Is Victoria 3 Good Now?

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
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  • @iSorrowproductions
    @iSorrowproductions  10 месяцев назад +309

    So what do you think of the new update? play.victoria3game.com/ISP

  • @ProwerTheFox7
    @ProwerTheFox7 10 месяцев назад +5262

    Honestly props to PDX, takes a lot of balls to sponsor a creator and let them share their actual opinion

    • @khankhomrad8855
      @khankhomrad8855 10 месяцев назад +196

      Curious how it wasn't too long ago that PDX stoped giving ISP early access and sponsoring him to cover their products. It has been what? One year since they cahnged their policy towards ISP?

    • @Tzoga-gn3ci
      @Tzoga-gn3ci 10 месяцев назад +238

      He hearted the comment that means he reads the comments, that means he will read about the rat

    • @miguelpadeiro762
      @miguelpadeiro762 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@khankhomrad8855Let's not pretend like they have board meetings in Stockholm HQ on the matter of whether or not they should sponsor ISP

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 10 месяцев назад +4

      E‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎

    • @NubDiePie
      @NubDiePie 10 месяцев назад +52

      It requires a lot of hearts of iron from PDX to let that happen

  • @bokunogentoo4420
    @bokunogentoo4420 10 месяцев назад +1887

    glad to see the old game's influence reflecting on this game, such as having to wait multiple years for it to become good

    • @judsonbox9845
      @judsonbox9845 10 месяцев назад +268

      the sacred and blessed paradox cycle

    • @-elrean
      @-elrean 10 месяцев назад +1

      amen

    • @CatroiOz
      @CatroiOz 10 месяцев назад +85

      I really dislike this false narrative that's been spreading around by fanboys to try and cope with the fact that recent releases have been garbage. Victoria 2 was a straight improvement over Victoria 1, did it get better ? Yes but Victoria 3 is nowhere near as good. Same with vanilla CK2 being better in every way to CK1 and yet, 3 years after it came out CK3 still doesn't have as much content as CK2 and what's there is so bare bones it's infuriating.

    • @ballisticwaffles
      @ballisticwaffles 10 месяцев назад +119

      @@CatroiOz "Everyone I disagree with is a fanboy" - a child's guide to how opinions work.

    • @FlawlessFlaw
      @FlawlessFlaw 10 месяцев назад +56

      @@ballisticwaffles He's right though.

  • @SuperExplosivegames
    @SuperExplosivegames 10 месяцев назад +187

    Emperor Norton Approaches Susan B Anthony in a smokey California bar... "You could vote if I was in charge. Stick with me sweetheart"

  • @OrsonFellstone
    @OrsonFellstone 10 месяцев назад +1684

    This does make me curious if you would do your next PDX mega campaign using Victoria II or Victoria 3.

    • @JamesJamesW
      @JamesJamesW 10 месяцев назад +272

      Depends on the state of EU4 to Vic3 conversion mods. Can't imagine they're very stable rn

    • @dpamer1020
      @dpamer1020 10 месяцев назад +70

      I would like to see him doing mega campaigns on Victoria 3 because something different always happens

    • @goldenhate6649
      @goldenhate6649 10 месяцев назад +52

      Honestly, I am shocked germany didn’t form. All my recent games it did. Or at least the north german confed. Its so easy for the ai to do it.

    • @HistoricalFanatics
      @HistoricalFanatics 10 месяцев назад +54

      Victoria 2 is probably more interesting

    • @pendantairplane
      @pendantairplane 10 месяцев назад +64

      @@HistoricalFanaticsNah. Maybe with mods, but base Victoria 2 is pretty dull at least from my experience. The only thing I’d say Victoria 2 has over 3 besides diplomacy and the military (which is still arguable since managing Victoria 2 armies becomes extremely tedious at times) is events and flavor, which isn’t really that relevant in a mega campaign. IMO seeing the AI mess around with the internal political systems and economies would be more interesting than Victoria 2, which has already done by ISP several times

  • @dominusvenatus9300
    @dominusvenatus9300 10 месяцев назад +918

    give us the rat, either you or braun, i know he can sneak it in

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 10 месяцев назад

      ‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎E

    • @NiskaMagnusson
      @NiskaMagnusson 10 месяцев назад +26

      finding subtle places to hide it in the video would probably keep people watching too lol

    • @gaboreszes4395
      @gaboreszes4395 10 месяцев назад +1

      No

    • @stryke5729
      @stryke5729 10 месяцев назад +12

      You guys just haven’t noticed the hidden rat

    • @stepgames7698
      @stepgames7698 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@stryke5729 What do you mean. THE RAT IS HIDDEN SOMEWHERE? WHERE? TELL ME

  • @SİKPARTİ1923
    @SİKPARTİ1923 10 месяцев назад +656

    Isp, We demand the rat.
    Sincerely,
    Gravy Timmys

    • @andorraball1253
      @andorraball1253 10 месяцев назад +1

      yes

    • @leonoraekaterina5838
      @leonoraekaterina5838 10 месяцев назад +8

      As a gravy timmy myself, I put down agreements 😌

    • @omgwind5217
      @omgwind5217 10 месяцев назад +1

      I must be the only one to find that disgusting

    • @Merugaf
      @Merugaf 10 месяцев назад +4

      I didn't spend 5 years covered in gravy just to not get the R A T
      -Gravy Timmy formerly known as gravy baby

    • @jonahrodriguez387
      @jonahrodriguez387 10 месяцев назад

      Give me the rat
      -Gravy Timothy

  • @Ali-gg6ce
    @Ali-gg6ce 10 месяцев назад +271

    I really hope they work on geopolitics and wacky alliances too. Once I was at war with the UK and also fighting allied with the UK. Or how overlord countries can side with the enemy even though you are part of their costum union.

    • @jodinha4225
      @jodinha4225 10 месяцев назад +10

      I mean these all make perfect sense....

    • @thehappypotato6610
      @thehappypotato6610 10 месяцев назад +13

      Next dlc is supposed to be focused around diplomacy and puppet states I believe

    • @Ali-gg6ce
      @Ali-gg6ce 10 месяцев назад +28

      @@jodinha4225 yes. Very much sense. Fighting against the UK in the Middle East front and helping the UK to fight the Indian revolt because I had an obligation.

    • @maxstirner6143
      @maxstirner6143 10 месяцев назад +1

      The British war stuff is already fixed

    • @eduardochiscuet3146
      @eduardochiscuet3146 10 месяцев назад +3

      Look Up the Biafra war

  • @huni1939
    @huni1939 10 месяцев назад +194

    Germany unifying in Vic3 is rarer than Paradox having free downloadable content

    • @CausticSpace
      @CausticSpace 10 месяцев назад +8

      This update is literally free

    • @maximilianodelrio
      @maximilianodelrio 10 месяцев назад +21

      ​@@CausticSpaceas all updates should always be

    • @CausticSpace
      @CausticSpace 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@maximilianodelrio they are

    • @maximilianodelrio
      @maximilianodelrio 10 месяцев назад +11

      @@CausticSpace but not paradox, who usually just cuts content from base game leaving it barely functional and then charging for those new features that should have been there from the beginning

    • @CausticSpace
      @CausticSpace 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@maximilianodelrio can you give an example of that happening since CK3 came out?

  • @MrTrool323
    @MrTrool323 10 месяцев назад +293

    Oh i have an idea....
    *Artillery Only in Vic3*

    • @unknown-pr2ju
      @unknown-pr2ju 10 месяцев назад +2

      No

    • @i-kun_yeetpain
      @i-kun_yeetpain 10 месяцев назад +27

      YES.

    • @Glumpsy
      @Glumpsy 10 месяцев назад +3

      *OH GOD YES*

    • @foreng3095
      @foreng3095 10 месяцев назад +11

      Unfortunately it has a thing like EU4 does where you have to have at least as much infantry as you have artillery and cavalry combined or you suffer major debuffs.

    • @MrTrool323
      @MrTrool323 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@foreng3095 Oh...that sucks

  • @KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva
    @KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva 10 месяцев назад +840

    I feel weird about Vicky 3. I haven't bought it because it still doesn't look better than modded Vicky 2 but I want it to succeed long enough that maybe by next year it will be good enough.
    The ominous thing is that I had the same feeling about Imperator.

    • @itzgladgatorgonegladitzmad9701
      @itzgladgatorgonegladitzmad9701 10 месяцев назад +223

      It has a larger player base than Imperator and has been improving since release. The players have even said that Victoria 3 is improving and is becoming more enjoyable. The last big areas to fix are trade, the military system, and adding the spheres of influence mechanic that has already been shown off and is being developed. Given a year or 2 I don’t doubt Victoria 3 could become a very good game.

    • @barca227bc3
      @barca227bc3 10 месяцев назад +49

      I still play imperator. I love the time period.

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@itzgladgatorgonegladitzmad9701
      Victoria 2 has twice the amount of players than Imperator does, its not much of a figure to go by, Vicky 3 is one of the worst releases in recent memory, it cost quite a penny to develop and has been in development for many years, Imperator was a mere drop in the ocean by comparison.
      PDX literally lost millions from their botched Vic3 release and huge parts of that was the change in Corporate pushed by the shareholders, almost all the guys who made Vicy2 left PDX and went doing something better in their life, because working at PDX was becoming impossible, the upper echelons just want to listen to their own opinion and they are world masters of everything, well we see people who think they know it all fail over and over again, its pathetic.
      Vicy3 is gonna perish, its just a matter of time, no amount of DLC's can save that game.
      The only reason HoI4 survives is the huge amount of mods it piggy backs on, and EUIV is a very specific genre that a lot of people love dearly not to mention the monstrosity of DLC's they poured into it.

    • @CallMeBasil
      @CallMeBasil 10 месяцев назад +1

      Why not play modded Vicky 3, then?

    • @threedimensionsapart
      @threedimensionsapart 10 месяцев назад

      @valeriolibratti9643its fun for me i love the economics

  • @Aug__
    @Aug__ 10 месяцев назад +699

    That army system they had before was by far the stupidest idea Paradox has ever had

    • @Aug__
      @Aug__ 10 месяцев назад +230

      Honestly, looking at it now it's still bad

    • @goldenhate6649
      @goldenhate6649 10 месяцев назад +128

      It plays much better now. Army quality also matters so much more now. Not saying its great, but it feels more like hoi4. I kinda don’t like that feel because grand battle plans like that didn’t develop until trench warfare, but oh well.

    • @unknown-pr2ju
      @unknown-pr2ju 10 месяцев назад +16

      I do admit the new system is better for actual war but honestly I liked the simplicity of it all well not the fronts but before each barrack had to be one specific thing in your unit

    • @evilemuempire9550
      @evilemuempire9550 10 месяцев назад +47

      It’s weird that they took out most of the system most of their players buy PDX games for. EU4, CK2, HOI4 all have the economy essentially as a support for the army. The economy in those games is mostly something to focus on in downtime and then let it take a backseat when you’re fighting/blobbing.

    • @abdulpadela4738
      @abdulpadela4738 10 месяцев назад +103

      Nah victoria 2’s unit systems were stupid and idiotic and I think the people who wanted it for Victoria 3 have Stockholm syndrome. I vastly prefer the current system over the “have your army chase 2 guys forever” system of Victoria 2

  • @Redcliffe_
    @Redcliffe_ 10 месяцев назад +515

    You know what's better than Victoria 3? THE RAT

    • @Sarahbryson321
      @Sarahbryson321 10 месяцев назад +4

      Yes

    • @cokoctepannx5864
      @cokoctepannx5864 10 месяцев назад +18

      GIVE US THE RAT GIVES US THE RAT

    • @Nvirr
      @Nvirr 10 месяцев назад

      🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀

    • @cristianosantos4341
      @cristianosantos4341 10 месяцев назад +2

      Give use the Rat or I will eat your Dino Nuggets

    • @josephtang846
      @josephtang846 10 месяцев назад +8

      What is the RAT?

  • @carpfisher46
    @carpfisher46 10 месяцев назад +327

    I think if it wasn’t called Victoria 3 the reception to the game would have been different. It doesn’t feel like a sequel to Victoria 2

    • @theninjabird9510
      @theninjabird9510 10 месяцев назад +5

      So true king

    • @miguelpadeiro762
      @miguelpadeiro762 10 месяцев назад +96

      Eh, to me it does
      I think the problem here is that there was such a big time gap between each installment
      It's like if we got ck3 after ck1, they're so different.
      Launch date CK2 is almost incomparable with today's CK2 (Which in turn is very similar to ck3). In the same way, EU4 today is nowhere near what launch date EU4 was, but launch date EU4 brought much from EU3.
      The essence of vicky, a game of markets and goods in the coming age of imperialism and industrialization, is there. The problem is that some mechanics simply flopped, like how they decided to tackle military
      But vicky 2, we had two DLC and a huge hiatus filled with "Victoria 3 when" memes.

    • @RockNRollHorrorshow
      @RockNRollHorrorshow 10 месяцев назад

      @@miguelpadeiro762 The problem is too that they injected leftist political thought deep into the game from the start..

    • @paradoxcr522
      @paradoxcr522 10 месяцев назад +71

      ​@@miguelpadeiro762 It really isnt. In Victoria 2 you play as the upper crust of the government. The more liberal a country got the less control you would have over it. You played to placate your population as you dealt with them becoming more intelligent. Oh yeah the population was actually important. TLDR, you are working at the top of the piramid and you are working down
      In vic 3 you play the entire country and economy. You create companies. You choose what laws the people want to pass. You build the education centers and basic production buildings. Pops just have the sole role of filling jobs. They don't matter. Agitators matter which is another thing you choose. TLDR you are the pryamid.

    • @shaddaboop7998
      @shaddaboop7998 10 месяцев назад +25

      Not sure where you're getting this from. The devs made a lot of really poor gameplay decisions and released a half-finished game. A lot of the ideas were either underdeveloped or were simply terrible and I'm still scratching my head to this day as to how a well regarded professional game studio could be so totally deaf to its own player base. They're gradually getting it on track having abandoned a lot of the truly awful ideas they spent a lot of energy defending before and immediately after release.
      Put simply Victoria 3 was for many people a subjectively bad game but it was deeply flawed on a lot levels objectively too. The negative reaction had little to do with the reputation it has to live up to. PDX really let people down here.

  • @charlieemhardt4772
    @charlieemhardt4772 10 месяцев назад +44

    If it's possible I'd love to see a system similar to hoi4 where before the game starts you can tell the AI to either behave historically or not

  • @HonestShell
    @HonestShell 10 месяцев назад +96

    I think the vanilla experience of vicky3 is still long way to becoming great but Victoria tweaks mod from One Proud Bavarian makes the game better so maybe check the game with the mod later

  • @ejwwilson2481
    @ejwwilson2481 10 месяцев назад +7

    For nostalgia November, give us Vicky 2

  • @anti-spiral159
    @anti-spiral159 10 месяцев назад +24

    ISP can make watching paint dry fun, props to him

  • @Silverfishv9
    @Silverfishv9 10 месяцев назад +4

    I do love that the event for "At the Mountains of Madness" popped up and was just clicked away mid-sentence as though it was an entirely normal occurrence.

  • @jedell
    @jedell 10 месяцев назад +5

    Now I want to get the game just to make Edward Norton the emperor. I’m glad they referenced it

  • @hillarytrump3157
    @hillarytrump3157 10 месяцев назад +6

    I love how isp just skipped over the “At The Mountains of Madness” H. p. Lovecraft event lmao
    Very cool

  • @ethaneryk
    @ethaneryk 10 месяцев назад +41

    I agree with your take. I put up with all the issues that came with it at release but now instead of putting up with things I'm enjoying the game a lot more. Still work to be done but so promising that progress is being made

  • @Legohunter-uv1wc
    @Legohunter-uv1wc 8 месяцев назад +3

    Using this video to study for my AP world test about industrialisation and the expansion of imperialism

  • @DigitalZiggurat
    @DigitalZiggurat 10 месяцев назад +3

    I've been watching your channel for years ISP, and I'd love to see you do more (any) Victoria 3 content.

    • @vxrw
      @vxrw 10 месяцев назад

      More vic3 and more rat

  • @nacelnikprosiak1260
    @nacelnikprosiak1260 10 месяцев назад +114

    Wait so it took Paradox entire year to create unit models so that you can see your army?

    • @therealoldnosey8689
      @therealoldnosey8689 10 месяцев назад +7

      I came here to comment this

    • @TheGamegurusChannel
      @TheGamegurusChannel 10 месяцев назад +17

      They really only started working on armies in like, August. There's been a shitload of improvements

  • @thoalis4325
    @thoalis4325 10 месяцев назад +3

    Victoria 3: the sequel where the free market isn't automated, but being the commander in chief is automated.

  • @mithkabob
    @mithkabob 10 месяцев назад +87

    I actually liked the game at release and a few patches after it got pretty good for me, but I know I'm in the minority there and was also messing around with my own mods to fix some of the issues myself.
    I've been a way from it for a while, excited to see the new progress.

    • @kapibarek4897
      @kapibarek4897 10 месяцев назад

      Me and a lot of my friends like the game too since its release. We haven't play vic2 tho

  • @btd0ja
    @btd0ja 10 месяцев назад +76

    I enjoyed Vic 3 from launch but this update definitely makes it more fun. Sadly it also made it a bit less stable on Steam Deck, but hopefully that improves over time too

    • @taco8951
      @taco8951 10 месяцев назад +2

      Honestly it seems less stable in general so far. Been getting a lot more late game lag spikes than usual

  • @AroyalMcWiener
    @AroyalMcWiener 10 месяцев назад +28

    I think the best way to enjoy it, for me atleast, is to not minmax. I just go with the flow and maybe not fully rollplay, but just try to mkae choises that seem fun or that make sense.

  • @munchlax633
    @munchlax633 10 месяцев назад +1

    Paradox has Protected Speech enacted

  • @StationaryGamingReal
    @StationaryGamingReal 10 месяцев назад +7

    I wanna see Spudgun's take on new Paraslop.

    • @Hugebull
      @Hugebull 10 месяцев назад +4

      Zero improvements have been made, so why would his take be any different now from what it was?

    • @youtuberobbedmeofmyname
      @youtuberobbedmeofmyname 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Hugebull He still has the same take he said so on a stream briefly. He isn't talking about vic 3 all the time but vic 3 players think he is taking about them personally constantly. fanboys are really weird.

    • @StationaryGamingReal
      @StationaryGamingReal 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@Hugebull Because I like to listen to him talk. He could talk about slop drying and I would listen. : )

    • @StationaryGamingReal
      @StationaryGamingReal 10 месяцев назад

      @@youtuberobbedmeofmyname Fair enough.

    • @Hugebull
      @Hugebull 10 месяцев назад

      @@StationaryGamingReal Oh boy

  • @illykazicj798
    @illykazicj798 10 месяцев назад +2

    The toy soldier now is indeed moving!

  • @El_Lanf
    @El_Lanf 10 месяцев назад +5

    I've played it a lot ever since launch, and the latest patch does a lot of things great, especially warfare but I actually think the bread and butter of the game - the economy - is a little rough at the minute compared to the previous patches of 1.3 and 1.4. They need another balance sweep to get some of the late game buildings and production methods working properly. Tney've also got to streamline the UI especially as ISP says for military it takes far too many clicks and menus to get things done and lack of keyboard shortcuts to speed it up. Want to add field hospitals to your armies? Prior to the latest patch you just needed to change a production method on your barracks, it took about 4 clicks total. Now you've got to select every individual army, go to a tab for supplies, scroll to the bottom, expand another segment then click the field hospitals. They've got serious QOL to do for all this. All they need is a ctrl + click to apply to all armies.

  • @Indignation211
    @Indignation211 10 месяцев назад +24

    I am happy to see you give the game another chance after the updates.
    As a USA main I can confirm that once you complete the western expansion you dont really HAVE to conquer any more since at that point you have way more resources than you have people to work them. I typically go the diplomatic route and bring South America into my Customs Union for access to Rubber as well as to attract the European Heritage people living there to immigrate. Mexico tends to be fickle on whether they want to make up and be friends after the whole manifest destiny thing or even if they do they may just suddenly decide they want their states back, become Belligerent and leave the Customs Union.
    Also what is it about my play style that I pretty much never trigger the American Civil War yet just about everyone else does?

    • @Hikayuhuy
      @Hikayuhuy 10 месяцев назад +3

      How do you deal with the population in the west? The “populating the west” thing bring like 50 Dutch or Swedes every 5 years for me and no one is moving westward. 1.5.5 beta was too insane as I moved nearly 100 millions Hans Chinese to America, but now it’s way too slow.

    • @Indignation211
      @Indignation211 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@Hikayuhuy yeah apparently migration is bugged right now and it is slated to be buffed in a coming patch. I do remember California becoming my most populated state during beta but now my population grows at a snails pace under the same strategy, ill be lucky to hit 80 million population by 1936 at this rate whereas before I could hit 280 million (and thats without more conquest or importing tons of Chinese)

    • @tsdobbi
      @tsdobbi 10 месяцев назад +1

      Im on my first playthrough after a year. A problem with the US is the frontier colonization law. It took me FOREVER to get rid of that law and be able to colonize elsewhere.
      The thing is I don't think it fully works as intended. So its supposed to be you can only colonize on unciv territory that borders your territory. So I conquered territories from other countries in africa and south america and still couldn't colonize the unciv land that bordered them.

  • @bobcat_mike7619
    @bobcat_mike7619 10 месяцев назад +23

    If paradox announces a release date for anything, add another year or 2 and that’s the real one

  • @js500y9
    @js500y9 10 месяцев назад +1

    Glory to Norton the one true emperor! May his bridge be built!

  • @AlexDeLarge1
    @AlexDeLarge1 10 месяцев назад +4

    I got really into Victoria 3 for a while like last month after getting the DLC. I just spent the whole time trying to figure out the different ways I could screw over Imperial Russia AS Russia, like, intentionally governing really poorly so a bunch of revolts keep happening over and over, or have a secret vanguard Intelligentsia deep state guiding the Trade Unionists. It only happened once, but somehow I got both the Intelligentsia and Trade Unionists in government together with maximum legitimacy, but the Trade Unionists were the Communist Party, while the Intelligentsia just remained partyless the whole time, and they sat quietly back as the Trade Unionists, which were the biggest party by a vast majority, turned Russia into a free workers' paradise.

  • @joe96t24
    @joe96t24 8 месяцев назад +2

    Paradox, if you’re reading this, please just let me click on the toy soldier and right click where I want him to go.

  • @tranzilla213
    @tranzilla213 10 месяцев назад +1

    "The courts can eat my shorts, the house can eat my blouse, Peru can eat my shoe. I'm declaring myself emperor of these United States"
    - Emperor Norton, probably

  • @rakdar1714
    @rakdar1714 10 месяцев назад +3

    Imagine not playing Brazil in the Brazil update

  • @kdude1575
    @kdude1575 10 месяцев назад +1

    Emperor Norton's actually my ancestor, no joke. He was beloved by his people and fought diplomatically for them in the government, although he stated the government was illegitimate and that he was the true emperor, nobody's perfect.

  • @flirtyfloran3729
    @flirtyfloran3729 10 месяцев назад +3

    After years of waiting. Paradox has finally made the "make South America interesting" DLC. ISP, are you glad?

  • @predator931
    @predator931 10 месяцев назад +1

    I remember when games got released when they were actually finished

  • @RedScare90
    @RedScare90 10 месяцев назад +8

    I like when ISP play's stuff besides HOI4. Don't get me wrong he's fun to watch regardless. I'm sure it's a views or algorithm thing, but I wish he played other strategy games more. I miss crusader kings and total war and the occasional victoria or EU4

  • @chrisalex82
    @chrisalex82 6 месяцев назад +1

    On hoi4 ytb official they litterally made a short about how difficult it os to understand the game as a bigener
    Such chads in marketing

    • @LazzieMazzie
      @LazzieMazzie 6 месяцев назад

      me who learned the game within a week 🗿

  • @denniskylling3887
    @denniskylling3887 10 месяцев назад +10

    I personally didn't like vicky 3 at launch and haven't played it since but these improvements make it more appealing, also please do a video when the big dlc drops, since that would be great to see if anything else improved

  • @creeperminecraft294
    @creeperminecraft294 10 месяцев назад +13

    the passing law system is still weird if your not playing a democratic nation or any nation with voting as you still need to do it even with autocracy

    • @Speederzzz
      @Speederzzz 10 месяцев назад +12

      I guess it's supposed to simulate convincing the powerholders such as the army and landowners not to overthrow you, but its weird it still is basically the same just with different names

    • @tboicovas
      @tboicovas 10 месяцев назад +1

      Still better than not being able to pass laws period if you're an autocrat (like in vicky2)

  • @johnnicholas1657
    @johnnicholas1657 10 месяцев назад

    Nice video. Your initial video about Victoria and honesty was the main reason I followed and now find you my go to paradox creator

  • @pa_alia
    @pa_alia 10 месяцев назад +1

    That United Fruit Company logo is a modern satirical production btw, not the actual historical logo.

  • @dragonpug1452
    @dragonpug1452 10 месяцев назад +13

    please more Vicky content!!!

  • @Noremac_the_Negligible
    @Noremac_the_Negligible 9 месяцев назад +1

    I don’t play hoi4 but I’ve played vic2 and eu4 a good amount, I’d love more vic2 content

  • @Thunderstar7
    @Thunderstar7 10 месяцев назад +3

    I didnt realize paradox used the battle flag of the confederacy instead of their national flag until watching this and I always play independent Texas and watch the civil war from the outside 💀

  • @giorgosthoma849
    @giorgosthoma849 10 месяцев назад +1

    Good new we have a shepre of influnce dlc coming!

  • @melangalade
    @melangalade 10 месяцев назад +7

    *ISP not playing Vic3 for a year.*
    *Sponsored content*
    Hmmmmm I wonder did he change his mind about it

    • @squidlytv
      @squidlytv 10 месяцев назад +3

      Do you think he was never going to come back to the game?

  • @simonhagstenn
    @simonhagstenn 10 месяцев назад +1

    Bought it because you told me to and because you made it look fun! I will continue to watch out for updates on here

  • @pasghetti9427
    @pasghetti9427 10 месяцев назад +13

    I personally think this game was meant to be March of the Eagles 2, but they changed the title to get more money

  • @UpliftThrone76
    @UpliftThrone76 10 месяцев назад +1

    Ooo Vic 3, that's a new one on the channel. Day 26 of requesting ISP does his next mega campaign in West Africa!

  • @Tgungen
    @Tgungen 10 месяцев назад +13

    Truly amazing that Victoria 3 almost looks like a half finished game a full year after it's release

  • @therealoldnosey8689
    @therealoldnosey8689 10 месяцев назад +1

    The game is on track to be playable in 3 years

    • @loco4loco
      @loco4loco 10 месяцев назад +1

      No when half life 3 coems

  • @tyukan2000
    @tyukan2000 10 месяцев назад +3

    I'd like to see more Vicky 3 videos, but probably only whenever you feel like it's changed significantly from each of the last times you played it (even if that means once a year to even longer)

  • @donaldtrumplover2254
    @donaldtrumplover2254 10 месяцев назад +2

    Ye man my favorite part is when Africa is almost fully colonized by 1870 💀💀💀

  • @Elongated_Muskrat
    @Elongated_Muskrat 10 месяцев назад +5

    Does this mean a Vic2 video this month too? We need that Opium War fix!

  • @UnoThief
    @UnoThief 10 месяцев назад +2

    bad game, it denied the rightful emperor Norton his throne

  • @Nightmare78hAlo
    @Nightmare78hAlo 10 месяцев назад +19

    The 1 year of updating made it so much better, been enjoying my Brazil run so far a lot. I don't mind how much time you have to spend dealing with economics since that's kinda the main pillar of Vicky, would be like complaining about having to deal with personal intrigue in CK.
    What's nice to boot is, that all of the major reworks and additions are free, the two content DLCs it got the last 12 months they have are primarily flavor and journal/mission packs for either France (Voice of People) or Brazil plus rest of South America (Colossus of the south). So it doesn't feel like you need to drop 20 more bucks to get the actual improvements to the core and i hope that first proper expansion will do it similar where most or half of the crucial core improvements will be part of the free patch and not be gate locked behind the rather overpriced tag it has atm (30 euros). A side rant, that was really a shitty move making the main expansion DLCs in CK3 and Vicky 3 be that pricy and Ck3 has shown that the 10 euro price hike didn't really end up equaling to better content honestly, since HOI4 which still does 20 euro expansions is doing a better job at it but maybe Vicky 3's big expansion will be a please surprise as this 1.5 was.

    • @taco8951
      @taco8951 10 месяцев назад +1

      Im really glad they made one for Brazil because I've always like playing Brazil when playing Vic 2 and Vic 3. Having all this flavor and events makes them so much more interesting, even if the crisis at the beginning sucks somewhat.

    • @sirjmo
      @sirjmo 10 месяцев назад +3

      Basically they didn't feel like they could get away with milking this part of their fanbase or they'd have another imperator.
      Dead on arrival and killed by the first paid dlc.
      Hoi4 is still played by a lot of people despite the massive prices of the dlc.
      Was the first 100 bucks spent on a single paradox title more value or the last? I'm curious what you think, pick any of them.

    • @mikhailiagacesa3406
      @mikhailiagacesa3406 10 месяцев назад

      Since you guys play Brazil...How does the game handle the discovery of rubber and the British nicking seeds to plant in SE Asia? or does it?

    • @taco8951
      @taco8951 10 месяцев назад

      @@mikhailiagacesa3406 From what I saw. Discovering rubber starts an event train in Brazil where they can develop the Amazon up and actually change the debuffs the Amazon gives. Buffs immigration while lowering the debuffs on infrastructure and construction.

    • @Jehovahs_Thickness
      @Jehovahs_Thickness 10 месяцев назад +1

      Pdx fans really love their slop

  • @jojodelmotte
    @jojodelmotte 10 месяцев назад +2

    We want more vic 3

  • @AhanSalty
    @AhanSalty 10 месяцев назад +3

    It might be an interesting way of a nostalgia on itself if you redo the things you've done in your vic 2 videos, back in 2018 perhaps...

  • @DeezNuts-ju1rj
    @DeezNuts-ju1rj 10 месяцев назад +4

    that Joshua Norton guy? That's Emperor Norton, emperor of America and protector of Mexico, the only Emperor in American history, look him up, he's an interesting guy.

  • @AttiliotheHun
    @AttiliotheHun 10 месяцев назад +1

    I hope Vic3 is in the Mega Campaign this year! Extra flare at Imperator lol

  • @ahmetberkkuntasal4949
    @ahmetberkkuntasal4949 10 месяцев назад +5

    dont do this to me mr.sorrow i just bought vicky 2

  • @Radoniel
    @Radoniel 10 месяцев назад +1

    the autonomous build queue and reworked military makes the game playable, it looks so do-able now I might actually play it again

  • @mikhailiagacesa3406
    @mikhailiagacesa3406 10 месяцев назад +4

    The game will have to start reflecting war tech over time a lot more. The British go from the Brown Bess and horse messengers to Maxims and radio in the time alotted.

  • @Mr.Thunderer
    @Mr.Thunderer 10 месяцев назад

    I just realized, that I started to watch when your were making Victoria 2 videos mostly, I feel so old now💀💀💀

  • @omanerasdu
    @omanerasdu 10 месяцев назад +7

    I loved vic3 even on release, now I love it even more

    • @blobona4810
      @blobona4810 10 месяцев назад +2

      Glad I wasn’t alone in this

  • @voiceactorofdovakiin
    @voiceactorofdovakiin 10 месяцев назад +1

    I want to see Paradox sponsor Spudgun with the same offer hehehe. Bet they wouldnt dare.

  • @xonabyte
    @xonabyte 10 месяцев назад +5

    hi, WHERE IS THE RAT. BRING HIM BACK

  • @charmyzard
    @charmyzard 10 месяцев назад +2

    For anyone still on the fence about trying the game out: As of November 16th, 2023 (date of this video's upload) the game is on "free weekend" until the 20th on Steam.

  • @fellas.inc.
    @fellas.inc. 10 месяцев назад +6

    Timmy wants Rattius Fattius NOW father.

  • @ginger6048
    @ginger6048 10 месяцев назад +1

    VIC 3 we want OWB! day 5
    and the rat

  • @twofacecomix
    @twofacecomix 10 месяцев назад +20

    I do actually quite enjoy this game

  • @Bucket_Ball
    @Bucket_Ball 10 месяцев назад +3

    Nostalgia November and we still don't have the rat.

  • @CAmnK.Kalber
    @CAmnK.Kalber 2 месяца назад

    I’m really happy that paradox is a company that genuinely wants a honest report from a respected and smart creator and doesn’t mind if ISP says something constructive

  • @MisterDevel
    @MisterDevel 10 месяцев назад +3

    MY thoughts? I'm sick of these games that patch themselves into being partway competent and often release at beta quality. I won't be giving PDX props for not abandoning yet another project.

  • @dichebach
    @dichebach 10 месяцев назад +1

    Played it about 30 hours this weekend on the free weekend. I'm leaning toward buying.

  • @jimnicholas7334
    @jimnicholas7334 10 месяцев назад +6

    I've been watching a lot of Viki 2 YT content lately and coming back to Viki 3 I was struck by how plasticky and fake the map and all the visuals were. Yet the sound design for pushing buttons and stuff is way crisper and more impactful.

    • @obob6309
      @obob6309 10 месяцев назад +6

      I personally hate every single one of those sound effects.

  • @ItsSamHussey
    @ItsSamHussey 10 месяцев назад +1

    First Gravy Baby on the scene

  • @henrywilson2136
    @henrywilson2136 10 месяцев назад +7

    I still play it.

  • @154Kilroy
    @154Kilroy 10 месяцев назад +2

    Paradox: has a working, pretty flushed out system for war in the form of HOI4 and other games.
    Also, Paradox: Let's completely throw every aspect of that system and every other war system in all of our other games, then start completely from scratch for this game. And then tries polishing the turd instead of just implementing a better system.
    That being said, I haven't really stopped playing Vic 3 since it came out. I don't play it all the time, but I think it's a fun game. 300+ hours says that.
    It's just weird to me that they completely dumped out a system that works in favor of something much worse in every way. It could just be a simpler version of what's in Hoi without custom division template sizes. The frontline system and unit training are the main points I'm thinking of. A similar Naval system where there are actual ships to interact with would be better, too.

  • @FabioGCR
    @FabioGCR 10 месяцев назад +7

    Play with Brazil pls, we love you here!

  • @foggy9900
    @foggy9900 10 месяцев назад +1

    im just glad they didnt abandon it like imperator rome

  • @itriedtochangemynamebutitd5019
    @itriedtochangemynamebutitd5019 10 месяцев назад +17

    I don't know if Paradox can revive this game because it feels like they made the core game for a more casual audience (which doesn't play grand strategy for thousands of hours) so I think they have to completely replace and not just overhaul systems in the game. It would be nice if the game becomes good but I have doubts they can pull their audience to it.

    • @miguelpadeiro762
      @miguelpadeiro762 10 месяцев назад +5

      Definetly not a casual game, but really clunky mechanics at launch with some features completely overlooked
      The way they're handling economy and military updates though makes me think they know what they got wrong

    • @itriedtochangemynamebutitd5019
      @itriedtochangemynamebutitd5019 10 месяцев назад +6

      @miguelpadeiro762 Causal is definitely the wrong word, a better way to explain it would be going from Ultra-Hardcore players to just Hardcore players. I think they designed a game to be available to more players than just people who already play their games for Victoria 3. Paradox can definitely improve the game and they can update the mechanics of the game but for me I want to manually form and command military units like in Vic2 and HOI4 and EU4, and I don't know if Paradox is capable or willing to do that. But I would love to be wrong.

  • @myhvKun
    @myhvKun 10 месяцев назад +1

    You should do Victoria 3 A-Z.

  • @acatwithwiskers9273
    @acatwithwiskers9273 10 месяцев назад +3

    You see kids this is why you don't buy games on release

  • @raul12300
    @raul12300 10 месяцев назад +2

    Hey thanks for doing this video I really hope you give the game another chance in the future maybe with a few mods to fix the crappy AI?
    I enjoy the game quite a bit but thats mostly because I love micromananing the economy to become nr1 great power without even firing a shot at anyone lol. I can definetly understand that its not what everyone expects of this game and it should absolutely offer more war and geopolitics.
    It also should fix its crappy AI but this is a paradox afterall, if they actually get decent AI would it even be a paradox game?

  • @alexandrucalinescu1921
    @alexandrucalinescu1921 10 месяцев назад +1

    Time for another artillery only video 🫦

  • @rexcert3569
    @rexcert3569 10 месяцев назад +5

    I think a loose front line mechanic would be nice, like assigning x army and x army to general then telling them to go to x border

  • @pktrainerpk5supersus459
    @pktrainerpk5supersus459 10 месяцев назад +2

    pro tip always go for cuba denmark greenland and iceland strategic value absolute

  • @XenoTechnian
    @XenoTechnian 10 месяцев назад +6

    I've consistently enjoyed Vic3 (very quickly become one of my favorite paradox games!) and while I've not had a chance to dig I to and wrap my head around the new update this video makes me excited to do so!

    • @larrylobster9896
      @larrylobster9896 10 месяцев назад

      it's brettty good man. everyone talks about the army but imo the local prices are the biggest change. can't just through down 200 textile mills in one place anymore, now you have to think about where to build stuff beyond how many peasants you got in a province

  • @dem_wer
    @dem_wer 9 месяцев назад +1

    'Is Victoria 3 good now?'
    *Paradox gives some money*
    'Of course, the greatest game I've ever played!'

  • @StalkerQtya
    @StalkerQtya 10 месяцев назад +4

    1:02 Probably because the majority of the player base abandoned it after it was released and the current overly positive review score only exists, because it's given by a really mindling community of shills. When you lost 90% of your audience it's not hard to please that 10% who will eat it up no matter what happens.

  • @GabRap
    @GabRap 10 месяцев назад +1

    Can you make a video catching the achievement "Huge Ego, Sorry", it would actually be wacky