Your water faucet example is null. When useing Dumans you have to be spoonfed, sometimes i have to be re-spoonfed. I've forgoten more than you know comes to mind. A 250 gallon tank with a 175 psi of water fails safely. Hence hydro testing, you can stand next to it while testing.... When a 250 gallon tank with 175 psi of air fails, it explodes violently killing everyone around it. Tank will look like splayed out razorblades and shrapnel from the tank turning inside out, whipping around and slicing everyone to pieces. As a kid in a shop i witnessed a 240 gallon ingersoll rand that ran a 4 man crew of sanders and ran even hotter because it sadly had to fill 2 other tanks as well exit through a cinder block wall a chain link fence and into the parking lot. Another time we couldn't even find the compressor, found it later on the roof... Compressed air is like a big spring compared to water. The bigger the Tank the bigger the spring and the more work and energy it takes to compress it. The bigger the tank the more work, energy and heat it creates while doing its main work. It would be efficient and cooler to just use a constant run unloader on a small head/60 gallon. The head cools off while running unloaded and the 5 horse motor would be running cool on 8amps while unloaded and 21 amps when loaded. It wouldn't have to be fighting a large ass spring, its large ass tank atmosphere over and over again just to have a minute off : \ There was an automatic calculator on your pump size to tank size on how it lowers the output psi/cfm from the tank with all the same orifice output sizes as tank gets larger but i cant find it. There's a formula i need to find it. I also need to find my flow gauge and set up a video showing the pump manufacturer cfm/psi specs decrease drastically leaving the tank from a normal 3/8 hose to atmosphere while filling larger tanks and/or extra vessels of work at the same time doing it's normal 1-2 man airtool type work. I can't believe anyone couln't comprehend this, i must be the dumbest person on earth. Anyways, i at least hope my longgggg azzzz comments and dislikes you get from me help your channel
rotary screw compressor with dryer 100% duty cycle those heads you have are 50% duty its going to take forrrrever to fill that tank anmd youll wear out your pump head before then so id spend the 5 to10 grand and get a rotary screw it comes with a small tanks i think 100 gallon or less its full duty youll never run outta air it can keep up with demands.. yes there really expensive bnut quiet and worth it
I agree, Reggie. A rotary screw compressor would be awesome, but the price point is not realistic for what I'm doing. I have around $500 in this compressor, and it works fine for my needs. Regarding your point that I'll wear the pump head out: this compressor, used all day, has no more run time than your average 80-gallon tank. While it takes longer to fill up (about 27 minutes on average), which is roughly three times as long as an 80-gallon tank, it also takes that much longer to drain before the pump kicks back in. Do you have much experience with rotary screw compressors? I know very little about them other than that they're extremely efficient.
You'll need some way to drain the water that condenses in the bottom if you don't have a valve down there already.. Also, your air will smell bad unless you clean that tank out with a serious cleaner. You might be ok on the max air pressure front, although I couldn't say that for sure. Seems like many of the safety valves are set to 200 psi plus on propane. Maybe could turn the tank upside down if you don't have a valve on the bottom? Or just cut a hole and put a valve in.
Why don't they just build giant compressors tanks with tiny heads like this? Maybe because the tiny head not only has to run the air tools but also fill up a giant tank at the same time. Lol, you have more air but wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy less CFM lmao
This compressor has way more CFM than my old one. It runs my sand blaster and DA sanders no problem. The compressor performance isn't affected by the size of the tank. It hovers around 145PSI tank pressure while using a sand blaster at 100 PSI on my regulator, then recovers to 175PSI tank pressure. Works great so far.
@@Maintenance_Matt ..think about it.....really really think about......the compressor's performance (CFM) WILL diminish the larger the tank AND OR more tanks it has to fill......BECAUSE FILLING A TANK IS A JOB.......IF THIS WASN'T THE CASE, you could TIE unlimited amounts of tanks. lmfao everytime i see this sh;t, your cooking that pump
Impact on SCFM:Direct Impact: The SCFM rating is not directly decreased by the size of the tank. The compressor will still produce 15 SCFM at 90 PSI as long as it is running.Operational Impact: A larger tank can help manage airflow demands better by storing more air. During periods of high demand, the stored air in the tank can be used, which might temporarily give the impression of higher airflow. However, once the tank starts to empty, the compressor needs to work to refill it at its rated SCFM.Summary:SCFM Rating: Remains constant at 15 SCFM at 90 PSI as rated by the manufacturer, regardless of tank size.Tank Size: Provides storage capacity to smooth out demand peaks and reduce compressor cycling, but does not change the SCFM rating. In conclusion, the large tank does not decrease the SCFM rating of your compressor. The compressor's airflow capacity remains the same, but the tank helps manage air supply more efficiently over time.
Another thing Bill, to address your claim that I'm cooking the pump, if you have two compressors let's say ones and 80 gallon tank and you have my compressor that's a 250 gallon tank and both pumps put out the same CFM. Let's say over a 4-hour period both compressors are using 7 CFM, both pumps are going to have the same amount of runtime given that the pressure switch is cut on and off at the same pressures. Because the duty cycle is a relative measure that depends on the proportion of time spent refilling to the total cycle time, and both compressors have the same duty cycle, they will run for the same total amount of time over any given period, including the 4-hour period in question. I hope you really really think about it...
Maintenance Matt, I agree with @billdavid6315. You’re cooking the pump. Also, you’re stupid, and you eat doodoo sandwiches, which is a disgusting thing to do. But you do it anyway. Because you’re dumb. I hope you really, really think about how stupid and disgusting it is to eat a doodoo sandwich next time you are eating one.
Man it works great! It takes about 27 min to fill up and once it's full, recovery time is nomal and it keeps up with blasting or sanding no problem. As far as the propane tank goes, I was worried about the smell but that went away after a couple of weeks. This tank was built in the 50s and is rated at 250 PSI so 175 seems to be no problem. Thanks for watching!
Matt i have a 1000 gallon propane tank. Will this pump maintain 90psi to my sandblaster while filling this tank the same as your 250 gallon? Because i feel like it would take alot more wind from my lungs blowing up 1000 balloons compared to 250 balloons while im also blowing something else xDDD
Moreover it should, based on what I've read, increase the life of the compressor pump. While the pump does run longer it's not cycling on and off as much, and we all know that cycling on and off is what kills a pump. Heat expanding and contracting is happening more with a smaller pump than with a larger pump, like stop and go driving.
Your water faucet example is null. When useing Dumans you have to be spoonfed, sometimes i have to be re-spoonfed. I've forgoten more than you know comes to mind. A 250 gallon tank with a 175 psi of water fails safely. Hence hydro testing, you can stand next to it while testing.... When a 250 gallon tank with 175 psi of air fails, it explodes violently killing everyone around it. Tank will look like splayed out razorblades and shrapnel from the tank turning inside out, whipping around and slicing everyone to pieces. As a kid in a shop i witnessed a 240 gallon ingersoll rand that ran a 4 man crew of sanders and ran even hotter because it sadly had to fill 2 other tanks as well exit through a cinder block wall a chain link fence and into the parking lot. Another time we couldn't even find the compressor, found it later on the roof... Compressed air is like a big spring compared to water. The bigger the Tank the bigger the spring and the more work and energy it takes to compress it. The bigger the tank the more work, energy and heat it creates while doing its main work. It would be efficient and cooler to just use a constant run unloader on a small head/60 gallon. The head cools off while running unloaded and the 5 horse motor would be running cool on 8amps while unloaded and 21 amps when loaded. It wouldn't have to be fighting a large ass spring, its large ass tank atmosphere over and over again just to have a minute off : \
There was an automatic calculator on your pump size to tank size on how it lowers the output psi/cfm from the tank with all the same orifice output sizes as tank gets larger but i cant find it. There's a formula i need to find it.
I also need to find my flow gauge and set up a video showing the pump manufacturer cfm/psi specs decrease drastically leaving the tank from a normal 3/8 hose to atmosphere while filling larger tanks and/or extra vessels of work at the same time doing it's normal 1-2 man airtool type work. I can't believe anyone couln't comprehend this, i must be the dumbest person on earth. Anyways, i at least hope my longgggg azzzz comments and dislikes you get from me help your channel
rotary screw compressor with dryer 100% duty cycle those heads you have are 50% duty its going to take forrrrever to fill that tank anmd youll wear out your pump head before then so id spend the 5 to10 grand and get a rotary screw it comes with a small tanks i think 100 gallon or less its full duty youll never run outta air it can keep up with demands.. yes there really expensive bnut quiet and worth it
I agree, Reggie. A rotary screw compressor would be awesome, but the price point is not realistic for what I'm doing. I have around $500 in this compressor, and it works fine for my needs. Regarding your point that I'll wear the pump head out: this compressor, used all day, has no more run time than your average 80-gallon tank. While it takes longer to fill up (about 27 minutes on average), which is roughly three times as long as an 80-gallon tank, it also takes that much longer to drain before the pump kicks back in. Do you have much experience with rotary screw compressors? I know very little about them other than that they're extremely efficient.
You'll need some way to drain the water that condenses in the bottom if you don't have a valve down there already.. Also, your air will smell bad unless you clean that tank out with a serious cleaner. You might be ok on the max air pressure front, although I couldn't say that for sure. Seems like many of the safety valves are set to 200 psi plus on propane. Maybe could turn the tank upside down if you don't have a valve on the bottom? Or just cut a hole and put a valve in.
Why don't they just build giant compressors tanks with tiny heads like this? Maybe because the tiny head not only has to run the air tools but also fill up a giant tank at the same time. Lol, you have more air but wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy less CFM lmao
This compressor has way more CFM than my old one. It runs my sand blaster and DA sanders no problem. The compressor performance isn't affected by the size of the tank. It hovers around 145PSI tank pressure while using a sand blaster at 100 PSI on my regulator, then recovers to 175PSI tank pressure. Works great so far.
@@Maintenance_Matt ..think about it.....really really think about......the compressor's performance (CFM) WILL diminish the larger the tank AND OR more tanks it has to fill......BECAUSE FILLING A TANK IS A JOB.......IF THIS WASN'T THE CASE, you could TIE unlimited amounts of tanks. lmfao everytime i see this sh;t, your cooking that pump
Impact on SCFM:Direct Impact: The SCFM rating is not directly decreased by the size of the tank. The compressor will still produce 15 SCFM at 90 PSI as long as it is running.Operational Impact: A larger tank can help manage airflow demands better by storing more air. During periods of high demand, the stored air in the tank can be used, which might temporarily give the impression of higher airflow. However, once the tank starts to empty, the compressor needs to work to refill it at its rated SCFM.Summary:SCFM Rating: Remains constant at 15 SCFM at 90 PSI as rated by the manufacturer, regardless of tank size.Tank Size: Provides storage capacity to smooth out demand peaks and reduce compressor cycling, but does not change the SCFM rating. In conclusion, the large tank does not decrease the SCFM rating of your compressor. The compressor's airflow capacity remains the same, but the tank helps manage air supply more efficiently over time.
Another thing Bill, to address your claim that I'm cooking the pump, if you have two compressors let's say ones and 80 gallon tank and you have my compressor that's a 250 gallon tank and both pumps put out the same CFM. Let's say over a 4-hour period both compressors are using 7 CFM, both pumps are going to have the same amount of runtime given that the pressure switch is cut on and off at the same pressures. Because the duty cycle is a relative measure that depends on the proportion of time spent refilling to the total cycle time, and both compressors have the same duty cycle, they will run for the same total amount of time over any given period, including the 4-hour period in question. I hope you really really think about it...
Maintenance Matt, I agree with @billdavid6315. You’re cooking the pump. Also, you’re stupid, and you eat doodoo sandwiches, which is a disgusting thing to do. But you do it anyway. Because you’re dumb. I hope you really, really think about how stupid and disgusting it is to eat a doodoo sandwich next time you are eating one.
Damn!!! That is awesome!!! How is working?
It's a work horse! No problems at all. All the air I'll ever need!
How's it working out? Want to do this for wet blasting, but kinda scared of the propane tank thing.
Man it works great! It takes about 27 min to fill up and once it's full, recovery time is nomal and it keeps up with blasting or sanding no problem. As far as the propane tank goes, I was worried about the smell but that went away after a couple of weeks. This tank was built in the 50s and is rated at 250 PSI so 175 seems to be no problem. Thanks for watching!
@@Maintenance_Matt Did you wash it out before welding the platform on it? Someone told me the air stays flammable.
I did, twice. I filled it with water, emptied it and filled it again before I attempted to weld on it.
Matt i have a 1000 gallon propane tank. Will this pump maintain 90psi to my sandblaster while filling this tank the same as your 250 gallon? Because i feel like it would take alot more wind from my lungs blowing up 1000 balloons compared to 250 balloons while im also blowing something else xDDD
Absolutely, as long as your output that you're using, The CFM, is equal to or less than the pump rated CFM.
Moreover it should, based on what I've read, increase the life of the compressor pump. While the pump does run longer it's not cycling on and off as much, and we all know that cycling on and off is what kills a pump. Heat expanding and contracting is happening more with a smaller pump than with a larger pump, like stop and go driving.
Man. Cool as