two of them, a whole year) and that they never, ever want to touch a benzo again, and being that I’ve been in severe withdrawal from an SSRI, I declined. They made me feel I was silly for declining, and my family members said that if those shrinks said it was fine to go on clonazepam permanently I should listen to them and not think I knew better. May I ask, what is your honest opinion on this matter?
I’m not a proponent of long-term high dose benzos. That’s not to say there’s never a place for it. I outline my thinking about benzos in the context of anxiety here: ruclips.net/video/Y9UqU8wzOhg/видео.html (Not medical advise)
I was put on 6 1 mg Xanax per day plus 600 mgs seroquel for sleep! Wasn't really paying attention that day. That day took so many years of my life. Keep following your gut instinct. I've gotten off of the seroquel cold turkey but the benzos I doubt I'll ever be able to come completely off of. I'm pro melatonin. Never trust anyone with psych drugs. I've for instance never taken an antidepressant more than a couple days. If something has a bad effect day 1 or 2 I'm not taking it for the 6 to 8 week period just to become addicted. The less psych meds the better.
@@thePSYCHcollective thats what i thought as i dont have any physical symptoms with my insomnia. Also do you mean from this video that the levers set the right conditions for sleep to happen on its own rather than an element of control as sleep cannot be "controlled"?
Here are some principles: Tiredness lever: exercise and get up early to increase adenosine. Arousal lever: address the ruminations/thoughts (eg ruclips.net/video/8zg_bvUJk5k/видео.html) to reduce noradrenaline Readiness lever: sunlight during the day and darkness at night, to optimise melatonin/histamine
Earthing (search in YT) is good for health and can help cure insomnia, it's easy to DIY a grounding mat, sheet or pillow to use at home, NO need to buy.👣🌍
1:17 I really value when people say that they don't know something. Because you really can't learn if you think you know everything.
I just learned this from you ! This is the first time that I heard this.
Melatonin doesn't make you go to sleep. It only gets you ready for it. Adenosine actually makes you go to sleep. Aarre Peltomaa of Mississauga, Ontario
Keep up the good work. Loving it! Please don't stop to make our lives better! I really appreciate your work!
Really appreciate your feedback. Thanks! 🙌
I have had major sleep problems all my life. Ever since i remember my self. I ak 42 years old now. Through the years I've tried all kind of meds, remedies, herbs, meditation, excercising, dieting. NOTHING would help me. Recently I've been diagnosed with ADHD. I am on Atomoxetine which i take in the morning and melatonin 1 hr before bed. It's been working like a miracle for me up to now. Atomoxetine (Noradrenaline selective reuptake inhibitor ) the first week made made me feel nervous and my sleep was even lesser than before, or i would see nightmares, but after my body gotten used to it, i can finally sleep after 42 years.
That’s great news!
I'm going thru the same thing! I'm been prescribed clonidine, for mild ADHD. But my issue for sleep just started few months ago after some anxiety, before that I could sleep like a baby. I started the med yesterday but didn't sleep at all yesterday, do you think it'll take some time to work?
I’m going to pull my levers tonight, it always helps me sleep!
Ha! We didn’t talk about discharging emotions, but reliving acute states of tension can be helpful if emotional arousal is keeping one awake. We’ll put together something on discharging emotions, for now here a link to a handout on dealing with emotions:
www.thepsychcollective.com/resources/Dealing-with-Difficult-Emotions-p392622629
Here’s a question I’d really like to ask you. I have a shrink and psychopharmacologist duo, that I like well enough - well, the shrink I like, the pph a little less. Both of them, earlier in this year, wanted me on 3 clonazepam per day, permanently. I said I’d be very wary of addiction, or whatever the preferred term is in the pharmaceutical industry.
They both told me that that was nonsense, and that doctors are ridiculously worried about dependence on benzos, that on the contrary doctors should work with higher doses, and that, again, the dependence thing was mostly a myth.
Being that I’ve personally known 3 people who went through benzo withdrawal and said it was hell (and took, for two of them, a whole year) and that they never, ever want to touch a benzo again, and being that I’ve been in severe withdrawal from an SSRI, I declined.
They made me feel I was silly for declining, and my family members said that if those shrinks said it was fine to go on clonazepam permanently I should listen to them and not think I knew better.
May I ask, what is your honest opinion on this matter?
I’m not a proponent of long-term high dose benzos. That’s not to say there’s never a place for it. I outline my thinking about benzos in the context of anxiety here:
ruclips.net/video/Y9UqU8wzOhg/видео.html
(Not medical advise)
I was put on 6 1 mg Xanax per day plus 600 mgs seroquel for sleep! Wasn't really paying attention that day. That day took so many years of my life. Keep following your gut instinct. I've gotten off of the seroquel cold turkey but the benzos I doubt I'll ever be able to come completely off of.
I'm pro melatonin. Never trust anyone with psych drugs. I've for instance never taken an antidepressant more than a couple days. If something has a bad effect day 1 or 2 I'm not taking it for the 6 to 8 week period just to become addicted. The less psych meds the better.
Love it. Really interesting info.
Thanks for the feedback!!
Great video!!!
I've been watching your videos on sleep hygiene. They're spot on! Very well distilled and explained. Greetings from the US.
Thanks for the feedback!
Does mental "exercise" produce adenosine?
It produces mental fatigue
Can you have hyperarousal without many physical symptoms like more mental hyperarousal that keeps you up at night.
Yes. Typically it’s mental arousal from the thoughts (unsolved problems) that keep people awake
@@thePSYCHcollective thats what i thought as i dont have any physical symptoms with my insomnia. Also do you mean from this video that the levers set the right conditions for sleep to happen on its own rather than an element of control as sleep cannot be "controlled"?
Here are some principles:
Tiredness lever: exercise and get up early to increase adenosine.
Arousal lever: address the ruminations/thoughts (eg
ruclips.net/video/8zg_bvUJk5k/видео.html) to reduce noradrenaline
Readiness lever: sunlight during the day and darkness at night, to optimise melatonin/histamine
What about Cortisol?
It contributes to arousal
Earthing (search in YT) is good for health and can help cure insomnia, it's easy to DIY a grounding mat, sheet or pillow to use at home, NO need to buy.👣🌍
Is this true??
Is melatonin addictive?
One can become tolerant to it if taken regularly.
@@thePSYCHcollective ANY WITHDRAWAL AFTER TAKEN LONG TERM?
Try going two sentences with out saying 'okay'. So annoying.
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