Apologies for the shaky video; I was experimenting with a new camera position (strapped to my chest, no image stabilisation). I will probably be going back to the good old helmet-mounted cam next time :)
@@916strada Apologies, Tom. I have only just picked your message up. I do still have the red radiator cowls, but would prefer to hang on to them for when it comes time to sell the bike :)
I remember the late great Sabine Schmitz saying that if she could only upgrade one thing in a car, it would be the brakes. “You can only go as fast as you can brake”
I gave up my gen 1 V-Strom 650 for a gen 1 cb500x. I don't miss the power so much. As you stated, the most fun to be had is often not at "high speed" but at full throttle. I am constantly battling my desire for comfort and practicality with my desire for excitement and fun. Ultimately, practicality wins out. That's why the cb500x is for me. I feel that the trident is the closest you have come to that perfect mixture of assets for your preferences.
Great video - the camera shake didn't bother me too much. Your reviews are from the heart and you have an easy listening voice, logical review structure and the video is well edited. The Trident came out too late for me. After 32 years of family and no bikes, I watched the reviews of the RE650 Interceptor, several Reviewers bought one!! So did I - great price point, easy to ride and fun. Wife said there was no room for two up riding so I bought an R1200RT as well. So having fun on that too! 6,000kms on each bike over last 12 months! The Trident would have been my one bike selection, although not sure about touring or pillion riding.
Thank you :) I know what you mean: I had been eyeing up the RE too, but wasn't sure about only having 48hp. Then the Trident appeared out of nowhere and I took the plunge. It's not perfect, but for the price it's a very good all-rounder. You're quite right about taking a passenger, though, and I certainly wouldn't want to go touring on it :)
The triple is definitely a redeeming quality for any shortfalls in the Triumph! The triple sounds so good and has excellent power. Ride safe my friend!
I know I'm commenting late, but I agree with all of this. I love my Trident, but you're right-it'd be fun to have 10-15 more HP (though it doesn't really NEED it), slightly sharper brakes, and, for me, a metal tank. I also think it would be nice to have a "sport" mode to sharpen the throttle response in lower gears a bit. But overall it's been a great bike the past year for me.
Great bike, yes. I sold mine, as you may have seen in my videos, for a Speed Twin. It's a heavier feeling bike, but I never tire of the power & torque. Much beefier than the Trident, but it depends what you like :)
holy sh*t i saw you the other day passing by albufeira.... im looking to buy the trident as my second bike and you make me fall in love with that bike hahaha btw thats me 1:22 :P
Thanks for the updates, and well considered reviews/comments. I have had the same colour ordered 5 weeks, expected into my dealers very soon. I had a demo today, absolutely loved it, and can’t wait to pick it up.
Couldn’t agree more with your comments. Although I’m not in the market for one, I do believe it represents good bang for your buck when compared to other machines in this sector. Obviously not an issue for you in the sunny climbs of Southern Portugal, but here in the UK, heated grips would be nice. If I had one, would definitely add after market heated grips and maybe some sort of a headlight guard and radiator guard together with a longer front mudguard, just to help protect.
@ Pale Rider I thought that front mudguard would appear on the 'dislikes' list, then I remembered we were on the South coast of Portugal :D You and the bike would be covered in all sorts in the UK. Agree with you on the radiator guard, and the headlight guard could be useful as I bet that's not cheap to replace. I'm a summer only rider these days so I can live without the heated grips (most of the time :-)
@@RocketMan_MotoThe last time I was on the Algarve was in the very early '80's. We stayed in Monte Gordo but got around quite a bit. Hopefully I'll be able to get back one day, I probably could have 'crossed the border' in 2019 as I was pretty close while touring the Pico's de Europa / Northern Spain, but that's just 'cheating'. As always a very honest review. I think I saw in one of the comments you have purchased another bike...look forward to seeing that! It looks like I'll be keeping my old Honda a while longer as the Triumph doesn't look like it would take too kindly to 40 Kg of touring luggage.
Thank you for your honesty. Regarding power: I like more of it, because then I don`t have to wring it`s neck all the time, making me a calmer rider.... Everything is about personal preference.
I own two CB500’s. They’re a fantastic bike and I would thoroughly recommend to anyone. Plenty of people in our owners group own litre sports bikes and have just as much fun on the CB.
Thanks for a fine video. I've been seriously considering buying the Trident and I now got some new substance for pondering. A second point - it's very nice to listen to your English.
Always pleasant to watch your carefully narrated videos. Trident definitely hit the spot with that bike, it is the one I would go to if I were to switch now - I'll keep logging more miles and experience until such change begins to make more sense for me. I must insist @RocketMan, that if you want proper navigation you must find a way to strap your mobile phone to handlebar or in the end of the fork.
"Preload" only applies to the spring of the rear shock. I can see this comes with a remote preload adjuster which is cool, but only affects the springs preload. Setting "static" and "race sag" in important to offset weight of bike and weight of rider with gear & addons on the bike. It sounds like most gripes about this bike come from a shock setup issue for being too "firm." I'm not sure if its compression and rebound adjustable but sounds like it needs a few clicks off from the compression setting.
Good review. Biggest problem on U.K. roads is rear shock. Not sure it’s just the spring a bit hard it could be preload damping as I see double vision over some ripples near me and it does sag as you sit on it so spring not too far out. When run in I might agree on power (my Diavel was twice the power) but seems really quick so far as torque and light weight winning so far
Good summary, Stuart. The Trident is all the bike anyone needs... but it still doesn't stop us eyeing up other bikes. I'm testing the new Speed Triple soon: twice the power, twice the price. Fortunately, to the uninitiated, like my wife, it looks the same as the Trident, so I could probably swap without her even noticing, lol :)
I’m 68 I adjusted pre load since 1971. Trident is on minimum as standard too hard for me. It’s only got 80bhp not exactly a sports bike. I replaced with a racing multi adjustment shock. My Trident Facebook group many have replaced the basis economy shock.
This is almost the same reason why i chose V-Strom 1000 over fancy GS/Tiger/Multistrada or other adv bike. Because it can do all that other bikes can but for a lower price and you never think that you spent too much money. You know what you paid for and it makes you happy in long term.
Thanks, Graham. I sold my Trident after 5 months for a Speed Twin. My mate has a Trident, though, and I will be doing a comparison video soon. I am aware that there have been one or two minor problems with the Trident already.
I’m my opinion this is the standard all trident reviews should be aiming for, superb. I was very close to signing on the pcp dotted line for one of these but went for one of the last twin exhaust street triple 675 models with only 7000 miles for half the price. I have to agree the trident has plenty of go but the extra 20hp I have gives it everything I need for the road. There’s also far less sign of penny pinching on fittings etc. Mind you my previous bike was a 1999 Suzuki so a 2012 street triple is like a bike from the future for me! Great review, much appreciated.
My Trident has just passed 500 miles running in and I love it. The finish, ride and look of the bike are awesome. Seat fine for long trips. Just fitted paddock stand bobbins. Easy fit.
Interesting observation regarding the cost to buy vs enjoyment. When I got my license I test rode a 10-year-old Bandit, at the same time as a new Tiger 800 (dream bike), I went for the Bandit as a ‘first bike’ in case the inevitable drop took place in my first year, but after riding both back to back, wasn’t upset with choosing the cheaper older bike.
Thank you for the honest and down to earth reviews. Love your videos. (11:20 still too much wax on the T-logo. Time to bring out the toothbrush and clean up the residue.)
Many comments about "not enough power". Always the syndrome of 15-20hp would be perfect. Honestly how many times do people use 80hp on public roads??! There is a study made with bikes between 60-130hp and on a long journey different roads average hp usage was 30hp and even peak power average of 65hp on a 280kg motorbike. I ride daily a 27hp scooter and don't need more power solo. Also ride a fun sv650 with 72-75hp and it is more than most could use. On a bandit 1200, I was 90% of times ubder 4000rpm. The real question is, aren't hp desire of ego more than a real necessity? A more powerfull bike is always more fun? How much is enough? If people didn't know power figures how would they choose motorbikes after riding them? Try the bike, feel it and if it adapts to your riding style and use. Don't compromise important things just to show off to your friends and enrich your ego. Sometimes, you are faster on a less powerfull bike because it is more predictable, lighter and user friendly
Had mine for about 2 weeks now, the same color, love every bit of it. The engine, even with factory exhaust, sounds so good and plenty powerful for me. The only thing I find a bit "unfinished" is the front area of the instrument panel, the 3 silver screws. I'm adding a black fly screen.
@@RocketMan_Moto I didn't like the silver fly screen, hoping the black one blends in more. I might try painting the screws too if I didn't like the screen.
Nice review as usual. The Trident is a bike I'm considering buying after 20 plus years away from riding, it seems to be an ideal way to get back into it without spending a fortune. You did surprise me though when you said it begins to run out of steam at 6500rpm, doesn't the triple engine give it the bottom end of a twin and some of the top end of an inline four?, 6500rpm seems very early for the power to be tailing off.
Thank you. It's all relative, maybe 'running out of steam' is a bit harsh - there's still enough power, but you can feel you've only got 80hp, rather than, say, the 120 I had on my Street Triple. It's really not a problem in day-to-day riding, though :)
Last Friday i ordered mine, it will come in June and i am so excited. Thanks to your Videos (and some other info gathering) I am getting the matt black with grey aesthetics :D
Greetings RM, another informative and well-presented video. You have an interesting and soothing narrative style which leads me to suggest that you might consider developing hybrid presentations that serve as travelogues of motorcycle touring in Portugal, including narratives about the Portuguese countryside, towns, historical features, as well as the usual commentary about motorcycling. As a kid, I loved the televised travelogues of an itinerant bicycle rider that were interesting from both a bicycling and place-based perspective. I know, easy for me to suggest; another matter to produce! Many thanks!
Thanks for the amazing video! There is no “perfect bike”, only bike that suit your style and the Trident is the bike for me. It’s compact, light, premium looking and enough HP to my liking. I live in Viet Nam and had the Trident for 3 weeks, absolutely loving it! I’m going to install the Accossato clutch lever, brembo RCS19 brake lever with dual sliding brembo brake calipers on the front next
For me it’s come down to this or the Z650. There are some differences such as less horsepower and lack of traction control on the Z. But I do like the Z has a metal tank to which I can add proper rubber tank grips, the larger TFT display and ergos fit me a little better. But the Trident has the tires I want (would have to change them out on the Z), and no dealers within 500 miles have a Z650 with ABS. What a time to have such tough decisions! I feel like I may be happy with either, and since I’ve been without a bike for a few weeks, I’m leaning Trident. Thank you for your videos.
Great video with honest opinions. That bone shaking ride at 6:25 looked painful, even though the roads looked relatively pothole free. The suspension is definitely something to sort out.
Thanks. To be fair, it looks worse on camera than it felt - I was experimenting with the camera strapped to my chest... The suspension isn't any firmer than on my Street Triple, or for example the Honda CB650R I tested a couple of weeks ago :)
Well, the better torque curve means you don’t need to give it so many revs to get at the power, compared to the 4-cylinder Honda, so vibration is less of an issue. All bikes vibrate, but the Trident is one of the ‘least worst’ bikes I’ve ridden.
@@maxflight777 I actually am really interested in the trident and especially for the price. I'll be using it as a commuter bike so I'll be keeping my phone on the handlebar so I don't want the vibration to ruin my camera over time. I guess I'll know for sure after my test ride.
Torn between Trident 660 and Cb650R as my first bike. My only concern is how much mods can I put in to it? Because there aren't perfect bike for me I guess. There's always something you need or want to change in your bike. CB650R has tons of mods in the market already while Trident 660 have few. What I would love to change in the handle bar and would love to put woodcraft clip ons on Trident 660 if it would fit and would love to change that tall side mirrors to handle bar side mirrors and also since its new in the market I don't know if it can be reflashed to unlock the restrictions on the bike. I am a fan of XSR900 looks and that's why one of my choices is is Trident 660. Thanks for this info! I'll visit the Triumph showroom and try this bike.
I understand. I have a new bike on order and one of the reasons I chose it was because the modding scene is so developed. I would still argue that the Trident is the better of the two bikes, however :)
I do find your review comprehensive and while I do believe this is a very good looking bike I (still) believe some things are not suitable for me: the seat is inclined forward, I find that very uncomfortable, a lot of vibration over 80 km/h, basically the mirrors are useless (test drive on a highway), the throttle has a delay (understandable...maybe being electronic) and slow in a way (I am a beginner and still I did not find it too lively). While waiting in a queue the engine was heating quite a lot (around 7 minutes queueing) which I was able too feel through my pants...also for me the size and the riding position was not on my taste (187 cm and 110 Kg).... I felt like a gorilla on my daughter`s small bicycle. I was so decided to buy one but after this test drive, let`s say it was not what I was hoping for, so I went for an mt-07 which I believe is more close to my taste, meaning I feel like I am on a motorcycle, is much more responsive while accelerating and braking. Nevertheless I believe this is a perfect beginner bike and also for ladies due to it`s size and the way it accelerates, you will never feel afraid while riding it is just tamed. Thank you for your review.
I think 70-80 hp is more than adequate for a nimble, naked street bike. I owned an Sv 650 for several years & rarely felt completely outgunned, despite going on many trips with friends on Cbr's, Gsxr's, R1's, etc. In fact when it came to riding faster twisty roads, a fair few of them often struggled to keep me in their sights : )
When I used to live in France, all bikes were only allowed a maximum of 100hp, and we were quite happy with that, because we knew we couldn't have any more. I agree that 80hp is enough for the road :)
@@RocketMan_Moto Also I know technologies moved on, but 80hp is roughly what the first large capacity super bikes like the Z900 had. They were much heavier than modern mid-capacity bikes, but seemed a lot faster because the handling was so scary : )
Hi RocketMan. Greetings from a portuguese! I don't know how long have you been living in Algarve, but I hope you're enjoying it! Also I know I'm a bit late on commenting regarding the time you've posted this video, but I'm torn between the CB650r and the Trident (although more inclined for the Trident). I would like to know if you found any particular problem with the trident regarding reliability for the time you had it. That's what's been keeping me undecided between the Honda and the Triumph, the reliability between the brands. Keep making great content like this!
Thanks, Diogo. I made a comparison video with the CBR here: Triumph TRIDENT vs Honda CB650R HEAD-TO-HEAD [QuickTest#5] ruclips.net/video/l8ca0LMzf0w/видео.html It’s a great bike, but I prefer the more torquey Trident. The Honda ultimately has more power, but you need to rev it😊
@@RocketMan_Moto Yes I know! I've seen that video several times already and really liked it aswell (perhaps I should have commented on that one instead)😀. Since I didn't see you talking about reliability issues that's the reason why I was asking you personally. Anyways, thank you for replying and for you help! Keep on making great content!
I am confused between F900R and Trident. In Canada with couple of mods Trident is around $12500 out the door in compare to BMW F900R which is around $13500 out the door with their $1000 incentive and I manage to test ride the F900R and really liked the bike.
I had the F900XR, which is quite a bit more expensive than the R, especially with all the options. Personally, I would still choose the Trident over the F900R, though. Feel free to watch my 'Why I sold my BMW after 6 only months' video, if you want to know why :)
@@RocketMan_Moto I did watch that video but as you mentioned in the video that you bought early production bike and also the service you get from the dealer. So not that will be still relevant in my case. ☺️ Plus I also talked to other people who own the F900R and influencer/critics who rode the F900R so far got the positive reviews from them.
Hey there rocketman, great vid and ride you got there! I am so in between mt07 and trident 660 that i dont know which one to buy next winter. I absolutely love the looks on both, but i am more inclined to trident for better sound, but then again mt is cheaper. I was also wondering about the throttle experience. People tend to say that the ride by wire in trident isnt as responsive as it should. While i tested out both mt07 and trident, it didnt feel much of a difference in terms of throttle response, just a tiny bit of a delay on trident. Whats your take on this?
Zero storage space wouldn't necessarily stop me buying this as there are always tank bags. I don't like the sound of the overly firm suspension. Algarve backroads etc. The other things you mention wouldn't bother me. When the engine is a bike's best feature, it is worth buying. I like the way the registration plate is mounted. The dash is superb, and this matters to me because you see it when riding. If you have no issues with this bike over the coming months, I will consider one when I get back to Lagos. I want to replace my gargantuan 1700 cc cruiser-engined MT-01 with a bike that is less than 750 cc, just for use around the Algarve. The usual first-class video, RM.
Thanks :) As I said, none of the negatives is a deal-breaker for me. The positives far outweigh the (small) black marks and for the price, what's not to like? :)
Your reasons are those of the veterans. I subscribe them. That' s why I keep my beloved Royal Enfield Classic 500. She is the best toy. The only bike I dream about at a veteran age is a Harley Softail , an Indian Chief 2021... or a Vespa HPE 300 (always keeping the Classic 500 if I had space in the garage),😎 Your videos always taste to me like my last 2020 holidays at Lagos beaches. Thank you.
Thanks for the video better a real world commentary. 1) The gears are too close, 6th gear on this bike is like 4th on my other bikes. (750cc, 462cc, 800cc) 2) The rear brake is light compared to my other bikes (even the Himalayan!) 3) The fuel warning screen comes on without a DTE. It already has DTE, covers it up with the new screen. The two bars on the fuel indicator isn't specific enough.
Thanks for your feedback. All valid points… as far as I can recall. I actually sold the bike a year ago and now have a Speed Twin, which largely addresses many of the issues I had with the Trident. Ride safe😊
You raised an idea in my head: What about a Trident 900? Mixing all the best of the Trident 660, the Speed Twin and the Street Triple R. In concrete: Don't make the Trident 900 a race bike, just 120 PS, more than 90 NM, Brembo M4 or better Brakes, nice Forks and Shock (but not race track Öhlins) - and the modern classic look, a mix of speed twin and Trident 660. That all together would be my bike of choice. Right now I do ride a Street Triple R (MY 2020). On addition: After thinking about my proposal above, it sounded to me "like a Yamaha XSR900 - but made by Triumph" so most likely beeing just nicer in all the details, which in my opinion makes the difference between liking your bike and loving it.
@@RocketMan_Moto After getting my Triple R last year + having read the rumours about the upcoming Speed Triple RS 2021 - I was thinking about how nice a 900x between Street and Speed Triple would be (as 180 HP is clearly not what I want/desire). But with you video above of the Trident - and its beauty and advantages towards the Street Triple (R or RS) - I take my wish of s Street+Speed Triple 900 back. It would by still too racy, and most likely also too expensive (13k++). So a Trident 900, with a clear road focus, but a little more umpf than the Trident 660 - would be wonderful. Close to the already very good Speed Twin 1200 - just I prefer the classic+modern look (Trident) any for sure a Triple over a Twin.
Preload is for setting SAG, nothing to do with being compliant. If you are heavier than average up the preload an extra 2-3 notches, you will get a longer compression stroke which will give you more rear travel ( if the bike needs it or can use it) and you may get a better ride on poorer surfaces. At the end of the day though it is how that shock is damped. When they do a shock for the Trident get a Wilbers 640 made for your weight and riding preference, you won’t know yourself.
Thank you for the wonderful follow up review. I have the Trident in Sapphire Black and found that adding the round bar-end mirrors significantly added to the aesthetics. I am not particularly impressed by the sound of the engine, as the whoosh seems more like cylinders suffering from asthma, but then that''s a subjective thing. If you get the chance, please test the new Ducati monster, and share a comparative review. While the two would not fall in the same category by cc size or price, the extra hp may be a remedy for what the Trident lacks. Best regards.
I agree with so much of your appraisal. I removed my rear pegs looks so much better. the ride is very harsh on bumpy roads I may have to invest in a rear shock when more reasonably priced options arrive. Mine is same colour , the red is growing on me, not made my mind up about the tail tidy options.Levers not decided upon yet ,either still running in which is a pain limiting the revs as it's so keen to wizz.Cheers
Thanks. Nice to know you share my opinions. The lever swap is worthwhile, imo, and so cheap (about £35), that if you don't like them you can just chalk it up to experience :)
Love your reviews! I noticed you have a clear tank guard. Where did you get that? Please share a link. All good points you noticed even some I haven’t. Are the brakes a deal breaker?I like the Street triple brakes too. Keep up the great work!!
Man that looks like a fun bike! I’m a new rider and bought an iron 883 Harley Davidson as my first bike last October, as a Harley Davidson is the only “real” bike to have living in Tulsa Oklahoma.🤷🏻♂️ Or so I thought. With 50 hp and a wet weight of 560lbs I it’s not a fast bike. I recently put a stage 1 on it that really spiced it up a very noticeable amount. So I’m very glad for that. But as a newer rider with limited experience I’ve never ridden a naked bike or anything with any real power, even 80hp. I also knew absolutely nothing about Triumph when I purchased my iron. I was simply urged by everyone to “get yourself a Harley Davidson! That’s a real bike!” Don’t get me wrong I have a blast on my Harley but I wish I had tried out some different bikes before making the plunge. Of course being in Tulsa Oklahoma there isn’t a Triumph dealer until I get to Oklahoma City, about 2-3 hrs away. So between picking out a bike and the inevitable regular service of said bike, it might not be the most practical decision. But man, they make some killer looking and performing bikes from what I can gather anyway! At least I have a bike that can do all the around town duties and take a 1.5 hr trip on the highway with no issues whatsoever. So that’s nice because there are plenty of highways around here. I’m long winded, sorry
Lol, nice story, Robby. Thanks :) Weight is everything and I personally prefer small, light bikes. I recently swapped my Trident for a Triumph Speed Twin; it's more powerful (100hp), but especially more torquey, a bit like a HD. Only problem is, it weighs about 30lbs more than the Trident and you can feel the difference. I would encourage you to try a bike like the Trident, if only to feel how nimble it is.
I’ve thoroughly enjoyed watching your video and your thoughts on the 660 trident. I’ve had mine for two months now and have a couple of niggles having covered 2500 miles. (the sheep in the Lake District wave as I pass now). In saying that I’ve cured most of the niggles and like yourself I opted for the TEC clutch and brake lever as the reach for the clutch was to great. I was looking for a tail tidy but the looks of the number plate hugger has grown on me and looks mint with a baby number plate. Looks more in keeping with the bike than the road legal one (sorry Dibble but it’s purely cosmetic, honestly). The seat is quite hard for my boney old @rse but a gel touring cushion has overcome that. Again partly cosmetic but thinking about stone damage I added a triumph logoed radiator cover in black, looks good. Not so good and as you say is the red plastic side radiator cover, plus the red flashing on the front mudguard, cheap looking. I’ll look at replacing the side radiator cover if and when something kinder to the eye comes out but I’ve replaced the front mudguard with gloss black. Spent a fortune on a “cheap” bike which I know is unrecoverable but I love the thing. To Many plus points to list
Thanks for that. I've had silver radiator cowls on order for many weeks, but they're still not here :( The red 'L plate' on the front mudguard had to go, but it was easy to vinyl over. I agree about the number plate: the bike would obviously look better without it, but I'm not 100% sure that a traditional under-seat tailtidy would look any better. Ride safe :)
I know you have moved on from the Trident, but I really enjoy your observations which are really fair and mostly spot on, I owned a Street twin (2017) and now have a RE 650cc Interceptor, which I am loathe to give up as it harkens back to those halcyon days when I was riding 1965 tt specials. I can't afford a Speed twin so the price of the Trident puts it in reach as a second bike, You review is encouraging as I have heard from other it is somewhat anemic. I will go test ride one with all this in mind, thanks.
@@RocketMan_Moto yes, with 45-50 HP ( I have up tuned my Interceptor), there is no comparison there, and it (the Trident) would be my fix for what I used to have with a bit more moderation than my reflashed hyper tuned MT07, I'm getting old now :)
My friend (who appears in a couple of my videos on the Speed Twin) is in his late sixties and loved his Trident. He has decided to give up motorcycling all together, though, so has now sold it. As I said in one of my 'Why I sold my Trident' video, it's the best bike I've ever sold :)
@@RocketMan_Moto that's very interesting, I'm trying to iron out my 'style'. I think it will come naturally in time. Looking forward to your next review :)
I watched all your TRIUMPH Trident 660 videos and I liked them all. Being English not my native language, I like very much your clear and articulated speaking. It makes it easy to follow your explanations and narrations. I agree with some of your "hates", and now after owning the TRIUMPH Trident 660 for a while I have to say that our most "hate" is the seat, which can get very uncomfortable after 1 - 1.5 hours of driving, at least for my wife. It gets painful and we are thinking in letting it rebuild for better suiting. What are your experiences ?
Thanks :) I haven't really had any issues with the seat, but that may be because I usually ride for less than 1.5 hours before taking a break (lunch...). When you refer to your wife, are you talking about her riding behind you as a passenger? I have never tried riding two-up on the Trident; the rear seat looks too small and I wouldn't expect my wife to sit on it for anything other than very short trips, say less than 10 minutes. I think there are better bikes available if you regularly take a passenger. Ride safe :)
@@RocketMan_Moto Actually the TRIUMPH Trident 660 is the motorbike of my wife and she drives it. Usually when we are on tour we plan breaks about every 1 hour, but that does not change anything about the driver seat to be uncomfortable for her. I agree with you, the rear seat does not really work for a passenger ...
Great Ux video. Thanks. I am in a phase to purchase such a bike and Trident is one of the options. The second option is Yamaha XSR700. Would you be able to comment if you considered such an option?
I'm 6'4 and I'm thinking about going for one of these over the mt07 or even the new hornet. Honestly, the hornet might have more power and torque but the looks are really not my cup of tea and from what I've heard, size wise, the trident should fit me better. Obviously the Trident with 10 bhp more would be the sweet spot but I'll take ergonomics over power. Do you have any input on ergonomics for taller riders such as myself? Or even other motorcycles that would be a better bet?
How’s it feel to ride on the correct side of the road? 😁 I agree that the red is out of place. I like the raised letters. The large logo is the best scheme but there’s only one glossy finish with this logo... leaving you with red highlights. Manufacturers, Please lay off the matte black everything. One model is fine but like KTM if you make them all ugly won’t be interested. I like the tail... there is only so much you can do if you want to stop the weather from ruining your finish. Either a big plastic post sticking out like many others or this more subdued version allowing the seat to appear to float... if anything I’d prefer a full fender covering the tire under there in black to keep it as hidden as possible. I hope they fix the things you’ve mentioned before I buy one next season.
At the risk of flying in the face of popular opinion, although you rate those michelins, (so does everyone,) they are quite firm, so i wouldn't rule out a tyre change to help ride quality. However trying to find objective info on tyre ride quality is tricky, due to the obsession with 'ultimate' grip and track performance.
Great video and I agree with all your points having had mine for a couple of months now. Only thing is I don't quite agree on comparing the breaks to those of other bikes in the Triumph range given the price differential.
You're right, James - comparing the Trident's 'cheap' brakes with Stylemas isn't very fair. I just wish we were able to configure our own bikes; I would be happy to put an extra €1500 in to get some top-level brakes & suspension. Maybe a Trident R next year?? :)
Informative video as always, What I am really interested in is Triumph using the trident platform for a mid range adventure bike...(as illustrated in their background image at a recent presentation) now if they can pull that off!
I agree that would make a great bike. Adventure bikes have become too cumbersome and expensive of late. Back to basics à la Royal Enfield is the way to go, imo :)
Hello RocketMan, I'm Valiant and I also own a Trident. The dealer recently installed the Shift Assist. It seems hard or there's a tug on lower gears like 2nd or 3rd. Is there a tip you can share in regards to RPM for example before I use the shift assist for Up/down? Much appreciate any advise you can share. Thanks!
I haven't encountered this problem, and find the Trident's quick shifter among the best I've tried on any bike. That said, as with all QS, you do need to keep the gearbox under load when shifting. It's counter intuitive, but if you release the throttle, or don't have enough revs, then the shift is jerky. Hope this helps :)
It was informative video..thks for tat..👏 I am planning to upgrade from basic commuter bike ( ie. Single cylinder 150 cc and 16 bhp ) to trident 660.. my prospective second bike would also be my last bike. could u plz clarify on braking..after hearing from u abt it's average braking.. I am not getting enough confidence to go further.. I wish to pass on this bike to my son 15 years down the line..so I have to make a right choice and be double sure abt my hard earned money..and I can't stretch beyond this budget..plz suggest..
Don't let my comments on the brakes put you off, they are perfectly adequate and way better than, say, those on our scooter. It's just that once you've tried big (and very expensive) Brembos, it's difficult going back. The Trident's brakes are just as good as those on the Honda CB650R or Yamaha MT07. It's a great all-round bike :)
Few horses more and better brakes leads to Monster 821... What you think? Did you ride it? I am concerned about the large turning circle and the need for specialist (expensive) valve/timing service
I had the loan of a Trident for the day while my Striple was being serviced. Firstly mine did have an adjustably brake lever. I would agree with most of what you said adding that I thought the handling was good, excellent grip from the Michelin tyres. I only rode the bike for a few hours from Alicante to my house over my favourite 'hooligan'' road...Oh! fist time I rode a bike with fly by wire, found the throttle a bit hesitant. Nice easy bike to ride...would I swop the Striple..no I wouldn't.... I just love my Street Triple.
I miss the extra power of the Street, but on the whole prefer the more relaxed riding position and low-down torque of the Trident. It would be nice to have both!
Having owned a number of Triumphs over that last few years one "feature" on all of them was the fan cutting in regularly when poodling around town or in traffic and that was in the UK. Does your Trident do the same thing, bearing in mind that you're in the South of Portugal? I now live in the South of France and would love to own a Trident, but I'd need to be reassured that it won't have the fan running all the time in summer.
I don't think the fan on my Trident kicked in once, tbh. I sold it a couple of weeks ago, but we had a fair bit of hot weather and I don't recall hearing the fan.
Thanks, that's good to know. Blimey, you change your bike more often than I change my underwear! Lol. I've just had a tally up and I'm on my 12th bike in 46 years of biking. I've currently got a new Honda CB500X, it's a nice bike but it's a huge step down from my 1050 Speed Triple that I had in the UK up until I moved here last October, so I think that I need something with slightly more "go" in it. Anyway, great youtube channel, mate. 😎👍
Hello RocketMan, Nice video, I'm just obtaining muy A2 license and I think I'll choose The Triumph's Tridente bit I wonder if, like you've said in the video that the Tridents need 15+ HP, what about the Street Triple S (you Gould limit for A2 and then you'll hace 95hp) what do you think?
Good question. You look a lot younger than me, so I'd maybe say go for the Street Triple. The design is a bit older, but it's got a lot more power. If you like modernity and gadgets, though, I'd choose the Trident. Both are excellent bikes, so either way you won't be disappointed :)
@@RocketMan_Moto Thanks for the information! I'm 40 years old (I hace to update my profile Pic, hehe) I don't know exactly what I choose (I like the Trident's design but Street Triple S' performance)... Until I obtain the license I've time to think about... Thanks a lote for tour feedback and videos
It is a matter of personal preference, I think. I agree on the brake and levels (at least make both adjustable). Don't really care about storage (bottom of my concern). I am not a fan of tail tidy on any bike due to safety concern (Trident looks perfect as it). I like red, or more visible color, in fact not enough, not a fan of total blackout bike (most bikers do), again for safety as bikes are already dangerous being invisible on street. Overall I am more concerned about safety over look.
I agree re. tail tidy - I doubt it will make the bike look any better, is (slightly) less safe and will probably make the bike more difficult to sell. I swap bikes every year and stock is definitely what buyers like. Ride safe :)
Thanks, Steven. Not to burst your bubble, but as you may have seen in my later videos, I actually sold the Trident after 5 months for a Speed Twin. The Trident is a great 'little' bike, but I wanted something a bit meatier :)
I’m thinking about getting this bike and possibly removing that arm and getting a tail tidy. Could you post the link to it? I want to see if it’s available in the US. Thanks!
There aren't any tail tidies available yet, but the best ones are usually made by Evotech Performance in the UK. They have one up on their website, but it's not available yet. Hope this helps :)
Thanks. Well, it all comes down to personal preference, of course, but honestly, the more I ride the Trident, the more I like it. I usually get bored with bikes after a few months, but not this one :)
What a refreshing review, congrats mate! Top quality! If you could help me out, I owned a 2013 street triple r, the. switched it for a 2016 daytona sold my bike in 2019. I’ve been looking to get back on two wheels. Do you think the trident is good for that or will I miss the power on the daytona or striple? It’s either this or the striple for me, so any input is appreciated. Awesome channel!
Thank you, Midlife :) As you may have seen in my Street Triple vs Trident video, I actually prefer the Trident to the Street I owned a couple of years ago. That said, it's probably because I'm getting older and prefer the more relaxed riding position ad low-down torque of the Trident. I do miss the extra top-end power of the Street, though. My very first bike was a Daytona, but I don't miss that as it really had to be revved to extract the power. A Trident R with some Öhlins and an extra 20hp would be perfect! :)
@@RocketMan_Moto thank you ! It seems we’ve had a similar motorcycle journey lol. I also think I could live with a few less horses in favor of more comfort and the feeling of having spent a more reasonable amount of money on my bike. Now it only comes down to convincing the wife😅 maybe you could make a video on that as well haha Wish you much success on youtube my friend, subbed!
I would worry about getting a naked bike again. I remember the pain from fighting against the wind blast. Would be interested to know if anyone has come across an effective bikini fairing to take the pain out of motorway riding. Trouble is, it may ruin the overall look, which is a large part of the bike's appeal.
I agree that looks are everything on the Trident and that's why, after much consideration, I'm probably not going to mess with the swing arm mounted plate/tail tidy. I'm not worried about wind blast as (a) the wind is warm down here (b) the roads aren't good enough to get up much speed, lol :)
Hello Mr. RocketMan, have you already replaced the rear shock? I've tried Trident yesterday; it's a really good bike I'd like to buy, but the rear shock is little bit disappointing. I'm ready to replace it when I buy and a suitable solution would be strongly appreciated. Have a great day! M.
Hi, Martin. No, not yet. I am waiting to see what becomes available. I like the idea of an Öhlins shock, but they're very expensive. Maybe Nitron in the UK??
It is worth waiting for. I have to agree with 95% of Rocketman's points. The trident gets me to work and back and its still great fun for the Kangaroo Valley to Macquarie Pass loop (NSW). Totally lacks cred in the Robbo Pie shop carpark where all the big, expensive and pretty bikes go to show off. But I can keep up with them through the run (well, mostly). :-)
Seems to me this Trident has everything going for it. Glad to see you’re happy with it. With an additional 10-20hp it would be in Ducati Monster 821(?) territory in terms of power. Was this a bike you considered at anytime or is the Duc less well mannered?
Im from Algarve too, i saw you on the road the other day. I just got my 2021 YAMAHA MT-07. If we come across any other day maybe you can do a comparison video
@@darciocandido7059 eu tenho a 07 ice fluo 2020 ,.. e te garanto , que na categoria , é a moto mais divertida , derivado ao facto de ser leve e seu carater de motor muito reativo,.. e tem um torque bem elastico caso o queiramos explorar mais , no sendo de todo nessessario pra andar normal, coisa algo dificil ,..lolkkkkkkkkk,.. mas se consegue,.. tanto se puxa uma 4- marcha ate +180 kmh ou se anda em 6- marcha a 70 ,..80 kmh , moto polivalente ,mas a cidade e circuito urbano é a sua praia ,..resumindo é boa ,.. e com um escape full,.. fica ainda melhor ,..mas muito mais viciante ,....lol
@@MrRui33333 sim sem dúvida, já tenho um Akrapovic carbono e um filtro de ar BMC, já está com um cantar mais bonito. Estou muito contente com a Mota mesmo
@@darciocandido7059 asserio !! que top,.. e já agora notastes algumas diferenças , principalmente em relaçao a questao do filtro,.. mas tbm do escape , que por sinal ainda é o meu preferido pra este modelo, mas eu optei por outro , por causa do preço , com muita pena pois esse que tu meteu é simplesmente brutal e tbm talvez o melhor em termos de ganhos em potencia ,.. ainda assim eu meti um roaditalia thunder carbon e sem db killer faz realmente diferença, é mais reativa ,.. melhor arranque ,.. e curiosamente aguenta melhor as marchas , mesmo rodando devagar , ou seja , ganha um pouco mais de binario , concerteza ,..e tbm queria vir a meter um filtro,..e mais umas coisinhas ,...a nivel estetica ,..de resto a moto é o que tu ja sabes e sentes ,.. muito divertida ,.. gostosa ,.. bem mais facil de domar e dominar que outras ,...e que ate permite emendar alguns erros ,..corrigir trajetorias etç,..é uma moto ate algo simples mas muito honesta e super divertida ! e ,... viciante tbm,...kkkk
Great review. Thank you. Only another three months before mine arrives… I have a nice little stack of extras over and above the triumph catalogue contents :-)
Ooh, going straight from the RS?😬 I sold mine in 2019, but had two ‘disappointing’ bikes in between, so the Trident felt great. Hope you’re not too underwhelmed...
Interesting mix of minus & plus points, RM. For me, having only 80 odd bhp is a plus, because as well as being perfect for just diddling around on, it allows me to ride the Trident like I stole it, when my mood & the conditions are right, without exceeding my limited riding talent. I believe the triple engine with a QS could even deliver more smiles on 'maximum attack' than an MT-07. And the price allows for mild customisation like adjustable levers and a must-have Evotech tail tidy. Still waiting for your thoughts on the QS - when will you fit it?
I have an option of buying sv650 with blue frame for 7000€, and sapphire black trident for 8400€. Even though the sv is a really great offer, it doesn't look nearly as good as the trident. Really torn up by the choice... Can you help me decide? Thanks!
Well, personally, I don't care for the looks of the Suzuki, so that alone seals it for me. Also, the SV is heavier and less powerful. Suzukis have a 'cheap' image, whereas Triumphs are seen as classier... Just my opinion, enjoy which ever you go for :)
@@RocketMan_Moto I've been convincing myself that the sv is good enough, because i got myself a discount (its a 2022 model), versus trident having a regular price. So, I can go with the sv and hope it will grow on me, or buy the trident and be happy right away :) Long story short, im buying the trident! Thanks for the reply, love the channel
Great review, I watched your f900xr review before I went with money in my hand to purchase r version. I thought you were to rough on bmw but when I went to a dealership, checked the bike, I was really disappointed with it so I left in 15 min from there. Now I’m thinking about Trident and there is your excellent review on it😂😂😂 We have pretty similar taste 😂😂😂
4:45 You are aware that every bike in the Trident's class other than the Honda CBR650, (which has the same power-output as the Trident) are weaker than your bike? I think perhaps that more horsepower from that size engine would make it harder to ride with a narrower band from which to get at the torque (higher revs)? Just a thought. There are more powerful bikes out there; they tend to have bigger engines, or be built to a different brief. or be costlier. Or all of the above..
Very nice video as usual... You can do some post processing on the video to clear some of the shakiness...it is something that even iMovie does :D... About street riding I am with you... Full throttle, doing drag races with pizza delivery guys at the stop lights and without entering the ilegal speed zone?! Sign me in :D
Haha, thanks :) I do need to look into image stabilisation, because other than that, I thought the new camera position made a nice change from all my other videos :)
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@@RocketMan_Moto totally agree... This is my preferred camera position by a longshot. Less stabilization from the rider neck, but somehow it feels a better angle of vision...
Why is it not good on a dual carriageway? It seems as though the Trident could sit at 60-70mph no problem with only clean air hitting you..? I currently ride a XMax300 and that is perfectly fine on motorways even and it “only” has 27bhp.
Apologies for the shaky video; I was experimenting with a new camera position (strapped to my chest, no image stabilisation). I will probably be going back to the good old helmet-mounted cam next time :)
@@916strada Apologies, Tom. I have only just picked your message up. I do still have the red radiator cowls, but would prefer to hang on to them for when it comes time to sell the bike :)
I remember the late great Sabine Schmitz saying that if she could only upgrade one thing in a car, it would be the brakes. “You can only go as fast as you can brake”
Wise words indeed🥰
You've had yours for 3 months, and I'm here still waiting for mine.
Sorry about that, but it’s worth the wait😊
Mr Face, ever arrived?
@Jacob99174 oh yeah I got it May 2021. Sold it after 3 months. Didn't like it!
@@shahfacekillah what was not good?
Did you get something in its place?
I gave up my gen 1 V-Strom 650 for a gen 1 cb500x. I don't miss the power so much. As you stated, the most fun to be had is often not at "high speed" but at full throttle. I am constantly battling my desire for comfort and practicality with my desire for excitement and fun. Ultimately, practicality wins out. That's why the cb500x is for me. I feel that the trident is the closest you have come to that perfect mixture of assets for your preferences.
I hear you. I sometimes regret selling my CB500X. It was a great bike👍
You provide such great real-life perspective on the bikes you review! Glad you’re enjoying the Trident!
Thanks for your kind words of encouragement :)
Love your measured, intelligent delivery. Picking up my Trident next week! Cheers mate... keep up the good work!
Thanks! I’m sure you’ll love your Trident😊
Thank you. Finally - someone who isn’t just gushing over a bike which, like all bikes, has it’s limitations.
Glad you liked it😊
Great video - the camera shake didn't bother me too much. Your reviews are from the heart and you have an easy listening voice, logical review structure and the video is well edited. The Trident came out too late for me. After 32 years of family and no bikes, I watched the reviews of the RE650 Interceptor, several Reviewers bought one!! So did I - great price point, easy to ride and fun. Wife said there was no room for two up riding so I bought an R1200RT as well. So having fun on that too! 6,000kms on each bike over last 12 months! The Trident would have been my one bike selection, although not sure about touring or pillion riding.
Thank you :) I know what you mean: I had been eyeing up the RE too, but wasn't sure about only having 48hp. Then the Trident appeared out of nowhere and I took the plunge. It's not perfect, but for the price it's a very good all-rounder. You're quite right about taking a passenger, though, and I certainly wouldn't want to go touring on it :)
The triple is definitely a redeeming quality for any shortfalls in the Triumph! The triple sounds so good and has excellent power. Ride safe my friend!
Thanks, Willy :)
Thanks for the video. I was waiting for more trident content! I’ve had the Trident for 3 weeks. Love the bike.
Glad you're happy with it. Are you thinking of any mods?
I know I'm commenting late, but I agree with all of this. I love my Trident, but you're right-it'd be fun to have 10-15 more HP (though it doesn't really NEED it), slightly sharper brakes, and, for me, a metal tank. I also think it would be nice to have a "sport" mode to sharpen the throttle response in lower gears a bit. But overall it's been a great bike the past year for me.
Great bike, yes. I sold mine, as you may have seen in my videos, for a Speed Twin. It's a heavier feeling bike, but I never tire of the power & torque. Much beefier than the Trident, but it depends what you like :)
holy sh*t i saw you the other day passing by albufeira.... im looking to buy the trident as my second bike and you make me fall in love with that bike hahaha
btw thats me 1:22 :P
Legal!! Boas curvas :)
Thanks for the updates, and well considered reviews/comments. I have had the same colour ordered 5 weeks, expected into my dealers very soon.
I had a demo today, absolutely loved it, and can’t wait to pick it up.
I’m sure you’ll be happy with it. Great bike😊
Hi there rocketman. Please do a cover of “my money dont jiggle jiggle, it folds” sincerely, viral internet
Lol
Couldn’t agree more with your comments. Although I’m not in the market for one, I do believe it represents good bang for your buck when compared to other machines in this sector. Obviously not an issue for you in the sunny climbs of Southern Portugal, but here in the UK, heated grips would be nice. If I had one, would definitely add after market heated grips and maybe some sort of a headlight guard and radiator guard together with a longer front mudguard, just to help protect.
I agree that heated grips are a must in the UK. I always had them when I lived in France😊
@ Pale Rider I thought that front mudguard would appear on the 'dislikes' list, then I remembered we were on the South coast of Portugal :D You and the bike would be covered in all sorts in the UK. Agree with you on the radiator guard, and the headlight guard could be useful as I bet that's not cheap to replace. I'm a summer only rider these days so I can live without the heated grips (most of the time :-)
My bikes just get covered in dust down here😬
@@RocketMan_MotoThe last time I was on the Algarve was in the very early '80's. We stayed in Monte Gordo but got around quite a bit. Hopefully I'll be able to get back one day, I probably could have 'crossed the border' in 2019 as I was pretty close while touring the Pico's de Europa / Northern Spain, but that's just 'cheating'. As always a very honest review. I think I saw in one of the comments you have purchased another bike...look forward to seeing that! It looks like I'll be keeping my old Honda a while longer as the Triumph doesn't look like it would take too kindly to 40 Kg of touring luggage.
Thank you for your honesty. Regarding power: I like more of it, because then I don`t have to wring it`s neck all the time, making me a calmer rider.... Everything is about personal preference.
I get what you mean, problem is that you never have enough power... :)
Thanks for the update. We need to discuss this amazing machines someday over a pint. I'm considering getting an old CB 500 to learn how to ride.
Sounds good :)
I own two CB500’s. They’re a fantastic bike and I would thoroughly recommend to anyone. Plenty of people in our owners group own litre sports bikes and have just as much fun on the CB.
What a nice honest review, it's nice to know it's shortcomings even if fairly trivial. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for your kind words of encouragement :)
Thanks for a fine video. I've been seriously considering buying the Trident and I now got some new substance for pondering. A second point - it's very nice to listen to your English.
Thanks, Markku. The Trident is a great bike - the best bike I've ever sold :)
Always pleasant to watch your carefully narrated videos.
Trident definitely hit the spot with that bike, it is the one I would go to if I were to switch now - I'll keep logging more miles and experience until such change begins to make more sense for me.
I must insist @RocketMan, that if you want proper navigation you must find a way to strap your mobile phone to handlebar or in the end of the fork.
I agree on the navigation, but tbh I don't use it that often. There aren't that many roads down here and it's pretty easy to find your way around :)
"Preload" only applies to the spring of the rear shock. I can see this comes with a remote preload adjuster which is cool, but only affects the springs preload. Setting "static" and "race sag" in important to offset weight of bike and weight of rider with gear & addons on the bike. It sounds like most gripes about this bike come from a shock setup issue for being too "firm." I'm not sure if its compression and rebound adjustable but sounds like it needs a few clicks off from the compression setting.
Thanks for your feedback
@@RocketMan_Moto Thank you! Great video
Good review. Biggest problem on U.K. roads is rear shock. Not sure it’s just the spring a bit hard it could be preload damping as I see double vision over some ripples near me and it does sag as you sit on it so spring not too far out. When run in I might agree on power (my Diavel was twice the power) but seems really quick so far as torque and light weight winning so far
Good summary, Stuart. The Trident is all the bike anyone needs... but it still doesn't stop us eyeing up other bikes. I'm testing the new Speed Triple soon: twice the power, twice the price. Fortunately, to the uninitiated, like my wife, it looks the same as the Trident, so I could probably swap without her even noticing, lol :)
You can adjust the preload on the rear shock to your weight.
I’m 68 I adjusted pre load since 1971. Trident is on minimum as standard too hard for me. It’s only got 80bhp not exactly a sports bike. I replaced with a racing multi adjustment shock. My Trident Facebook group many have replaced the basis economy shock.
This is almost the same reason why i chose V-Strom 1000 over fancy GS/Tiger/Multistrada or other adv bike. Because it can do all that other bikes can but for a lower price and you never think that you spent too much money. You know what you paid for and it makes you happy in long term.
Exactly :)
Great video. I'm very curious what maintenance and reliability will be like further down the road. Maybe an idea for a future video~~
Thanks, Graham. I sold my Trident after 5 months for a Speed Twin. My mate has a Trident, though, and I will be doing a comparison video soon. I am aware that there have been one or two minor problems with the Trident already.
I’m my opinion this is the standard all trident reviews should be aiming for, superb. I was very close to signing on the pcp dotted line for one of these but went for one of the last twin exhaust street triple 675 models with only 7000 miles for half the price. I have to agree the trident has plenty of go but the extra 20hp I have gives it everything I need for the road. There’s also far less sign of penny pinching on fittings etc. Mind you my previous bike was a 1999 Suzuki so a 2012 street triple is like a bike from the future for me!
Great review, much appreciated.
Thanks, Simon! I don't think you'll be disappointed by the ST, I loved mine :)
My Trident has just passed 500 miles running in and I love it. The finish, ride and look of the bike are awesome. Seat fine for long trips. Just fitted paddock stand bobbins. Easy fit.
It's a great bike. I'm very happy with mine, too. Ride safe :)
Interesting observation regarding the cost to buy vs enjoyment. When I got my license I test rode a 10-year-old Bandit, at the same time as a new Tiger 800 (dream bike), I went for the Bandit as a ‘first bike’ in case the inevitable drop took place in my first year, but after riding both back to back, wasn’t upset with choosing the cheaper older bike.
My point exactly. Sometimes, less is more :)
Thank you for the honest and down to earth reviews.
Love your videos.
(11:20 still too much wax on the T-logo. Time to bring out the toothbrush and clean up the residue.)
Thank you. I shall get my toothbrush out! :)
Stunning scenery, fantastic video! If I was in the market for a motorcycle in this category this video would be extremely helpful.
Thanks, as always, Pistol :)
Many comments about "not enough power". Always the syndrome of 15-20hp would be perfect. Honestly how many times do people use 80hp on public roads??! There is a study made with bikes between 60-130hp and on a long journey different roads average hp usage was 30hp and even peak power average of 65hp on a 280kg motorbike. I ride daily a 27hp scooter and don't need more power solo. Also ride a fun sv650 with 72-75hp and it is more than most could use. On a bandit 1200, I was 90% of times ubder 4000rpm. The real question is, aren't hp desire of ego more than a real necessity? A more powerfull bike is always more fun? How much is enough? If people didn't know power figures how would they choose motorbikes after riding them? Try the bike, feel it and if it adapts to your riding style and use. Don't compromise important things just to show off to your friends and enrich your ego. Sometimes, you are faster on a less powerfull bike because it is more predictable, lighter and user friendly
I agree: power is addictive and you always crave more. That's why I know that 80hp is in fact right for me :)
Had mine for about 2 weeks now, the same color, love every bit of it. The engine, even with factory exhaust, sounds so good and plenty powerful for me. The only thing I find a bit "unfinished" is the front area of the instrument panel, the 3 silver screws. I'm adding a black fly screen.
Agreed. I painted my 3 screws black, because I’m not a fan of the fly screen on the Trident. A lot cheaper too😊
@@RocketMan_Moto I didn't like the silver fly screen, hoping the black one blends in more. I might try painting the screws too if I didn't like the screen.
Nice review as usual. The Trident is a bike I'm considering buying after 20 plus years away from riding, it seems to be an ideal way to get back into it without spending a fortune. You did surprise me though when you said it begins to run out of steam at 6500rpm, doesn't the triple engine give it the bottom end of a twin and some of the top end of an inline four?, 6500rpm seems very early for the power to be tailing off.
Thank you. It's all relative, maybe 'running out of steam' is a bit harsh - there's still enough power, but you can feel you've only got 80hp, rather than, say, the 120 I had on my Street Triple. It's really not a problem in day-to-day riding, though :)
Last Friday i ordered mine, it will come in June and i am so excited.
Thanks to your Videos (and some other info gathering)
I am getting the matt black with grey aesthetics :D
Very nice! It will be a long wait, but a worthwhile one :)
15 to 20 more HP? You could easily do that with a combo of a full system exhaust an air filter, then remap it. You would feel the power of a triple
Sounds like a plan :)
Greetings RM, another informative and well-presented video. You have an interesting and soothing narrative style which leads me to suggest that you might consider developing hybrid presentations that serve as travelogues of motorcycle touring in Portugal, including narratives about the Portuguese countryside, towns, historical features, as well as the usual commentary about motorcycling. As a kid, I loved the televised travelogues of an itinerant bicycle rider that were interesting from both a bicycling and place-based perspective. I know, easy for me to suggest; another matter to produce! Many thanks!
Thanks, Timothy. I am thinking of adding another ingredient into the recipe shortly, so stick around :)
Thanks for the amazing video! There is no “perfect bike”, only bike that suit your style and the Trident is the bike for me. It’s compact, light, premium looking and enough HP to my liking. I live in Viet Nam and had the Trident for 3 weeks, absolutely loving it!
I’m going to install the Accossato clutch lever, brembo RCS19 brake lever with dual sliding brembo brake calipers on the front next
Brembo brakes should make a great bike even better! :)
For me it’s come down to this or the Z650. There are some differences such as less horsepower and lack of traction control on the Z. But I do like the Z has a metal tank to which I can add proper rubber tank grips, the larger TFT display and ergos fit me a little better. But the Trident has the tires I want (would have to change them out on the Z), and no dealers within 500 miles have a Z650 with ABS. What a time to have such tough decisions! I feel like I may be happy with either, and since I’ve been without a bike for a few weeks, I’m leaning Trident.
Thank you for your videos.
Nice dilemma to have. I tried the Z650, but went with the Trident for its sportier engine. Ride safe :)
Great video with honest opinions. That bone shaking ride at 6:25 looked painful, even though the roads looked relatively pothole free. The suspension is definitely something to sort out.
Thanks. To be fair, it looks worse on camera than it felt - I was experimenting with the camera strapped to my chest... The suspension isn't any firmer than on my Street Triple, or for example the Honda CB650R I tested a couple of weeks ago :)
You describing exactly what I've experienced on my loved FZ6R (XJ6). Lovely bike but always wanted 15-20hp more.
And I’m testing the new Speed Triple soon. Uh oh... 😬
How is the vibration on the higher RPMs? compared to a CB650R
Well, the better torque curve means you don’t need to give it so many revs to get at the power, compared to the 4-cylinder Honda, so vibration is less of an issue. All bikes vibrate, but the Trident is one of the ‘least worst’ bikes I’ve ridden.
@@maxflight777 I actually am really interested in the trident and especially for the price. I'll be using it as a commuter bike so I'll be keeping my phone on the handlebar so I don't want the vibration to ruin my camera over time. I guess I'll know for sure after my test ride.
Torn between Trident 660 and Cb650R as my first bike. My only concern is how much mods can I put in to it? Because there aren't perfect bike for me I guess. There's always something you need or want to change in your bike. CB650R has tons of mods in the market already while Trident 660 have few. What I would love to change in the handle bar and would love to put woodcraft clip ons on Trident 660 if it would fit and would love to change that tall side mirrors to handle bar side mirrors and also since its new in the market I don't know if it can be reflashed to unlock the restrictions on the bike. I am a fan of XSR900 looks and that's why one of my choices is is Trident 660. Thanks for this info! I'll visit the Triumph showroom and try this bike.
I understand. I have a new bike on order and one of the reasons I chose it was because the modding scene is so developed. I would still argue that the Trident is the better of the two bikes, however :)
I do find your review comprehensive and while I do believe this is a very good looking bike I (still) believe some things are not suitable for me: the seat is inclined forward, I find that very uncomfortable, a lot of vibration over 80 km/h, basically the mirrors are useless (test drive on a highway), the throttle has a delay (understandable...maybe being electronic) and slow in a way (I am a beginner and still I did not find it too lively). While waiting in a queue the engine was heating quite a lot (around 7 minutes queueing) which I was able too feel through my pants...also for me the size and the riding position was not on my taste (187 cm and 110 Kg).... I felt like a gorilla on my daughter`s small bicycle. I was so decided to buy one but after this test drive, let`s say it was not what I was hoping for, so I went for an mt-07 which I believe is more close to my taste, meaning I feel like I am on a motorcycle, is much more responsive while accelerating and braking. Nevertheless I believe this is a perfect beginner bike and also for ladies due to it`s size and the way it accelerates, you will never feel afraid while riding it is just tamed. Thank you for your review.
Thanks for your comment. The MT07 is more fun than the Trident, but personally I can’t get past the looks. I’m too old, lol😂
I think 70-80 hp is more than adequate for a nimble, naked street bike. I owned an Sv 650 for several years & rarely felt completely outgunned, despite going on many trips with friends on Cbr's, Gsxr's, R1's, etc. In fact when it came to riding faster twisty roads, a fair few of them often struggled to keep me in their sights : )
When I used to live in France, all bikes were only allowed a maximum of 100hp, and we were quite happy with that, because we knew we couldn't have any more. I agree that 80hp is enough for the road :)
@@RocketMan_Moto Also I know technologies moved on, but 80hp is roughly what the first large capacity super bikes like the Z900 had. They were much heavier than modern mid-capacity bikes, but seemed a lot faster because the handling was so scary : )
Hi RocketMan. Greetings from a portuguese!
I don't know how long have you been living in Algarve, but I hope you're enjoying it!
Also I know I'm a bit late on commenting regarding the time you've posted this video, but I'm torn between the CB650r and the Trident (although more inclined for the Trident). I would like to know if you found any particular problem with the trident regarding reliability for the time you had it. That's what's been keeping me undecided between the Honda and the Triumph, the reliability between the brands.
Keep making great content like this!
Thanks, Diogo. I made a comparison video with the CBR here: Triumph TRIDENT vs Honda CB650R HEAD-TO-HEAD [QuickTest#5]
ruclips.net/video/l8ca0LMzf0w/видео.html
It’s a great bike, but I prefer the more torquey Trident. The Honda ultimately has more power, but you need to rev it😊
@@RocketMan_Moto Yes I know! I've seen that video several times already and really liked it aswell (perhaps I should have commented on that one instead)😀.
Since I didn't see you talking about reliability issues that's the reason why I was asking you personally.
Anyways, thank you for replying and for you help! Keep on making great content!
Ah ok, sorry. Tbh, I’ve never had reliability issues with any of the Triumphs or Hondas I’ve owned
I am confused between F900R and Trident. In Canada with couple of mods Trident is around $12500 out the door in compare to BMW F900R which is around $13500 out the door with their $1000 incentive and I manage to test ride the F900R and really liked the bike.
I had the F900XR, which is quite a bit more expensive than the R, especially with all the options. Personally, I would still choose the Trident over the F900R, though. Feel free to watch my 'Why I sold my BMW after 6 only months' video, if you want to know why :)
@@RocketMan_Moto I did watch that video but as you mentioned in the video that you bought early production bike and also the service you get from the dealer. So not that will be still relevant in my case. ☺️ Plus I also talked to other people who own the F900R and influencer/critics who rode the F900R so far got the positive reviews from them.
Hey there rocketman, great vid and ride you got there!
I am so in between mt07 and trident 660 that i dont know which one to buy next winter. I absolutely love the looks on both, but i am more inclined to trident for better sound, but then again mt is cheaper.
I was also wondering about the throttle experience. People tend to say that the ride by wire in trident isnt as responsive as it should. While i tested out both mt07 and trident, it didnt feel much of a difference in terms of throttle response, just a tiny bit of a delay on trident. Whats your take on this?
Like you, I felt a tiny delay on the Trident, but I never had a problem with it. My Speed Twin - also RBW - feels the same.
Zero storage space wouldn't necessarily stop me buying this as there are always tank bags. I don't like the sound of the overly firm suspension. Algarve backroads etc. The other things you mention wouldn't bother me. When the engine is a bike's best feature, it is worth buying. I like the way the registration plate is mounted. The dash is superb, and this matters to me because you see it when riding.
If you have no issues with this bike over the coming months, I will consider one when I get back to Lagos. I want to replace my gargantuan 1700 cc cruiser-engined MT-01 with a bike that is less than 750 cc, just for use around the Algarve.
The usual first-class video, RM.
Thanks :) As I said, none of the negatives is a deal-breaker for me. The positives far outweigh the (small) black marks and for the price, what's not to like? :)
Your reasons are those of the veterans. I subscribe them. That' s why I keep my beloved Royal Enfield Classic 500. She is the best toy. The only bike I dream about at a veteran age is a Harley Softail , an Indian Chief 2021... or a Vespa HPE 300 (always keeping the Classic 500 if I had space in the garage),😎 Your videos always taste to me like my last 2020 holidays at Lagos beaches. Thank you.
Thanks, Fernando. I agree that it's best to keep bikes simple :)
Thanks for the video better a real world commentary.
1) The gears are too close, 6th gear on this bike is like 4th on my other bikes. (750cc, 462cc, 800cc)
2) The rear brake is light compared to my other bikes (even the Himalayan!)
3) The fuel warning screen comes on without a DTE. It already has DTE, covers it up with the new screen. The two bars on the fuel indicator isn't specific enough.
Thanks for your feedback. All valid points… as far as I can recall. I actually sold the bike a year ago and now have a Speed Twin, which largely addresses many of the issues I had with the Trident. Ride safe😊
You raised an idea in my head: What about a Trident 900? Mixing all the best of the Trident 660, the Speed Twin and the Street Triple R. In concrete: Don't make the Trident 900 a race bike, just 120 PS, more than 90 NM, Brembo M4 or better Brakes, nice Forks and Shock (but not race track Öhlins) - and the modern classic look, a mix of speed twin and Trident 660. That all together would be my bike of choice.
Right now I do ride a Street Triple R (MY 2020).
On addition: After thinking about my proposal above, it sounded to me "like a Yamaha XSR900 - but made by Triumph" so most likely beeing just nicer in all the details, which in my opinion makes the difference between liking your bike and loving it.
That would be a perfect bike! Are you reading this, Triumph? :)
@@RocketMan_Moto We both know it will be at a different price. Would you be willing to pay ~ 10,5k Euros for a Trident 900? I defenetifly would!
Absolutely. Especially when I see the new Speed Triple here in Portugal starts at €18,250 🤦♂️
@@RocketMan_Moto After getting my Triple R last year + having read the rumours about the upcoming Speed Triple RS 2021 - I was thinking about how nice a 900x between Street and Speed Triple would be (as 180 HP is clearly not what I want/desire). But with you video above of the Trident - and its beauty and advantages towards the Street Triple (R or RS) - I take my wish of s Street+Speed Triple 900 back. It would by still too racy, and most likely also too expensive (13k++). So a Trident 900, with a clear road focus, but a little more umpf than the Trident 660 - would be wonderful. Close to the already very good Speed Twin 1200 - just I prefer the classic+modern look (Trident) any for sure a Triple over a Twin.
Preload is for setting SAG, nothing to do with being compliant. If you are heavier than average up the preload an extra 2-3 notches, you will get a longer compression stroke which will give you more rear travel ( if the bike needs it or can use it) and you may get a better ride on poorer surfaces. At the end of the day though it is how that shock is damped. When they do a shock for the Trident get a Wilbers 640 made for your weight and riding preference, you won’t know yourself.
Thanks for the tip. I’ll look into it😊👍
Thank you for the wonderful follow up review. I have the Trident in Sapphire Black and found that adding the round bar-end mirrors significantly added to the aesthetics. I am not particularly impressed by the sound of the engine, as the whoosh seems more like cylinders suffering from asthma, but then that''s a subjective thing. If you get the chance, please test the new Ducati monster, and share a comparative review. While the two would not fall in the same category by cc size or price, the extra hp may be a remedy for what the Trident lacks. Best regards.
Thank you, Fereydoun :) I have the new Monster on my to-do list!
I agree with so much of your appraisal. I removed my rear pegs looks so much better. the ride is very harsh on bumpy roads I may have to invest in a rear shock when more reasonably priced options arrive. Mine is same colour , the red is growing on me, not made my mind up about the tail tidy options.Levers not decided upon yet ,either still running in which is a pain limiting the revs as it's so keen to wizz.Cheers
Thanks. Nice to know you share my opinions. The lever swap is worthwhile, imo, and so cheap (about £35), that if you don't like them you can just chalk it up to experience :)
Great video, thks for the honest opinions.. I'm from Portimão, where do you live in Algarve ?
Thanks, Wellinton. You might like to see the video on why I sold the bike here: ruclips.net/video/ZB2SIbVie9A/видео.html
We are near Albufeira :)
"I got rid of my 120 hp street triple precisely because i was tired of going everywhere 100 miles an hour" the funniest part in the video. 😂😂😂😂
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Love your reviews! I noticed you have a clear tank guard. Where did you get that? Please share a link. All good points you noticed even some I haven’t. Are the brakes a deal breaker?I like the Street triple brakes too. Keep up the great work!!
Thank you. I made the tank protector from a sheet of 3M ScotchGard. Cheap and (almost) invisible😊
@@RocketMan_Moto Perfect! Love the idea! Ordered.
Man that looks like a fun bike! I’m a new rider and bought an iron 883 Harley Davidson as my first bike last October, as a Harley Davidson is the only “real” bike to have living in Tulsa Oklahoma.🤷🏻♂️ Or so I thought. With 50 hp and a wet weight of 560lbs I it’s not a fast bike. I recently put a stage 1 on it that really spiced it up a very noticeable amount. So I’m very glad for that. But as a newer rider with limited experience I’ve never ridden a naked bike or anything with any real power, even 80hp. I also knew absolutely nothing about Triumph when I purchased my iron. I was simply urged by everyone to “get yourself a Harley Davidson! That’s a real bike!” Don’t get me wrong I have a blast on my Harley but I wish I had tried out some different bikes before making the plunge. Of course being in Tulsa Oklahoma there isn’t a Triumph dealer until I get to Oklahoma City, about 2-3 hrs away. So between picking out a bike and the inevitable regular service of said bike, it might not be the most practical decision. But man, they make some killer looking and performing bikes from what I can gather anyway! At least I have a bike that can do all the around town duties and take a 1.5 hr trip on the highway with no issues whatsoever. So that’s nice because there are plenty of highways around here.
I’m long winded, sorry
Lol, nice story, Robby. Thanks :) Weight is everything and I personally prefer small, light bikes. I recently swapped my Trident for a Triumph Speed Twin; it's more powerful (100hp), but especially more torquey, a bit like a HD. Only problem is, it weighs about 30lbs more than the Trident and you can feel the difference. I would encourage you to try a bike like the Trident, if only to feel how nimble it is.
I’ve thoroughly enjoyed watching your video and your thoughts on the 660 trident. I’ve had mine for two months now and have a couple of niggles having covered 2500 miles. (the sheep in the Lake District wave as I pass now). In saying that I’ve cured most of the niggles and like yourself I opted for the TEC clutch and brake lever as the reach for the clutch was to great. I was looking for a tail tidy but the looks of the number plate hugger has grown on me and looks mint with a baby number plate. Looks more in keeping with the bike than the road legal one (sorry Dibble but it’s purely cosmetic, honestly).
The seat is quite hard for my boney old @rse but a gel touring cushion has overcome that.
Again partly cosmetic but thinking about stone damage I added a triumph logoed radiator cover in black, looks good. Not so good and as you say is the red plastic side radiator cover, plus the red flashing on the front mudguard, cheap looking. I’ll look at replacing the side radiator cover if and when something kinder to the eye comes out but I’ve replaced the front mudguard with gloss black.
Spent a fortune on a “cheap” bike which I know is unrecoverable but I love the thing.
To Many plus points to list
Thanks for that. I've had silver radiator cowls on order for many weeks, but they're still not here :( The red 'L plate' on the front mudguard had to go, but it was easy to vinyl over. I agree about the number plate: the bike would obviously look better without it, but I'm not 100% sure that a traditional under-seat tailtidy would look any better. Ride safe :)
I know you have moved on from the Trident, but I really enjoy your observations which are really fair and mostly spot on, I owned a Street twin (2017) and now have a RE 650cc Interceptor, which I am loathe to give up as it harkens back to those halcyon days when I was riding 1965 tt specials. I can't afford a Speed twin so the price of the Trident puts it in reach as a second bike, You review is encouraging as I have heard from other it is somewhat anemic. I will go test ride one with all this in mind, thanks.
The Trident is much, much more potent than the Interceptor, so I'm sure you will feel the difference :)
@@RocketMan_Moto yes, with 45-50 HP ( I have up tuned my Interceptor), there is no comparison there, and it (the Trident) would be my fix for what I used to have with a bit more moderation than my reflashed hyper tuned MT07, I'm getting old now :)
My friend (who appears in a couple of my videos on the Speed Twin) is in his late sixties and loved his Trident. He has decided to give up motorcycling all together, though, so has now sold it. As I said in one of my 'Why I sold my Trident' video, it's the best bike I've ever sold :)
Great video and nice to keep it down to earth. Theres enough hyperbole on the trident already! Nice scenery for the ride too. Subscribed!
Thanks :) I imagine I'm advising a friend, the good and the bad. I'm pleased you like the format, and thank you for the sub :)
@@RocketMan_Moto that's very interesting, I'm trying to iron out my 'style'. I think it will come naturally in time. Looking forward to your next review :)
Wow, I thought the logo was painted. I reserved the same model. Does the logo looks cheap? Like it's going to peel off at some point?
No, don’t worry. It’s a good quality decal. Just a bit thick. But you only notice close up😊
Booked my trident! Quick query..is the matte color better to go for or the gloss variants? Can matt be wrapped to protect paint? Pretty confused here!
Congrats, great bike! Matt paint looks fantastic, but it's a real pain to keep clean. Seems to attract all sorts of stains :(
@@RocketMan_Moto agreed...but the matte is soo sweet. Do you plan to do a ppf on this? I've got Triumph folks to check with their detailing guys too!
I watched all your TRIUMPH Trident 660 videos and I liked them all. Being English not my native language, I like very much your clear and articulated speaking. It makes it easy to follow your explanations and narrations. I agree with some of your "hates", and now after owning the TRIUMPH Trident 660 for a while I have to say that our most "hate" is the seat, which can get very uncomfortable after 1 - 1.5 hours of driving, at least for my wife. It gets painful and we are thinking in letting it rebuild for better suiting. What are your experiences ?
Thanks :) I haven't really had any issues with the seat, but that may be because I usually ride for less than 1.5 hours before taking a break (lunch...). When you refer to your wife, are you talking about her riding behind you as a passenger? I have never tried riding two-up on the Trident; the rear seat looks too small and I wouldn't expect my wife to sit on it for anything other than very short trips, say less than 10 minutes. I think there are better bikes available if you regularly take a passenger. Ride safe :)
@@RocketMan_Moto Actually the TRIUMPH Trident 660 is the motorbike of my wife and she drives it. Usually when we are on tour we plan breaks about every 1 hour, but that does not change anything about the driver seat to be uncomfortable for her. I agree with you, the rear seat does not really work for a passenger ...
Great Ux video. Thanks. I am in a phase to purchase such a bike and Trident is one of the options. The second option is Yamaha XSR700. Would you be able to comment if you considered such an option?
Thanks! I looked at the Yamaha, but didn't ride it, because the Trident has a much better quality feel to it.
I'm 6'4 and I'm thinking about going for one of these over the mt07 or even the new hornet. Honestly, the hornet might have more power and torque but the looks are really not my cup of tea and from what I've heard, size wise, the trident should fit me better. Obviously the Trident with 10 bhp more would be the sweet spot but I'll take ergonomics over power. Do you have any input on ergonomics for taller riders such as myself? Or even other motorcycles that would be a better bet?
I’m nearly 6’2 and found the Trident more roomy than the Hornet I tried 2 weeks ago
@@RocketMan_Moto probably the best for me then. Thank you for your input! Keep up the good work
Thanks👍
Enjoyed your video! Seems like a nice "light" bike to add to the 890 R Duke in the garage....
Very light👍😊
My absolute pet hate is finding neutral. The preload is setup for plus 85kg rider so there is opportunities to adjust the preload for lighter riders.
True🤨
What a great narration your voice is smooth.
Thank you😊
Did you try the New Ducati Monster? I know this one is a little bit more expensive, but could be a nice alternative, right?
It does look good, but unfortunately the Ducati dealer is a long way from me.
How’s it feel to ride on the correct side of the road? 😁
I agree that the red is out of place. I like the raised letters. The large logo is the best scheme but there’s only one glossy finish with this logo... leaving you with red highlights. Manufacturers, Please lay off the matte black everything. One model is fine but like KTM if you make them all ugly won’t be interested.
I like the tail... there is only so much you can do if you want to stop the weather from ruining your finish. Either a big plastic post sticking out like many others or this more subdued version allowing the seat to appear to float... if anything I’d prefer a full fender covering the tire under there in black to keep it as hidden as possible.
I hope they fix the things you’ve mentioned before I buy one next season.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose. Maybe next year we'll get a Trident R??
Agree with the full rear fender idea!!! Keeps the shock and under seat area clean too.
At the risk of flying in the face of popular opinion, although you rate those michelins, (so does everyone,) they are quite firm, so i wouldn't rule out a tyre change to help ride quality. However trying to find objective info on tyre ride quality is tricky, due to the obsession with 'ultimate' grip and track performance.
I agree - the Michelins don't help the firm ride :)
Good review, very nice , what is your mileage after three months? For city riding 80 hp is good. Thanks
I agree absolutely that 80hp is enough, but it doesn't stop me wanting more, lol. Mileage is about 1400km at the moment.
Great video and I agree with all your points having had mine for a couple of months now. Only thing is I don't quite agree on comparing the breaks to those of other bikes in the Triumph range given the price differential.
You're right, James - comparing the Trident's 'cheap' brakes with Stylemas isn't very fair. I just wish we were able to configure our own bikes; I would be happy to put an extra €1500 in to get some top-level brakes & suspension. Maybe a Trident R next year?? :)
Informative video as always, What I am really interested in is Triumph using the trident platform for a mid range adventure bike...(as illustrated in their background image at a recent presentation) now if they can pull that off!
I agree that would make a great bike. Adventure bikes have become too cumbersome and expensive of late. Back to basics à la Royal Enfield is the way to go, imo :)
Hello RocketMan, I'm Valiant and I also own a Trident. The dealer recently installed the Shift Assist. It seems hard or there's a tug on lower gears like 2nd or 3rd. Is there a tip you can share in regards to RPM for example before I use the shift assist for Up/down? Much appreciate any advise you can share. Thanks!
I haven't encountered this problem, and find the Trident's quick shifter among the best I've tried on any bike. That said, as with all QS, you do need to keep the gearbox under load when shifting. It's counter intuitive, but if you release the throttle, or don't have enough revs, then the shift is jerky. Hope this helps :)
It was informative video..thks for tat..👏
I am planning to upgrade from basic commuter bike ( ie. Single cylinder 150 cc and 16 bhp ) to trident 660..
my prospective second bike would also be my last bike.
could u plz clarify on braking..after hearing from u abt it's average braking.. I am not getting enough confidence to go further.. I wish to pass on this bike to my son 15 years down the line..so I have to make a right choice and be double sure abt my hard earned money..and I can't stretch beyond this budget..plz suggest..
Don't let my comments on the brakes put you off, they are perfectly adequate and way better than, say, those on our scooter. It's just that once you've tried big (and very expensive) Brembos, it's difficult going back. The Trident's brakes are just as good as those on the Honda CB650R or Yamaha MT07. It's a great all-round bike :)
Few horses more and better brakes leads to Monster 821... What you think? Did you ride it? I am concerned about the large turning circle and the need for specialist (expensive) valve/timing service
No, I haven't tried the Monster yet
I had the loan of a Trident for the day while my Striple was being serviced. Firstly mine did have an adjustably brake lever. I would agree with most of what you said adding that I thought the handling was good, excellent grip from the Michelin tyres. I only rode the bike for a few hours from Alicante to my house over my favourite 'hooligan'' road...Oh! fist time I rode a bike with fly by wire, found the throttle a bit hesitant. Nice easy bike to ride...would I swop the Striple..no I wouldn't.... I just love my Street Triple.
I miss the extra power of the Street, but on the whole prefer the more relaxed riding position and low-down torque of the Trident. It would be nice to have both!
@@RocketMan_Moto Know what you mean, sometimes you just want to ''Go for a Ride''
Having owned a number of Triumphs over that last few years one "feature" on all of them was the fan cutting in regularly when poodling around town or in traffic and that was in the UK. Does your Trident do the same thing, bearing in mind that you're in the South of Portugal? I now live in the South of France and would love to own a Trident, but I'd need to be reassured that it won't have the fan running all the time in summer.
I don't think the fan on my Trident kicked in once, tbh. I sold it a couple of weeks ago, but we had a fair bit of hot weather and I don't recall hearing the fan.
Thanks, that's good to know.
Blimey, you change your bike more often than I change my underwear! Lol.
I've just had a tally up and I'm on my 12th bike in 46 years of biking. I've currently got a new Honda CB500X, it's a nice bike but it's a huge step down from my 1050 Speed Triple that I had in the UK up until I moved here last October, so I think that I need something with slightly more "go" in it.
Anyway, great youtube channel, mate. 😎👍
Thanks, Robert. I tell my wife it's to keep the channel going, but really that's just man maths - I like treating myself to new toys :)
Man maths sounds very plausible!
Looking forward to the grand unveiling of your next bike. 😎🏍
I hope you (all) approve. I sometimes think I might have built it up too much, lol :)
Hello RocketMan,
Nice video, I'm just obtaining muy A2 license and I think I'll choose The Triumph's Tridente bit I wonder if, like you've said in the video that the Tridents need 15+ HP, what about the Street Triple S (you Gould limit for A2 and then you'll hace 95hp) what do you think?
Good question. You look a lot younger than me, so I'd maybe say go for the Street Triple. The design is a bit older, but it's got a lot more power. If you like modernity and gadgets, though, I'd choose the Trident. Both are excellent bikes, so either way you won't be disappointed :)
@@RocketMan_Moto Thanks for the information! I'm 40 years old (I hace to update my profile Pic, hehe)
I don't know exactly what I choose (I like the Trident's design but Street Triple S' performance)...
Until I obtain the license I've time to think about...
Thanks a lote for tour feedback and videos
It is a matter of personal preference, I think. I agree on the brake and levels (at least make both adjustable). Don't really care about storage (bottom of my concern). I am not a fan of tail tidy on any bike due to safety concern (Trident looks perfect as it). I like red, or more visible color, in fact not enough, not a fan of total blackout bike (most bikers do), again for safety as bikes are already dangerous being invisible on street. Overall I am more concerned about safety over look.
I agree re. tail tidy - I doubt it will make the bike look any better, is (slightly) less safe and will probably make the bike more difficult to sell. I swap bikes every year and stock is definitely what buyers like. Ride safe :)
Beautiful bike at a stunning location. Useful info too as I'm looking for a new toy myself and the 660 is pulling me in.
Thanks, Steven. Not to burst your bubble, but as you may have seen in my later videos, I actually sold the Trident after 5 months for a Speed Twin. The Trident is a great 'little' bike, but I wanted something a bit meatier :)
I’m thinking about getting this bike and possibly removing that arm and getting a tail tidy. Could you post the link to it? I want to see if it’s available in the US. Thanks!
There aren't any tail tidies available yet, but the best ones are usually made by Evotech Performance in the UK. They have one up on their website, but it's not available yet. Hope this helps :)
Honest review love from India. But I'm confused whether to buy or not? What you suggest?
Thanks. Well, it all comes down to personal preference, of course, but honestly, the more I ride the Trident, the more I like it. I usually get bored with bikes after a few months, but not this one :)
@@RocketMan_Moto thanx❤️
What a refreshing review, congrats mate! Top quality! If you could help me out, I owned a 2013 street triple r, the. switched it for a 2016 daytona sold my bike in 2019. I’ve been looking to get back on two wheels. Do you think the trident is good for that or will I miss the power on the daytona or striple? It’s either this or the striple for me, so any input is appreciated. Awesome channel!
Thank you, Midlife :) As you may have seen in my Street Triple vs Trident video, I actually prefer the Trident to the Street I owned a couple of years ago. That said, it's probably because I'm getting older and prefer the more relaxed riding position ad low-down torque of the Trident. I do miss the extra top-end power of the Street, though. My very first bike was a Daytona, but I don't miss that as it really had to be revved to extract the power. A Trident R with some Öhlins and an extra 20hp would be perfect! :)
@@RocketMan_Moto thank you ! It seems we’ve had a similar motorcycle journey lol. I also think I could live with a few less horses in favor of more comfort and the feeling of having spent a more reasonable amount of money on my bike. Now it only comes down to convincing the wife😅 maybe you could make a video on that as well haha Wish you much success on youtube my friend, subbed!
Thanks! I’m lucky in that my wife knows next to nothing about bikes. When I swapped my red Honda CB500X for a red BMW F900XR, she didn’t even notice😂
I would worry about getting a naked bike again. I remember the pain from fighting against the wind blast. Would be interested to know if anyone has come across an effective bikini fairing to take the pain out of motorway riding. Trouble is, it may ruin the overall look, which is a large part of the bike's appeal.
I agree that looks are everything on the Trident and that's why, after much consideration, I'm probably not going to mess with the swing arm mounted plate/tail tidy. I'm not worried about wind blast as (a) the wind is warm down here (b) the roads aren't good enough to get up much speed, lol :)
Hello Mr. RocketMan, have you already replaced the rear shock? I've tried Trident yesterday; it's a really good bike I'd like to buy, but the rear shock is little bit disappointing. I'm ready to replace it when I buy and a suitable solution would be strongly appreciated. Have a great day! M.
Hi, Martin. No, not yet. I am waiting to see what becomes available. I like the idea of an Öhlins shock, but they're very expensive. Maybe Nitron in the UK??
@@RocketMan_Moto seems to be promising... (Y) www.thetriumphforum.com/threads/trident-660-suspension.28848/
Very interesting. Pity they go with turquoise springs, though😬
Aww, Three months with your bike and I have been waiting for that for mine to arrive in the country (Australia)
Hang on, it's worth waiting for :)
It is worth waiting for. I have to agree with 95% of Rocketman's points. The trident gets me to work and back and its still great fun for the Kangaroo Valley to Macquarie Pass loop (NSW). Totally lacks cred in the Robbo Pie shop carpark where all the big, expensive and pretty bikes go to show off. But I can keep up with them through the run (well, mostly). :-)
Seems to me this Trident has everything going for it. Glad to see you’re happy with it. With an additional 10-20hp it would be in Ducati Monster 821(?) territory in terms of power. Was this a bike you considered at anytime or is the Duc less well mannered?
I never really considered the Monster, tbh, mainly because the nearest dealer is a 3-hour drive from where I live.
Im from Algarve too, i saw you on the road the other day. I just got my 2021 YAMAHA MT-07. If we come across any other day maybe you can do a comparison video
That would be awesome. I have been waiting to try the new MT07. Are you happy with it? :)
@@RocketMan_Moto i haven’t pushed it to hard yet, I have only 320+/- km, I’m still in breaking phase.
So far I’m very happy with it
@@darciocandido7059 eu tenho a 07 ice fluo 2020 ,.. e te garanto , que na categoria , é a moto mais divertida , derivado ao facto de ser leve e seu carater de motor muito reativo,.. e tem um torque bem elastico caso o queiramos explorar mais , no sendo de todo nessessario pra andar normal, coisa algo dificil ,..lolkkkkkkkkk,.. mas se consegue,.. tanto se puxa uma 4- marcha ate +180 kmh ou se anda em 6- marcha a 70 ,..80 kmh , moto polivalente ,mas a cidade e circuito urbano é a sua praia ,..resumindo é boa ,.. e com um escape full,.. fica ainda melhor ,..mas muito mais viciante ,....lol
@@MrRui33333 sim sem dúvida, já tenho um Akrapovic carbono e um filtro de ar BMC, já está com um cantar mais bonito. Estou muito contente com a Mota mesmo
@@darciocandido7059 asserio !! que top,.. e já agora notastes algumas diferenças , principalmente em relaçao a questao do filtro,.. mas tbm do escape , que por sinal ainda é o meu preferido pra este modelo, mas eu optei por outro , por causa do preço , com muita pena pois esse que tu meteu é simplesmente brutal e tbm talvez o melhor em termos de ganhos em potencia ,.. ainda assim eu meti um roaditalia thunder carbon e sem db killer faz realmente diferença, é mais reativa ,.. melhor arranque ,.. e curiosamente aguenta melhor as marchas , mesmo rodando devagar , ou seja , ganha um pouco mais de binario , concerteza ,..e tbm queria vir a meter um filtro,..e mais umas coisinhas ,...a nivel estetica ,..de resto a moto é o que tu ja sabes e sentes ,.. muito divertida ,.. gostosa ,.. bem mais facil de domar e dominar que outras ,...e que ate permite emendar alguns erros ,..corrigir trajetorias etç,..é uma moto ate algo simples mas muito honesta e super divertida ! e ,... viciante tbm,...kkkk
Great review. Thank you. Only another three months before mine arrives… I have a nice little stack of extras over and above the triumph catalogue contents :-)
Wow, still three months to wait? Where are you?
Uk, Scotland. I want a sapphire black and they can’t get me one before the end of July.
Frustrating, but such high demand proves what a good bike it is😊
@@RocketMan_Moto Indeed. I’ll just have to enjoy the ST RS until delivery :-)
Ooh, going straight from the RS?😬 I sold mine in 2019, but had two ‘disappointing’ bikes in between, so the Trident felt great. Hope you’re not too underwhelmed...
Interesting mix of minus & plus points, RM. For me, having only 80 odd bhp is a plus, because as well as being perfect for just diddling around on, it allows me to ride the Trident like I stole it, when my mood & the conditions are right, without exceeding my limited riding talent. I believe the triple engine with a QS could even deliver more smiles on 'maximum attack' than an MT-07. And the price allows for mild customisation like adjustable levers and a must-have Evotech tail tidy. Still waiting for your thoughts on the QS - when will you fit it?
You must have missed my Mods & Tweaks Part 2 video. I talk about the QS there👍😊
@@RocketMan_Moto Nope, I never miss a video. Just a tad forgetful! Watched it again & taken onboard your v positive comments re the QS.
Yes, as I said, one of the best shifters I’ve tried. Thanks for watching the vids😊
Agree it would be nice to see a Trident R, with better brakes, suspension and around 90-100hp, like what Yamaha has with the xrs700 and xrs900
Agreed :)
Great review man
Thank you😊
How do you feel about riding on the hiway on short trips (300-400) miles
Nakeds will never give you much protection on the highway, but in terms of power and comfort, the Trident is good enough, if not the best
I have an option of buying sv650 with blue frame for 7000€, and sapphire black trident for 8400€.
Even though the sv is a really great offer, it doesn't look nearly as good as the trident.
Really torn up by the choice...
Can you help me decide? Thanks!
Well, personally, I don't care for the looks of the Suzuki, so that alone seals it for me. Also, the SV is heavier and less powerful. Suzukis have a 'cheap' image, whereas Triumphs are seen as classier... Just my opinion, enjoy which ever you go for :)
@@RocketMan_Moto I've been convincing myself that the sv is good enough, because i got myself a discount (its a 2022 model), versus trident having a regular price.
So, I can go with the sv and hope it will grow on me, or buy the trident and be happy right away :)
Long story short, im buying the trident!
Thanks for the reply, love the channel
Good call. You know you would have regretted getting the SV😉
Great review, I watched your f900xr review before I went with money in my hand to purchase r version. I thought you were to rough on bmw but when I went to a dealership, checked the bike, I was really disappointed with it so I left in 15 min from there. Now I’m thinking about Trident and there is your excellent review on it😂😂😂 We have pretty similar taste 😂😂😂
The BMW looks so sexy, but it's dull to ride... and expensive. I enjoy my Trident far more and it was nearly half the price :)
4:45 You are aware that every bike in the Trident's class other than the Honda CBR650, (which has the same power-output as the Trident) are weaker than your bike? I think perhaps that more horsepower from that size engine would make it harder to ride with a narrower band from which to get at the torque (higher revs)? Just a thought. There are more powerful bikes out there; they tend to have bigger engines, or be built to a different brief. or be costlier. Or all of the above..
Yes, I am aware of that. The Trident's low-down torque makes the bike a winner, imo :)
@@RocketMan_Moto Sorry, I realise my comment sounded very snooty; didn't mean for that to happen!
No problem😊
Very nice video as usual... You can do some post processing on the video to clear some of the shakiness...it is something that even iMovie does :D... About street riding I am with you... Full throttle, doing drag races with pizza delivery guys at the stop lights and without entering the ilegal speed zone?! Sign me in :D
Haha, thanks :) I do need to look into image stabilisation, because other than that, I thought the new camera position made a nice change from all my other videos :)
@@RocketMan_Moto totally agree... This is my preferred camera position by a longshot. Less stabilization from the rider neck, but somehow it feels a better angle of vision...
Why is it not good on a dual carriageway? It seems as though the Trident could sit at 60-70mph no problem with only clean air hitting you..? I currently ride a XMax300 and that is perfectly fine on motorways even and it “only” has 27bhp.
I was referring to our 9hp Honda Vision, not the Trident😊