Why Submarine Battle Is Extremely Tricky
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Scoring a torpedo hit on an enemy ship requires timing, intuition, and luck. Faced with an oncoming enemy destroyer aiming to ram its hull, the USS Wahoo needs all three.
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"The worst thing than seeing a submarine in your sonar is not seeing one" Captain Chandler from last ship
Not if the submarine is an allied one
0:54 captain is being super-judged for missing
The captain does not fire it
The crew does it but the captain “orders” them to fire it.
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I must admit I have admiration for any nations submariners it takes a special kind of courage to do their job.
Where I am it's a high needs job, as in they want volunteers. I wouldn't and even if I could I am too tall for submarines. I'd imagine you certainly need guts for that kind of work
Yep. Lots of courage.
Personally, I think the worst military job is infantry.
Doogle Ticker Don't be an ass, he obviously wasn't saying other people are pussies for not being in a submarine. But you've got a lot better chance of survival if your surface ship is sunk vs. if your submarine is. Not to mention the potential for getting stuck or damaged without even receiving enemy fire. Read some of the horror stories of people who have survived sub disasters or were just forced to stay submerged for days at a time, I'll take a bullet over the torture of that.
Gen Erik - What crawled into your bed last night. He may have a point!
Doogle Ticker You continue to put words in his mouth that he never said, that they need a pat on the back for their self esteem. I'm sorry your sensitivities were insulted by me saying you were being an ass. Have mommy put a bandaid on where it hurts.
Let's be clear, this only applies to WWII submarine battles. Modern submarines engage targets VERY differently.
But this is a WWII submarine....
Ivan Matz this submarine was made in 1941
This is a uboat
Siddhartha Patra it is not a U-Boat because I’ve never seen a nazi speak English
Omar Ragab sure we have
The U-boats crews of WW2 had some astonishing accomplishments even with the difficulties of sub warfare!
U Boats are specifically German by the way
On Eternal Patrol. RIP the sailors of the USS Wahoo.
It is WAHOO
IT IS WAHOO
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Wahoo_(SS-238)
No, sorry
ARandomRUclipsr cus its not funny u bitch
Can anyone say what happened to those Torpedoes which misses the target?
I feel like modern torpedos have plenty of tracking technology to just be fired as a Hail Mary
not only the modern torpedos. 30-50 years back they weren't "stupid straight forward" also.
haha, this is a cute way of describing them, small but deadly.
Torpedo seeks the sound like SAM missile. But there are many counter devices which can distract torpedo.
the ww2 ones had tracking tech. but, it was so faulty it could turn around, lock on and destroy the same submarine that fired it.
Wahoo
How to sink a ship?
Shout: the boat is sinking Grab a lifeboat
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I’m sorry I just don’t know the joke
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The smithsonian channel puts out smithsonian quality videos. So much history packed into a well produced and highly entertaining show.
This attack scene is also shown in 'Run Silent, Run Deep' with Clark Gable and Kirk Douglas. One correction, when the Captain ordered 'Fire 3', that meant fire the torpedo in tube #3.
Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster, badbobby. Great movie.
No need for correction....
*s/ Retired 24 Year US Navy Submariner - USNA Class of 1965 - Former Enlisted Man*
00:00:38 'Vasily. Re-verify our range to target... one ping only.' - Captain Raimius
The patience of a submarine captain must have been tremendous.
0:55 lol his face! 😂
The creation of depth charges and decreasing size of modern 'battleships' is also another factor.
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found my professor in this video lol
Fuck your professor
That’s not nice lmao
Shut up Big Fish!!
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The nerves of steel that this captain and crew had were legendary. The "Down The Throat" shot became this captain's standard method of attack. Highly risky, but Highly successful.
Modern boats use sound and wire guidance for their torpedoes. Those were not available in WW2 and the MK 14 were not reliable at first. Any change in the angle on the bow or speed of target makes a difference between a hit or miss. These folks in the old boats were brave and had to know what they were doing. DBF . . . . . Diesel Boats Forever. USS Clamagore SS 343
Bravo Zulu
WWII US Navy submarines used a sophisticated device called the torpedo tracking computer to set the trajectory of torpedo's to their target.
Torpedo DATA Computer (TDC)
It doesnt track the ship, you input the data of the target and it creates a firing solution for you.
They should have put all their men on deck, after having armed them with gas-pipes and any other sort of junk, RAISE A BLACK, PIRATE FLAG and announce through a megafone, they'll board the destroyer. That would certainly scare the enemy off.
Naw, destroyers have deck guns, machine guns, and small arms (no not to paddle). British subs enter home port with that illegal pirate flag flying after a kill(s). They are rad, non-conformist, nut-jobs...that's what is needed to be a submariner. Woof.
2serveand2protect It might have worked better than their torpedo firing skills..1 for 6?
t t, do u know how hard that is, guessing a ships speed from 3 5 sec looks and doing the calculations in a minute under pressure.
you mean other than being thousands of feet underwater, being inside a crowded place or the inevitable death of blowing up or sinking? ..... yeah, i can't think why.
That's why the US submarine service was voluntary.
right. just saying.
well, i read a book about U-boats (story, not informative) and a WW2 submarine can go 40 meter under water. i believe thats 130 feet so thousands of feet is a bit too much but i would definitly get claustrofobia in there
The world war 2 subs were not true subs but more accurately called submersibles, though their crush depth, about 700-800 feet down, wasn't that much worse than they are now.
and what is the difference between a submarine and a submersible? (im not a native speaker) they can both dive and fire torpedos, dont they?
Imagine just chilling in a boat then three torpedoes hit the boat
I remember as a Canadian Royal Army Cadet, I once went on a trip where I got to tour inside of 2 commissioned submarines while they were docked and they showed us the giant torpedoes and said that each one costed like $1200 or more depending on what kind of torpedo it was
...torpedoes have ALWAYS been expensive and complicated weapons-!!!
Those prices would've been 1960s era .
They cost more than that...
While torpedoes are expensive, the things the Torpedo is destroying is more expensive than the torpedo itself
If you guys haven't read the badass of the week article about Dudley "Mush" Morton, you should.
the destroyer be like
TORI KAJI IPPAI!!!!
just one thing forgotten is that the destroyer may throw depth chargers at the sub and the sub being that close under the ship is in serious trouble if they decided to throw depth charges
RIP to the crew of the USS Wahoo
hope the complete episode gets uploaded on this channel, this looks interesting!
agreed
There's a link in the description with a bit more info on the show, and when they are showing it on the Smithsonian (TV) channel, which I think is not a thing here in the UK. The show name is Hell Below - Episode 3: America Fights Back
When destroyers take a torpedo hit It can attack him because he is going to slow to drop deapth charges
Just watch it on kodi.
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Early in the War, the American torpedoes were unreliable and failures to detonate were common. Later torpedoes were corrected and reliable.
Finally a video from the smithsonian channel with an accurate, unexaggerated title
In Silent Hunter 2 you lock the target and fire. Amusing game. But being there probably was a tough job.
Captain:shoot A6
Sailor: the enemy sent a message it says “missed”
Captain: write down thise coordinates
Enemy:*shoots submarine once*
*submarine goes into panic’*
Captain *calmly*: tell the enemy...hit
What
>Sub starts attacking a ship minding it's own business. >Misses and fires again. >Misses and firs again.
>Miss and now ship is getting mad. >Sees where the tornados are coming from so decides to ram it in self defense.
>Sub fires again and hits ship.
>Happy music. (Honestly they need to get rid of that or they'll have a meme to deal with. . . . Could you imagine 9/11?)
TheTarrMan - that SHIP was a Japanese destroyer AND it was not minding its own business , it was engaged in WWII , which Japan initiated: 12/7/41 ! Wahoo JUST delivered a proper response to aggressive enemies of the US, "we will put a boot up your A$$, its the American way" - Toby Keith !
Damn those tonados
greentexting on youtube, doesn’t get more normie
Haha you said tornados
lol yep, that japanese war vessel known as a destroyer...just minding it's own business
"we got a hit....." Acting 10/10
The only option left is an extremely risky shot
Sailors call it
*Down The Throat*
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My Dad: That's what your mother said.
I'm but your father has some issues if he's sharing this with you.
Sailors say that ey❓
I'd rather be on a War ship than a Sub, I don't care if the Ship got Torpedoed at least you got a chance of surviving, in a Submarine you got no where to go, and you might as well say it's your coffin Ha!!! :P] .v ..
I wish we had more people like Mr oldmanswar, ua answers r very informative. Thank u sir.
For trying to show how it is accurately done, they sure do say "fire" a lot. The proper term is "shoot", due to "fire" being a casualty term.
This is incorrect. The term is, in fact, "fire". It is only used in two situations, a casualty and during a weapons launch.
On my boat (SSN-709), fire was reserved for casualties. Shoot was term used to launch upon the enemy.
I can't quote the actual manual on here, but as an instructor in this subject, the term is "fire".
Ok, but if you served under my former commanders, you would use "shoot" lol.
when I was in, 50 years ago, the doctrine was "fire" was an actual command to launch the torpedo. (or fire the gun) All preparatory language was "prepare to shoot" etc, so as not to cause a mistake, even though all commands had to be repeated, in a tense situation shit happens. "Fire" was also a casualty. Ditto for surface ships in the US at the time. Respectfully submitted.
Some of the new 774 boats should be named for some of these guys. O'Kane and Fluckey for sure.
Young aggressive Skippers had big Balls! The USA Submarine Service was a major asset to success in WW2 . And we did lose 52 Submarines and most of their crews! May they Rest in Peace!
Doesn't the ship diving right below the destroyer open it up to depth charge attack?
Lol, this is like playing silent hunter 5 again, one shot "miss" 10,000 shots "miss"
1:09 until they decide to activate sonar and sound the Wolf's call lol
Pretty bold to go under the ship even though you know it's going to sink
Yeah should have opted to fly over it instead.
Wait.. Where does the missed torpedos go?, do they swim forever?
No, of course not, they will swim until they run out of fuel
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After its run, a torpedo will sink if it hasn't hit anything. Submarines have heard their torpedoes exploding after missing their targets when they impacted the sea bed.
sweet! what game is this?
Warthunder
Silent Hunter 4
Battle ship 4
World of "blow all tanks"...
life
The torp hit the bow, and the sub dives beneath it, so why not depth charge the sub?
A clear example of sometimes it's better to be lucky than good..
Modern torpedoes are wire guided like a tow missile.
Hedy Lamar, the Jewish actress, actually designed a torpedo guidance system to counter the Germans during the U-boat crisis in the Atlantic. When the Germans learned how to jam the system she also designed a system to scramble the remote signal. There's a good documentary about it somewhere....
Mind you, this was WWII technology and tactics. Modern torpedo targeting and guidance are far more accurate, but so is anti-submarine warfare. In modern submarine tactics a single shot, while in theory can be done within a few minutes, may more likely take hours to prepare (patience is not just a virtue when you don't want to be seen, it is a life-or-death necessity, and you have to maneuver slowly to guarantee both the hit and your survival) and an engagement may even take days in outmaneuvering your opponent.
Modern torpedoes are not straight running anymore. They usually are wake homing and will change course to hit the ship.
That's a lot of damage
I'm going to fire all my Torpedoes and make sure that I do it right every time I make a mistake if I have enough
You do not make a guess, my daughter's daycare had a family night with a high jar of jelly beans. I came closest to the correct number both years she was there by estimating not guessing. Hugh difference!
The move down the thought is literally like a scene from Godzilla opening a monsters mouth and fires it’s bean into its throat but this time it’s ranged
Two famous ww2 sub skippers Mush Morton and Richard O'kane.
both have great episodes on the SILENT SERVICE TV shows from old tv, now available on You Tube
When they say "Fire 2" or "Fire 3" does that mean they fired 2 or 3 torpedoes...? Or they are firing tube 2 or 3..? Have they made a mistake in narration...?
Recommend me this 4 years later thanks I guess
It would be cool if they could create the opposite of a sub launched missile. A torpedo that fires from the bottom, sinks to a low depth then arcs back up under the belly of the targeted ship and blows it up that way.
ASUBROCs or Anti-Submarine Rockets can do that
You know what they would say when then sink a ship?
Wahooooo!!!
Lol the destroyer didn’t react firing back, instead it only moved towards submarine.
Submarine battle needs sharp intuition.
Cheers from Indonesia
Imagine a sub commander with degree in mathematics that could do the figuring in his head
The wahoo was sunk by a runaway torpedo from U507 aimed at the Battleship Goney Bird.
wouldn't by the time the torpedo hit, the ship could have been in range to close down on the sub and fire the depth-charges?
Guys they buffed the torpedos and periscopes in the 17.6 update
*"As long as you are submerged and not bothering anybody you are invisible and you are safe"*
...not anymore old man. No more. 😏
Great book in this submarine
There's a lot that has to be taken into account and a lot of precise calculations. You only have so many torpedoes.
Hope you miss each other and stay happy and peaceful
As long as we're destroying each other we're happy campers.
What happens when they run out of torpedoes? Do they go home and pick up more?
Whats a point if miss 6 tarpindo
USS WAHOO (SS-238) DIVISION USNSCC
NOSC AVOCA, AVOCA, PA
Captain Mush revolutuonized sub warfare only if the wahoo wasnt sunk, woulda been the deadliest sub out there.
So, uh... what happens to those missed torpedoes?? Do they just lose speed and sink to the ocean floor, undetonated? Are they in danger of being detonated spontaneously?
Potentially all the above.
من ينتصر في الحرب هو من يكتب التاريخ ويحكي قصص خياليه علي انها حقيقه ...
Hitscan heroes just can't relate. Where my Lucios at?
These guys should have said, "fuck this. Let's sail to Bermuda, become pirates and quit this shitty war. "
So, why don't they just move out of the way, reposition, and fire the last two torpedoes? Why would it take so long for them to submerge? None of this makes sense.
not that simple buddy. ever tried controlling a submarine?
He probably just plays battlefield to get his military information.
Yato/ /Yukine GENERATION 1984
Are you going to enlighten me with an answer or just be a smart ass?
And there's almost no Battlefield games where you can pilot a sub dumbass?
It takes more then milliseconds to inflate and deflate the buoyancy stabilizers. Rookie.
GENERATION 1984
That still doesn't make sense. They can fire off the torpedoes and submerge just fine after, but instead they stick around? Are they waiting for hit confirmation with the periscope?
Do the torpedos that miss just keep going???lol
Joseph Zigmand at some point they either blow up or just sink
Similar tactics in the old movie;'Run Silent, Run Deep'.
After looking at the situation and I'm only assuming this I would get as close as I can before I fire my first torpedo oh, if he sees my torpedo and he counteracts by manoeuvre idunn away my position oh, I'm not going to throw out fire I'm not going to fire three Torpedoes in such rapid succession unless I'm close to the Target this is a target I cannot afford to miss
The enthusiasm of the actors was ................
0:55 😂😂
But where did all the other 5 torpedoes go??
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I bet they all yelled "WAHOO" after the torpedo hit.
them: literally calculating just for 1 shot
me. shoots ship with no miss but no calculation
Why didn't the IJN ship fire shots?
There’s an excellent WWII submarine book that focuses on Wahoo and Morton, Unrestricted Warfare. The account isn’t exactly as portrayed here and the actual eyewitness accounts are much more interesting. They couldn’t dive deep because they were in a harbor.
After you hit the ship you're going to go under it and you going to hear the ship break up as you pass below it
Plunges deep. The brighter deep.
Though this is WWII stuff still, very interesting. First shots were taken from too far away from the destroyer. In the beginning of WWII, the battle in the Pacific was largely left to our submarine fleet. So many of those brave officers and men are still there on "eternal patrol." RIP.
and this sub, pictured, the WAHOO, is one of those 52 US subs on eternal patrol, with all hands lost.
Im also working Submarines
How many torpedo inside submarine?
Dude wastes All the torpedoes he ends up being blind from one eye
Just ask myself how this pelriscope can work if there is curved earth?
My father was a submariner in WWII. You ask a very good question. Periscope veiwing distance was much more limited for the very very reason you mention. Also, look up the "End Around" approach that submarines used during WWII to track targets in order to get into attack position. It can only work if the earth is round...
RUclips: This is tough
Indian Submariners: 😂No it's not.
I would have got close before I fired my first torpedo and unless I calculated its range distance, I'm not going to fire in such rapid succession, maybe he had to be there but that's just my thinking