The Change in Football Around Head Trauma

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  • @deadbeats4894
    @deadbeats4894 2 года назад +558

    As a kid, our coaches pretty much told us to all but murder the man with the ball, especially the quarterback. Targeting was the game. I was praised for breaking a kid's ribs. I used to and still do think our line coach was a psychopath.

    • @aceeduventures
      @aceeduventures 2 года назад

      Esta sesion de trap igual esta piola
      ruclips.net/video/bT_E_NWeUaQ/видео.html

    • @coltonconnor112
      @coltonconnor112 2 года назад +45

      Had the same experience. Our coaches told us if we put another player in an ambulance in a game they would take us out for a garbage plate.( a rochester ny thing) myself and 2 other players were taken out for garbage plates. Didn't really think about it til years later but good luck doing that shit today.

    • @chucky29949
      @chucky29949 2 года назад +5

      Jesus💀

    • @finksburg7380
      @finksburg7380 2 года назад +15

      Same exact experience growing up. I loved Football for it. HIT OR BE HIT BABY! I've also been knocked out myself. Never been told I have a concussion though- probably did, no clue.

    • @graciegjj
      @graciegjj 2 года назад

      Now I'm trying to get you to go break the ribs of the Taliban and if you can't get into that I'm hoping to get you to get aggressive against those who vote differently than you....

  • @timbates2052
    @timbates2052 2 года назад +239

    "If you are carrying the ball, no matter what happens to the other guy, you WILL NOT be arrested." True quote from a great coach. It was a license to kill.

    • @chicoo8957
      @chicoo8957 2 года назад +9

      “Football is the only sport where u can legally hit someone and not get in trouble so hit some one!”

    • @senkoswim1421
      @senkoswim1421 2 года назад +5

      “War and football, only two places where you can legally kill”. Also the “Ain’t cheating ya ain’t trying”. Words we lived by for about 12 years.

  • @JordanMHaller
    @JordanMHaller 2 года назад +38

    I’ve had 11 concussions in all, I had 4 in one season my junior year. I can tell a difference in my judgement, short term memory, and headaches since high school

    • @chloeknight1245
      @chloeknight1245 2 года назад +1

      Yikes man hopefully when you get older nothing bad happens to you…😅

    • @brownjatt21
      @brownjatt21 2 года назад +2

      @@chloeknight1245 hopefully with all these ground breaking medical breakthroughs. CTE will be better treatable in the next 10 yrs. As somebody who's boxed for 15 yrs i sure as hell hope so. That's my only hope lol.

  • @JpkSB3216
    @JpkSB3216 2 года назад +73

    I had a lot of concussions growing up playing ball. Once in high school I got hit so hard I didn’t know where I was. Played d3 ball for a year and then quit bc I got like 6th or 7th concussion and was done risking it, especially bc d3 wasn’t giving me scholarships or anything.

    • @GovernorRiffRaff
      @GovernorRiffRaff 2 года назад

      One more concussion Reggie Ray and the doctor says you’ll die.

    • @kennethjacobs3716
      @kennethjacobs3716 2 года назад +1

      I had the same revelation. Multiple concussions (didn't know that at the time). Blinn JC wanted me to go there but I felt liked I worked too hard to risk everything for a JC. Took my talents and ran track. I resented it in my 20s, but now at 35 I am so happy with the decision I made.

  • @jopo7996
    @jopo7996 2 года назад +84

    Head trauma is terrible. I've heard of retired athletes with severe CTE that think they are professional comedians.
    That's like putting salsa on a cookie.

    • @gps9715
      @gps9715 2 года назад +8

      lmao

    • @brennancarter7721
      @brennancarter7721 2 года назад +12

      B Schaub.

    • @scotth1807
      @scotth1807 2 года назад +4

      I'm dyyying!!!!

    • @robertgituhu9975
      @robertgituhu9975 2 года назад +2

      😂😂😂😂

    • @lkmjin
      @lkmjin 2 года назад +1

      @@brennancarter7721 "So how did you become comedian?"
      "Idk but they told me i was getting hit to the head too often. Are you gonna finish the salsa?"

  • @jonathanullrich8940
    @jonathanullrich8940 2 года назад +9

    I played on special teams with that dude in HS. So cool he’s on this show. Bless him and his family.

  • @theboard3476
    @theboard3476 2 года назад +49

    I remember drills like the bull ring. Whole team would jog in a circle, one player in the middle who had to hold his ground. Coach would call random players names in the circle who would rush the player in the middle. Some guys were getting hit so hard they would get knocked out.
    Seen guys have to lay still on the ground while medics buzz saw their helmets off.
    We’re used to see grab each other’s face masks at practice and just smack helmets until one of us quit. There were guys who would go through the whole team.
    Some of the best memories of life. At least the ones I can remember

    • @GovernorRiffRaff
      @GovernorRiffRaff 2 года назад +3

      yea okay and I bet Shao Khan was your coach and Goro was your nose tackle?

    • @krylesangerbeaver
      @krylesangerbeaver 2 года назад +2

      Great end to story 😆

    • @Tttttt85253
      @Tttttt85253 2 года назад +2

      The worst part is when the coach has a son on the team and always puts them with the smaller kids during hitting drills

    • @JayRealTalk
      @JayRealTalk 2 года назад +4

      Bull ring was a crazy ass drill, I remember that lmao🤣

    • @theboard3476
      @theboard3476 2 года назад +2

      @@GovernorRiffRaff Nope. Just former NFL players, D1 players, and some of literally the best coaches in the nation at the time. When I was there, we were on our 4th 4 peat. And we were ranked in the top 25 in country. They would fly coaches out from top 10 schools for summer camps. Those guys were old school southerners and they did not fuck around lol

  • @deadizbetter
    @deadizbetter 2 года назад +113

    When I was younger my coach would make us ram helmets at full speed and now I have seizures

    • @mitchell2169
      @mitchell2169 2 года назад

      I bet you are damn TOUGH during those seizures though

    • @nastradamus215
      @nastradamus215 2 года назад +44

      @Heroinsniffer4life why you bashing him like he knew better?

    • @EternalChamp
      @EternalChamp 2 года назад

      Congratulations 🙂
      Coach didn’t know back then either, dont try to play a victim 🖕🏻

    • @deadizbetter
      @deadizbetter 2 года назад +23

      @Heroinsniffer4life I was 6

    • @allesandrodecastro6572
      @allesandrodecastro6572 2 года назад +1

      @@deadizbetter lol

  • @anthonypfenninger4027
    @anthonypfenninger4027 2 года назад +130

    Concussions were just starting to be somewhat serious when I graduated HS in 06'. When I enlisted into the military, the military started really looking into concussions. I ended up having 2 massive concussions where I had post concussion syndrome for like 4 years. It unfortunately got me medically discharged in the Army. I ended up taking lemons and sticking them in water with the skin, letting them ferment a little and drink water with the same lemon slice all day long. It ended up fixing my headaches and balance issues.

    • @DoobieFlex
      @DoobieFlex 2 года назад +36

      Start a company people have bought more bogus shit than that. Fuck it. If it works it works

    • @FumioTx
      @FumioTx 2 года назад +10

      I’ve never heard of Post concussion syndrome, and tbh I’m glad I read this cause I need to look that up man. Same situation with the fella in this video at the age of 12. Thank you.

    • @samuelthomson9765
      @samuelthomson9765 2 года назад +16

      Who else thought he was going for a creative "made lemonade" thing here?

    • @maxsterling8203
      @maxsterling8203 2 года назад +3

      Hot or cold brother ? I’ve heard hot can change things up but I don’t know how was just wandering because I’m going through this right now trying to get healthy with a tbi uh huh just is what it is god bless

    • @TheBushRanger.
      @TheBushRanger. 2 года назад

      @@maxsterling8203 Same here Max, had a gnarly concussion in November and covid as well. Vision therapy micro dose psilocybin and clean diet to heal this sucks

  • @dustinscheller7795
    @dustinscheller7795 2 года назад +16

    Concussions are nothing to mess with, usually you won't hit rock bottom until a few years after you've gotten them

  • @WildcatWarrior15
    @WildcatWarrior15 2 года назад +66

    The thing is, we knew about the major injuries. Concussions, knock outs, etc. But it was the "getting your bell rung" hits that no one knew were so damaging. We had no idea those mid-level hits that stunned you were doing major damage. Those are also the hits you literally can't avoid by the nature of the sport.

    • @brennancarter7721
      @brennancarter7721 2 года назад +4

      Truth.

    • @user-ik5ze1sh7i
      @user-ik5ze1sh7i 2 года назад +2

      They knew they just didn't want to stop there sport from growing, it doesn't take that much thinking to understand the dangers of football

    • @BudgiePanic
      @BudgiePanic 2 года назад +1

      Is this for boxing or football? Non-American asking

    • @mayanboricua
      @mayanboricua 2 года назад

      @@BudgiePanic
      Football.

    • @lennylennington
      @lennylennington 10 месяцев назад

      You gotta be pretty fucking dumb if you didn’t know that hitting your head is bad.

  • @YakoAtk
    @YakoAtk 2 года назад +3

    I just last week had 7 seizures in a day and passed out and woke up 3 days later I’m just getting back to 100%. Gives me a new love for my brain and how you gotta stay careful

  • @johammond2020
    @johammond2020 2 года назад +18

    There's just NOTHING like football .. even just High School football! I'm almost 40 and to this day I still have dreams of playing .. I will always miss it!

    • @N1mai
      @N1mai 2 года назад +6

      absolutely right and i don’t want to think about the fact that i will never play again

    • @Lo33y_
      @Lo33y_ 2 года назад +1

      Rugby? Pretty fun to play as well, and best part you don't have the stop start nature of football.

    • @N1mai
      @N1mai 2 года назад

      @@Lo33y_ rugby is cool but there’s nothing like football to me. i’m sure if i grew up playing rugby i would want it more.

  • @bpicc5250
    @bpicc5250 2 года назад +21

    ESPN put out a gut-wrenching documentary about Junior Seau, it’s so sad man. His entire personality changed. He knew that his brain was essentially broken. Most people that commit suicide shoot themselves in the temple - but Seau shot himself in the chest and specifically requested that neuroscientist study his brain so that they could potentially prevent the same thing happening to other players.
    I love the changes that the NFL, college football, etc are identifying ways to make the game safer without sacrificing the physicality of the game. I am hoping we can continue making progress so that I can still pass this beautiful sport down to my kids one day.

  • @BamaXander
    @BamaXander 2 года назад +4

    I watched a Bama game standing next to Eryk. I didn't speak to him, but it's still a cool story to tell. I appreciate what he gave to the University of Alabama, and I hope none of it carries on into his later life. A total class act. Roll Tide, Eryk.

    • @louieo.blevinsmusic4197
      @louieo.blevinsmusic4197 Год назад

      Roll Tide! This man helped sealed the ‘09 NC game for Bama. Didn’t know he was ever on Joe Rogan.

  • @henry30000
    @henry30000 2 года назад +14

    fun fact: the nfl made madden stop putting concussion injuries in the game

  • @SeleckPlays
    @SeleckPlays 2 года назад +9

    I've been a fan of the NFL for over 30 years and I love it more today than ever. I think the new rules have made the game better, because great players can be great longer.

    • @jeromegarcia5396
      @jeromegarcia5396 2 года назад +1

      Tho it's all about health, today's tampon league is not as good, minus good players lasting longer, I get what you mean, but I can't stand the thousands of flags, let's play the game already...
      I played mid 90s way before this crazy push to make it safe, I mean just go to flag football... Nobody is promised tomorrow and we should live each day like our last... We can put pillows everywhere, but we all still die, some people from just eating nuts... Go figure

    • @maxmax4511
      @maxmax4511 2 года назад

      What a SIMP

    • @tylerwarker4295
      @tylerwarker4295 2 года назад +2

      @@jeromegarcia5396 Was recently watching the 94 cowboys on youtube playing with Summerall and Madden calling the game. This was peak USA. The paddycake league today doesnt come close.

    • @jeromegarcia5396
      @jeromegarcia5396 2 года назад +1

      @@tylerwarker4295 yeah mid late 90s was the sweet spot for football for sure...

  • @austinoldfield5246
    @austinoldfield5246 2 года назад +4

    The man who taught me how to fight was junior Seau’s cousin. He owned a mma gym in Aztec New Mexico. The toughest family I have ever met. They are absolute warriors.

  • @erboch7124
    @erboch7124 2 года назад +9

    I remember when the heads up initiative started, it was like my second year playing youth football and it was still stigmatized by some of the coaches.

  • @mystuff1405
    @mystuff1405 2 года назад +6

    Exactly! I had so much brain trauma in high school football. I know it cost me from finishing premed. I could scan any article or chapter in junior high and remember every word. Along the 10th grade that went away. I was still successful but i had to work really hard for it after that. Head impacts for an hour were routine in the early 70"s.

  • @LA.DaHunter88
    @LA.DaHunter88 2 года назад +7

    I thought this years ago when CTE first became a thing... Easiest thing to do is just Take Off The Helmet or Remove The Facemask. This would naturally make everyone use the head less and focus more on the shoulders and/or use their skills. It's becoming a more finesse game anyway, plus players would be more easily recognizable which opens a lot doors.

    • @ib344
      @ib344 2 года назад

      It wouldn't do anything rugby gets just as much concussions without helmets... There is no easy fix! u play a hard contact sport your going to get some sort of brain trauma! All these new studies are worrying and have changed both games alot in just a few years. Nrl has become alot less enjoyable with the new concussion rules u basically get tapped on the head and u have to do a head assessment that's hard to pass without a head bumb.

    • @SW-rx2pt
      @SW-rx2pt 2 года назад +2

      Rugby doesn’t get as many, no ways
      A helmet is a false sense of security

  • @Wolf21973
    @Wolf21973 2 года назад +12

    I didn't know cte couldn't be seen until after. It's definitely scary. I had a brain bleed from trauma when I was 21. When they did the MRI they asked if I'd hit my head before. I told them I've hit it several times growing up to the point it brought tears to my eyes. Not from crying either it literally just forced tears out of me. They said I had dark spots in several different places that show previous trauma. My short term memory sucks too. Stuff is no joke.

    • @jameshickson8174
      @jameshickson8174 2 года назад +3

      I smoke a lot of pot and my brain works quite similarly

  • @johncollins211
    @johncollins211 2 года назад +74

    I can remember multiple times cracking heads with another players and getting triple vision for a minute or so then I just shook it off and kept playing. Probably happened once or twice a season from ages of 5 to 18 years old. I can't recall it happening really before the age of 10 as we couldn't hit that hard then but once kids got bigger it started happening. Sometimes I wonder if it has effected my impulse control. I had plenty of self control growing up was reasonably responsible and trustworthy then in my mid twenties I started exhibiting risky behaviors started using drugs more often became and addict. Of course I blame myself for all that but I wonder if football and lacrosse had a small part in losing impulse control later in life.

    • @PsilocybeJedi
      @PsilocybeJedi 2 года назад +4

      Never played football or had any head injuries but I also experienced the same thing in my 20;s, I think that's just a part of life and growing up, now how much any brain trauma you may have experienced actually influences those decisions is up for debate.

    • @greencoolmoss
      @greencoolmoss 2 года назад +1

      Sorry to hear that man

    • @Seasniffer69
      @Seasniffer69 2 года назад +3

      That's possible. I had my first concussion in 7th grade. I was 103lbs and played wing back (right behind the TE. Went back for a fake handoff sweep (I was fast) squared up instantly with a much bigger OLB coming in HOT and I seen a bright flash, stars, double vision. No idea where I was. I got up and walked to the opponents sideline and coach sat me out for the rest of the quarter. This was maybe 2001?
      I didn't play ball after that year. And coincidentally that's where my drug usage started( around 13 ) I've honestly never correlated them to one another. I've only been hit in my head 1 other time like that and I was 23 during a motorcycle crash.

    • @alida9694
      @alida9694 2 года назад

      Stop looking for excuses es on why you fucked up your twenties like that guy said a lot do us did the same you just wanna blame in on sumthing and I bet you sucked at football anyway and it was you getting hit and seeing triple visions and not you hitting others go grow some balls

    • @ConnBann98
      @ConnBann98 2 года назад

      Same my man. Same. It is what it is.

  • @jarodandrews7425
    @jarodandrews7425 2 года назад +7

    Played football from the time I was 6 till I was 21 at college and I only ever had 1 concussion. Just putting it out there that playing football doesn't automatically guarantee head trauma. A lot more safety practices have been made.

    • @zgjfinance2796
      @zgjfinance2796 2 года назад +2

      Left bench doesn’t count as playing 😂

    • @antipro85
      @antipro85 2 года назад +2

      @@zgjfinance2796 Nice joke, to be fair. But you still have to practice and those hits are normally harder than in the game, since you are competing for playing time

    • @zgjfinance2796
      @zgjfinance2796 2 года назад +2

      @@antipro85 thanks for recognizing a joke; Jarod clearly has cte and doesn’t know it haha

    • @yelahammer
      @yelahammer 2 года назад

      Won’t get concussions on the bench 😂

    • @jarodandrews7425
      @jarodandrews7425 2 года назад

      @@yelahammer go give my all state season another view on hudl

  • @swiiper_the_fox
    @swiiper_the_fox 2 года назад +6

    I remember a DB talking about how receivers would rather get hit in the head then their legs. Sit out a couple weeks at max with a concussion or sit out an entire season with a torn knee.

  • @najmgamer4172
    @najmgamer4172 2 года назад +11

    I played football for a middle eastern country for three years and then I broke my arm. Ever since I broke my arm (four years later) I am still fighting ptsd and anxietty issues. It's a really hard fight and I'm trying my best

    • @SuperOCHomes
      @SuperOCHomes 2 года назад

      get a full time job. you won't have time to think about and you'll use your arm without knowing making it normal again

    • @najmgamer4172
      @najmgamer4172 2 года назад

      @@SuperOCHomes I already have a full time job yet I'm physically sick every single day. Just recently I was put on medication to reduce the pain and sickness

  • @brittanyangelina_
    @brittanyangelina_ 2 года назад +1

    EEG Tech here!!! This interview is so needed for my studies! Thanks for dedicating your lives.
    My brother is a wide receiver grad from Notre Dame. This hit home for me in many ways.

    • @rckdude12345
      @rckdude12345 2 года назад

      I had a traumatic brain injury last summer August 28th. 6 nights in the ICU and another 3 nights a couple months after that. I had 1 seizure and have had a bunch of EEGs, including a 72 hour at home EEG. I respect and appreciate what you do so much!

  • @Joerandom23
    @Joerandom23 2 года назад +33

    I had two concussions playing football in high school. I'll still watch the NFL here and there but if I have kids I'm not going to let them play. It's just not worth it in my opinion.

    • @deion312
      @deion312 2 года назад +6

      I’ve had the same thoughts to be honest

    • @Jonathanwebb100
      @Jonathanwebb100 2 года назад +1

      Agreed

    • @Murphydoge
      @Murphydoge 2 года назад +1

      💯 agree

    • @jarodandrews7425
      @jarodandrews7425 2 года назад +4

      Your kid can also wreck a vehicle and never walk again. Will you let them drive?

    • @12hunna35
      @12hunna35 2 года назад +3

      Fair enough. I had 7 concussions in high school, but the discipline brought by football and rugby is the most valuable tool resulting from playing those sports. My son will have that same opportunity.

  • @Sam-pe6yq
    @Sam-pe6yq 2 года назад +5

    Junior Seau is one of the most well respected NFL players of all time. He shot himself in the chest so they could study his brain, he knew he had severe CTE

    • @josephroach9793
      @josephroach9793 2 года назад

      I saw him months before the end he was friendly as heck. Problems? Maybe, but he hid them. You know who else hid them from me ? Aaron Hernandez. I played basketball with him all the time at university of Florida recreation center, nothing but praise for him.
      He looked like a criminal, but acted like a pure gentleman. Then it turns out he had another side. Oh well? Junior seau clearly had another side but it wasn't evil. And then maybe there are guys without cte? I feel that possiblity isnt even discussed.
      But power to them all, bless them all, I've got two memory wipe concussions myself, no regrets here.

  • @goncalo1485
    @goncalo1485 2 года назад +8

    As a non American is kinda of crazy how football is seen as a sport kids should play. Isn’t it obvious that it is not healthy? Specially for children ???????

    • @brodelnaz
      @brodelnaz 2 года назад

      It's a mans sport and most people dont get hurt

    • @goncalo1485
      @goncalo1485 2 года назад +1

      @@brodelnaz correct me if I’m wrong but don’t most high schools have football teams? I know they are not children but still teenagers who’s brains are still developing .
      Just play football like the rest of the world

  • @luckym1580
    @luckym1580 2 года назад +4

    Scary stuff! God bless all those affected by head injury in competitive sport 🙏

  • @yoshilee7101
    @yoshilee7101 2 года назад +16

    Who here remembers filling ur helmet up with water and dumping it all on ur head when it was 109 degrees outside?

    • @BC_E91
      @BC_E91 2 года назад +2

      I remember my teammate throwing up in his helmet because if he threw up on the field, the whole team would have to run gassers 😂

    • @Seasniffer69
      @Seasniffer69 2 года назад +2

      One of the best feelings at practice.

    • @dirtymfnsanchez
      @dirtymfnsanchez 2 года назад +1

      They dunked towels in ice water and threw it on heads

  • @williamzackii912
    @williamzackii912 2 года назад +3

    Let's just say I've been involved in military medicine for a long time. I'm glad this came out with football, because there are many parallel symptoms with combat infantry veterans. Especially mentioning Jr., I've noticed these similarities with a history of TBI/concussion, depression (PTSD), and tinnitus. Us old guys used to call it "Getting your bell rung." You get clocked enough times, that ringing doesn't go away, and there are many of those who have essentially normal hearing with persistent tinnitus. It's not uncommon for those military veterans to be prescribed hearing aids just to manage their tinnitus.

    • @Cam-jx4drgh
      @Cam-jx4drgh 2 года назад +2

      You want to sound mysterious by putting "let's just say" at the start.

    • @ConcernedResident_GiantStack
      @ConcernedResident_GiantStack 2 года назад +1

      man, I have tinnitus always. In fact, I'm shocked when it goes away for like a few seconds. It's like everything is super calm. Last time that happened was back in 2017 when I was on a hike in Mexico. I just sat and was amazed at the beauty of nature. Doubt doctors will ever fix this: they generally don't care about you unless you're rich or dying, and even then there is probably nothing they can do.

  • @antipro85
    @antipro85 2 года назад +64

    After hitting each other as hard as we could at high speed, with our helmets flying off, our high school coach would say "Sounds like rats pissing on cotton, do it again". Some of the best days of my life.

    • @rikmichaels9233
      @rikmichaels9233 2 года назад +21

      Hopefully you have the money for memory care or kids to take care of you when you’re forgetting everything

    • @zakke6851
      @zakke6851 2 года назад +11

      @@rikmichaels9233 worth every minute of it

    • @rikmichaels9233
      @rikmichaels9233 2 года назад +4

      @@zakke6851 lol okay, just saying cuz I take care of my dad with dementia now but he got it from being a cop and had a day job 40+hours, didn’t sleep much for almost 40 years. I’m sure he would say it’s worth it cuz he gave his family a living

    • @zraybroske2416
      @zraybroske2416 2 года назад +2

      Funny thing is, you were the water boy.

    • @antipro85
      @antipro85 2 года назад

      @@zraybroske2416haha basically, but I still had to practice!

  • @FitBlueprint
    @FitBlueprint 2 года назад +21

    I don't think kids should be able to play tackle football until they're atleast 14-15. The fact that kids under 10 are out there getting their developing brains rattled is wild. I played pop Warner and Highschool football and definitely had a few concussions. I can't imagine the level of head trauma pro players experience at that size/speed.

    • @samueltschida7402
      @samueltschida7402 2 года назад +2

      Agreed. I would allow it at 13 at the earliest

    • @danielmattos2813
      @danielmattos2813 2 года назад +2

      But the playing can hardly be claimed to be fully developed till at least 26. Also kids be playing hockey since little and that the same thing in regard to contact.

    • @jarodandrews7425
      @jarodandrews7425 2 года назад +3

      In my experience It’s usually the guys who didn’t play when they were younger who don’t know how to hit correctly and get their shit rocked resulting in concussions.
      Little kids can’t really hit hard enough to do much damage anyways

    • @McCarthyJohn100
      @McCarthyJohn100 2 года назад +1

      The youngest age groups are usually restricted by weight so there aren't a lot of hard hits until they get older and the big kids aren't separated from the small ones

    • @FitBlueprint
      @FitBlueprint 2 года назад

      @@jarodandrews7425 good point but your still a kid at 14 and there's plenty of time to learn how to hit before your done with puberty.

  • @d0ublestr0ker0ll
    @d0ublestr0ker0ll 2 года назад +2

    Leading with your helmet was normal when I played in the 90s. Coaches would discourage it only because it could injure your neck. They'd tell you to keep your head high and hit with your forehead and facemask. We'd still head hunt with the tops of our heads in games, with no flags thrown. Sometimes on kickoffs, blockers and coverage players would run full speed at each other where we'd run in to each other using nothing but the tops of our helmets.

  • @alexrogers9051
    @alexrogers9051 2 года назад +48

    If you think you can’t get serious head trauma from high school sports than you clearly didn’t play contact sports in high school.

    • @Seasniffer69
      @Seasniffer69 2 года назад +3

      Bro we went against 160lb running backs in middle school like 20 years ago who could grow mustaches. And I maybe weighed 100-110lbs.
      I'd say there's a greater risk being younger. At least in highschool sports most boys are well into puberty.

  • @majesticctrees
    @majesticctrees 2 года назад +4

    When I played HS football I got 3 concussions and was knocked unconscious 3 times within 4 years, so 6 total head injuries. No serious long term issues besides being prone to migraines. My brother on the other hand had 2 concussions and a spinal cord injury that required emergency surgery. Doctors said he may end up paralyzed but fortunately came out of surgery okay. His memory suffers a lot now and his doctor says he’s more likely to develop Alzheimer’s or dementia because of it. Even outside of head injuries there’s plenty of other injuries in football that can permanently alter your mobility. It’s a fun sport but it’s more dangerous than most people realize.

    • @diegoledezma4045
      @diegoledezma4045 2 года назад +2

      I think people know it’s dangerous but it’s fun so they don’t care as much. It’s like boxing I know I’m going to get hit in the head but it’s still fun to do.

    • @ibraheemjohnson7246
      @ibraheemjohnson7246 2 года назад +2

      I have a coworker who didn't start having negative symptoms from his college football days until he was around 45 years old.

    • @majesticctrees
      @majesticctrees 2 года назад

      @@diegoledezma4045 yeah it’s one of those things where you expect to get hurt before going into it. My coach’s advice was to hit harder than the other person and it won’t hurt as bad. My brother is a bit older and the rules were more lenient on things like targeting and unsportsmanlike conduct. In one of his games they played a really privileged school near a popular university, so a lot of those kids got offers to play at the local college, but his team was so thug they intentionally injured 9 players in a single game, and 2 of them never played football again. His coach’s advice was make them wish they never played against you. By the time I got to HS the football program was a joke. In my senior year we had 24 total players on Varsity, so all the good players had to play both sides including all special teams. We had just enough to have 1 sub for each player, which means all the starters were way more likely to get injured, hence the numerous head injuries.

  • @ikipearl
    @ikipearl 2 года назад

    this dude sounds just like my homie...sounds like a great guy to hang with ...wish him the best🙏

  • @user-iw1oj6to4r
    @user-iw1oj6to4r 2 года назад +1

    I played football in middle school. Watch cte documentary and didn’t join in high school. I started getting partial seizures everyday until I had a full siezure at school a learned I had a brain tumor. Glad I didn’t play in high school and put my brain through even more.

  • @MrAmitdaswani
    @MrAmitdaswani 2 года назад +3

    Junior Seau was one of my favorite players as a child. I’m still saddened today by losing him.

    • @reptilian_overlord
      @reptilian_overlord 2 года назад +2

      The city of Oceanside lost a hero

    • @ChicanoOne760
      @ChicanoOne760 2 года назад +2

      It's crazy cause he was the people's champ. Humble, gave to the community. Then in his later years he started making erratic decisions.

  • @ojs94bronco43
    @ojs94bronco43 2 года назад +6

    The way the refs cater to the offense it will be flag football before we know it..

  • @xX-qw4of
    @xX-qw4of 2 года назад +58

    Now that I'm retired and think back, football is, without a doubt, the craziest thing I've ever done in my entire life, by a lot.
    My kids will *NEVER* play this sport.

  • @hardline5889
    @hardline5889 2 года назад +1

    I can’t tell you the number of concussions I had in college, being a starting ILB you are always in the mix and the number of times I came to the huddle and couldn’t call the defense is to many to count.

  • @TTV-PARKER
    @TTV-PARKER 2 года назад +1

    Actually it was iron mike Webster from the Pittsburg Steelers that brought it to everyone attention

    • @TTV-PARKER
      @TTV-PARKER 2 года назад

      @Text Me: ±I𝟻𝟶𝟸𝟸𝟽𝟼𝟾𝟸I𝟿 why

  • @zodinero2622
    @zodinero2622 2 года назад

    I only played football in 8th grade, I joined later in the season. It was about 2 months or so. I only played during practice, never really on the actual games. Thankful I didn’t Pursue it any further

  • @tylerwooldridge7933
    @tylerwooldridge7933 2 года назад +2

    I remember when i was in highschool, i played defense, but the coach would occasionally have me line up as a slot receiver, and tell me to earhole the linebackers so they could get run plays off to my side. I would sometimes do that about 6-7 times a game before the other team would change their game plan

  • @rifraf1717
    @rifraf1717 2 года назад +2

    There was something along the lines when Joe interviewed GSP a ways back when he had the redroom starwars thing going on, that GSP said that there will come a time with the advent of CrSPR that sports will no longer be where you find competition and board/video games will become the only place for humanity to find challenge. The sad reality is getting hit in the head regardless of it being a one time thing or not, and then suffering a grade 3 concussion will indeed have life-altering affects. When you watch interviews with Donald Cerrone, he's just fully embraced his fate...so much respect for him as a real gladiator....but cases like Mike Perry or Tony Ferguson...head trauma like what happened to Spencer Fisher...its a real thing. It doesnt matter how you look at it, contact sports new rules will not abate the physiological laws of forced indue trauma to the brain.

  • @guitarplayer6565
    @guitarplayer6565 2 года назад +1

    Was hospitalized in 8th grade for a concussion. We were doing hitting drills just like he described, I’d say in middle school I had at least 10 concussions. For me the tell sign it was more than just a hard hit was the flash of light, taste of iron in the back of your throat loss of time.

  • @staff72
    @staff72 2 года назад

    That happened to me more then once as a kid and as a teenager. Im 50 though….. Everything was about Hitting hard. All those drills..

  • @anthonyemmm
    @anthonyemmm 2 года назад

    Played high school and D1 football at the highest levels. I have had my share of concussions throughout my career. That’s part of the reason I’m mentally fucked now. Depression, suicidal thoughts, loss of focus, anxiety, sensitivity to light etc. living life just dealing with it and trying not to let those thoughts creep in my mind.

  • @ethan928
    @ethan928 2 года назад +1

    I did my research project in year 12 about this exact topic, and by the end, my research paper was scary reading how bad it was

  • @Serpentoffire
    @Serpentoffire 2 года назад

    I remember watching an old game from the 90's a couple of years ago, and me saying "Oh my God it was that violent?" Keep in mind I saw it live at the time!

  • @fuckcensorship69
    @fuckcensorship69 2 года назад +1

    90s football was the best. I only played high school, but it was worth a few concussions. I would gladly sacrifice my 50s 60s and 70s for a few years in the NFL and a couple million....

  • @toml9736
    @toml9736 2 года назад

    When we were signing up they made us sign a wavier and straight told us if your kids get injured or possibly die we can’t be held responsible. Thanks god no one died playing football as far as ik. At least not in college or the nfl

  • @louieo.blevinsmusic4197
    @louieo.blevinsmusic4197 Год назад

    I never knew Erik Anders was on Joe Rogan. Helped sealed the ‘09 NC for my Tide. Rtr, brethren!

  • @cbh148
    @cbh148 2 года назад

    The concussion research gets so much focus now from football, but the benefits are shared with other sports/industries. At 5'7", football was never going to work out for me, but even if I had a better genetic roll of the dice, it still wouldn't appeal to me to participate in like what motocross does. MX helmets have come a long way even just in the last 10 years, no doubt helped by advancements stemming from more safety considerations coming into football.

  • @franciscogomes9844
    @franciscogomes9844 2 года назад +9

    This is the dilemma about being a NFL or UFC fan, at least for me, like we know these guys are destroying their bodies and doing permanent damage to their brain but we still tune in every weekend to watch it. Sometimes I remember that and can't really enjoy the game or the fight, I wonder if I'm the only who feels like this once in a while

    • @ronin4160
      @ronin4160 2 года назад

      I feel similar but I'm also disgusted with college football. Universities making millions upon millions on young adults destroying themselves for just a chance of making it to the NFL. No pay... no REAL education... it's basically squid games

    • @spritemultipack
      @spritemultipack 2 года назад +1

      I don't watch football but atleast those dudes are getting paid well , UFC doesn't compensate nearly enough for the toll it takes on a fighters health.

    • @ronin4160
      @ronin4160 2 года назад

      @@spritemultipack that's a great point. Pay off for being the baddest man on the planet is SOME fame and glory but nothing in terms of money compared to the NFL

    • @smokedgouda1155
      @smokedgouda1155 2 года назад

      I cant watch boxing, thats for sure

  • @leanrambles7468
    @leanrambles7468 2 года назад +3

    "the craziest, most non safe sport.." Yes Joe, unlike the choking, strangling and smashing playfulness of the UFC

  • @bimscutney1242
    @bimscutney1242 2 года назад

    No hit is a “small” hit. Even if your not getting tackled your head is still getting rattled just by blocking people or falling on the ground. As a kid I know I’ve had at least 3 hits to the head that were probably concussions that didn’t get examined.

  • @mrdiippzzz7444
    @mrdiippzzz7444 2 года назад +1

    We called this “meet me in the alley” when I played. Didn’t learn till I was older all the headaches that lasted days after practice were concussions… I got a lot as a child and dad never questioned it always told me to just suck it up and not rely on aspirin to just tough it out.

    • @grimreaperx7x418
      @grimreaperx7x418 2 года назад

      Dam son got me thinkin bout my headaches back in the day but its all good dont act like it wasnt fun. And you still here today so live life love and laugh fuck the rest.

  • @StressNmeowt
    @StressNmeowt 2 года назад +2

    I had hyperextension of my neck from a kickoff play while playing football and that scared me and my family by getting wedge blocked..

  • @erickiyoshiphillips2323
    @erickiyoshiphillips2323 2 года назад +1

    I remember 2009 my senior year I had concussion and I played the whole game after I had to tell my coaches I think I I a concussion I don't know where I'm at. So my mom held me out for 2 games so 2 or more weeks my coach got mad and said I needed to play the very next week during practice. Said tell your mom to stop babying you. That coach got caught taking money in and stealing from boosters after 20 25 years of physical abusing kids hitting them and he got away it until our culture of physical abuse changed just 3 years ago.

  • @RidgeRunner-Inc
    @RidgeRunner-Inc 2 года назад +1

    Eryk has come a long way
    Roll Tide

  • @nusa8498
    @nusa8498 2 года назад

    Get Dan Carcillo on the JRE, it'll make everyone rethink playing these kind of sports! Concussions are not a joke!

  • @ChristiannTyler
    @ChristiannTyler 2 года назад

    My buddy was bigger than me so when we got to freshman ball they brought him up to practice with varsity. They rung his bell so hard that year he’s just not the same person anymore.

  • @vs-yy5cx
    @vs-yy5cx 2 года назад +1

    watch highlights of joe montana, or any qb of that era, getting hit in the nfl, or earl campbell a rb in the same era. so much more brutal than the last 20 yrs, especially for qbs

  • @stevemcvay2220
    @stevemcvay2220 2 года назад

    Joe mentioned NFL super star pay and it really is crazy! Joe made 100 mill with Spotify but some players are making that 100 mill a year for like 2-5 years!!! Especially with their incentives/brand deals!!!

  • @RustCole01
    @RustCole01 2 года назад

    One common phrase you used to hear in football was "getting ear-holed". Basically sprinting at someone's in their blind spot and launching head-first into the side of that player's head.... where the ear-hole in the helmet is. If you are lucky enough to not get flat-lined, you were still gonna end up with ringing ears for the rest of the day. There are legitimate criticisms on the NFL for over-penalizing clean hits, I'll concede on that. However, the players are built so much different than they used to be. Even as recently as the 90's. Those guys were definitely tougher than iron but right now.... these guys are all bigger, stronger, faster. If they didn't change the rules, I am pretty sure we would have seen some deaths. Lawrence Taylor was already dangerous enough. You take that guy and add 10 lbs of muscle and shave 0.15 seconds off his 40 time and you have a serious recipe for smashed skulls.

  • @seanmurphy26
    @seanmurphy26 2 года назад +1

    Here in Texas, the high school games do not even START until we all have concussions.

  • @eddietat95
    @eddietat95 2 года назад +3

    Half of the football team in my high school are, today, either homeless or struggling with addiction. They were mainly defensive linemen, TEs, WRs. The other half are pretty successful in their own right. Funny story: our CB became a cop and, nearly 10 years later, was the one who arrested our QB for armed robbery and drug charges. His charges were then thrown out because the CB and his patrol partner later got convicted for assault in a different case. Ain't CTE a bitch?

  • @markrobertdevison1227
    @markrobertdevison1227 2 года назад

    Same here, nothing would stop me from playing football. I love the sport and watch it religiously. I even started watched the new league even though it isn't anywhere near as good as even top collage rivalries.

  • @masavoy0228
    @masavoy0228 2 года назад

    I remember ESPN had a show that was based around showing the biggest hits of the previous week. I loved that show. "You got JACKED UP"

  • @vitamind2387
    @vitamind2387 2 года назад

    I didn’t play football but I grew up in the 90’s playing baseball and basketball. In baseball we were taught to bulldoze the infielder if they were in your baseline when rounding bases. Basketball, we were taught to throw elbows to get the defender out of your face. Not anymore…..

  • @samanthab1923
    @samanthab1923 2 года назад

    My grandfather played college football back in the day. My dad was born in 35 & there was only track & BBall for hm thru college. Same for my brothers & I. They knew how damaging football is.

  • @xxmowensxx06
    @xxmowensxx06 2 года назад

    Peter Santenello would be an epic guest! He does an awesome job documenting all walks of life.

  • @BeefPapa
    @BeefPapa 2 года назад

    I just lost it at Joe's timid "yah" response when asked if he's familiar with football 2:16

  • @jacmccracken8810
    @jacmccracken8810 2 года назад

    First good hit of every game senior year usually on kick off. I would see a white flash.

  • @kelseywalker2342
    @kelseywalker2342 2 года назад +6

    I remember that drill he's talking about, definitely 1 of the harder hits I took certainly at practice lol

    • @aceeduventures
      @aceeduventures 2 года назад

      Esta sesion de trap igual esta piola
      ruclips.net/video/bT_E_NWeUaQ/видео.html

  • @jjf1986AZ
    @jjf1986AZ 2 года назад

    As a kid I was a linebacker and coaches always taught me to put my helmet to their numbers when tackleing

  • @JAaronMattox
    @JAaronMattox 2 года назад +2

    Eryk still a legend for that strip-sack at the end of the ‘09 natty

  • @jeffblomer3805
    @jeffblomer3805 2 года назад +1

    The drill he was talking about I believe was the Oklahoma drill or some variation of it. Yea that drill was insane.

  • @zzzzz45zzzzz79
    @zzzzz45zzzzz79 2 года назад +4

    Love Eryk. Good dude and I’ve made money betting against him.

    • @aceeduventures
      @aceeduventures 2 года назад

      Esta sesion de trap igual esta piola
      ruclips.net/video/bT_E_NWeUaQ/видео.html

    • @tomleww7975
      @tomleww7975 2 года назад

      Hey 👋

    • @johnbrooks756
      @johnbrooks756 2 года назад

      Man was a dawg at Bama. One of the toughest dudes from any saban team. His ability to say no to a fight has lost him quite a few. But ufc has to have people like him to call last minute if someone gets injured last minute

    • @zzzzz45zzzzz79
      @zzzzz45zzzzz79 2 года назад

      @@johnbrooks756 he states in this podcast that he can’t take short notice fights cause he walks around @ 230.

  • @Imactuallynighthawk
    @Imactuallynighthawk Год назад

    Angle tackle was made to give you a concussion. Punts and kickoffs dangerous as hell too. My coaches got mad at me because I got a concussion and couldn’t pass the cognitive tests to come back. Shit was different back then

  • @tylerwooldridge7933
    @tylerwooldridge7933 2 года назад

    We also had a drill called blood alley, you lined up ten yards apart and they make it where the sidelines were so close you had no choice but to hit the other guy. Typically they would like up the linebackers against the receivers and dbacks to “toughen” us up

  • @ricky4214
    @ricky4214 2 года назад +1

    i'm probably the same age as him, i played before concussion protocol, and he's serious about the angle tackling drill, that was a damn gauntlet every single day. People that haven't hit think its like patty cake because you're wearing a helmet, but put that piece of plastic on your head like he said and go man up and smash each other to the best of your ability. i used to pop a lot of ibuprofen and acetaminophen before every practice and game because the old bell was getting rung almost every play. i remember my first hit in high school football and I was like damn this is real

  • @bobbullethalf
    @bobbullethalf 2 года назад

    Football is a violent sport and no matter how much they make it “safer” it is the most insane and dangerous sport made to man. Have anyone ever saw a 50 year old retired NFL player? The knees are gone, hips are gone, shoulders are shot.

  • @JaredHIll13
    @JaredHIll13 2 года назад +1

    Ive had multiple concussions on dirtbikes through the years, plus a bad car accident where i lost 10hrs of time. multiple times on the bike with a loss of time after talking to those riding with me. Always wearing the best helmet i can afford. After the last one i feel like i dont remember like 2 years of my life from when i was younger... idk if thats possible but if any one reads this that has experienced the same it would b cool to know im not crazy lol.

  • @timbates2052
    @timbates2052 2 года назад

    At the end, he says "I Love Football". Me too!!! For 7 years, in the late 70's and 80's, it was the highlight of my childhood and teenage years. I know today, at 55 yo, I am paying a price, because my thinker don't think very good anymore. Knocked out HARD one time, and probably a dozen or more concussions. Knowing what I know now, and in spite of it all, I WOULD STILL HAVE PLAYED. And I would have tried harder, and worked out more, to be a better player, and possibly play in college, if I knew then what I know now. I had the same shoulder pads and helmet at 9 yo. LOL

    • @ChicanoOne760
      @ChicanoOne760 2 года назад

      That's crazy. U probably get alzheimer's but you don't care.

  • @vincevecchio
    @vincevecchio 2 года назад +1

    Junior Seau is a legend.

  • @prof.finbarrcalamitous
    @prof.finbarrcalamitous 2 года назад

    I Played pop Warner tackle football for 6 seasons as a kid in the early 2000s. It's unreal thinking back on all the drills and hits us 8 year olds used to take lol. These kids don't understand what a true peel back feels like.

  • @markramirez491
    @markramirez491 2 года назад

    I can remember playing middle linebacker for my h.s. jv team, went in for a tackle, hit the ball carrier and my eyes went cross eyed. The other team went back to line to run another play and I couldn't get my eyes to return to normal. Every time I attempted, they came back in. They ran the play, ended up tackling an offense linemen, thinking he had the ball I ran and threw my body into a blur of blue (cause of their jersey colors.) I was flagged but my vision came back the next play because of the delay in the game.

  • @BumAssGolfer
    @BumAssGolfer 2 года назад +1

    Yup angle tackling drills. 2 lines 1 line gets the ball the other line tackles. After you tackle you go jump in the ball carrying line. Repeat this until the coach's blow the whistle. You hit and get hit repeatedly daily in practice after school. Ears ringing all the time, Can't focus on homework. This dude was talking about crackback blocks. I can tell you I played receiver and we called halfback toss crack right. As the wide recieve on the run side I would come in motion jogging towards the quarterback timing the snap of the ball & the toss to the halfback I would key on the outside linebacker who is watching the ball & blind to me at full Sprint cracking on him as he turns towards the play I would crown my helmet on his chin strap. That's how we were taught to crackback block. Its violent and it's extremely dangerous. I knocked a kid out once doing this play and the sound of it & the result of seeing someone laboring for air while unconscious made me quit my senior year 2 games into the season. 25 Years later it's the only play I still recall vividly from that year.

    • @N1mai
      @N1mai 2 года назад +1

      damn bro. one coach always emphasized to keep your head on a swivel, so if you aren’t constantly moving your feet and being aware, of course you can get cracked easily

    • @BumAssGolfer
      @BumAssGolfer 2 года назад

      @@N1mai I agree. They taught that as well but tackling & blocking are 2 different techniques. They also taught us to put your helmet on the chin strap when making a block & drive the defender back by getting up underneath him. That's what happens to a linebacker when cracked except there is whiplash effect from the head traveling at one speed then unaware and without notice being immediately redirected. Its the same thing a punch does when it snaps the neck back. The linebacker I hit was sliding his feet he was following the play his head was moving but when he turned I was there and he never seen me crack him, my helmet moving at full speed was fluid & braced for impact & he was unconscious immediately. That's why it's an illegal play now. That's my point our coaches taught us that technique it's a mentally kill or be killed. They told us to run through the linebacker not make sure he 👀 you and just nudge him. Nah.

  • @siegeprod1811
    @siegeprod1811 2 года назад

    The first drill he was talking about where he got knocked out is called Oklahoma drill and it’s fun as hell

  • @Coach__B
    @Coach__B 2 года назад

    He is 100% correct. Football hitting has changed and so have the helmets.

  • @chrisd4169
    @chrisd4169 2 года назад +1

    Now you got a former football star with CTE running for the Senate!

  • @flagtheoffense
    @flagtheoffense 2 года назад

    I love how all anyone focuses on is the tackle. If you really truly care about player health with regards to brain trauma.... FLAG THE FUCKING OFFENSIVE LINE ON EVERY SNAP. They do ALL of the damage.

  • @VirtualFeats
    @VirtualFeats 2 года назад

    its like rugby - the head injuries are no joke! sending love from Ireland 🇮🇪

  • @bobbywhelan6668
    @bobbywhelan6668 2 года назад

    I’ll never forget how horribly my shoulder pads and helmet fit in high school. It was such a pain

  • @jameslewis6694
    @jameslewis6694 2 года назад

    Sounds like Aussie Rules Football and Rugby, there's a 20min off the field concussion protocol,10-15yrs ago ya just smashed in!