I was surprised that Jinx apologized to Caitlyn for killing her mother and admitted that she didn't know she was there, which shows how much she's changed and dosen't hate Caitlyn anymore.
Eh I didn't take that as much of an apology, though I guess in the tone of how she said it sure. Didn't seem like she was sorry for actually going through with it though, just that her mom happened to be there when she pulled the trigger.
Caitlyn didn t deserve an apology. As piltover is to blame for killing vi and jinx s parents they both are entitled to feel that rage and blow the leaders of piltover. They were left orphaned literally meanwhile cait still had a comfortable life ahead lf her planned plus she is an adult… cait is too entitled and they tried to erase jinx s rage so much it pissed me off. Like vi is so stupid even the ending was again just because she took her sweet time…
@@davidbutler2078exactly. Jinx was going to do it regardless. Just the idea caitlyn took it more personally than reality is why she told her. She really didn’t know her mom was there but then again she didn’t know who all was there minus maybe Jayce and Mel?? Also I don’t think she ever really hated Caitlyn but what she represented, piltover
@@davidbutler2078I think she was sorry, she probably said due to the fact that she has more insight as to how important a mother-daughter relationship is via knowing Isha.
@@나는한국인이아니-l6g"Caitlyn didn't deserve an apology" "piltover was responsible" you realize you're talking about two different entities in two different time periods right? Caitlyn didn't pull the pin that killed vi and jinxes parents on the other hand jinx killed caits mother who was also probably the only councilor that gave a crap about zaun and actually did something for them. Not hating on jinx they're both characters that you can understand. But jinx admitting what she did actually makes her character better, what energy does she have left to feel rage? Maybe she doesn't care about what she did and she just wants to be killed, maybe she does understand what effect her actions had and is making an attempt at giving cait closure she never got herself, that ambiguity is what makes arcane good
I love everything about this conversation, but it hit hard when Cait said "our crimes" instead of "your." They get each other on a new level, and I wish we could have their story continue.
I was really glad for that too! Caitlyn was already on my hit list after becoming an authoritarian dictator basically. I was glad that they at least didn't make her stupid enough to be deluded about what she has done. There are quite enough cops in real life living that delusion, at least cait was honest about it, not that it even makes a difference.
@@Rose-gq5uv Caitlyn literally killed zero people during her “dictatorship” (aka job promotion by Ambessa) lmao, to whom does she owe an apology exactly?
@@Rose-gq5uv oh girl just you wait for the other regions LMAO it gets wayyy worse. What cait did is like, a slap on the wrist compared to what happens in some other regions of runterra lore😂
@@ksalfkdsg I'm literally not even ready for it dawg. I guess Caitlyn mildly redeemed herself by the end. It wasn't much of a redemption and I'm sure that was intentional.
I love that Jinx is self aware enough to know that she probably still would've fired that rocket even if she'd known Caitlyn's mom was there. It's shows a lot of self awareness and shows how far Jinx has come
I don't appreciate this fandom expecting Caitlyn to just get over the fact her mother was murdered though, even the show sort of tells Caitlyn get over it. Because there is a heavy favouritism from the fandom and the writers towards Jinx as she is arguably the show's best character. Still, I don't think people are holding her accountable, because for murdering multiple people, yeah you should go to jail, like wtf?
@@jairusjackson7799I didn't say Caitlyn should forgive Jinx. I said that Jinx is demonstrating an incredible level of self awareness in knowing that she would've still fired that rocket even if she'd known it would kill Caitlyn's mom. Whether Caitlyn should forgive Jinx or not is a different discussion. And honestly I would say no forgiveness is not always the answer. Caitlyn's mom is gone because of a choice Jinx made. Jinx feeling bad now and the fact that she wasn't aware of Caitlyn's mom being there doesn't make it automatically okay
@@gerstein03 It's more of a - Jinx didn't fire that rocket to kill a specific person. In the similar circumstances Jinx would've fired that rocket anyway as a retaliation that Piltover yet again ruined her life and took everything from her. In an universe where Caitlyn didn't pursue Jinx and/or Vi wasn't released, Jinx would've probably just stuck to Silco's orders and there would be peace.
@@jairusjackson7799 did you not watch the show? the problem was that Caitlyn was so obsessed with avenging her mother that she went against everything her mother fought and stood for "the people of zaun deserve to breathe"
@@jairusjackson7799are you daft? No one said she should forgive Jinx but clearly you can see that Cait and Jinx both lost someone close to them, Jinx knows the feeling now and apologizes
You can see just how defeated Jinx looks, and it breaks my heart. I wanted her to find peace, but she spent most of this Act wanting to die. Even Caitlyn noticed it. I feel her pain. I also wish we could've gotten hair-down Jinx under better circumstances.
She got bittersweet ending flying away in the ship at the end, maybe with ekko who knows Yes she survived, watch explosion scene in slow motion. Jinx story is not over yet, but she did what ekko told her "to take a leap forward, sometimes you gotta leave a few things behind." She broke the cycle and escaped.
@@MicholexEkko is not letting her family and Friends who needs their help when Zaun needs him so Bad. And Even if Open to interpretation is not sure if Jinx died or not.
@@Micholex But she still ended up disappearing from everyone's life, just in a less drastic way. I.e. it still shows that she thinks of herself as a barrier to her own sister's happiness. Even despite ultimately doing what she and Cait urged her to do to atone for her actions in some way. She didn't even let Ekko know she's alive despite reconnecting him him. So alive or not, the story still ended with her being a mental wreck that thinks she dooms everyone around her.
@@Jyggalag I do think Jinx knows she has to go, since neither Vi nor the cities can really "heal" if she stays around. For Vi my guess is, as long as Jinx is around she couldn`t focus on her own healing and relationships, since she would always put Jinx`s wellbeing above her own. For the cities my guess is having Jinx around would be like a wedge still seperating them. The people of Piltover still would want her in prison, the people of Zaun would want her free. I am pretty sure the day will come for Jinx to come back to Vi, but for now she had to take the leap and leave everything behind, so everyone can build something new.
She is just so tired in Act 3. Even after she decides to help in the fight, you can see the exhaustion on her face. They did a painfully good job in writing her and voicing her.
Hard to put a bullet in someone who saved your life. For what it’s worth, I think Caitlyn does realise that Jinx was just another part in the tragedy. A victim and perpetrator both.
Jinx never had such problem before, she was demanding Vi to kill Catlyn Even knowing that Catlyn had saved her life and took pretty Bad when she refused. Also Jinx didn't saved Catlyn just fought people who was in her own way.
Jinx murdered multiple people, even her sister's look alike in episode 4 of Season 1. People act like she only killed one person, but her body count is far higher than that. She also committed a terrorist attack in season 1 aside from the one in the council that got people killed. As much as I like Jinx, people need to stop pretending she was more innocent than was. Even if Caitlyn no longer wanted to kill her, being responsible for killing and injuring so many people she would have to spent the rest of her life in jail anyway.
Even I myself would hesitate to kill my mother killer if I walk on her cell and see her like this. Already defeated, like a beat up puppy. Would be so conflicted just like Cait.
Jinx saying "she didn't know her mother was there." Everyone is like saying, that's not an apology. But the intent was to say, this wasn't some sort revenge towards Caitlyn killing her mother. Sure it wasn't an "I'm sorry." But you can tell in the way her voice sounds, that she was sorry about it. The tone in which people talk is also very important to pick up on, when they speak. I have heard a lot of empty words that hold no meaning, her words held alot of pain, which shows she has the self reflection to know the true pain she has caused on Cait
she didnt have to say sorry....llike why? she did the right thing...she just did it for the wrong reasons but rocket was still the right way to go , she didnt nuke innocents...only the guilty ones
@@AmonTheWitch how would she know that? Last news she heard was that Silco had to hand her over to Pilties to have that peace. Because of that initial decision and Silco pondering about it Jinx thought she's being betrayed by all she considers family and all because of Piltover.
@@meiru2453 i didn't say that she knew it? arcane is obviously just a tragedy where everyone tries to do the right thing but does something at the wrong time
man why are the comments full of stupid people. caitlyn is talking to jinx and herself here. jinx dragged her into this mess and shes acknowledging her part in it. later in the episode she lets jinx go, same as jinx lets her go. they both chose to stop the cycle.
fr they be like ohh jinx deserves this cus she did this, ohh cait deserves that cus she did that... LIKE YOU'RE MISSING THE WHOLE POINT OF THEIR STORY WHICH IS TO... BREAK THE CYCLE OMG
Ella Purnell as Jinx might actually be one of the most consistently perfect voice-acting performances I've ever heard. she won the Annie Award for best voice acting in 2021, and she'd warrant it again here,
0:58 Cait's acceptance of what her thirst for vengeance led her to and deciding to "break the cycle" herself is a huge moment here that I believe goes kinda overlooked in favor of Jinx's "apology" (wasn't really that) to her
The moment the mutual hatred between Caitlyn and Jinx died, and both found the strength to apologize and forgive each other, both realizing that they were two sides of the same coin.
Why would Caitlyn apologize? She did nothing wrong to Jinx, Jinx murdered her mother, her sister's look a like from season 1 episode 4, multiple people later in the same episode, council members, and more. She was a mass murderer, regardless of Caitlyn's feelings towards her, she would have gone to prison regardless. Caitlyn letting go of her hatred for the sake of herself and Vi, is not the same as forgiving Jinx. Also, Jinx did nothing to deserve forgiveness, she hasn't made amends for her many, MANY crimes, she did one decent thing and that's it as far as Caitlyn knows. Why do people expect her to just get over it, like she drank her milk or something. She killed her Mom dude, that's not the kind of thing that deserves forgiveness, even if you let go if the pain
@@jairusjackson7799cuz most of these losers don't gaf about their mothers probably. Like I know if my mother was murdered in front of my eyes I'd have done way worse to get revenge. Cait stronger than me for that for sure
@@jairusjackson7799You’re showing the exact view that created this mess. Cait responded to her Mothers death with violence and aggression. In the end, she was blinded and fooled by Ambessa(and maddie), Didn’t catch Jinx(Jinx surrendered herself because she changed), lost Vi and made Ambessa her enemy. Only after this conversation where Jinx and cait decide not to hate each other until the end do they get a decent outcome. If Cait ordered Jinx‘s execution, Vi never would’ve forgiven her that(cycle of violence) and Jinx wouldn’t help Ekko clutch the final fight. Cait also would’ve lost Zaun’s support in the final battle. Jinx was still a Icon for the Zaunites(last they know of her, she free‘d the imprisoned Zaunites during Caits regime), imagine your Hero gets killed by your oppressor.
@@sheepenjoyer3007 Yeah but I don't think Cait 'forgave' her, she was just...tired of the cycle repeating. It's true that Jinx hasn't atoned for all the crimes she had committed. Cait most definitely still hates Jinx for killing Cassandra, but she became strong enough to protect her people than losing herself in madness.
I love the really dark parallel here to the light hearted Jinx and Ziggs comic where she refers to people as “blood filled buildings”. She wasn’t thinking about killing people when she fired at the council, she was firing at “The Council”. She didn’t think about them as people, just as part of the building and the system that caused so much pain. Idk if that makes sense, just resonated with me
i think this is how jinx views her crimes. she loves destruction, shes great at it, she doesnt seem to like KILLing people. most of the time she gets a solo kill, its in the midst of a psychotic breakdown.
The way I see it, even if Cait abdicated her post as general, the new council would've probably decreed it that Jinx be put to death. Cait MAY have been looking for an excuse to let her go, to literally and metaphorically let go of the hatred she felt for Jinx as well. As she was though, that would've been a wasted act.
I feel this was a scene where Jinx really started to look into her actions . Like when Vi ask her how many kids she orphaned and her response is “ Why not? Done it to myself”. But one thing is to brush it off and later really sink into it and realize you have destroyed a lot of families and people and the regret comes in . Like finally acknowledging it. So It Feels that it was not just about Caitlyn but everyone else. That’s how I interpreted it at least .
Agreed. Before this Jimx had felt guilt over a couple specific things, killing Silco and Mylo and Clagger, both of which were accidental and only hurt because they were people she personally cared about, she’d been shown to straight up enjoy killing other people, even after living with Isha making up with Vi she hadn’t really expressed any regrets over her crimes. This seems like the first time Jinx has really reflected on just how many people she’s hurt and killed and felt real remorse, good to see her finally getting it
@@AashishkebabNo she don't, she clearly enjoyed the pain she caused and Made complex plans to hurt others, she never cared about people Except those close to her.
@@JustLoroIT'S HER FAULT, not totally but she could have chosen other path, she is not the only one with trauma, she had no control over the situation but had control over her respondes, and she chosed hurt others.
The whole time they were *cough* doing the deed, all I thought was "Hey, there's a war going on and you're having the time of your life NOW, right there?"
such a great scene, especially on rewatch. they finally seem to understand each other. cait says "no amount of good deeds can undo our crimes." she's talking about her own mistakes as much as jinx's. battling her own frustration and guilt. when jinx says "do what you came here to do", it shows jinx not only understands the hurt she has inflicted, but accepts responsibility for it. she believes she deserves punishment and sees herself as a monster. they both are full of guilt and remorse. ironically, this seems to unlock cait's own soft heart. she's able to start letting go of her hatred and pain, both she sees jinx now for who she really is in this moment- a sad, broken girl. a product of a broken society, and because cait knows that hatred and rage will not bring any healing.
Cait wanted Jinx to be the super bad monster so bad so she can kill it without remorse and be "justofied and morally correct" feom her point of view and first she saved her life and then she's a depressed teenager who regrets everything she did. Cait seems angry because she can no longer only blame her and has no excuse to kill her, because that means she has to the admmit Jinx is not the only villan of the tale (not sure if that expression is used in English)
I think she's projecting hate, it's not real. Hatred and revenge can only take you so far, depending on how attached you are to your emotions and how much they guide your actions. We can see both of them extremely exhausted here. In this scene Cait is projecting her hatred because it has been her course of action for a whole year, it is what is expected of her, but she has always been rational, driven by facts and logic, so emotional burdens are not good fuel for courses of action for people like her. Jinx, on the other hand, had been taking actions based on the things she lost, the justified hatred on the top side because she lost everything to them. It worked well for her for a while because until then the causes of greatest loss for her came from the top side. For years she was accustomed to fighting back after fighting back, her actions based on the actions of others as the agent of chaos she represents. But now this loss [Isha] didn't come from anyone, there's nothing to fight back. That's why she feels empty. In this scene she is completely exposed, with no defenses, nothing. It's Jinx in its purest essence. It's where she's finally aware of what she's done and who she really is [but no perspective of future]. And that, for someone who spent years with a clouded mind, is pure hell. Both are exhausted. They both don't even have the strength to hate each other. This is where they decide to break the cycle.
@@mayaraqueiroz1849It's sick how people justify Jinx who is a sadistic mass murder with a genocidal Streak who just stoped because someone she cared about got dead. And try to vilify Catlyn who was chasing a terrorist while prevetenting a war (who Jinx was causing) they forget Catlyn opted For chasing Jinx as alternative of the full war others wanted. While Cait was angry and admits didn't acted Well, dosen't compare to Jinx actions.
the comment section shows how important media literacy is like I swear some of yall watching the show with your eyes closed Lol! Literally I don't get why yall arguing about whether cait or jinx is better when they were made to be parallels and the whole theme of their story is the cycle of violence and learning to break the cycle. Season 1 ep 9's title "the monster you created" refers to both of them. Jinx is the monster Vi/piltover created, and Cait is the monster Jinx created. Cait also said at the end that none of them can erase their mistakes. Thankfully at the end here we see that both of them have learned to put down their hatred and "break the cycle". The way some of yall sound "ohh the enforcers killed jinx's parents so cait deserves to have her parents killed since she's an enforcer" etc. etc. literally missing the whole point of their story and thats why both jinx and cait are better than all you dumbasses who would only be the ones continuing this cycle if you were in universe lmao
It is because Topside is the prepetuator, it matters who started a conflict, a war, Zaunites become monsters due to Piltover's opression first, then they take it out on Piltover, Caitlyn and Jinx are nothing alike at all, It is like a narcissistic abusive person abusing someone else, a family member perhaps, over years, and only when after years of pain and trauma and domestic abuse, that victim lashes back at it's opressor, suddenly that same opressor acts aghast and shocked and self-righteous and conisders itself the victim and gaslights it's victim into oblivion, making them to appear as the monster, this is unfathomobly toxic and abusive and exploitive, and Caitlyn and Jinx's dynamic reminds people of this dynamic. I mean those who take Jinx's side, not those who take Caitlyn's obviously.
In this scene Caitlyn hates herself not because she feels guilty for not killing Jinx in ep 9 of s1, it's not like that, I feel there is a deeper meaning which is that Caitlyn hated herself for the bad things she did because of her hatred for Jinx. (I mean her hatred for Jinx made her do bad things and because she did those things she hated herself). So now she decided to let go of her anger and forgive Jinx. Not only for herself, but she also let go of her hatred for Jinx in favor of her love for Vi as well. And this scene showed us that there is no apology at all I don't know why some people say that Jinx apologized she didn't apologize but admitted her mistake and Cait did the same thing (neither of them apologized, and there was no need to. They admitted that they made mistakes and can't undo them, but the cycle of violence and hatred has to end) That's the meaning of this scene, at least for me
Jinx started feeling the guilt of killing Cait's mom the minute she saw her willing to help Vi to save Vander, in that very moment She realised how muck Cait cares for Vi and how she's willing to let go of her revenge for Vi's sake. Cait loves Vi more than she hates Jinx, and I love how they are both owning up to their mistakes in this scene. I really hope we'll get to see more of these characters in other spinoff shows, Ekko and Mel too, I don't know anything about League of legends but I'm hoping there are other storylines including all these characters
She looks like Ophelia with her hair down. A beautiful woman driven into madness by tragic circumstances that would eventually lead her to her suicide.
She had lost all hope for living 💔 But I think she's alive. Surely the creators don't want their moat famous character to die if they want us to watch future projects right 😅😢
It breaks my heart seeing jinx like this. I thought she’d be vengeful but she actually became depressed and suicidal. She can’t catch a break. Off topic but the girl singing sounds like a mix of Billie Eilish and Melanie Martinez
Jinx actually showing and dealing with remorse….losing Isha must have really given her perspective what it’s like to lose something, taken from you, instead of being the one to take 😢
Are you serious? Jinx had lost both her parents when she was like 5-6, then lost her family (brothers, Sister and father) again when she was 10-11, then she lost her father again in s1(Silco), i'm pretty sure Jinx knows better than anyone what it is like to loose something, Caitlyn can't even comprehend.
@@Blaidd1298Isha was Jinx’s fault. The writers have said that already. She knows what it is to lose someone. She doesn’t know, or at least she didn’t, know what it was like to be the one at fault with no one to blame but herself for it.
Did anyone else notice what nail she was stabbing it was her blue nail which represents powder and it was jinx stabbing powder please tell me I’m not the only one who noticed 😅😮
Small detail but notice how Cait brought Jinx decent food. I think better than what Vi had in prison. On the first season, Vi asked Cait if she knew what the prison food was like when they were in the market. I think it's kinda thoughtful that Cait is now making a little difference with Jinx knowing Vi had to go through shit before.
If Vi created the "monster" in Jinx, Jinx created the "monster" in Caitlyn This whole time we literally had two sides of a nation fight over a baddie with red hair because of her good heart and how it posed as the key for revolution in "Breaking the Cycle" and a positive new start Not only that but Vi had the influence of bringing a sense of peace, justice and belonging to both women of opposing sides that are also two sides of the same coin both misfits/overlooked, gun experts, grieved by the death of loved ones, conflicted with their mistakes that put their loved ones in danger/pushed them away . . . ugh
@@LintuWaterfall-ey9xo this is where she begins to let go, but it takes until the last scene with her to actually do so. I like that it's a process, not done in a single moment.
Jinx kill 20 people People in comments: she’s just broken it’s ok. We love you Jiiiinx❤❤❤ Caitlyn kill nobody People in comments: OMG she’s fkin MONSTER 😂😂😂 Brainless
Jinx kills a dozen enforcers and and a handful of council members who are her oppressors and have orphaned her when she was 5-6: OMG TERRORIST HAVE HER AT THE GALLOWS, UNFORGIVABLE. Caitlyn after gassing an entire city, causing god knows how many people to fall ill and potentionally die, start a war, invading an already opressed and broken and repressed City(by her family and mother), possibly resulting in countless deaths from both sides, and countless people being beaten and tortured, and majority of the all the victims of the aforementioned being civilians, including children: Ofcourse totally justifiable makes total sense nothing wrong here Caitlyn had every right to do all that she is better than everyone.
This is depressing broken Jinx. This is like the third or fourth time. Someone very close to her and ends up gone. I don't blame her from this episode and I sure as hell don't blame her from the next one I know what that's like cuz I lived it.
I think she herself wasnt sure about that. came in to confront the criminal, but saw the broken girl. And i think part of her knew that was what she would find (based on how she talked to Vi previously) She basically came to tell her she cant hate her anymore, despite everything. She made Jinx into a demon in her head, embodying everything wrong with the world, but after Isha's death that image shattered.
@@xCoatlicuex You have not felt being stepped on by boots your whole life and not allowed to fight back. If you think about it, Jinx has only unalived people who deserved it.
as a colombian, is very funny to hear foreigners pacifist reactions to scenes like this. like HOLY SHT SHE USED CHEMICAL WARFARE? and im like: why hasnt the army tried this against the guerrillas? like its been 70 years come on finish the war for fcks sake.
Because stories have to end, and in the case of a redemption arc, you've used up everything you had with the character. part of why we love Jinx, is that the writers didn't hold back with her-but that comes with a price, and the price is a short life.
@@BlastFromThePastTheGoodOldDays This show is very meticulous at every detail so I wouldn`t call that ending "open". But anyways, everybody believes at what they want.
@@TinyGreyOwl you are the one saying she is not dead, even though the episode suggests she is dead. this universes jinx died, but people try and find hints and theories to suggest she didn't. so maybe it is an open ending, believe what you want---that is what an open ending is. no definitive answer one way or the other
It's interesting how Jinx is that character who divides opinions, just as she could just be labeled a murderer, we need to take into account the place where she lived, which was rotten in itself, the fact that she didn't even receive good things since she was young, counting on the death of Cat's mother and others, just as we see Cat as the one who is on the right and correct side when Pitolver has his rotten side, also a really well-written character, but I still defend her because her case is the same as a child never being exposed to love since she was little, doing stupid things and being considered a mistake.
She Isn't acting righteous is admiting her crimes but she has every reason as any other Piltover and several Zaunites of hate Jinx for all the crimes she has done and the pain she has caused.
@@jeanmatos5601 She was a killer for Silco, implied to have killed entire families. She destroyed the council after she herself shot Silco, who definitely wanted to kill Vi and have Jinx kill her new friend and love interest.
@@jeanmatos5601she kills people, kidnaps, commits war crimes, forced her sister into choosing her or Cait. She isn't entirely evil but she's not entirely good either.
Cait saying "I've hated myself..." And "no amount of good deeds can undo our crimes !" really shows how much she blames herself for what she did, all the pain she caused while she was trying to get her revenge. Now that she has Jinx in front of her, she decides to let her go and forgive her 🥰
the second i finished the first season, i remember thinking two main things: 1. caitlyn has every right to have revenge 2. but if there's anyone who could have the heart to forgive jinx, its caitlyn (insert caitlyn being an actual sweetheart to everyone in the first season like her hugging huck bro)
И больше всех Я бы хотел бы всех свою семью спасти как Дэдпул Росомаха не заниматьсясексомайвиВульфКонстантина. Потому что я знаю что она Волк любовь и она моя родная и она Росомаха волк. И Мстители 6 секретных воина тоже его я занимался любовь и даже занимался бы даже когда кто-то спит тоже и в своей комнате где умер Я даже хотела мечеть её обнять сказать ей Спасибо богу за такой подарок на свете и дети свиньи всё-всё-всё намаз делать и принимать мусульманство Вера. Попроси Бога прощения за всё за все грехи Проклятие всё виноват и всё такое Я бы хотел вернуться из вернуться в как ворон как сильно пожалуйста пожалуйста Я не хочу жить в аду или в раю пожалуйста или в даже не хочу пожалуйста. . Что Аллах не простит меня и пусть у меня накажет я заслуживаю это наказание Я и моя мама тоже тебя принимает очень Я не хочу ответить перед судом мне страшно даже. Всё что я сказал тебе прощай навсегда..
I think it's just that Vi sucks as a person, also their relationship is politically infused and that is a curse for writing, i knew from the start that Caitlyn and Vi's story is going to suck and not be on par with the rest of story, just for sole reason that it is Lgbt
@Blaidd1298 Exactly they only made that scene for the fan base we didn't have to see it or maybe do it at the end it just felt off jinx telling vi I'm gonna kill myself and vi 20 min later being horny like wtf
Vi was literally responding to the fact that Cait just told her that she literally ordered the guards away because she knew that Vi would go there to break Jinx out of her cell Cait deliberately facilitated Jinx going free, based entirely off of the trust she has in Vi, that's a huge statement to someone who just got done saying she lost everyone.
@@xCoatlicuex but she doesnt want to anymore. not because she ddoesnt have reason to hate her, but because she has reason(s) not to. she knows she is a victim too.
@pokerface4396 dude shut hell up. Jinx not kill kids you defend caitlyn almost kill kids so what the hell you talking about. You have no business to talk. About jinx
It's like they forgot the entire series before it. If you took Vi and Jinx out of the last two episodes it wouldn't even make a difference, and that's disappointing as fuck. They should have resolved the plot with Ambessa, as well as Vi, Jinx, and Vander/Warwick. Then had machine Jesus Viktor be a tease for the next show.
SOME people can change. SOME people can learn to be better. Some can realize what they're doing is wrong. If you truly believe in rehabilitative justice then YOU NEED to extend your hand that way as well. Otherwise you just leave them to be re-radicalized with greater hatred towards YOU and by extension us. Safe travels friend. o7
Her absolutely just giving up on life is heart breaking to see god she was never meant to be this unhappy and pained… I’d give anything to see her happy again☹️🩵
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I never thought I would see Jinx with her hair down.
It's cut
ashe looked soo pretty with tho
Real, and she looks so beauty
that's because she loosing her child in the battle
@@reeldealtv1289 yeah I know it's cut now.
I was surprised that Jinx apologized to Caitlyn for killing her mother and admitted that she didn't know she was there, which shows how much she's changed and dosen't hate Caitlyn anymore.
Eh I didn't take that as much of an apology, though I guess in the tone of how she said it sure. Didn't seem like she was sorry for actually going through with it though, just that her mom happened to be there when she pulled the trigger.
Caitlyn didn t deserve an apology. As piltover is to blame for killing vi and jinx s parents they both are entitled to feel that rage and blow the leaders of piltover. They were left orphaned literally meanwhile cait still had a comfortable life ahead lf her planned plus she is an adult… cait is too entitled and they tried to erase jinx s rage so much it pissed me off. Like vi is so stupid even the ending was again just because she took her sweet time…
@@davidbutler2078exactly. Jinx was going to do it regardless. Just the idea caitlyn took it more personally than reality is why she told her. She really didn’t know her mom was there but then again she didn’t know who all was there minus maybe Jayce and Mel??
Also I don’t think she ever really hated Caitlyn but what she represented, piltover
@@davidbutler2078I think she was sorry, she probably said due to the fact that she has more insight as to how important a mother-daughter relationship is via knowing Isha.
@@나는한국인이아니-l6g"Caitlyn didn't deserve an apology" "piltover was responsible" you realize you're talking about two different entities in two different time periods right? Caitlyn didn't pull the pin that killed vi and jinxes parents on the other hand jinx killed caits mother who was also probably the only councilor that gave a crap about zaun and actually did something for them. Not hating on jinx they're both characters that you can understand. But jinx admitting what she did actually makes her character better, what energy does she have left to feel rage? Maybe she doesn't care about what she did and she just wants to be killed, maybe she does understand what effect her actions had and is making an attempt at giving cait closure she never got herself, that ambiguity is what makes arcane good
I love everything about this conversation, but it hit hard when Cait said "our crimes" instead of "your." They get each other on a new level, and I wish we could have their story continue.
Even when she talked with Vi she said "our" symbolising that they are not that different from each other
I was really glad for that too! Caitlyn was already on my hit list after becoming an authoritarian dictator basically. I was glad that they at least didn't make her stupid enough to be deluded about what she has done. There are quite enough cops in real life living that delusion, at least cait was honest about it, not that it even makes a difference.
@@Rose-gq5uv Caitlyn literally killed zero people during her “dictatorship” (aka job promotion by Ambessa) lmao, to whom does she owe an apology exactly?
@@Rose-gq5uv oh girl just you wait for the other regions LMAO it gets wayyy worse.
What cait did is like, a slap on the wrist compared to what happens in some other regions of runterra lore😂
@@ksalfkdsg I'm literally not even ready for it dawg. I guess Caitlyn mildly redeemed herself by the end. It wasn't much of a redemption and I'm sure that was intentional.
I love that Jinx is self aware enough to know that she probably still would've fired that rocket even if she'd known Caitlyn's mom was there. It's shows a lot of self awareness and shows how far Jinx has come
I don't appreciate this fandom expecting Caitlyn to just get over the fact her mother was murdered though, even the show sort of tells Caitlyn get over it. Because there is a heavy favouritism from the fandom and the writers towards Jinx as she is arguably the show's best character.
Still, I don't think people are holding her accountable, because for murdering multiple people, yeah you should go to jail, like wtf?
@@jairusjackson7799I didn't say Caitlyn should forgive Jinx. I said that Jinx is demonstrating an incredible level of self awareness in knowing that she would've still fired that rocket even if she'd known it would kill Caitlyn's mom. Whether Caitlyn should forgive Jinx or not is a different discussion. And honestly I would say no forgiveness is not always the answer. Caitlyn's mom is gone because of a choice Jinx made. Jinx feeling bad now and the fact that she wasn't aware of Caitlyn's mom being there doesn't make it automatically okay
@@gerstein03 It's more of a - Jinx didn't fire that rocket to kill a specific person. In the similar circumstances Jinx would've fired that rocket anyway as a retaliation that Piltover yet again ruined her life and took everything from her. In an universe where Caitlyn didn't pursue Jinx and/or Vi wasn't released, Jinx would've probably just stuck to Silco's orders and there would be peace.
@@jairusjackson7799 did you not watch the show? the problem was that Caitlyn was so obsessed with avenging her mother that she went against everything her mother fought and stood for "the people of zaun deserve to breathe"
@@jairusjackson7799are you daft? No one said she should forgive Jinx but clearly you can see that Cait and Jinx both lost someone close to them, Jinx knows the feeling now and apologizes
You can see just how defeated Jinx looks, and it breaks my heart. I wanted her to find peace, but she spent most of this Act wanting to die. Even Caitlyn noticed it. I feel her pain.
I also wish we could've gotten hair-down Jinx under better circumstances.
She got bittersweet ending flying away in the ship at the end, maybe with ekko who knows
Yes she survived, watch explosion scene in slow motion.
Jinx story is not over yet, but she did what ekko told her "to take a leap forward, sometimes you gotta leave a few things behind."
She broke the cycle and escaped.
@@MicholexEkko is not letting her family and Friends who needs their help when Zaun needs him so Bad. And Even if Open to interpretation is not sure if Jinx died or not.
@xCoatlicuex yeah he probably stayed in the city, but its up to viewers interpretation i guess, jinx tho... is definitely on that ship
@@Micholex But she still ended up disappearing from everyone's life, just in a less drastic way. I.e. it still shows that she thinks of herself as a barrier to her own sister's happiness. Even despite ultimately doing what she and Cait urged her to do to atone for her actions in some way. She didn't even let Ekko know she's alive despite reconnecting him him. So alive or not, the story still ended with her being a mental wreck that thinks she dooms everyone around her.
@@Jyggalag I do think Jinx knows she has to go, since neither Vi nor the cities can really "heal" if she stays around. For Vi my guess is, as long as Jinx is around she couldn`t focus on her own healing and relationships, since she would always put Jinx`s wellbeing above her own. For the cities my guess is having Jinx around would be like a wedge still seperating them. The people of Piltover still would want her in prison, the people of Zaun would want her free. I am pretty sure the day will come for Jinx to come back to Vi, but for now she had to take the leap and leave everything behind, so everyone can build something new.
The strength Ambessa lacks, the strength to forgive.
To forgive and walk away, which is what Mara warned Ambessa about.
She is just so tired in Act 3. Even after she decides to help in the fight, you can see the exhaustion on her face. They did a painfully good job in writing her and voicing her.
Hard to put a bullet in someone who saved your life.
For what it’s worth, I think Caitlyn does realise that Jinx was just another part in the tragedy. A victim and perpetrator both.
Yea, she saved her ass twice now.
Jinx never had such problem before, she was demanding Vi to kill Catlyn Even knowing that Catlyn had saved her life and took pretty Bad when she refused.
Also Jinx didn't saved Catlyn just fought people who was in her own way.
@@xCoatlicuexJinx purposefully saved Cait from Rictus. She had already knocked Singed out, so Jinx could have let her die. But she didnt
Jinx murdered multiple people, even her sister's look alike in episode 4 of Season 1. People act like she only killed one person, but her body count is far higher than that. She also committed a terrorist attack in season 1 aside from the one in the council that got people killed.
As much as I like Jinx, people need to stop pretending she was more innocent than was. Even if Caitlyn no longer wanted to kill her, being responsible for killing and injuring so many people she would have to spent the rest of her life in jail anyway.
@@jairusjackson7799 What a simple minded comment.
I'm really happy Caitlyn didn't kill Jinx
killing jinx means losing vi too
She understood that she too is suffering
Just returning the favor
She should have
Even I myself would hesitate to kill my mother killer if I walk on her cell and see her like this.
Already defeated, like a beat up puppy. Would be so conflicted just like Cait.
Jinx saying "she didn't know her mother was there." Everyone is like saying, that's not an apology. But the intent was to say, this wasn't some sort revenge towards Caitlyn killing her mother. Sure it wasn't an "I'm sorry." But you can tell in the way her voice sounds, that she was sorry about it. The tone in which people talk is also very important to pick up on, when they speak. I have heard a lot of empty words that hold no meaning, her words held alot of pain, which shows she has the self reflection to know the true pain she has caused on Cait
she didnt have to say sorry....llike why? she did the right thing...she just did it for the wrong reasons but rocket was still the right way to go , she didnt nuke innocents...only the guilty ones
@@HK-gm8pe well she nuked them in the moment they were planning to change
@@AmonTheWitch how would she know that? Last news she heard was that Silco had to hand her over to Pilties to have that peace. Because of that initial decision and Silco pondering about it Jinx thought she's being betrayed by all she considers family and all because of Piltover.
@@meiru2453 i didn't say that she knew it? arcane is obviously just a tragedy where everyone tries to do the right thing but does something at the wrong time
@@AmonTheWitchthat's what you get for staying at work late.
Jinx cannot catch a break
Nooo
Good
she gave herself a break by leaving the city
@@soggy_apples true
@@OreoOreoCookie234shut up man, you don't see the things Jinx went through
The fact that Ishas death caused her to sink into such a deep state of sadness really makes this scene impact you so much harder
Isha's death was the straw that broke the camel's back. Jinx was done with everything
Bro, isha didn’t deserved to die😭, so painful
I was crying seeing jinx like this😭
She can't help it, you know. Isha just died trying to save her. To think that a girl so very young, that she had grown very fond of her......
man why are the comments full of stupid people. caitlyn is talking to jinx and herself here. jinx dragged her into this mess and shes acknowledging her part in it. later in the episode she lets jinx go, same as jinx lets her go. they both chose to stop the cycle.
IKR I CAN'T WITH THESE PEOPLE
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What do you mean by stupid people what are they saying?
fr they be like ohh jinx deserves this cus she did this, ohh cait deserves that cus she did that...
LIKE YOU'RE MISSING THE WHOLE POINT OF THEIR STORY WHICH IS TO... BREAK THE CYCLE OMG
Yeah i realized that this show is a bit heavy for some people. They can't understand the subtle messages and hidden ideas of this show.
Ella Purnell as Jinx might actually be one of the most consistently perfect voice-acting performances I've ever heard.
she won the Annie Award for best voice acting in 2021, and she'd warrant it again here,
0:58 Cait's acceptance of what her thirst for vengeance led her to and deciding to "break the cycle" herself is a huge moment here that I believe goes kinda overlooked in favor of Jinx's "apology" (wasn't really that) to her
This whole scene is amazing, but jinx clawing at her own hangnail makes me shiver. Its crazy how they perfectly portray that tic.
The moment the mutual hatred between Caitlyn and Jinx died, and both found the strength to apologize and forgive each other, both realizing that they were two sides of the same coin.
Why would Caitlyn apologize? She did nothing wrong to Jinx, Jinx murdered her mother, her sister's look a like from season 1 episode 4, multiple people later in the same episode, council members, and more. She was a mass murderer, regardless of Caitlyn's feelings towards her, she would have gone to prison regardless.
Caitlyn letting go of her hatred for the sake of herself and Vi, is not the same as forgiving Jinx. Also, Jinx did nothing to deserve forgiveness, she hasn't made amends for her many, MANY crimes, she did one decent thing and that's it as far as Caitlyn knows. Why do people expect her to just get over it, like she drank her milk or something. She killed her Mom dude, that's not the kind of thing that deserves forgiveness, even if you let go if the pain
@@jairusjackson7799I don't think you understand Jinx’s character or her motivations tbh. Watch the show again
@@jairusjackson7799cuz most of these losers don't gaf about their mothers probably. Like I know if my mother was murdered in front of my eyes I'd have done way worse to get revenge. Cait stronger than me for that for sure
@@jairusjackson7799You’re showing the exact view that created this mess. Cait responded to her Mothers death with violence and aggression. In the end, she was blinded and fooled by Ambessa(and maddie), Didn’t catch Jinx(Jinx surrendered herself because she changed), lost Vi and made Ambessa her enemy.
Only after this conversation where Jinx and cait decide not to hate each other until the end do they get a decent outcome. If Cait ordered Jinx‘s execution, Vi never would’ve forgiven her that(cycle of violence) and Jinx wouldn’t help Ekko clutch the final fight.
Cait also would’ve lost Zaun’s support in the final battle. Jinx was still a Icon for the Zaunites(last they know of her, she free‘d the imprisoned Zaunites during Caits regime), imagine your Hero gets killed by your oppressor.
@@sheepenjoyer3007 Yeah but I don't think Cait 'forgave' her, she was just...tired of the cycle repeating. It's true that Jinx hasn't atoned for all the crimes she had committed. Cait most definitely still hates Jinx for killing Cassandra, but she became strong enough to protect her people than losing herself in madness.
It's so sad hearing Jinx say "There are no happy endings". She truly loved Isha and her death broke her completely..
Jinx: Say Less, Say Less
okay but the way she was picking the skin next to her nail gave me the biggest ick 😭
My nails hurt seeing that
Me too 😭😭 I grimaced watching the scene
I love the really dark parallel here to the light hearted Jinx and Ziggs comic where she refers to people as “blood filled buildings”. She wasn’t thinking about killing people when she fired at the council, she was firing at “The Council”. She didn’t think about them as people, just as part of the building and the system that caused so much pain.
Idk if that makes sense, just resonated with me
That's pretty much the tale of 'Arcane', isn't it.
A circle of violence and people dehumanizing eachother.
i think this is how jinx views her crimes. she loves destruction, shes great at it, she doesnt seem to like KILLing people. most of the time she gets a solo kill, its in the midst of a psychotic breakdown.
@@JustLoro and most of the people she intentionally kills are fireflies or enforcers - both groups that wear masks
“There won’t be a trial” so much for bringing her to justice, lmao
The way I see it, even if Cait abdicated her post as general, the new council would've probably decreed it that Jinx be put to death. Cait MAY have been looking for an excuse to let her go, to literally and metaphorically let go of the hatred she felt for Jinx as well. As she was though, that would've been a wasted act.
Well she is a terrorist, a mass murder and almost caused a war. There Isn't a Lot to discuss
I feel this was a scene where Jinx really started to look into her actions . Like when Vi ask her how many kids she orphaned and her response is “ Why not? Done it to myself”. But one thing is to brush it off and later really sink into it and realize you have destroyed a lot of families and people and the regret comes in . Like finally acknowledging it. So It
Feels that it was not just about Caitlyn but everyone else. That’s how I interpreted it at least .
Agreed. Before this Jimx had felt guilt over a couple specific things, killing Silco and Mylo and Clagger, both of which were accidental and only hurt because they were people she personally cared about, she’d been shown to straight up enjoy killing other people, even after living with Isha making up with Vi she hadn’t really expressed any regrets over her crimes. This seems like the first time Jinx has really reflected on just how many people she’s hurt and killed and felt real remorse, good to see her finally getting it
@@anatoldenevers237Jinx always felt guilt but also cognitive dissonance as she believed she was always this destructive figure.
@@Aashishkebab she was made to believe this, by being called a jinx, and then silco grooming her to become a weapon. it was never her fault
@@AashishkebabNo she don't, she clearly enjoyed the pain she caused and Made complex plans to hurt others, she never cared about people Except those close to her.
@@JustLoroIT'S HER FAULT, not totally but she could have chosen other path, she is not the only one with trauma, she had no control over the situation but had control over her respondes, and she chosed hurt others.
In this moment Caitlyn recognized how much Jinx was suffering
If Ella Purnell dont win some sort of an Award, ts more rigged than the Tyson vs Jake Paul fight
For real Jinx has to be one of the best voice acting performances ever
I cant look at the cell the same way knowing what happens later in it 😂
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Holy shit I didn't realise the likes thxs
I just screamed at my tv and was like: wow Vi!!! At least a different cell!!!
The whole time they were *cough* doing the deed, all I thought was "Hey, there's a war going on and you're having the time of your life NOW, right there?"
@lordsackay I weirdly didn't care I really liked watching it
@@anothertimeoneday Depends on what part you liked, them being on good terms or the act itself. If it's the act, then it's weird.
Yeah, there's war going on and her sister literally was going to kill herself, it's a weird placement,threw me off lol
such a great scene, especially on rewatch. they finally seem to understand each other. cait says "no amount of good deeds can undo our crimes." she's talking about her own mistakes as much as jinx's. battling her own frustration and guilt. when jinx says "do what you came here to do", it shows jinx not only understands the hurt she has inflicted, but accepts responsibility for it. she believes she deserves punishment and sees herself as a monster. they both are full of guilt and remorse. ironically, this seems to unlock cait's own soft heart. she's able to start letting go of her hatred and pain, both she sees jinx now for who she really is in this moment- a sad, broken girl. a product of a broken society, and because cait knows that hatred and rage will not bring any healing.
these last 3 episodes Cait is really more gorgeous with the new look 😍😍😍😍😍😍
So?
Cait wanted Jinx to be the super bad monster so bad so she can kill it without remorse and be "justofied and morally correct" feom her point of view and first she saved her life and then she's a depressed teenager who regrets everything she did. Cait seems angry because she can no longer only blame her and has no excuse to kill her, because that means she has to the admmit Jinx is not the only villan of the tale (not sure if that expression is used in English)
I think she's projecting hate, it's not real. Hatred and revenge can only take you so far, depending on how attached you are to your emotions and how much they guide your actions. We can see both of them extremely exhausted here.
In this scene Cait is projecting her hatred because it has been her course of action for a whole year, it is what is expected of her, but she has always been rational, driven by facts and logic, so emotional burdens are not good fuel for courses of action for people like her.
Jinx, on the other hand, had been taking actions based on the things she lost, the justified hatred on the top side because she lost everything to them. It worked well for her for a while because until then the causes of greatest loss for her came from the top side. For years she was accustomed to fighting back after fighting back, her actions based on the actions of others as the agent of chaos she represents. But now this loss [Isha] didn't come from anyone, there's nothing to fight back. That's why she feels empty. In this scene she is completely exposed, with no defenses, nothing. It's Jinx in its purest essence. It's where she's finally aware of what she's done and who she really is [but no perspective of future]. And that, for someone who spent years with a clouded mind, is pure hell.
Both are exhausted. They both don't even have the strength to hate each other. This is where they decide to break the cycle.
@@mayaraqueiroz1849It's sick how people justify Jinx who is a sadistic mass murder with a genocidal Streak who just stoped because someone she cared about got dead. And try to vilify Catlyn who was chasing a terrorist while prevetenting a war (who Jinx was causing) they forget Catlyn opted For chasing Jinx as alternative of the full war others wanted. While Cait was angry and admits didn't acted Well, dosen't compare to Jinx actions.
the realisation that they took not just her boots and long sleeves, they even took the X string of her vest.
I just wish we got a better circumstance for seeing jinx with her hair down. Still,this was a nice scene.
0:28 AGHH I FEEL THE PAIN
the comment section shows how important media literacy is like I swear some of yall watching the show with your eyes closed Lol!
Literally I don't get why yall arguing about whether cait or jinx is better when they were made to be parallels and the whole theme of their story is the cycle of violence and learning to break the cycle. Season 1 ep 9's title "the monster you created" refers to both of them. Jinx is the monster Vi/piltover created, and Cait is the monster Jinx created. Cait also said at the end that none of them can erase their mistakes. Thankfully at the end here we see that both of them have learned to put down their hatred and "break the cycle".
The way some of yall sound "ohh the enforcers killed jinx's parents so cait deserves to have her parents killed since she's an enforcer" etc. etc. literally missing the whole point of their story and thats why both jinx and cait are better than all you dumbasses who would only be the ones continuing this cycle if you were in universe lmao
Amen!!
It's like everyone here are intellectual lilliputians. It just soared right over their heads!
@@Anansi1701 such a shame the fandom is so "fandom"ized because i know the show can be used in a films studies class for analysis
@@ksalfkdsg agreed. With every frame having care put into it, there's a plethora of studies that can be had from this work of art.
It is because Topside is the prepetuator, it matters who started a conflict, a war, Zaunites become monsters due to Piltover's opression first, then they take it out on Piltover, Caitlyn and Jinx are nothing alike at all,
It is like a narcissistic abusive person abusing someone else, a family member perhaps, over years, and only when after years of pain and trauma and domestic abuse, that victim lashes back at it's opressor, suddenly that same opressor acts aghast and shocked and self-righteous and conisders itself the victim and gaslights it's victim into oblivion, making them to appear as the monster, this is unfathomobly toxic and abusive and exploitive,
and Caitlyn and Jinx's dynamic reminds people of this dynamic. I mean those who take Jinx's side, not those who take Caitlyn's obviously.
In this scene Caitlyn hates herself not because she feels guilty for not killing Jinx in ep 9 of s1, it's not like that, I feel there is a deeper meaning which is that Caitlyn hated herself for the bad things she did because of her hatred for Jinx. (I mean her hatred for Jinx made her do bad things and because she did those things she hated herself). So now she decided to let go of her anger and forgive Jinx. Not only for herself, but she also let go of her hatred for Jinx in favor of her love for Vi as well.
And this scene showed us that there is no apology at all I don't know why some people say that Jinx apologized she didn't apologize but admitted her mistake and Cait did the same thing (neither of them apologized, and there was no need to. They admitted that they made mistakes and can't undo them, but the cycle of violence and hatred has to end)
That's the meaning of this scene, at least for me
Jinx started feeling the guilt of killing Cait's mom the minute she saw her willing to help Vi to save Vander, in that very moment She realised how muck Cait cares for Vi and how she's willing to let go of her revenge for Vi's sake. Cait loves Vi more than she hates Jinx, and I love how they are both owning up to their mistakes in this scene. I really hope we'll get to see more of these characters in other spinoff shows, Ekko and Mel too, I don't know anything about League of legends but I'm hoping there are other storylines including all these characters
She looks like Ophelia with her hair down. A beautiful woman driven into madness by tragic circumstances that would eventually lead her to her suicide.
She had lost all hope for living 💔 But I think she's alive. Surely the creators don't want their moat famous character to die if they want us to watch future projects right 😅😢
It breaks my heart seeing jinx like this. I thought she’d be vengeful but she actually became depressed and suicidal. She can’t catch a break. Off topic but the girl singing sounds like a mix of Billie Eilish and Melanie Martinez
Jinx looked so dead inside :(
I had such a visceral reaction to Jinx picking her nails like that. It was so small but so ponient.
this Tangled remake is super dark
omg it was so hard to focus on this scene because her digging into her fingers freaked me out
Jinx actually showing and dealing with remorse….losing Isha must have really given her perspective what it’s like to lose something, taken from you, instead of being the one to take 😢
Are you serious? Jinx had lost both her parents when she was like 5-6, then lost her family (brothers, Sister and father) again when she was 10-11, then she lost her father again in s1(Silco), i'm pretty sure Jinx knows better than anyone what it is like to loose something, Caitlyn can't even comprehend.
@@Blaidd1298Isha was Jinx’s fault. The writers have said that already. She knows what it is to lose someone. She doesn’t know, or at least she didn’t, know what it was like to be the one at fault with no one to blame but herself for it.
I feel sad for her baby rn 😭
Jinx's hair down omg 😱
this is just a sad fucking show.
Poor Jinx, girl has been thru too much😢
Oh yeah, let’s not ask the poor families of the people she killed.
This is not Jinx talking to Caitlyn but Powder
No, Powder died the moment Isha was gone. That was the last bit of Powder in Jinx
Doeu tanto vê a jinx desmoronar nesses últimos episódios 😐🥺🖤, esperei a chegada de um momento em que ela tpoderia alcançar a paz
I think Jinx was so sad because of isha death
If only Jinx knew what would happen in this very cell 20 minutes later...
i mean she did just say to vi as she left "you deserve to be with her" sOOooO
‘Every sentient being possesses the capacity for change’
Did anyone else notice what nail she was stabbing it was her blue nail which represents powder and it was jinx stabbing powder please tell me I’m not the only one who noticed 😅😮
This reminds me of those Saint Agnes in Prison paintings.
Small detail but notice how Cait brought Jinx decent food. I think better than what Vi had in prison. On the first season, Vi asked Cait if she knew what the prison food was like when they were in the market. I think it's kinda thoughtful that Cait is now making a little difference with Jinx knowing Vi had to go through shit before.
Ellie and Abby, but good
If Vi created the "monster" in Jinx, Jinx created the "monster" in Caitlyn
This whole time we literally had two sides of a nation fight over a baddie with red hair because of her good heart and how it posed as the key for revolution in "Breaking the Cycle" and a positive new start
Not only that but Vi had the influence of bringing a sense of peace, justice and belonging to both women of opposing sides that are also two sides of the same coin
both misfits/overlooked, gun experts, grieved by the death of loved ones, conflicted with their mistakes that put their loved ones in danger/pushed them away . . . ugh
I can pet this jinx everyday
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Imagine losing the opportunity to watch the best show ever!
Depends if u wanna be depressed or not.
Hell yeah
I thought the same thing a week ago but now I watched it I regret not watching it sooner
I know she want to killed her but that still won't bring her mother back.
And Cait knows that. This scene was her letting go of her hate for Jinx.
No she now knows that Jinx is hurting just the way she is
@@LintuWaterfall-ey9xo this is where she begins to let go, but it takes until the last scene with her to actually do so. I like that it's a process, not done in a single moment.
and Vi did it with Caitlyn in the most unsanitary part of Piltover. Nice job.
Poor jinx..
Jinx kill 20 people
People in comments: she’s just broken it’s ok. We love you Jiiiinx❤❤❤
Caitlyn kill nobody
People in comments: OMG she’s fkin MONSTER
😂😂😂
Brainless
Just 20? I think her killing count are in three digits easily.
Jinx kills a dozen enforcers and and a handful of council members who are her oppressors and have orphaned her when she was 5-6:
OMG TERRORIST HAVE HER AT THE GALLOWS, UNFORGIVABLE.
Caitlyn after gassing an entire city, causing god knows how many people to fall ill and potentionally die, start a war, invading an already opressed and broken and repressed City(by her family and mother), possibly resulting in countless deaths from both sides, and countless people being beaten and tortured, and majority of the all the victims of the aforementioned being civilians, including children:
Ofcourse totally justifiable makes total sense nothing wrong here Caitlyn had every right to do all that she is better than everyone.
@@xCoatlicuex I said it figuratively
@@xCoatlicuex I said I’d figuratively
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She looks so cute
This is depressing broken Jinx. This is like the third or fourth time. Someone very close to her and ends up gone.
I don't blame her from this episode and I sure as hell don't blame her from the next one I know what that's like cuz I lived it.
Witch ep is it? I haven't watched yet😢
New ones that were released last night
What exactly did she want from her? Like if she’s not getting a trial
"Please get out of the corner, eat something, and maybe we can figure something out."
I think she herself wasnt sure about that. came in to confront the criminal, but saw the broken girl.
And i think part of her knew that was what she would find (based on how she talked to Vi previously)
She basically came to tell her she cant hate her anymore, despite everything.
She made Jinx into a demon in her head, embodying everything wrong with the world, but after Isha's death that image shattered.
Once you feel loss, you can empathize.
I have felt loss and That's Why I dislike Jinx reactions.
Caitlyn didn't empathize with Jinx or Vi's loss of parents. She was only hurt when she experienced losing her own parent
@@xCoatlicuex You have not felt being stepped on by boots your whole life and not allowed to fight back. If you think about it, Jinx has only unalived people who deserved it.
@ no she didn’t. She even killed Ekko’s friends and people of Zaun.
How the hell does Caitlyn have the balls to say "no amount of good deeds can undo our crimes" with the shit she pulled on Zaun?
That's why she said "our crimes". She's also acknowledging her own bad choices. I felt like she was saying that more to herself than to Jinx.
"Our crimes"
as a colombian, is very funny to hear foreigners pacifist reactions to scenes like this. like
HOLY SHT SHE USED CHEMICAL WARFARE?
and im like:
why hasnt the army tried this against the guerrillas? like its been 70 years come on finish the war for fcks sake.
Have you listened to the video
@@jackal-se9hrright? It a war.
I still can’t believe jinx dead at the end whyyyyyyyyyy😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
She`s not dead. Watch it again.
Because stories have to end, and in the case of a redemption arc, you've used up everything you had with the character. part of why we love Jinx, is that the writers didn't hold back with her-but that comes with a price, and the price is a short life.
@@TinyGreyOwl It is an open ending. you can believe she survived or take the scene at face value and accept her death
@@BlastFromThePastTheGoodOldDays This show is very meticulous at every detail so I wouldn`t call that ending "open". But anyways, everybody believes at what they want.
@@TinyGreyOwl you are the one saying she is not dead, even though the episode suggests she is dead.
this universes jinx died, but people try and find hints and theories to suggest she didn't. so maybe it is an open ending, believe what you want---that is what an open ending is. no definitive answer one way or the other
It's interesting how Jinx is that character who divides opinions, just as she could just be labeled a murderer, we need to take into account the place where she lived, which was rotten in itself, the fact that she didn't even receive good things since she was young, counting on the death of Cat's mother and others, just as we see Cat as the one who is on the right and correct side when Pitolver has his rotten side, also a really well-written character, but I still defend her because her case is the same as a child never being exposed to love since she was little, doing stupid things and being considered a mistake.
Caitlyn can't act all Righteous . Know one has right Act righteous in arcane .
tbh fair apart from ekko
I don't think she acted self righteous, notice how she said "our crimes" instead of "your crimes" when talking about what happened?
This is why you lost the election. All these purity tests don't work in the real world. You just make it easy for evil to win.
She Isn't acting righteous is admiting her crimes but she has every reason as any other Piltover and several Zaunites of hate Jinx for all the crimes she has done and the pain she has caused.
@@xCoatlicuexso you are gonna act like Jinx isn't in pain too?🤔
Jinx is a villain?
Bruh, Jinx has always been a villian, have you not seen season 1? if yes then your stupid to not think she's a villian
Yes
@ why?
@@jeanmatos5601
She was a killer for Silco, implied to have killed entire families. She destroyed the council after she herself shot Silco, who definitely wanted to kill Vi and have Jinx kill her new friend and love interest.
@@jeanmatos5601she kills people, kidnaps, commits war crimes, forced her sister into choosing her or Cait. She isn't entirely evil but she's not entirely good either.
I though Jinx would have at least apologized.
1:07 THAT is her apology
@@until.davis. That didn't really sound like it to me but sure i guess. Sounds like she definitely acknowledged what she did though.
@@MsCathyParker the words “i’m sorry” don’t have to be said for it to be classed as an apology
she acknowledged what she did AND apologised
@@until.davis.She clearly stated that she would have shoot anyway, so it's not an apology.
@@xCoatlicuexshe is talking about her past self. Her past sekf wpuld do it anyway. Present jinx wouldnt
This couldve been the perfect show but the final two episodes proved the writers were mortal.
OK?
Right, rest of the series is 11/10 while last two episodes are 7-8/10, still good, but not on par with the rest
Cait saying "I've hated myself..." And "no amount of good deeds can undo our crimes !" really shows how much she blames herself for what she did, all the pain she caused while she was trying to get her revenge. Now that she has Jinx in front of her, she decides to let her go and forgive her 🥰
the second i finished the first season, i remember thinking two main things:
1. caitlyn has every right to have revenge
2. but if there's anyone who could have the heart to forgive jinx, its caitlyn (insert caitlyn being an actual sweetheart to everyone in the first season like her hugging huck bro)
И больше всех Я бы хотел бы всех свою семью спасти как Дэдпул Росомаха не заниматьсясексомайвиВульфКонстантина. Потому что я знаю что она Волк любовь и она моя родная и она Росомаха волк. И Мстители 6 секретных воина тоже его я занимался любовь и даже занимался бы даже когда кто-то спит тоже и в своей комнате где умер Я даже хотела мечеть её обнять сказать ей Спасибо богу за такой подарок на свете и дети свиньи всё-всё-всё намаз делать и принимать мусульманство Вера. Попроси Бога прощения за всё за все грехи Проклятие всё виноват и всё такое Я бы хотел вернуться из вернуться в как ворон как сильно пожалуйста пожалуйста Я не хочу жить в аду или в раю пожалуйста или в даже не хочу пожалуйста. . Что Аллах не простит меня и пусть у меня накажет я заслуживаю это наказание Я и моя мама тоже тебя принимает очень Я не хочу ответить перед судом мне страшно даже. Всё что я сказал тебе прощай навсегда..
and this was the scene that got vi in the mood like wtf did they do to this masterpiece?
I think it's just that Vi sucks as a person, also their relationship is politically infused and that is a curse for writing, i knew from the start that Caitlyn and Vi's story is going to suck and not be on par with the rest of story, just for sole reason that it is Lgbt
@@Blaidd1298 100% agree
Did you actually watch the full scene?
@Blaidd1298 Exactly they only made that scene for the fan base we didn't have to see it or maybe do it at the end it just felt off jinx telling vi I'm gonna kill myself and vi 20 min later being horny like wtf
Vi was literally responding to the fact that Cait just told her that she literally ordered the guards away because she knew that Vi would go there to break Jinx out of her cell
Cait deliberately facilitated Jinx going free, based entirely off of the trust she has in Vi, that's a huge statement to someone who just got done saying she lost everyone.
Caitlin have no right to be above....
She is not, but she has every right to hate Jinx.
@@xCoatlicuex but she doesnt want to anymore. not because she ddoesnt have reason to hate her, but because she has reason(s) not to. she knows she is a victim too.
@@xCoatlicuexso does Jinx have a right to hate her for what she represents?
@@basilhenry-eyo6522 right? yes. desire? no.
they are both so done with it all. they just want the suffering to end.
Caitlyn you really need shut up because act same way she did. You almost kill kids. She lucky jinx never went crazy on her
And Jinx *killed* kids. Yet you defend her.
@pokerface4396 dude shut hell up. Jinx not kill kids you defend caitlyn almost kill kids so what the hell you talking about. You have no business to talk. About jinx
@pokerface4396 you think jinx villains. She not Stop judging her. move on
@@charlesharry7901 She is a villain. Stop defending her because of her cute face
@pokerface4396 dude shut your dumbass up. Jinx change because isha so Stop Judging her. Stop Defending caitlyn. Caitlyn did bad stuff too.
Last two episodes were trash makes episode 6 completely redundant
how were they trash moron
facts bro jinx's death is so fcking stupid
They weren’t trash
It's like they forgot the entire series before it. If you took Vi and Jinx out of the last two episodes it wouldn't even make a difference, and that's disappointing as fuck. They should have resolved the plot with Ambessa, as well as Vi, Jinx, and Vander/Warwick. Then had machine Jesus Viktor be a tease for the next show.
@@setsuna380 I'm confused.... How exactly? Like I'm being genuine 😭
Once a fascist always a fascist
What?
@ you know
If you're a westerner, you wouldn't recognize fascism even if it slapped you in the face. Don't embarrass yourself.
Huh?
SOME people can change. SOME people can learn to be better. Some can realize what they're doing is wrong. If you truly believe in rehabilitative justice then YOU NEED to extend your hand that way as well. Otherwise you just leave them to be re-radicalized with greater hatred towards YOU and by extension us. Safe travels friend. o7
The writers are trying so hard to make Jinx the evil bad guy even tho she is a terrorist. So insane,.
Her absolutely just giving up on life is heart breaking to see god she was never meant to be this unhappy and pained… I’d give anything to see her happy again☹️🩵