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Gary Willis talks about Allan Holdsworth
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- Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2022
- Gary Willis talks about Allan Holdsworth
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"Half a record" is the Unmerry Go Round from Metal Fatigue. Huge fan of Gary, and Tribal Tech. Fantastic players and writers.
Me too.. love Gary's tunes ...
@@SamoSalamonMusic His tunes on the self titled album just kill me! Dense Dance, and Got Tuh B. I'm still blasting this stuff in the car thirty years later!
Gary is just about the chillest guy I've ever met. The only thing that outweighs his generosity and kindness is his musical genius.
The truth :)
That was probably the most in depth description by Gary I heard about his time with Allan. Thanks to Samo for bringing this out, and thanks to Gary for sharing his memories, and for the wonderful playing he brought to Allan's music. For the record, Gary plays on three separate Holdsworth releases: 1.) "The Un-Merry-Go-Round" from the Metal Fatigue album, which is half that record, as Gary states. It really is several tunes baked into one, and Allan called it a suite, which he dedicated to his father Sam, who used to be a professional pianist at some point, and who was his first music teacher. 2.) "None Too Soon", which is an album of jazz standards. Gordon Beck really has a big part in making that record happen, as he suggested several of the tunes, and even helped provide some of the arrangements. The entire album features Gary and Kirk, with that lovely bass feature on "Very Early". 3.) A lesser known track by the same lineup was released on the album "Guitar Tribute To The Beatles", an album produced by Mike Mainieri if I recall correctly. It's Gordon's arrangement of the Beatles tune "Michelle", and Allan plays ripping solo on that one. It could easily have been included on "None Too Soon". (Trivia: Gordon actually also recorded an arrangement of that tune way back in 1968 on his album "Experiment With Pops" which featured John McLaughlin on guitar.)
Txxxxx for sharing these thoughts... i have to check out the Beatles one ...
There is still a Beatles tune on None Too Soon, Norwegian Wood. I once interviewed Gary and we talked a lot about the NTS album, but somehow he never mentioned the musicians hadn't recorded together. That's quite a shocking news since the band seem to gel together like crazy, like in a live situation.
@@evanjazzista yeah, funny... love that album otherwise...
Thanks for sharing.
have to do a no bs movie with total honest about everything. he deserves it before the others die please
I'm happy to see more Allan Holdsworth related videos on RUclips this man was a genius and very underappreciated he should have been bigger famous huge star
It's always great to find out new things about Allan from the people who knew him.
Great interview! Gary is a legend himself!
Txxxx for watching... yeah, gary is one of the best! Nice guy also...
love your work!!
My band was setting up to play the Swallows Inn in San Juan Capistrano and Allen Holdsworth was at the bar with someone and my other guitarist made me go say hi. He was very kind and we talked about his Carvin endorsement and I had played his namesake guitar there but just bought a different model. I was glad I got to meet him. I'm glad I didn't try complementing his guitar playing but he did turn down an invitation to sit in with us.
Txxxx for sharing the story!!!
There's a marked difference between Allan's sublimely developed studio solos and the hit and miss results of his live improvising. He tended to overplay live and definitely knew it. However technically amazing his live playing was, it almost always lacked the careful focus and delicate lyricism that he could deploy in the controlled atmosphere of The Brewery.
Live was not an easy environment for him. Always uneasy and unnecessarily apologetic. He probably cared too much about other people's opinions. Even positive comments were too intense to him.
I had the good luck of visiting him at his place in 98. We listened in awe to Joe Pass' "Catch Me" and he seemed most comfortable dissecting other musicians. And boy... did he have an opinion about everybody! Very funny and charming after a few pints!
One of a kind playing always comes from one of a kind brains....
Thanks for the interview! It's always great to hear Gary speak!!
Wooow ... txxx for sharing, Francisco...
There isn't miss results in his live improvising, i mean that maybe he had bad nights, but everyone has one of them. He was a great visionary, a brilliant virtuoso, a great composer (some of his songs are beautiful), and a great improviser. I read in an interview that he didn't like too much the life on tour at some career point, maybe this could be one of the reasons of some difficulties (with financial problems and maybe other). In some live (there are many videos here) he play with such inspiration. I mean that your opinion can't be considered like a thing that happened always, there isn't difference in his solo development between live and studio
I don’t think Allan was often comfortable playing live e wasn’t a show off frontman and nerves had an affect on him I love some of his more emotional solos house of mirrors Joshua Allan qui etc and the precision of point of no return tullio etc difficult for him to achieve live
Thank you for putting this, Samo. It’s nice to hear about Gary speaking like that, you know, you found information about Allan found Kirk's drum style a little bit noisy, lol. Allan was so incredible.
Nice to hear from.you Ishmael... yeah, man, Allan one of the greats
Great interview 👍
Txxx David...
The first time I heard Allan I didn't pick up my guitar for 2 weeks afterwards. Scared the hell out of me. Still does. Rip.
Yeah - i know the feeling ;)
Wow thanks a 1000 times for this, Mr Salamon
Gary Willis is the Bruce Willis of music - An action star ! Imagine the STRESS of being the sub for THE Jimmy Johnson, the BEST friggen' bass player on the planet. That being said, Gary Willis's playing on METAL FATIGUE is legendary.
Beautiful!!! Yes...
🙏🏼
I saw Allan for the first time on that tour. With Gary Husband on drums and Paul (not John) Williams on vocals. The music was mostly compositions from I.O.U. and the Road Games EP.
Must have been amazing, David... txxx for sharing.
You put notes, math formulation, and also statistics, then it would be Allan's music. Amazing legend. Glad to ever witness his music and career. RIP Allan.
..........that was a great Allan Holdsworth story.......very accurate about Allan sensitivity about his playing......he hated complements on his playing.........you better not do it...he was his biggest critic........even though he's playing the greatest solo's of all times song after song....but as member of the band you had to pretend he didn't just play a solo from outer space ...he wanted you to concentrate on your own playing..........
Beautifully put, Sirius...
Gary confused vocalist Paul Williams with the composer John Williams 😄
Great interview by the way, thanks!
Indeed he did! 🙂
Actually, I think the composer John Williams was also doing some singing with Allan at the time as well.
Holdsworth was obscure in his lifetime and is even more so posthumously
Yeah... but amaaaaazingly unique
I dunno...since his passing there's a lot more dissection of his music on YT.
Gary the singer was Paul Williams not to be confused with the singer from the 70s. I saw that group perform back in the day.
had no idea None too Soon wasn't live, assumed they were all in a room tracking it live
Yeah - before this I also didnt know... quite interesting... sounds amazing still...
Thanks for sharing this interview. Is Gary completely retired or has he any plans for a new solo album?
Hi manuel... no no he is playing and writing new stuff... playing with gergo borlai... teaching... hopefully soon new stuff :)
@@SamoSalamonMusic thanks again.
@@Barleyman70 Awwright, great to hear that Gergo is getting into this mix!
@@ralphmunn1685 Gary and Gergo are living in Barcelona.
Dude is that a Somogyi guitar you got there? If so, damn. Anyway awesome unfortunately short interview but still awesome
Here is the entire interview with Gary - ruclips.net/video/wkquson-UVk/видео.html
The guitar is by a Slovenian guitarmaker Zaletelj...awesome...
Clearly Allan was VERY concerned about how he would come across to his critics (real & imagined) playing jazz standards. He wanted complete control of that shit and how he came across. You can believe that easily, if you knew how Allan was about this "jazz or rock" problem that plagued him til his dying day. I love his music...
Great interview! What is the title of your theme music here and who performed it?
Txxx Garry... my friend sax player Achille Succi...
Coolness! Is this music available for purchase anywhere?
@@garrytodd4712 hey garry...sure - available on these three releases:
samosalamon.bandcamp.com/album/punk-you
samosalamon.bandcamp.com/album/keis-secret
samosalamon.bandcamp.com/album/free-sessions-vol-1-planets-of-kei
I loved Alan’s music. He was one in a trillion. And I get Gary’s description about Alan RESPONDING to recorded tracks while recording his own soloing. And that does take once e-bike talent. However, IMO, that is LESS than what it could have been. The actual human interaction in REAL TIME, for me, is the very deepest aspect of true improvisation. And I mean NO disrespect to Alan. He was unbelievable. I worked with Wayne Shorter for over 25yrs and know that the deepest shit, happens in the moment. Just my opinion.
Would have loved to have had Alan record with Wayne. Both on to higher levels.
Maaan....yeah... true...how have you worked with Wayne? Amazing! How was that like?
As a bass player, Gary's unique talent is as aloof as Allan's solos.
Yesssss...
@@SamoSalamonMusic and I had the privilege of being one of his students back at BIT in the late 80s. My three finger right hand style has no relationship with his. He's a virtuoso pariah.
@@tribalflute3895 wooow - that must have been great... yeah - his technique is incredible...
He is so unique. I must confess I learned absolutely nothing from him concerning the right hand technique. But I do remember him throwing a few candy bars at me as a reward for getting intervals correct during ear training class. Great memories...
@@tribalflute3895 beautiful!!!!!
Paul Williams
You know
He’s one of my fave’s but overdubs on an actual jazz record…
thought The Unmerrygoround was the best track on Metal Fatigue.
have all of Garys albums Larger Than Life is the shit ✌😎👍
Always enjoy your work, Gary. But Mr. Williams first name was Paul Williams, the same as the Pop singer/songwriter…, but very different talented individuals of vastly differing styles. We ALL do make those name mistakes as our years pass. But Paul Williams of Tempest/Holdsworth band fame deserves a correction acknowledgment. RIP Paul.♥️🎶🎙️
True
I had a few pints with Allan back in the '90s. Same story.
Me: You played great man!
Allan: No I didn't - it was horrible. I couldn't hear meself...
He didn't get angry or anything but the tone of his voice and body language indicated to me that this wasn't just polite modesty - he was genuinely stressing about it.
I'm sure there wasn't much of a budget for "None Too Soon" but some benefactor should have stepped up and provided a better facility with a real piano and it would have been great if Allan could have calmed down enough to play live with the band - solos and all. It ended up being little better than Allan blowing over an Aebersold play-along. Not putting down any of the fine musicians that played on it but that record needed interaction with the rhythm section. I'm sure Allan's fans would be forgiving of a couple of clams.
hmmm, yeah, heard this so many times...yeah, I know what you mean about None Too Soon...
Cool but you don't have to edit in yourself for every _yeah_ and every nodding.
It's just extra work for you.
Since Allan didn't like compliments, it would've been interesting to see his reaction if one of his long-time sidemen had told him after a concert, "Oh, man, your playing wasn't that great tonight. You definitely need to work on it some more."
Oh man - yeah, would have been funny - good one!
Allan probably would have said "Hey, I'M the only person that can put my playing down, your job is to tell me how great I am".
I wanted to hear some more dirt about Allen & Williams feuding 😠😡
Interesting to hear that he had tension w/ Paul (not John) Williams. When I listened to the 1st Tempest album (which came out in 73) with Holdsworth and Williams on vocals, I hated his singing and viewed it as the foulest kind of pollution possible. I was surprised (and disappointed) that A.H. used him on his early solo albums several years later. I don't hate the Paul Williams vocals as much as I used to, but figured Holdsworth must have really liked what Williams had to offer since he went back to using him in a whole new band for at least a couple of albums years after Tempest disbanded.
Yeah... quite interesting... but yes agree...
Yeah, I get the Paul Williams vocal thing you’re talking about. I did notlike it very much in the beginning. But then, when I heard some of from the vault recordings with other singers, it sure made me appreciate Paul’s skills. his timing and dynamics were spot on. I have a whole new appreciation for what he did. Jack Bruce too.
Really necessary to waste 30 seconds with that BS intro?
...or -5 seconds typing your "look at me" post. Whiner. Learn to use skip
Just hit the right arrow a few times. It goes forward by 5 second increments!
Hey Samo. It's really annoying that you constantly interject the words "yeah", "sure", "right", every 5 to 10 seconds while your guests talk. Please be silent, just let the guest speak. Don't you notice this is disturbing to the guest, and also disturbing to your viewers? I'm sure you do this all the time, even during your conversations with your friends etc. You must address this problem if you continue to do interviews on camera. Please respond to my suggestion, okay?
Txxx for the suggestion... i got better later ;) this is one of the earlier interviews...
hey victor, may i please say that your message does not mark the high peak of respect either. in fact, it's almost a bit bossy. it sounds a bit like you're applying some kind of rick beato benchmark. but i think we owe samo the utmost respect for his achievement in doing so many interviews here in the pandemic especially with very independent, lesser known artists (gary is a star by comparison). i am a trained interviewer in the corporate sector, in neurosurgery etc. and i have interviewed everywhere. and i understand your point. but much more important is a point from the perspective of professionalisation theory. samo speaks as a peer with a lot of passion at eye level. in a world dominated by SOPs, marketing and technocracy, i find this very important and worth preserving. dear samo, please continue your great work! best, jj
@@jojena_imm txxx Jo... nice to hear this... yup, I do it for the love of the music 🤗🤗🤗 sometimes too enthusiatic 😂
Could you have less respect please...? I'm sure you can.
@@jojena_imm Wow, brilliantly spoken, friend. 🙂
I saw Alan only once, an experience I will never forget. I was about 6 feet away in a small club where Chad Wackerman was playing drums and the bassist who's name I cannot recall was absolutely stellar. I was thunderstruck by all three musicians. Alan was beyond brilliant.
When I went up to the bar to talk to him Alan was so neurotically self deprecating, I could not believe that someone who had just performed at the absolute pinnacle of world class virtuosity was wallowing is self hating inferiority. I told him to get a grip, that he was great and needed to seed himself as he truly was.
Beautiful story...
I believe it was a psychological coping mechanism for him. I mean, in his early days he was still getting it together and indeed did make clams and be a little sloppy here and there. But then later (1990s) his playing got so clean and amazing, and he was getting so many accolades that I think he reacted by having "impostor syndrome" and didn't really believe he was very good. And once he was stuck in that psychological place with regard to his own playing, he couldn't get out of it.
@@rhizomorph-music yeah possible - i mean he was killin' - the lines were incredible...