Criterium Racing | Attacking vs. Patrolling | Race Analysis with TrainerRoad
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
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this is hands down the best cycling content someone can make would love to see more of this 100%
Glad to hear that Lazar! Keep tuning in for more content like this!
If you like the race commentary, leave a comment letting us know your biggest takeaway. As long as we know you like these videos, we’ll continue to do more! - Coach Jonathan
TrainerRoad Love it! My big takeaway is I need to come and race in Reno, love the look of this course.
It made me wonder how many times I had fallen into a gap that someone like Pete had forced me into.
TrainerRoad great vid! What cat was this race?
the insight is amazing. As a cat5 I don't have access to this kind of knowledge on a regular basis. Please make more videos like this!
Wow, I really liked watching the race with the commentary.
As a side note Jose is on our team sponsored by Trainer Road. It does work.
This is as good or better than the podcast, which is already my favorite cycling content out there! Keep it up!
Brilliant race commentary and questions. Watched a few times and still pick up valuable cues from the video and comments. Please make more videos like this.
Love this type of video. Please do more!!
Love Crit breakdowns!
Carson McClelland yeah the lap out provides welcome respite from the unrelenting brutality of forced hard riding
Awesome! I love this style of race breakdown video! Especially from these level of racers!
Love this, would love to see more of these. Would suggest making speed units the same. Understand u r trying to cater to overseas folks but more useful to compare speeds between Dave and Pete when they r in separate packs, either mph or kmh
You should totally get Jose on the show!
Super interesting stuff! Thanks for making it.
One of the more interesting takeaways from the commentary - how patient they are in letting things form up before using any energy to either chase or bridge up to potentially interesting moves. Pete messing with the sprinter by opening gaps and hearing the logic there was pretty fun as well.
so much useful info here. I'm gonna try some of them on my next ride. The tip from Pete about leaving gaps and letting someone else do the work is gold
We're so glad that our video gave you some valuable takeaways! Thanks for watching!
I like how how Dave just rolled off the front when someone flicked their elbow. As a Cat 5 racer still, I would have just assumed to go and take the next pull at the front. Good tactic to see used.
Doing my first crit later this year and found this video really helpful for getting some insight and advice. Keep 'em coming :)
Super interesting!
This might be the most interesting cycling video I've seen on youtube so far. Please make more!
I love this! Thank you for putting this out. Very informative.
Pete is such a beast. Amazing masterclass for the bigger guys out there
Great perspective for someone like me who raced years ago with no power meter and using one now , to compare where I was at and am now .
Superb, keep em coming.
keep it coming !! really love all of this
Enjoyed the perspective. Learned a lot! Thanks guys
This was awesome! I’d love having more videos like this to watch this winter!
This is a great format!! 😆👍
Thank you, this is so interesting and exiting to watch. It would be really nice to even look closer into this and other kind of races in relation to different kind of cycling profiles. It is really interesting to see and hear analysis about the race, tactics and strategies and effects on the cyclist depending of what is happening and how the riders react and act during a race.
We definitely should be doing more race analysis videos! ;)
Excellent addition to the portfolio. Really enjoyed it.
thanks for more ideas during the race
Really interesting video, thanks for sharing. One thing that was a bit off putting though was the mix of kph/mph on Dave and Pete's overlays.
Since Dave is an international racer, his Garmin was set up for kph instead of mph. Unfortunately, we didn't realize this until we were editing the videos and recorded data but for all future videos like this, the metrics will be the same. :)
TrainerRoad I liked it. I find it helpful to have both sets of units on screen so I don't have to convert them myself.
*if they're both going at the same speed when I happen to look
you guys are the best! so much fun watching it!
Keep going on the race analysis, please.
Great video, 6 stars! Was very interesting, held my attention throughout the whole video... except when Coach Chad popped up and interjected. Great product, podcast, and videos... thanks!
Thanks for doing this, I learned a lot! Found it interesting how they focused on speed as much as power. Just starting as cat 2 and I’ll be paying more attention to that moving forward. ✌️
That's a great takeaway Brandon! We're glad you were able to learn from this race analysis and apply it to your personal racing!
Great work. more videos like this. Maybe even an analysis to see which powerzones David and Pete are working in with relation to TR plans.
You can actually go into both of their ride files from the blog post below to see what zones they were working in through our Performance Analytics Tool! blog.trainerroad.com/criterium-race-analysis-attacking-vs-patrolling/
You guys... this is amazing. What a fantastic video!
Great video, really interesting. Looking forward to more!
Just when I thought it can’t get better!! Awsome!! Crits crits crits!!!!
Awesome video. Great race breakdown. Your videos are so much better then mine.
Thanks guys, love the analysis and inside tactics!
Thanks Hans! Keep an eye out for more in the coming weeks :)
This video was great! I learned so much and would love to see more.
Great breakdown! More please.
Loved the video! I am new to road racing and my dream is to participate in a crit race! It looks so damn fun! Where I live the level of the road riders is way higher than mine and it is really intimidating, as I am scared that they will just drop me after a few laps, however I will give it a try at some point! Please upload more crit videos. Pete is a beast! He is a behemoth on a bicycle! Hats off!
So glad you liked the video! Most local races have multiple race categories to choose from which ensures that there is an event for all skill and fitness levels. For example, the race you see here has a B and C section that each has their own separate starts earlier in the day. You should definitely check it out!
This was very interesting. I enjoyed it. It is like learning about the chess strategy of cycling.
We're glad you liked it! There's a lot more to crit racing than meets the eye!
during the mid race break that got caught, Jose, the smallest rider continues to position himself behind Pete the largest rider in the break.
Great videos!
Thanks so much!
That was great stuff. Well done
Any chance you can fill us in on the software workflow you used to pull this off? So awesome to have that many camera point of views and multiple data files (and something as simple as colouring the name to know who's camera). Brilliant stuff.
this was really interesting -thanks!
Would love to see something on a hill or with a climber. Love the stuff guys
Thanks for the suggestion! We are really liking the Race Analysis format, and we hope to continue trying new things throughout the race season :)
How do you shift gears during those long intense out of the saddle sprints? I would assume that you select a gear that feels right before launching your sprint but you spin out quick and then have to shift again and again, do you shift gears while doing a hard sprint out of the saddle?
Crits Plz!
Loved it!
Here's a question for you: I've always wondered if the huge base that pros do is mostly a trojan horse for weight loss (rather than mitochondria, etc., etc.). Or put differently, if I (a 6 hour/wk guy) were to lose 20 lb, I'd lose much power. If I went up to 20 hr/wk, I bet I'd lose that 20 lb, without losing power. True or false?
Its false. If you eat 12000kcal a day and burn like 8000 kcal you wont loose weight but train your cardiovascular system. If you dont eat enough of the right food it could be that you will destroy your muscle fibers and loose some power somehow, or you will get overtrained and even if you do 20hr/wk you will loose some energy after some weeks and feel less powerful. If you dont used to train that much there are certain points of fatigue which will occure sooner or less. peripher (not enough vascularity, mitochondria) or central (serotonin, low glycogen).Thats just a short summary. Training without or less carbohydrates will train your ''fat burning'' but wont be as effective as using carbohydrates for a powerful workout (crit or race), because it simply takes too long to provide enough energy. If you just do brevets using fat is totally ok and you wont have that high energy consumption peaks which can be fueled by carbs.
What overlay is this in the GoPro footage? Really great analysis and podcast
We use a software called Davinchi Resolve where you can overlay the videos, export and then upload that into Garmin VIRB Edit where you sync up the gpx file and put all of the data templates on.
TrainerRoad thanks so much! Awesome platform and getting to know it. Going to really support my cycling
6:55 is that Jeff from norcal?
Hi, Can I start serious road and crit racing on giant contend 1?
Good video, please tell me how to get as swole as Pete and get that sick FTP
So glad you enjoyed the video, Brian! Here are a few starting points on how to be like Pete:
Step one: Grow out your hair and beard so that you look like Thor
Step two: Sign up for TrainerRoad and use one of our training plans to see your FTP sky rocket ;-)
Great insight into local racing, seeing this has made me less intimidated about crit racing.
Great to hear David! Crit racing is an incredibly fun and exciting form of racing. :)
Nate's turn for one of these crit vids. I think I would learn more from some of his mistakes... Jk. I just think his logic would be more at my level. These guys do magic tricks. I aint ready for that
I agree. I want to be in the race with Pete and he can tell me how dumb I am. You learn a lot by seeing what not to do.
Good stuff, you said upgrade points,,, what category is this race?
This was a local P 1/2/3 Race :)
Wish I had that power output. To old and not enough time.
where is this critical and what is it called?
This is the Reno Wheelmen Aircenter Crit
What level are these "super fast bike racers"?
They are both pro racers. Dave rides for Marc Pro and does international UCI races. Pete rides for Clif Bar and does major national crits like Athens Twilight in the pro field. You can see what that's like here: ruclips.net/video/RCXmil-lfs/видео.html
Can you show shady tactics in one of your videos? Like sabotage and collusion kind of stuff
The respect of your competitors is a valuable thing, and it is something that is earned through clean and honest racing, so we wouldn't want to make a video that glamorizes shady tactics. However, if we see shady tactics in play from other's in the race, we will be sure to talk about it!
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Why are these posts so long?? You can cut the useless chater and bring it down to a more bearable 15min.
You guys are racist discriminating against Jose