The Supermodel Scam: How a Prof who Looked for Love Ended up in Prison

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    This is the story of how particle physicist Paul Frampton ended up in prison for smuggling drugs after being scammed by someone who pretended to be a bikini model, and what happened next.
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  • @StylishHobo
    @StylishHobo 26 дней назад +1393

    A tale as old as time. Boy gets physics PhD. Boy meets girl. Girl makes boy smuggle drugs. Boy spends 2 years in an Argentinian prison. Boy wins Noble Prize.

    • @inxiti
      @inxiti 25 дней назад +46

      Let he who has not done so cast the first stone.
      Come on, who hasn't had a wild time now, and then?

    • @chineserockethands4578
      @chineserockethands4578 25 дней назад +29

      Yep, it’s happened to several people I know.

    • @witsend236
      @witsend236 25 дней назад +20

      ​@@inxiti I was about to cast a stone, then I remembered last summer.

    • @hellboystein2926
      @hellboystein2926 25 дней назад +3

      Totally remebers me of this song, what was it just?!
      Ah, there I have it:
      Avril Lavigne: Skaterboy!
      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @brainites
      @brainites 25 дней назад

      @@inxiti 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @utkua
    @utkua 26 дней назад +598

    I feel like Sabine wanted to say, "a 20 something super model falling in love with a physics professor she's never met is about the same probability as finding that particle."

    • @kubluu
      @kubluu 25 дней назад +13

      Maybe he thought he was Leonard Hofstaedter hooking up with Penny.

    • @dailysmelly9756
      @dailysmelly9756 25 дней назад +4

      Less. Far far less.

    • @DominikPlaylists
      @DominikPlaylists 24 дня назад +15

      it's not falling in love. It's what some people call the oldest profession in the world. The old guy pays a little money to a 20 year old model and then they are both happy. This type of a transaction may be far more common than most people think.

    • @axisskin
      @axisskin 24 дня назад +2

      @@DominikPlaylists absolutely!

    • @kubluu
      @kubluu 24 дня назад +3

      @@DominikPlaylists Yes, many incels do that.

  • @kirenireves
    @kirenireves 25 дней назад +605

    Another example of "Smart, but not Wise."

    • @1voluntaryist
      @1voluntaryist 24 дня назад +18

      Or, wise in some ways, not in others, e.g., not worldly.

    • @jed1nat
      @jed1nat 24 дня назад +11

      @@1voluntaryist No, just not wise. That's like nitpicking someone isn't stupid for shooting themselves in the foot. Okay, they maybe technically aren't always that stupid. Who gives a crap, we aren't talking about their test score in 8th grade.

    • @cherubin7th
      @cherubin7th 24 дня назад +7

      If he was wise, he would not chase the particles.

    • @dittikke
      @dittikke 24 дня назад +25

      He was vulnerable. People fall for all kinds of scams and get taken in by sects and generally make really dumb choices when they're vulnerable that they otherwise wouldn't think of doing.

    • @lawshorizon
      @lawshorizon 24 дня назад

      All it proves is that brilliant scientists are just as stupid as anyone else.

  • @Williamtolduso
    @Williamtolduso 25 дней назад +113

    He wrote 5 papers in 2013 while in prison. And im here struggling to write 1 per year 😭😭😭

    • @Lifeonthefastlane007
      @Lifeonthefastlane007 24 дня назад +2

      Lmao we weak

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 24 дня назад +24

      He probably had a bit more free time on his hands than you do.

    • @shibenikvaysyor8309
      @shibenikvaysyor8309 21 день назад

      And fewer distractions ​@@stargazer7644

    • @AlterMego1
      @AlterMego1 20 дней назад +9

      You would have far less distractions in prison :P

    • @adrianred236
      @adrianred236 11 дней назад +2

      You lack the dedication to lock yourself in your room and only leave for an hour a day.

  • @Thomas-gk42
    @Thomas-gk42 26 дней назад +930

    Well there´s saying among German construction craftsmen, that goes: "If you need trouble in life, just look after old houses or young women."

    • @StylishHobo
      @StylishHobo 26 дней назад +108

      But what if you buy an old house for a young woman? Maybe they'll cancel each other out.

    • @Thomas-gk42
      @Thomas-gk42 26 дней назад +84

      @@StylishHobo interference pattern?

    • @chrisquinn394
      @chrisquinn394 25 дней назад +7

      😅

    • @millwrightrick1
      @millwrightrick1 25 дней назад +34

      Constructive interference is the issue.

    • @siddhartacrowley8759
      @siddhartacrowley8759 25 дней назад +12

      Habe den Spruch noch nie gehört, tbh.

  • @deadalpeca8099
    @deadalpeca8099 25 дней назад +277

    His lack of healthy skepticism shines through in both his love life and particle physics

    • @howtoappearincompletely9739
      @howtoappearincompletely9739 24 дня назад +2

      Nice. Good zinger, that.

    • @astesia5174
      @astesia5174 24 дня назад

      Incredible comment, deserves to be way higher up.

    • @yeslinsequeira4612
      @yeslinsequeira4612 24 дня назад +2

      What do you know about his work?

    • @deadalpeca8099
      @deadalpeca8099 24 дня назад +7

      @@yeslinsequeira4612 I knew this comment was coming XD
      I don't know a single thing about his work. I just made a joke because Sabine has criticised particle physicists before for coming up with new exotic particles and thinking they'd find evidence for it eventually.

    • @Don.Challenger
      @Don.Challenger 24 дня назад +3

      Hmm, he was a 'particle' physicist not 'string' theoretician - he had small particles in his hands not string bikinis elsewhere.

  • @richardsavage6981
    @richardsavage6981 25 дней назад +103

    Well told. It's amazing how loneliness will make us tell lies to ourselves for a chance to be free of it.

    • @rohitkanwar-livit
      @rohitkanwar-livit 24 дня назад +14

      Yours is one of the most compassionate comments on this gentleman. I felt that some of the others were being unnecessarily judgemental of him. Loneliness can be really really hard to cope with.
      Thank you for sharing your kind perspective. 🙏

    • @ytrew9717
      @ytrew9717 24 дня назад +1

      Loneliness ≠ sexual desire (lonely people are looking for social interaction while the laters are looking for boobs)

    • @badabing3391
      @badabing3391 21 день назад +3

      ​@@ytrew9717either one can alter your mind to make dumb decisions

    • @georgebrucks2833
      @georgebrucks2833 16 дней назад

      For more this topic, I recommend Useful Delusions by Shankar Vedantam.

    • @zetaforever4953
      @zetaforever4953 16 дней назад +2

      Let's be honest, it wasn't loneliness. You don't need a foreign 20-something bikini model to overcome 'loneliness'. If he was lonely he'd have spent all that time and effort befriending his neighbours or joining a club or something. Even talking to women of around his own age or a bit younger may have yielded better results. This was something else entirely

  • @rantingrodent416
    @rantingrodent416 23 дня назад +21

    An important message for a lot of people commenting: Believing that you are somehow above being scammed makes you vulnerable to scammers, because if anyone ever hooks you because you're sick, or tired, or suffering, or otherwise having a really off day, you will find it extra difficult to recognize the scam in progress.
    Something like this could happen to you. Internalizing this fact is a safety precaution.

    • @AloisMahdal
      @AloisMahdal 18 дней назад

      True. I myself fell prey to a stupid crypto scam (a small one), because I felt that with so many things f*d up in my life at that moment, what are the odds that this is also f*d up. There were clues but I ignored them, I was not thinking straight. I found my limits.
      (After that I got a therapist and it helped a lot, I'm much better off now. I was lucky I could afford that.)

  • @yeroca
    @yeroca 26 дней назад +68

    Praying the particle is real so, not because it will improve the Standard Model, but because it'll create a sellable movie script for him.

    • @Thomas-gk42
      @Thomas-gk42 26 дней назад +6

      ...and "model" gets a totally new meaning here.

    • @andrewguthrie2
      @andrewguthrie2 25 дней назад +2

      There is no requirement for a movie script to adhere rigidly to real world events.

  • @kquat7899
    @kquat7899 25 дней назад +200

    I can imagine how she claimed she loved him for his intellect, then proved he had no common sense whatsoever.

    • @brainites
      @brainites 25 дней назад +33

      There is book smart and then there is street smart. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 24 дня назад +6

      When it comes to particle physics common sense is a very poofr guide to anything.

    • @wayando
      @wayando 24 дня назад +13

      I think "common sense" can actually make someone NOT to be good at physics ...
      Imagining the working of particles and balckholes requires a different kind of sense.

    • @RobertR3750
      @RobertR3750 24 дня назад +16

      He was thinking with the wrong head.

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 24 дня назад

      @@wayando Absolutely right.

  • @JCAtkeson3
    @JCAtkeson3 23 дня назад +28

    'Never take luggage from a stranger at the airport' is a basic rule I hear all the time now.

    • @michael1
      @michael1 День назад

      They generally tell you not to take any bag through you haven't packed yourself - nothing to do with strangers. I guess we could argue that they gave him an "empty" bag and that he therefore packed it, but there were still plenty of red flags. Not the least, remember this guy is pretending to be an intelligent physicist - the weight of the "empty" bag given it had kilos of cocaine in it should have been a giveaway even if he's so on the spectrum that all the red flags for the interactions he was having with the people he met and the "woman" he thought he was going to meet didn't trigger a red flag. i.e he was dumb - a high school physics teacher should have noticed that the bag was heavier than an empty bag had any reason to be let alone a guy who imagines he's going to win a nobel prize for physics.
      In fact you have to question whether he really could have been that naive and dumb because, you know, pretty much everyone who thinks they can make a quick score going through customs and figures (exactly as he says in his defence) "why would a physics guy smuggle cocaine?" is going to say they were scammed or duped if they're stopped and caught - and everything else about him suggests he's intelligent then occam's razor would suggest it's a really smart guy who figured he was smart enough to get a retirement package with a one-off taking drugs through customs rather than this guy is the smartest person in the room but fell for things that a meth addled hillbilly with a lobotomy wouldn't have fallen for. It's asking a lot to believe the story in his book.
      Not the least the dating app thing makes no sense. If I'm nearly 70 and I wanted to date someone because I'm a bit lonely in my old age, I would pick someone who lives within driving distance. Not someone who the only way I can meet them is if they send me a ticket to fly there - no matter how hot she is. The supposed relationship makes no sense. You can't meet her, she won't speak to you and the only way you can get to see her is if she sends you a free plane ticket? That suggests he doesn't have much money doesn't it? Because if we're believing this woman is so hot he can't possibly resist her charms why is she paying for the date? When I was 25 I'd have sold a kidney to get on a flight to see a bikini model, but we're supposed to believe that Frampton never questions the idea that he's attracting women that Brad Pitt would pause to think "Will she like me?" but Framton's so confident of his sex appeal he's "Come to see you? Well I'm not sure..." "Well I send you a ticket" "Hmm, well I suppose, if you insist" like, come on. This did not happen how its presented here.

  • @jonwesick2844
    @jonwesick2844 25 дней назад +74

    "Just because she's good looking doesn't mean she isn't interested in physics."

  • @O_Lee69
    @O_Lee69 25 дней назад +164

    His blood went downwards so his brain could not think properly anymore.

  • @icusawme2
    @icusawme2 25 дней назад +164

    One decision can wreck you,but usually it’s a series of poor decisions that do it. We just happen to only remember the last one.Thanks for the video!

    • @daveh7720
      @daveh7720 25 дней назад +9

      There's an all-too-human tendency to cling to a mistake rather than admit it, and follow it up with more mistakes. And scammers rely on that.

    • @chudchadanstud
      @chudchadanstud 25 дней назад

      Yes and no. But it one decision. Usually it's when you're emotionally vulnerable.

    • @johnnyq4260
      @johnnyq4260 25 дней назад +4

      Yes, it all starts with being born.

    • @ytechnology
      @ytechnology 24 дня назад +5

      This supports Sabine's position that free will doesn't exist. And more specifically, most men have no will against a supermodel.

    • @fiddley
      @fiddley 24 дня назад +1

      ​@@ytechnology If a supermodel is involved, he has no agency. The little guy is calling the shots :)

  • @eljapel
    @eljapel 25 дней назад +247

    the miracle is that a british guy survived 2 year in an Argentine prison, I bet he told them he was irish

    • @pepelemoko01
      @pepelemoko01 25 дней назад +42

      The prisoners are driving the guards mad, arguing about self-determinism and free will, all day.

    • @eudaenomic
      @eudaenomic 25 дней назад +4

      I wonder what he did to survive.

    • @terubokmasin3247
      @terubokmasin3247 25 дней назад +56

      I bet when he opened his mouth and started spouting about quantum physics, even psychopathic murderers stayed away from him and left him alone.

    • @Jablicek
      @Jablicek 25 дней назад +10

      @@eudaenomic I bet he tried to teach them physics. I hope some of it stuck with those who were interested.

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 24 дня назад +15

      It is very likely that he soon earned the respect of his fellow prisoners. I can imagine that they would have protected him.

  • @ChiefBridgeFuser
    @ChiefBridgeFuser 25 дней назад +151

    "Empty" bag that weighs 4 and a half pounds extra. Particle Physicists who skipped Newton's stuff...and a practical idea of how much stuff weighs. 😮😅😂

    • @JonBrase
      @JonBrase 24 дня назад +24

      "It has a strong coupling to the Higgs field"

    • @NJL401
      @NJL401 24 дня назад +22

      "Correct to within an order of magnitude..."

    • @AloisMahdal
      @AloisMahdal 18 дней назад +2

      OR his underwear was very heavy

  • @tinytim71301
    @tinytim71301 26 дней назад +198

    I represented several middle-aged men that admitted getting involved with drug deals because of a new “romantic interest.”

    • @dailysmelly9756
      @dailysmelly9756 25 дней назад +1

      Interesting.

    • @DWinegarden2
      @DWinegarden2 24 дня назад +28

      I have represented many young women who “unsuspectingly” became involved in the drug industry because of a new boyfriend. “Love leads another innocent heart astray.”

    • @DominikPlaylists
      @DominikPlaylists 24 дня назад +3

      But also, what is the whole point with the romanic interest? Isn't it just so much easier to slip the drugs into the luggage of the guy and then steal the luggage when he arrives?

    • @dailysmelly9756
      @dailysmelly9756 24 дня назад +2

      @@DominikPlaylists but how would you get the opportunity?

    • @tinytim71301
      @tinytim71301 24 дня назад +4

      @@DWinegarden2 No doubt. I have also done dumb things in the hopes of finding love-at least what I thought was love at the time😁.

  • @terrydanks
    @terrydanks 25 дней назад +343

    Speaking as the 80 year-old man that I am, I can only quote "there's no fool like an old fool."
    How can one so smart be so stupid?

    • @Berend-ov8of
      @Berend-ov8of 25 дней назад +37

      You think looking for ever smaller particles is less stupid ?

    • @lavieestlenfer
      @lavieestlenfer 25 дней назад

      Some of the dumbest people I know have PhDs. Smart in one tiny area of knowledge doesn't carryover to anything else. But PhDs tend to think it does.

    • @randomizer2240
      @randomizer2240 24 дня назад +8

      😂​@@Berend-ov8of

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 24 дня назад +15

      everyone is stupid mate, trust me.
      or maybe not.

    • @roelin360
      @roelin360 24 дня назад +29

      stupidity is a spectrum. People often have this fallacious belief that if someone is an expert in one thing that they're necessarily clever in general, which is how we get chiropractors writing raw fruitarian diet books.

  • @dansv1
    @dansv1 25 дней назад +84

    What a bizarre way to recruit a drug mule.

    • @Berend-ov8of
      @Berend-ov8of 25 дней назад +2

      And risky at that.

    • @ColinDaviesNZ
      @ColinDaviesNZ 24 дня назад +13

      actually I think it is a routine method. The bait may have been sold to the drug dealers.

    • @Lifeonthefastlane007
      @Lifeonthefastlane007 24 дня назад +2

      I'm glad I heard the story, for all I know I would get catfished by drug maniacs 😅 please no

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 24 дня назад +5

      ​@@Berend-ov8of risky how? The real identity of the chat partner remains unknown. Seems to have worked out alright. The material itself costs nothing, the only cost is in transporting it. A calculated expense from mule and material lost. Easy to try again.
      Using a reputable old man was probably how enough of these transactions succeed.

    • @bassc
      @bassc 24 дня назад +1

      Honeytraps happen all the time for money scams, so equally 2kg is a very good pay day when it comes.

  • @inxiti
    @inxiti 25 дней назад +88

    Sounds like my last weekend.
    Who amongst us hasn't been scammed, spent time in prison, and predicted new particles while lecturing other prisoners?

  • @carlbrenninkmeijer8925
    @carlbrenninkmeijer8925 26 дней назад +99

    I enjoyed this. He is what we in England used to call: an eccentric. Which is not bad to be, bright but a bit different. The colors of the rainbow of life.

    • @johnbrobston1334
      @johnbrobston1334 24 дня назад +1

      I dunno--I think he's heading into "daft" territory.

    • @johannuys7914
      @johannuys7914 21 день назад +1

      @@johnbrobston1334 At that age? Worth it, I'd say.

    • @andrewchilvers4304
      @andrewchilvers4304 21 день назад

      Either a criminal or dangerously vulnerable, shouldn't be in a position of trust

    • @hamishmuirhead9917
      @hamishmuirhead9917 4 дня назад

      Yeah... This is sort of eccentric as in "divulged state secrets". Mind you we had a lot of those in England: Kim Philby, Anthony Blunt...

  • @jf-jx4ym
    @jf-jx4ym 24 дня назад +22

    My random Tinder matches from 10 different countries would never do this to me.

  • @MarioRugeles
    @MarioRugeles 24 дня назад +29

    That invitation to Bolivia was clearly a huge red flag.

    • @the11382
      @the11382 24 дня назад +3

      Even in Bolivia, he had a chance to realize he's been scammed. Don't pick up the bag and go home.

    • @marknewton6984
      @marknewton6984 7 дней назад

      Bolivia?😮

  • @Private-GtngxNMBKvYzXyPq
    @Private-GtngxNMBKvYzXyPq 25 дней назад +25

    Loneliness claims another casualty.

  • @MrKevb1540
    @MrKevb1540 26 дней назад +121

    I feel terrible for him. I can't believe this wasn't bigger news. I wish him the best in the future.

    • @Thomas-gk42
      @Thomas-gk42 25 дней назад +17

      I don´t! An old man, who looks for love in that way among supermodels, is the same type who looks for new particles in new supercolliders.

    • @ajs1998
      @ajs1998 25 дней назад +18

      ​@@Thomas-gk42consenting adults should be able to live however they want

    • @OmateYayami
      @OmateYayami 25 дней назад +9

      I don't. For a supposedly smart man he made a long string of dumb decisions. It's good he got only two years after actually hauling 2kgs of coke across the border. And it's good his life didn't collapse but it's also good he didn't go unscathed.

    • @supayambaek
      @supayambaek 25 дней назад

      both of them are consenting adults, you have no right to judge them ​@@Thomas-gk42

    • @supayambaek
      @supayambaek 25 дней назад +16

      ​@@OmateYayami this is a boomer we're talking about. it's unfair him to be tech/street savvy. a certain intelligence don't apply to all area of life; just because you are good at numbers, doesn't mean you can detect scam right away.

  • @GordonAlley
    @GordonAlley 26 дней назад +91

    I love how Sabine segued from the topic to the Brilliant commercial at the end. 🙂

    • @TheGreatSteve
      @TheGreatSteve 25 дней назад +3

      Sponsorblock cut that off for me, so I had the opposite experience.

    • @mwolfe3219
      @mwolfe3219 25 дней назад +1

      Sabine’s best seque ever

    • @Nerd3927
      @Nerd3927 24 дня назад +2

      That is actually the reason for these short, witty and entertaining videos.

    • @axisskin
      @axisskin 24 дня назад

      The very best ever! A bit like our Queen!

    • @hamishmuirhead9917
      @hamishmuirhead9917 4 дня назад

      Sooo. Big question. Will Brilliant stop you from responding to messages from highly photogenic prospective sexual partners on the basis that they are actually fraudulent? Or NordWeb?

  • @Lifeonthefastlane007
    @Lifeonthefastlane007 24 дня назад +8

    I like how he's so passionate in physics he keeps doing research in prison! He even teach inmates!
    I give up easily! He didn't!
    What an inspiration!

  • @thomasgebert6119
    @thomasgebert6119 25 дней назад +32

    I watch a lot of videos on catfish stuff. Sometimes a small part of me thinks “serves you right for being so naive and for thinking a literal bikini model is interested in someone in their 60s”, but generally I stand by the fact that no one deserves this.
    I think it can be easy to forget how much loneliness can screw with your judgement. Framton probably is a pretty smart guy, but he was extremely lonely and that was weaponized by a scammer and it basically ruined his life. I think it’s fair to judge him a little, but it’s also important to realize that this stuff really could happen to anyone. It doesn’t take an idiot to be fooled.

    • @wat5513
      @wat5513 10 дней назад

      "Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery...
      ...Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
      ... Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness."
      Max Ehrmann- Desiderata.

    • @marknewton6984
      @marknewton6984 7 дней назад

      But it helps....

  • @Mathemagical55
    @Mathemagical55 24 дня назад +5

    Mathematician André Weil was temporarily imprisoned during WW2 and made such spectacular progress that he wrote "My mathematics work is proceeding beyond my wildest hopes, and I am even a bit worried - if it's only in prison that I work so well, will I have to arrange to spend two or three months locked up every year?"

  • @Deeplycloseted435
    @Deeplycloseted435 24 дня назад +22

    Reverse image search, ALWAYS. So many liars and scammers out there.

    • @esquilax5563
      @esquilax5563 24 дня назад

      That wouldn't help in this case since the scammer was claiming to be the real person shown in the photos

    • @kapsi
      @kapsi 24 дня назад +4

      I just assume anyone contacting me is trying to sell me something or scam me.

    • @dr.jamesolack8504
      @dr.jamesolack8504 24 дня назад +1

      @@kapsi
      Assume nothing.

    • @kapsi
      @kapsi 24 дня назад

      @@dr.jamesolack8504 men just aren't contacted by women they don't know for non-"gimme money" reasons, at least in my experience

    • @TheWolfgangGrimmer
      @TheWolfgangGrimmer 23 дня назад

      @@dr.jamesolack8504 It's a perfectly fine thing to assume, that's what voicemail is for. Anything you don't care enough about to leave traces of is something I don't need to bother listening to.

  • @karenm2669
    @karenm2669 25 дней назад +29

    The book isn’t a bestseller because the story is so completely routine by now. Intelligent people being catfished, or scammed out of their life savings is, to my constant astonishment, an everyday event.

    • @brainites
      @brainites 25 дней назад +1

      Of course, everyone is "scammable".

    • @meta7gear
      @meta7gear 24 дня назад +9

      To be fair, most of the time the catfished only end up losing some money, not spending two years in a notorious South American prison so this one certainly does have a unique spin on what you rightfully describe as a routine story

    • @johnbrobston1334
      @johnbrobston1334 24 дня назад +1

      I remember the chief engineer at a huge aerospace company getting cleaned out in a real estate scam. Personally that made me happy, the guy was a jerk.

    • @kaasmeester5903
      @kaasmeester5903 22 дня назад +1

      Even more astonishing is that it’s not always a pretty young girl doing the scamming either; often as not it’s a smooth-talking suit in a sports car selling iffy investments door to door. Plenty of doctors, judges and scientists falling for these scams.

  • @PresCalvinCoolidge
    @PresCalvinCoolidge 24 дня назад +19

    The epitome of "book smart" but no street sense. How could he not have been suspicious? I suppose a missive ego could explain it.

    • @luddity
      @luddity 22 дня назад +1

      That's usually their downfall. What woman could resist all this? Makes them easy pickings.

    • @TediI47
      @TediI47 21 день назад +3

      Surviving the two years in an Argentinian prison as a 68 year old physicist while witnessing someone being shanked to death right next to him, to me, proved he got street smart as well.

  • @davidrousseau7367
    @davidrousseau7367 24 дня назад +10

    I do remember a keynote talk of his at a conference in Nashville in 2000 something. On model building and bileptons. I had heard about him being arrested but nothing more, thanks for completing the story.

    • @KNemo1999
      @KNemo1999 24 дня назад

      Funny... Did you live on Rivermeade with your mom and grandmother in the 80's? Small world.

  • @alieninmybeverage
    @alieninmybeverage 26 дней назад +82

    This story needs a Particle Psychologist.

    • @fiddley
      @fiddley 24 дня назад +4

      "So, this entanglement you feel with your twin, how does that make you feel?" "Like they know exactly what I'm going to do, and when I do it, they always do the opposite 😭"

    • @freesk8
      @freesk8 24 дня назад

      Was it the truth quark, or the beauty quark?

    • @alieninmybeverage
      @alieninmybeverage 24 дня назад +1

      @@freesk8 it was the elusive dank quark

    • @adamnealis
      @adamnealis 24 дня назад +1

      One moment I'm up and the next I'm down. Is that bipolar?

    • @adamnealis
      @adamnealis 24 дня назад +1

      Even when strange, she's still beautiful.

  • @Mike-yt4jq
    @Mike-yt4jq 25 дней назад +46

    Life truly can be stranger than fiction. Unfortunately . Thanks Sabine.

  • @LabGoats
    @LabGoats 24 дня назад +7

    Not saying he deserved prison, but a lot of trouble could be avoided if old men just tried dating women their own age instead.

    • @hamishmuirhead9917
      @hamishmuirhead9917 4 дня назад +1

      I am told that one can get quite a reasonable income from being a handsome male and being prepared to date older women in Monaco.

  • @GabrielVelasco
    @GabrielVelasco 24 дня назад +20

    This story clearly demonstrates the extremely important and greatly misunderstood difference between intelligence and wisdom.

    • @marknewton6984
      @marknewton6984 7 дней назад

      I worked 30 years with Ph.D's. They tended to be dumb in common sense.😎

  • @ufukisitmezoglu7014
    @ufukisitmezoglu7014 26 дней назад +64

    Even the smartest and most prestigious people are not free from the clutches of bodily desire. What a shame.

    • @pikiwiki
      @pikiwiki 25 дней назад +8

      Yes. If only they had more self control. Why can't they be disciplined, like the scientific model they embody?

    • @shantoreywilkins651
      @shantoreywilkins651 25 дней назад +1

    • @Trititaty
      @Trititaty 25 дней назад +14

      Mitosis is the only way for particle physicists!

    • @zotriczaoh7098
      @zotriczaoh7098 25 дней назад +9

      I'm glad they show their humanity from time to time. We should not burden scientists with expectations beyond the work they do. Of course they must suffer consequences like anyone else

    • @b43xoit
      @b43xoit 25 дней назад +3

      Desire's one thing, but how one acts on it or not, adds a wide range of freedom of movement.

  • @larryscott3982
    @larryscott3982 24 дня назад +6

    How many red flags can a professor ignore?
    At the airport security screening they ask ‘did you pack all of your luggage yourself? Has anyone given you luggage or parcels to carry with you? Has any if your luggage been out your sight or control?’
    And what rock has he lived under to not pickup on her dodging. He’s an elder and elderly get scammed. But a PhD elder I thought would be on his game of skeptical analysis.

  • @simonpayne7994
    @simonpayne7994 25 дней назад +29

    Unfortunately, judicial systems, in common with all other human organizations, do not always function according to their original intent. That a professor can fall for a picture of a non-existent well-equipped lady is nothing unusual and, more often or not, turns into financially supporting a life-saving operation for the lady's equally non-existent mother. That the poor guy was pulled into a drug smuggling operation - that is really nasty. I feel awfully sorry for him.

    • @EndingSimple
      @EndingSimple 24 дня назад +7

      I remember reading the biography of a Middle Eastern man who'd become British. He said that in his old country, the police were so corrupt and lazy that they would arrest the people who reported a murder instead of finding the murderer. He mentioned this in the context of finding the body of a young girl and having his father tell him to forget about it. Justice in the world is never guaranteed.

    • @adamnealis
      @adamnealis 24 дня назад +3

      Justice is blind.
      Sometimes also deaf and very very stupid.

    • @johannuys7914
      @johannuys7914 21 день назад

      @@EndingSimple Every system in the world (judicial, economical, religious) is still a fiction. Conjured up by human brains. Money only works because everybody believes in it. Same goes for human rights in most countries, etc. Bottom line, don't trust justice...

  • @stephengrimmer35
    @stephengrimmer35 21 день назад +8

    Professors who visited him in prison? A new meaning for visiting professors

  • @glenmacdonald3477
    @glenmacdonald3477 24 дня назад +10

    What a champ with his work ethic!

  • @DrKrankeit
    @DrKrankeit 25 дней назад +14

    That's where friends should step in. I know a person intentionally puts blinders on sometimes, but a real friend steps in to help. Scams always have some enticements, and money and playing to ego are tops. I know people will laugh and say, "how can someone be so smart, yet so stupid."

    • @vaakdemandante8772
      @vaakdemandante8772 24 дня назад +5

      seems he just didn't have any

    • @hamishmuirhead9917
      @hamishmuirhead9917 4 дня назад

      @@vaakdemandante8772 Or maybe it was a process of "Justice is being observed! We have listened to the evidence!" etc, etc.
      It can take decades to get unjust sentences overturned. Even with the best of friends.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 25 дней назад +13

    Sabine, I'm a poor guy from Brazil... But they already tried to scam me. But my skepticism always saves me... Anyway, go figure.
    Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @Quroxify
    @Quroxify 25 дней назад +26

    "Strange what desire can make foolish people do." Chris Issacs

    • @carlosgaspar8447
      @carlosgaspar8447 25 дней назад

      peter would have played his guitar 9-5 while testing different string gauges.

    • @Pax.Alotin
      @Pax.Alotin 25 дней назад +3

      I met an Irish lass who bought a pint of Quark Ale..
      After drinking it - I saw all manner of - Strange & Charmed - particles.

    • @axisskin
      @axisskin 24 дня назад

      Totally, Sabina Tesoro is teaching us every day that very lesson

    • @Quroxify
      @Quroxify 24 дня назад

      @@Pax.Alotin three quarks for Muster Mark, as the legend goes eh?

    • @Pax.Alotin
      @Pax.Alotin 23 дня назад

      @@Quroxify Things are becoming 'Curiouser & curiouser' - with each passing looking glass.

  • @douglaswatt1582
    @douglaswatt1582 26 дней назад +41

    They'll have to amend the classic expression to drugs, sex, rock and roll . . . . . and particle physics. At least two movies and one book in the story thanks as ever to Sabine😂😂😂

    • @hamishmuirhead9917
      @hamishmuirhead9917 4 дня назад

      The world awaits the particle physics romance "Hadron Collider: Antiparticles who should never meet!"
      Or the XXX take "Hardon Collider: multiparticle interaction at its most colorful".

  • @andyiswonderful
    @andyiswonderful 25 дней назад +10

    Age is just a number. And is his case, a very big number.

  • @davidfleischman4808
    @davidfleischman4808 24 дня назад +6

    You turned that poor man's story into an add for Brilliant! Which is brilliant.

  • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC
    @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC 25 дней назад +16

    Well, at least he now knows that Instagram Models represent the *strong force* and 80-year-old divorced physicists represent the *weak force.*

    • @Kamal-ju6qx
      @Kamal-ju6qx 25 дней назад

      he was 68

    • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC
      @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC 25 дней назад

      @@Kamal-ju6qx *"he was 68"*
      ... He's 80 now.

    • @Kamal-ju6qx
      @Kamal-ju6qx 25 дней назад

      @@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC yes but the incident happened when he was 68.your comment say 80 years

    • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC
      @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC 25 дней назад

      @@Kamal-ju6qx *"yes but the incident happened when he was 68.your comment say 80 years"*
      ... Is that a major issue for you?

    • @Luthiart
      @Luthiart 24 дня назад

      He's not wrong.

  • @robertmiller1299
    @robertmiller1299 24 дня назад +4

    He maybe ought to have remembered the English adage: ‘There is no fool like an old fool’!

  • @DulceN
    @DulceN 25 дней назад +3

    What baffles me is that an older guy, no matter how high his IQ but with decades of experience in life, believes that a young ‘model’ is gaga for him. Not only that, he didn’t even become suspicious when she started giving him excuses to not meet and hopped from country to country. Please don’t let him out of the lab unescorted, he’s a risk to himself….

    • @Thomas-gk42
      @Thomas-gk42 25 дней назад +1

      Academic megalonania I guess.

  • @rwschumm
    @rwschumm 24 дня назад +5

    Ok Sabine, You've convinced me... I'll just stick to watching your channel instead of pursuing random supermodels on the internet.

  • @dailysmelly9756
    @dailysmelly9756 25 дней назад +8

    The biggest red flag, as always, is the girl being way too good looking for him. Those things only happen in movies. But he was thinking with the wrong head.

    • @siddhartacrowley8759
      @siddhartacrowley8759 25 дней назад +1

      Do you know Slavoj Zizek?

    • @dailysmelly9756
      @dailysmelly9756 25 дней назад

      @siddhartacrowley8759 a Yugoslavian philosopher with a net worth of $1 - 5 million.

    • @GermanTaffer
      @GermanTaffer 24 дня назад +3

      This is a part of our inner narcissism, that all of us have. I too.
      I am so great , I am soooo special , such a wonderful, gifted woman can recognize my very special, unique soul.
      😅
      Should stay on every gravestone. 😁

  • @censortube3778
    @censortube3778 25 дней назад +10

    One of the most critical life skills is having an objective view of your own Sexual Marketplace Value ....

    • @Vor10min.
      @Vor10min. 25 дней назад +1

      Being sceptic would have been enough in this case.

  • @uxigadur
    @uxigadur 25 дней назад +20

    I remember the case. It was big news here in argentina. When he Said a girl Made me bring this bag we were all, "yeah, sure". Because for us it Is so hard to imagine being so naive. His friends defense only Made things look More ridiculous. Glad he Is ok now.

  • @jazznik2
    @jazznik2 25 дней назад +7

    Thanx, Sabine, for this great story. I'm really surprised I havent heard this story reported anywhere else. It's one more example of truth being stranger than fiction.

  • @kaynewling3455
    @kaynewling3455 25 дней назад +6

    You are simply wonderful Sabine. An absolute inspiration for we ordinary folk to wrap our minds around physics, and to treat information with caution while enjoying the humor in many of life's situations.

  • @mantaray2239
    @mantaray2239 24 дня назад +4

    Mark Twain - 'Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't.'
    So many parts of the story seem unlikely. Yet one wrong move at a time of extreme need, could be the undoing of even the most law abiding among us.

  • @user-th5ui4ib3y
    @user-th5ui4ib3y 24 дня назад +2

    I think what Mr Frampton did is strange and not okay, but I really like that you do not judge him just by the act and try to see it from his perspective.

  • @user-xj5xp6qz5g
    @user-xj5xp6qz5g 25 дней назад +27

    I couldnt imagine being so utterly clueless.

    • @Berend-ov8of
      @Berend-ov8of 25 дней назад +17

      Don't worry, you'll get there some day.

    • @rednarok
      @rednarok 24 дня назад +3

      THOSE ARE THE WORDS EVERY LOVER SAYS

    • @rednarok
      @rednarok 24 дня назад

      caps

    • @MrStevos
      @MrStevos 24 дня назад +2

      UTTERLY ! You would think your average 10 year old kid, would have seen though this one ?

    • @DominikPlaylists
      @DominikPlaylists 24 дня назад +1

      yeah, this guy went to school in 1950 so he is probably about Joe Biden's age.

  • @greensombrero3641
    @greensombrero3641 25 дней назад +13

    Frampton - do you feel like I do.....

  • @RichardTasgal
    @RichardTasgal 24 дня назад +5

    To think that I once considered the professor character in The Blue Angel (1930) unrealistic....

  • @denyshevtsov
    @denyshevtsov 25 дней назад +11

    No one is immune to being deceived, regardless of their intelligence or social status. Thank you Professor Sabine for this fabulous story

  • @user-uj9cc5ch5p
    @user-uj9cc5ch5p 24 дня назад +4

    This was a change of pace Sabine, I enjoyed it. Do more. Travis X

  • @mikereid1195
    @mikereid1195 24 дня назад +4

    I love Sabine's accent pronunciation for Chay-pel Hill, it is now the only way I'll ever remember the name 😃

    • @hamishmuirhead9917
      @hamishmuirhead9917 4 дня назад

      They have a committee for this in Germany; it;s the Auslandrichtigscheisssprechenbuero.

    • @hamishmuirhead9917
      @hamishmuirhead9917 4 дня назад

      To natural English speakers, mispronunciation is more of an inherited F-U-ness rather than a willingness so follow the absurdities of a 500 year old orthography to asinine conclusion.
      Although I would protest that German dictionaries tend not to make it obvious when the French pronunciations of 'J' and soft 'G' are employed.
      Viva l;inconsistencé!

  • @dalwand
    @dalwand 24 дня назад +3

    My life motto for many years already: "Never underestimate the stupidity of smart people."
    Originally meant to describe the educated Ph.D's in Germany around WW2who crafted "die endlösung" it is often applicable to many topics like nowadays politics, myself, and this physics professor.

  • @Y.Strizheus
    @Y.Strizheus 24 дня назад +2

    This was a story in the New York Times a few years ago, actually. In that story they have emails and text messages from him documenting that he knew there were drugs in the suitcase and that he was excited about the money. He was scammed, yes, but not innocent of drug trafficking.

    • @michaelgarcia6400
      @michaelgarcia6400 8 дней назад

      I read the article and it does not make it clear that he knew about the drugs. The article is from 2013

  • @thetowerkeeper
    @thetowerkeeper 24 дня назад +3

    Poor man. Luckily when these bikini models contact me because I look "hot" I check the mirror for a reality check! LOL!

  • @drmemento
    @drmemento 24 дня назад +4

    Best pitch for Brilliant I've seen yet!

  • @scottmcandrew9642
    @scottmcandrew9642 24 дня назад +3

    Just wow. I do think he might now indeed be edgy enough to warrant a date with a younger woman. Just probably not that one. Or any other super model for that matter. But surely he can impress someone with his tales of intrigue, smuggling, and prison physics

  • @Bassotronics
    @Bassotronics 24 дня назад +2

    Such a smart guy who avoided obvious red flags. And he flew over to that country? Wow.. he earned his demise for being too gullible!

  • @mtaur4113
    @mtaur4113 25 дней назад +27

    I was somehow expecting supermodel to be a physics thing. I am a sweet Summer child.

    • @someguy5977
      @someguy5977 24 дня назад +2

      It's the new model of a theoretical particle, 'the supermodel'. "Star Trek" makes use of the supermodel in its biggest successes, like Kirstey Alley in "Star Trek 2: Wrath of Khan" and Seven of Nine in "Star Trek: Voyager".

    • @antman7673
      @antman7673 24 дня назад +1

      Ver physical, this supermodel.

  • @luismauro5906
    @luismauro5906 24 дня назад

    This was brilliant indeed! Hollywood needs you Sabine!

  • @nonoyorbusness
    @nonoyorbusness 25 дней назад +4

    It totally works as long as the man has a large fortune!

  • @aaronjennings8385
    @aaronjennings8385 26 дней назад +18

    I love the movie idea.

    • @Mike-yt4jq
      @Mike-yt4jq 25 дней назад +2

      I'd watch it. I'm sure the Hollywood producers would also insist on dramatic embellishment and surely come up with some fillers to provide a more viewer approved version of reality. As they do.

    • @jeffbguarino
      @jeffbguarino 24 дня назад +1

      Yes get Rowan Atkinson to play the prof. Or maybe Donald Trump ? Trump can act, he was in a movie already.

    • @EyMannMachHin
      @EyMannMachHin 22 дня назад +1

      I totally see Stephen Fry in that role.

    • @jeffbguarino
      @jeffbguarino 21 день назад

      @@EyMannMachHin I didn't know who Stephen Fry was but I checked and he already went to prison and he is an actor who looks the part.

  • @4thesakeofitname
    @4thesakeofitname 25 дней назад +3

    Oh dear madam Hossenfelder, we should all be careful in all sorts of illicit dreams..

  • @deadiemeyers1661
    @deadiemeyers1661 24 дня назад +2

    "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." Yup. That Apostle Paul guy sure knew his onions.

  • @peterhall6656
    @peterhall6656 24 дня назад +1

    There are people who spend their waking hours working out how to use human fraility to their advantage and they are generally better at their art than particle physicists are at finding new particles.

  • @sonjak8265
    @sonjak8265 24 дня назад +10

    The fact that he is a particle physicist shows how naive he is.

  • @matthewlloyd3255
    @matthewlloyd3255 24 дня назад +3

    Good story. I studied physics in Melbourne, Australia in 1995 and 1996 as part of an undergraduate degree and I'm pretty sure I've heard the name "Frampton" before - maybe in a textbook or something, name was familiar to me.

  • @rayrwyr
    @rayrwyr 7 дней назад +1

    Since he was thinking with the wrong head, he was off by two zeros when he calculated the probability of a young supermodel falling for an old physics professor.

  • @justincarrasco3680
    @justincarrasco3680 24 дня назад +2

    I'm a simple man. I see my three favorite things listed in the thumbnail, I click.

  • @Taomantom
    @Taomantom 26 дней назад +9

    Anyone who has read spy novels knew where this was going. If she is either to smart, to young, to pretty it has to be a honey trap. Stay in your lane gentlemen!

    • @zotriczaoh7098
      @zotriczaoh7098 25 дней назад +1

      You could still invite her in. Just avoid her lane! After all you might still get some benefits if she is persistent as well as dishonest ;-)

    • @ethelroast9671
      @ethelroast9671 25 дней назад +5

      I'll stay in my lane, IF you learn the difference between to & too, Taomantom. Deal? 🤝

  • @olafzijnbuis
    @olafzijnbuis 25 дней назад +3

    Dutch author Ilja Leonard Pfeijffer wrote a book based on this story. It is called "Peachez, een romance".
    I am not sure if it was translated into any other languages.

  • @charlescoleman6896
    @charlescoleman6896 22 дня назад +1

    The best part was when he gave an interview from jail, in which he attacked the UNC Provost for failing to force the Argentine courts to release him, and suggested that this was because the man was jealous of his academic work.

  • @richardkerner5817
    @richardkerner5817 24 дня назад +2

    A few things Sabine omitted in this joyful video: 1) In 1983 Frampton married a French American called Anne-Marie Curran. They divorced in 1998. After the "honeytrap scandal" was revealed, his former wife commented that although Frampton was a very learned and talented person, psychologically he was more like a 5-year old child, extremely naive and totally egocentic. 2) When the sentence was turned into a house arrest, fellow argentinian physicists provided a temporary haven at their home. It took only a month before Frampton tried to have an affair with his host's wife. Then they asked him to leave, and found another elderly couple to offer him hospitality. 3) Denise Milani's real name is Denisa Krajickova, and she was born in 1976 in Frydek-Mistek (then Czechoslovakia). Later she went to the USA, became a model and acquired alerican citizenship. 4) I share Sabine's view concerning the authors of the honeytrap: Frampton was targeted by a lan (or a few people) who lust have known him personally and were quite certain that he would fall for such a childish story. Most probably, his former students or former collaborators.

    • @Thomas-gk42
      @Thomas-gk42 24 дня назад +1

      Interesting details, thanks. Fits the story😉

    • @emmagatewood3898
      @emmagatewood3898 17 дней назад +1

      Regarding #2- what on earth is wrong with this man?? As if smuggling drugs and being sent to a South American prison wasn't living dangerously enough!🤦 I think he must fancy himself as another Indiana Jones- respected college professor by day, daring adventurer by night, and irresistible to women at all times. 🤣

  • @rsummers1974ify
    @rsummers1974ify 25 дней назад +6

    As Always the same Forces that hold the universe together ❤ can rip it Apart.
    Thank you for sharing.

    • @brainites
      @brainites 25 дней назад +2

      They say ❤ is the greatest magic for obvious reasons. ❤ can make and unmake.

  • @SmallGuyonTop
    @SmallGuyonTop 24 дня назад +3

    Now THIS is real APPLIED Physics! 😀

  • @ingvaraberge7037
    @ingvaraberge7037 23 дня назад +1

    There is a "true crime" genre, and there is true humor. Marvellous story. Thank you!

  • @ChristopherBond
    @ChristopherBond 25 дней назад +2

    You are the absolute best Sabine

  • @Corwin256
    @Corwin256 25 дней назад +5

    I wonder how much of this is related to him being a Brit in Argentina, a country which seems to be hanging on to their ridiculous beef with the UK.

    • @jeffbguarino
      @jeffbguarino 24 дня назад +1

      I think he would use his US passport since he is dual ? Maybe he doesn't have one.

  • @philochristos
    @philochristos 25 дней назад +29

    That is a really sad story. A women on Instagram told me "age is just a number," and I discontinued our conversation. That's just a red flag.
    EDIT for context: A young pretty girl sent me a private message on instagram just to say hi. I said hi back, and she started asking me questions about myself, including my age. When she asked my age, and I told her 40-something (I can't remember how long ago this was), she said, "Age is just a number." There are no pictures of me on Instagram, so she has no idea what I look like, and there was no reason for her to make that comment unless she was planning to steer the conversation in a romantic way. Since it seemed extremely unlikely that a young pretty woman would send a private message to a guy she knows nothing about and whose picture she hasn't even seen to initiate a romantic connection, I was pretty certain it was some kind of scam. There are a lot of romance scams out there.

    • @vikingro
      @vikingro 25 дней назад +1

      "Age is just a number" - after a certain age, for men usually somewhere around the "mid-life" crisis (40s?), women not so sure but if I have to bet, I'm sure that there are some babushkas to show me what's what and who's who.

    • @Pax.Alotin
      @Pax.Alotin 25 дней назад

      Especially if that number is under 18.

    • @DJWESG1
      @DJWESG1 25 дней назад +1

      I assumed it was a old granny looking for a bit of fun.. how wrong I was.

    • @reekinronald6776
      @reekinronald6776 25 дней назад +3

      Good for you. It's amazing, and a bit sad, how many men can convince themselves that in old age a young woman could still be interested in them. It indicates a rather deep hole and need in their life.

    • @mak4374
      @mak4374 25 дней назад

      Hey! I meant it!
      🤣🤣🤣

  • @EugeneMaster
    @EugeneMaster 24 дня назад +2

    “Sitting in a prison library 9 to 5 and writing physics papers doesn’t seem to make all that much difference to tenure in the United States.” 😂💀

  • @thomasfox4513
    @thomasfox4513 25 дней назад +15

    As a long time subscriber, I feared this vid was using click-bate. While not the typical SH show I love, it was a fabulous story, wonderfully told.
    Thank you for all you do.

  • @user-fc8xw4fi5v
    @user-fc8xw4fi5v 25 дней назад +3

    Damn, he fell for the oldest trick in the book! The ole, "pose as a supermodel online to lure an oblivious American man into carrying a bag from Bolivia that's loaded with cocaine on a flight to Europe"

  • @AbuzarToronto
    @AbuzarToronto 24 дня назад +1

    You are so right... normalcy is very fragile... people have this bias to think things will be alright, but most folks on the planet are suffering quite horribly.

  • @rascalman7
    @rascalman7 24 дня назад +1

    Once again, so good! Sabine's story hour. Ha! Love it!

  • @Zulonix
    @Zulonix 25 дней назад +6

    Paul Frampton AKA Count Boobula.

  • @jimmyzhao2673
    @jimmyzhao2673 25 дней назад +5

    The classic "Those aren't my Pants" defense.

  • @Clearphish
    @Clearphish 23 дня назад +1

    One of the best ad setups I've ever seen. 😊