Not disagreeing, but if we were there watching it live this would still be the situation. Dividing our attention. Thank goodness they do some instant replays of some stuff we may have missed. Maybe they will find a better system for showing these events. but if they were to have each one climb separately the time length would extend by quite a lot.
For everyone who is confused: the semifinals could not take place because of rain. So they took the final boulders and everyone who was qualified for the semis climbed them. So this was a improvised final. Normally there are 6 athletes in the final and only one climbs at a time. In the semis this would take too long because there are too many athletes, so there is one athlete climbing at every boulder at the same time. So here we have a final in the format of a semifinal. (This happened a few times in ifsc world cup history and is a common practice in case of very bad weather)
I understand that having/showing one contestant at a time would take such a long time, but right now you see everything and nothing at the same time. You don't get to see the volumes up close or the different technique used to solve each problem.. It should be quality over quantity.
Probably one of the worst formats for a final, wtf is wrong with the camera men? 25:14 yeah lets switch to a wide angle to show literally nothing ¿? also at 24:35 instead of showing the jump they sitch again?
The direction was god-awful. Just god-fucking-awful. Didn't show Tomoa's first boulder at all (only a replay), missed most of the second one (even though he almost topped it TWICE!) and this time EVEN NO REPLAY! At that point it was the last remaining untopped boulder with one of the strongest climbers attempting it... and they kept focusing on boulders 3 and 4, god knows why... Shameful, really shameful.
Yeah it's horrible to try to follow. Plus they were doing semis and finals at the same time, so it's hard to criticize em too... Still I think finals should be finals with one single climber getting the attention he/she has more than deserved.
This is the normal format for semi-finals - it's not great for watching, but you somehow have to get 80 boulders (20x4) done, and if you would do it sequentially, this would take like five hours.
Comment for less edit (I enjoy the full comp, even with the cringe inducing commentary by Matt, but co-commentary is always interesting!) And I recommend/love for you to stream the semifinals Thanks for everything! I think we all massively appreciate what you do! 🤟
they can but its normally not a good idea since its a scoring opportunity. if you skip the zone and fall off the top its a wasted attempt, + theyre usually necessary for just doing the climb but they get skipped every once in a while
I got a question regarding boulder M3: Do the climbers have to use the zone with their hands, or is it enough if they use it only with their feet to get it? Because the commentators appearently dont know this and get confused all the time if the climbers got the zone or not
@@blessedzane 45:43 This was the situation where he just touched the hold but didn't use it. If he had just moved his leg or showed any movement while touching it, it would be awarded
You can find it on YT! They all are great climbers who tasted all the moves beforehand! But doing it 5 minutes without knowing the beta, tired and nervous is what is challenging and separating the best from the better on the comp day
I’ve never seen such a horrible broadcast. 3 boulders going at once!!!! You cant even see the one your focusing. Complete turn off by the organization.
Issues with rain... If only, there was a way to host these competitions, shielded from natural forces...
Such a turn off to have to focus on 3 climbs at the same time.
Especially when having such high end competition.
You don't wanna lose a breath
Not disagreeing, but if we were there watching it live this would still be the situation. Dividing our attention.
Thank goodness they do some instant replays of some stuff we may have missed. Maybe they will find a better system for showing these events. but if they were to have each one climb separately the time length would extend by quite a lot.
@@fuzzycounsellor9147normally it’s only 6 people in the finals so you get to see them climb individually.
For everyone who is confused: the semifinals could not take place because of rain. So they took the final boulders and everyone who was qualified for the semis climbed them. So this was a improvised final. Normally there are 6 athletes in the final and only one climbs at a time. In the semis this would take too long because there are too many athletes, so there is one athlete climbing at every boulder at the same time. So here we have a final in the format of a semifinal. (This happened a few times in ifsc world cup history and is a common practice in case of very bad weather)
Thank you I was indeed confused
thanks
If only humanity finds a way to shelter themselves from the weather. ..hopefully one day!
Stasa is a wonderful commentator and I really like her voice!
I understand that having/showing one contestant at a time would take such a long time, but right now you see everything and nothing at the same time. You don't get to see the volumes up close or the different technique used to solve each problem.. It should be quality over quantity.
Lovely to see so many climbers with different nationalities, climbing culture is blooming !
thank you for uploading this. It is appreciated
Split screens would have been so much nicer for the home watching folks. Thanks for uploading anyway.❤
What a nightmare for the viewer this was. One. At. A. Time. Please
Fundamental infrastructure on coverage and technical logistics to honor these world class athletes at this point of time…
Probably one of the worst formats for a final, wtf is wrong with the camera men? 25:14 yeah lets switch to a wide angle to show literally nothing ¿? also at 24:35 instead of showing the jump they sitch again?
You know it isn't the cameraman's fault, right? They have fixed angles and the shots are controlled by a director at a camera switch.
The direction was god-awful. Just god-fucking-awful. Didn't show Tomoa's first boulder at all (only a replay), missed most of the second one (even though he almost topped it TWICE!) and this time EVEN NO REPLAY! At that point it was the last remaining untopped boulder with one of the strongest climbers attempting it... and they kept focusing on boulders 3 and 4, god knows why... Shameful, really shameful.
god that fucking 3 at a time bouldering camera is so awful. Is the general attention span really that low or are they trying to save time?
Trying to save time. Camera angles have always been shit in ifcc😭
Yeah it's horrible to try to follow. Plus they were doing semis and finals at the same time, so it's hard to criticize em too... Still I think finals should be finals with one single climber getting the attention he/she has more than deserved.
@@mrsii5843 loooool
@@morphyox6453 You make it sound like they had a choice
This is the normal format for semi-finals - it's not great for watching, but you somehow have to get 80 boulders (20x4) done, and if you would do it sequentially, this would take like five hours.
Comment for less edit (I enjoy the full comp, even with the cringe inducing commentary by Matt, but co-commentary is always interesting!) And I recommend/love for you to stream the semifinals Thanks for everything! I think we all massively appreciate what you do! 🤟
wait, is this a reupload or are the boulders the same?
It's awful. Stop doing hundreds of people climb in the same time
4 at the same time is so hard to follow, maybe limit at 2?
Can they skip the zone? I'm new in watching this sport, but I'm already loving it
they can but its normally not a good idea since its a scoring opportunity. if you skip the zone and fall off the top its a wasted attempt, + theyre usually necessary for just doing the climb but they get skipped every once in a while
I got a question regarding boulder M3: Do the climbers have to use the zone with their hands, or is it enough if they use it only with their feet to get it? Because the commentators appearently dont know this and get confused all the time if the climbers got the zone or not
From watching Uznik not get the zone at like 48:00 it seems you have to use your hands
Only with the hends! They knew it, but the discussion was if there was "positive movement while using the zone hold"! Hopefully this helps
@@blessedzane 45:43 This was the situation where he just touched the hold but didn't use it. If he had just moved his leg or showed any movement while touching it, it would be awarded
In competitions like this where there are more than one boulder going at the same time do they have different judges for each boulder?
Yep, during qualifications too, two judges one official
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Not happy with the format, way to Go Keqiao.
Tomoa rocking though, congratz!
this is semi's no??
It’s a final, they’re just doing multiple boulders at a time for some reason. Horrible format
Upload the shangais competition
We gotta get vids of the setters climbing 😭
You can find it on YT! They all are great climbers who tasted all the moves beforehand! But doing it 5 minutes without knowing the beta, tired and nervous is what is challenging and separating the best from the better on the comp day
48:16 why does nicolai misses the zone here? So brutal. He “uses” the zone when he tries to go to the top right??
46:20 here he just touched it, but doesn't make any positive movement to show he used the hold. Feet don't count...sadly
The routesetter who set M2 must've felt evil 😈😈after that final
Usually, semifinal boulders are way harder because they need to separate only 6 to go through! They basically climb 9 boulders to get into the finals!
Wide angle is poor, but a bit more 🇵🇸 solidarity would be cool too
Not the finals?
Apperently it is, but it is what used to be the semis, they just left them out this year to save time
Why do they have four and a half mins time?
Roof made out of Chinesium? ‚Issues with rain…‘ bruhhhh
This is not finals...
tomoa overgripping after near-success on problem 2
3 climbs at once is insanely dumb, who are we supposed to watch????
Four*
Why israil????????????????????????????
Had to stop watching after 9 mins, 3 climbers at the same time! No thx, thought it was annoying when they had 2 climbers at the same time.
First
This is not final, it’s semifinal
No. It’s the final. Like it says in the title. Like that commentators say. Like the scoreboard says.
Terrible camerawork
I’ve never seen such a horrible broadcast. 3 boulders going at once!!!! You cant even see the one your focusing. Complete turn off by the organization.
This climbing format where everyone climbs at the same time…. Trash