Rara-Avis Sims Horten IX / Ho 229 - First Airshow Aerobatic Display - Microsoft Flight Simulator
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- Today we're trying out the new Horten IX / Ho 229 (…or Gotha Go 229) by Rara-Avis Sims, over the fantastic freeware EDRC Marpingen scenery and check out its aerobatic capabilities.
As with Rara-Avis’ Wren and Flying Flea I’ve been really looking forward to the Horten, as it is such an iconic aircraft, but one I wouldn’t have expected to see in MSFS.
As was the case with previous releases by Rara-Avis Sims, the visual model is fantastic, with tons of details, sharp textures and nice features. The sounds are quite good too and it’s great to see another custom sound pack (as the Flying Flea had to use Asobo sounds).
The flight model overall feels good, it requires quite a bit of rudder inputs and especially during steep turns it is possible to run out of rudder authority. I think with a flying wing design that is plausible. Takeoffs and Landings are also unusual, as you touch down with the nose gear first and lift the main gear on takeoff before the nose wheel leaves the ground. It’s great to see this idiosyncrasy represented in the sim.
When it comes to the performance of the aircraft it is however very overpowered in my opinion. I used about 60% power during takeoff and 50% during the rest of the flight. But still the aircraft accelerated extremely quickly and flew at around 700 kph without any issues.
Which leads us to the main issue, the engine modeling. A real Jumo 004 idles at 3080 RPM and has its redline at 8700 RPM. The game version idles at 8000 RPM and reaches 14,000 RPM at full throttle. Another thing to mention is that a lot of the early jet engines spooled up extremely slowly and in fact if you advanced the throttle too quickly with the Jumo 004 there was a risk of engine fire. The game version spools up extremely quickly and the throttle is hard to adjust precisely. If you move it just a tiny bit from idle there is immediately a 2000 RPM jump.
Apart from the performance/engine issue I only noticed three other small things that could use some improving. I think like most tricycle geared aircraft of WWII the nose wheel shouldn’t be steerable. The stick animations are very abrupt and don’t reflect the user inputs 100 % (an issue with many MSFS aircraft). And the Flaps Indicator doesn’t seem to be correct. The light for “Aus” (Out) shines when the flaps are up and the light for “Ein” (In) shines when the flaps are down.
Overall, I think it’s a good addon and I’m happy to see a nice representation of a Horten in the sim. I really hope however, that the engine performance will get adjusted, as that would make it a truly great addon!
The Horten is currently available here:
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The Marpingen scenery by Luukas is available here:
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Hardware used:
Ryzen 7 5800X
32GB RAM
RTX 3080
00:00 Intro
00:42 Startup
03:05 Taxi
03:52 Takeoff
04:23 External Takeoff View
04:50 Climbing
06:15 Airshow Aerobatic Display
16:25 First Landing Attempt…Someone needs a new Spine
17:02 Second Landing Attempt
18:14 External Landing View
18:55 Taxi
20:25 Shutdown
21:29 Spectator View Takeoff
21:58 Spectator View Aerobatic Display
26:37 Spectator View First Landing
27:01 Spectator View Second Landing 
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Absolutely brilliant video… the opening flypast was spectacular… I can imagine the shock of the spectators when they first saw the plane in action. Great stuff!! 👏🏻👏🏻😄
Thank you very much! I'm glad you like it =) Yeah that would be quite a sight to see 😄The Messerschmitt Foundation used to operate a glider replica of a Me-163 Komet. I was lucky enough to see it fly quite a few years ago at an airshow. That was an unusual looking plane, but compared to the Horten it still looks quite conventional 😅
Lovely. Not only the simulation but the small-town, local feel of the landscape and airfield. Like a convincing glimpse into an alternate history where this aircraft had a truly successful debut in the 30s and 40s.
Thank you very much! I always enjoy small grass strips, also in real life, they always feel more homely/intimate. Marpingen, even though I've never been there is one of my favorite airfields in MSFS. I'm glad you like it too =) Who knows, there are three Me 262 replicas with modern engines flying, maybe someone someday is crazy enough to build a replica of a Horten, it would be a fun sight!
Sounds like a shit timeline. Though Germany still would have lost
@@alexgallagher4594 Agreed. The Nazis weren't rational enough to win, thankfully.
@@alexgallagher4594 as a German I'm also glad we lost the war. It's not a regime I would want to live under. But I wouldn't mind seeing a couple of these aircraft flying at airshows.
I can always count on you to make a video worth watching! thanks.
That's very kind, thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoy the videos =)
Just discovered your channel, amazing videos you have, please keep continuing! Exactly the content i like. Subbed!
Thank you very much! I'm glad you like the videos =) Thank you also for subscribing, I appreciate that.
There should be at least two videos coming this week. The first with Azurpoly's OV-10 Bronco and the second with the Do-31 =)
It is a pretty cool looking aircraft.. I always loved it in games but after having read some peoples experience with the horten gliders I wonder how practically to fly it might have been or not.
I agree, it's a very unusual but pretty design, especially in bare wood. I must admit I haven't read many flying reports, but I've read a report of a Horten IV. The pilot was very skeptical at first but started to enjoy it quite quickly once in the air.
Love the fly-by, I have good memories of flying the GO 229 in the old Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe game from the early '90s. This MSFS version is a little bit more high fidelity than that however....
Shame about the engine modelling not being quite right because otherwise this looks and sounds fantastic.
Thank you! I'm glad you like it =) I hadn't heard of that game before, but the cover artwork looks great. I remember flying it in Il-2 Sturmovik 1946 and catching fire on a regular basis because I advanced the throttle to quickly 😅
That's true. I hope that gets updated, otherwise it's a fantastic aircraft.
@@vintagesimulations SWOTL was basically my gateway drug into flight sims, went through a few after it (Aces over Europe/The Pacific, European Air War, etc) but didn't really find another that grabbed me the same way until the original IL-2 series. I did end up with the 1946 version of that but I don't have any memories of flying this particular aircraft in it for some reason (when typing my first post had to google if it was even in IL-2 and flyable).
As far as realistic early gen turbojets in MSFS goes have you tried the freeware, 1950's era, Cessna T-37 Tweet? The dev seems to have got them spot on as they take a while to react to throttle changes. No engine fires from rapid throttle changes though, only if don't follow the engine start checklist correctly and have excess fuel in the engine when combustion starts. The A-37 from the same dev has more modern turbojets which seem (to me at least) to respond faster although still not as fast as current turbine engines.
Either way it makes landing both of them "interesting" to land as you have to keep the turbine RPM at 70-80% so that in the event of a go-around you don't run out of runway waiting for them to spool back up. To slow down enough you have to use full flaps, air-brakes and thrust deflectors (that activate with the air-brakes at
@@AndrewBrowneABF81 The original Il-2 series was great, it was my gateway into flightsimming.
Yes, the T-37 and A-37 are fantastic and are among the best freeware aircraft out there in my opinion =)
Haha yeah, it can be quite challenging to land 😅
the FM is 100% arcade :D
The engine performance definitely is, resulting in way to high speeds and a sling shot like takeoff. But with the engines throttled back I think the rest of the flight model is quite good. I like that it is a bit unstable in yaw, I would expect that from a flying wing design.
I don't think this dragster acceleration on take off is correct.
But the rest is beautiful
Yeah, the engine performance is a bit optimistic 😅During the flight I only used ~ 50% thrust. I hope the performance gets adjusted a bit, as the rest is fantastic.
is this a mod of free update?
Sorry for the very late response =/ It's a payware addon by Rara-Avis. It's well worth it. Since the video the flight model received a major update and its performance is much more realistic now.
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You're of course right, thanks! How did I mess that up...I guess I shouldn't finish videos at 2-3 in the morning 😅
@@vintagesimulations it's very easy to do mistake like that:)
Thankfully the political insanity prevented this from being produced in 1940, because that would have given Germany air superiority in the pivotal 1943-1944 years in Europe.
Fully agree!
They still would have run out of fuel. Turning coal into vehicle fuel shows how desperate they were.
@@minirock000 that is true. But it would probably have resulted in many more casualties on both sides and it would have been likely, that the first atomic bombs would have been dropped on Germany.
@@vintagesimulations Germany did not get roasted only by the skin of her ass.
I always wondered about the personality types that a seemingly rational decent person knowing what the government was doing still took up arms to maintain the regime. I have seen a few episodes on that Ace German pilot that became very popular after The War (the name fails me). He seems a very considerate person so why do it? As a former infantry fighting man myself I would like to think I had the balls and decency to resign if my country fought a war like that. I know we did do Vietnam (not as bad) but they lied their asses off to convince us that we had to be there. That was before my time, I just joined Earth while we were still there. My sense of what is good and what is harmful is not affected by nationalism.
I know they toss out excuses like if things get so bad you will try any form of government. I suppose we will never know until it happens again. I'm just glad my time to jump back off the Earth is approaching.
Supposedly we stole the design for that wing after The War for the B-2 bomber as with everything else. The feed-tray cover for the M-60 is from the MG-42.
After looking at pictures for the MG-42 it seems we copied damn near the whole gun and just tuned it down to a rational more sustainable level.
Hitler was on something when he built this😂
The Horten brothers were on to something 😉 They are the real pioneers of flying wing designs. They were self-taught and started with flying wing models in their teens and build their first full size aircraft when they were just 18 & 20 years old. As far as I know the design of the Ho 229 also started before there was any contract with the government, but I'm not 100 % sure on that.
Haha sorry I just reread your comment...what a difference the word "to" can make 😂 It's definitely an unusual design 😅
@@vintagesimulations No Jack Northrup was: ruclips.net/video/3BadLT7CyRo/видео.html
@@vintagesimulations No Jack Northrup was first: ruclips.net/video/3BadLT7CyRo/видео.html
Kurt Tank special, w Horten bro ingenuity.