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  • There's a fire onboard flight 747 and it is beginning to burn through the plane’s wiring. The smoke is getting thicker, and the passengers are literally choking to death. It's a race against time!
    What caused the fire on board South African Airlines flight 747?
    Mayday: Air Disaster - From Season 5 Episode 4 "Fanning The Flames": A South African Airlines 747 is on a routine flight from Taiwan to Johannesburg when the cabin begins filling with smoke. As passengers struggle to breathe, crew members battle a fire in the cargo hold. Known as a combi, the aircraft is equipped to carry both passengers and cargo on the main level. There are 159 people and six large palettes of cargo on board.
    Less than an hour from home, the pilots must land their damaged aircraft - but they are over the Indian Ocean and the closest airport is 300 kilometres away on the island of Mauritius. The pilots attempt a rare manoeuvre to ventilate the aircraft. They descend to 14,000 feet where they instruct the cabin crew to open the doors. At that altitude, passengers can breathe the outside air - and the difference in pressure will clear the smoke.
    The pilots remain in contact with air traffic control in Mauritius, but even as the captain is being briefed about emergency landing procedures, the flight disappears without a trace. The next day, an oil slick, floating wreckage, and eight bodies confirm the worst. "
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    Mayday: Air Disaster is a dramatic non-fiction series that investigates high-profile air disasters to uncover how and why they happened. Mayday: Air Disaster follows survivors, family members of crash victims and transportation safety investigators as they piece together the evidence of the causes of major accidents. So climb into the cockpit for an experience you won’t soon forget.
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Комментарии • 326

  • @MaydayAirDisaster
    @MaydayAirDisaster  2 года назад +28

    What caused the fire on board South African Airlines flight 747?

    • @LucidDreamer54321
      @LucidDreamer54321 2 года назад +13

      I'm guessing the fire was caused by a combination of oxygen, heat, and flammable material.

    • @greggstrasser5791
      @greggstrasser5791 2 года назад +1

      @@LucidDreamer54321
      They should have made the 747 very cold. 🛫🔥🛬

    • @fawamaco1848
      @fawamaco1848 2 года назад +1

      @@greggstrasser5791 No since oxygen causes fire to grow faster so it would be hot at least I heard that in one of these episodes.

    • @greggstrasser5791
      @greggstrasser5791 2 года назад +5

      @@fawamaco1848
      Lucid Dreamer made a firefighter joke... it’s a joke.

    • @ahmedadventures1999
      @ahmedadventures1999 2 года назад +5

      I think the fire was caused by the computer batteries and the packaging they were housed in.

  • @flightmedic7634
    @flightmedic7634 2 года назад +269

    Being trapped inside a metal tube while zooming through the sky in a raging fire is about as nightmarish as it gets 😬

    • @Backroad_Junkie
      @Backroad_Junkie 2 года назад +12

      Worse, nowhere to land. Less of a nightmare if there's a chance to find a landing strip, but over water...

    • @mattskustomkreations
      @mattskustomkreations 2 года назад +16

      You forgot about the vast ocean too. And in the dark.

    • @LucidDreamer54321
      @LucidDreamer54321 2 года назад +2

      It is almost as nightmarish as being in the United States while Joe Biden is president.

    • @flightmedic7634
      @flightmedic7634 2 года назад +3

      @@LucidDreamer54321 I'm not but someone is copying my posts and reusing them.

    • @janspup6232
      @janspup6232 2 года назад +5

      @@flightmedic7634 it's kinda flattering in a way. I think the final plunge of Air Alaska 261 is particularly horrific, inverted and spinning little a top, thankfully it was over quick and you would be gone in about 12 microseconds after impact, just not enough time for your brain to process any extra pain.

  • @kleopatra6234
    @kleopatra6234 2 года назад +60

    This is evidence that cargo should never be put onboard planes with passengers. Period.
    It's bad enough that there's luggage.

    • @nerysghemor5781
      @nerysghemor5781 2 года назад +11

      Or you need to design the cargo hold better to suppress fires.

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 2 года назад +8

      it's even worse that there's passengers

    • @jerichobeach2967
      @jerichobeach2967 2 года назад +2

      @@adotintheshark4848 lol

    • @brigidtheirish
      @brigidtheirish Год назад +2

      This is evidence that planes need better fire suppression systems.

  • @crazycain1984
    @crazycain1984 2 года назад +78

    Being a big aviation NERD I Love this show. Seen every episode. This disaster is similar to the Valu-jet incident that crashed into Florida everglades because of fire onboard. Horrifying to think about cuz not being able to escape the heat & smoke since you're thousands of feet up moving 100s of mph.. Wow! Can only imagine

    • @MisTracy39TheVeganLady
      @MisTracy39TheVeganLady 2 года назад +5

      The only thing to do is repent for your sins and hope you wake up in Heaven! 🙏🏽

    • @davidmendez5426
      @davidmendez5426 2 года назад +4

      That makes 2 of us 😂

    • @pattidale7968
      @pattidale7968 2 года назад +2

      I can't even imagine!!

    • @Dion-rz3fz
      @Dion-rz3fz 2 года назад +2

      @@MisTracy39TheVeganLady Trust in Jesus as your Savior, repent, and KNOW you will wake up in Heaven!!!!!!

    • @Brock_Landers
      @Brock_Landers Год назад +1

      I lived in Florida when the ValuJet aircraft went down in the Everglades and I remember that disaster being on the news and seeing the wreckage. I also remember that that particular aircraft went down after it caught fire due to expired oxygen generating canisters that were stored in the cargo hold that were activated by cargo shifting. The boxes which contained the oxygen canisters were labeled as "CoMat" or company material. Those canisters were NOT supposed to be hauled onboard any aircraft unless they were completely discharged beforehand, and obviously they were not. That aircraft, along with 110 souls were lost due to negligence. Hence why ValuJet no longer exists, along with many other "value airline" companies. Cost cutting practices have doomed many other airlines...just look at RyanAir and the many complaints that were made against it.

  • @Brock_Landers
    @Brock_Landers Год назад +10

    I honestly couldn't begin to imagine how gut wrenching it must be to do your best to assist an aircraft with an emergency onboard, that you know has multiple souls onboard, and then have your calls go unanswered suddenly. I know that I would break down in extreme emotions. That's such a sad moment for an air traffic controller knowing that the aircraft that was under your control has gone down with the loss of many lives.

    • @Benji-jj2bg
      @Benji-jj2bg 3 месяца назад

      thats because your weak....

  • @sg7772
    @sg7772 2 года назад +75

    I have heard the actual CVR/ATC and its heartbreaking but the pilot remained professional the entire time and tried his best!

    • @sg7772
      @sg7772 2 года назад

      @@LucidDreamer54321 what do mean? I don't have any channels..

    • @greggstrasser5791
      @greggstrasser5791 2 года назад

      @@LucidDreamer54321
      Did they ban your MAP channel?

    • @sg7772
      @sg7772 2 года назад +1

      @@LucidDreamer54321 u can post on utube without having ur own channel

    • @LucidDreamer54321
      @LucidDreamer54321 2 года назад +1

      @jillian goldstein Really? So you don’t have a channel called “jillian goldstein”?

    • @sg7772
      @sg7772 2 года назад +3

      @@LucidDreamer54321 I have no clue what ur talking about! That's my name I watch videos I comment I don't put up videos

  • @alneal100
    @alneal100 2 года назад +12

    RIP Roy Truman 1942-2019. Underwater salvage expert. From South Shields, England (a Geordie).

  • @timnewton9610
    @timnewton9610 Год назад +8

    I couldn’t imagine being in that position God Bless those people

  • @NaturalBeauty214
    @NaturalBeauty214 2 года назад +55

    These documentaries are put together so well ❤️

  • @kewlztertc5386
    @kewlztertc5386 2 года назад +26

    "you'll be much more comfortable once we've complete this procedure"

    • @Kazwens
      @Kazwens 2 года назад +10

      Ah yes comfortable, meaning no longer in pain and suffering.. but it’s not what they thought it meant

  • @NotMe-dg5ts
    @NotMe-dg5ts 2 года назад +43

    14:44 if someone can sneak an atomic bomb onto a plane the airport really need to rethink their security

    • @EaglesFan202
      @EaglesFan202 2 года назад +6

      Really an atomic bomb 😂

    • @MegaLokopo
      @MegaLokopo 2 года назад +6

      If it was a nuclear bomb, I'm sure even in those days, we would have noticed.

    • @NotMe-dg5ts
      @NotMe-dg5ts 2 года назад

      @studio732jrl2 why is that

    • @MegaLokopo
      @MegaLokopo 2 года назад +2

      @studio732jrl2 to be fair, you could sneak an atomic/nuclear bomb onto a plane. They are very small nowadays.

    • @MegaLokopo
      @MegaLokopo 2 года назад +1

      @studio732jrl2 Fyi RUclips just shadow banned you, your comments aren't showing up anymore outside of the initial notification field. I could only read half your last comment. But the fbi did an independant secret audit of the tsa and found that they could sneak in all sorts of weapons including in theory a nuclear bomb, and after they completed the audit they went public with the report of how bad the tsa did at finding what they were able to sneak in.

  • @motionsick
    @motionsick 2 года назад +16

    Never seen this one. Thought I'd watched every episode 2 or 3 times. Awesome.

  • @arianamaria_
    @arianamaria_ 2 года назад +21

    There’s something bittersweet about the curiosity of humans that we would go to work, spending an obscene amount of money that almost certainly wasn’t fiscally responsible, making technological leaps and bounds all to give the families closure about how and why their loved ones died. We are both beautiful and hopeless creatures that only ever strive to understand and love

    • @capchemist
      @capchemist 3 месяца назад +1

      Understand that the safety investigation takes place to improve the safety of all aircraft

  • @rosealexander9007
    @rosealexander9007 2 года назад +40

    They called this airplane Helderberg. The Helderberg caught on fire. It’s kind of Ironic because it sounds similar to the Hindenburg that also caught on fire.

    • @CRD-hi6vk
      @CRD-hi6vk 2 года назад +2

      I guess it’s time to start using different names for aircraft, huh? Names beginning with “H” and ending in “berg” aren’t working out so well.

    • @rosealexander9007
      @rosealexander9007 2 года назад +1

      @@CRD-hi6vk I agree

    • @KingK2205
      @KingK2205 Год назад +1

      wow

    • @CYMotorsport
      @CYMotorsport 4 месяца назад +2

      The Helderberg has its name from Afrikaans language which means something else when translated. The Hindenburg was named after the late German president. So I mean, I guess in English they sound similar but literally they couldn’t be more different in their own language

    • @rosealexander9007
      @rosealexander9007 4 месяца назад

      @@CYMotorsport I see

  • @HobbyOrganist
    @HobbyOrganist 2 года назад +30

    Soon as they said there were computer batteries I thought of the ones we hear about in the news that for no reason burst into flames, but this crash predates that kind of battery I think.

    • @marylut6077
      @marylut6077 2 года назад

      Lithium batteries are dangerous, the partitions between the cells are thin and easily punctured, if punctured they create high energy that converts to high temperature heat, burst into flames and produce their own source of fuel and oxygen that helps the fire keep burning

    • @chirelle.alanalooney8609
      @chirelle.alanalooney8609 2 года назад +1

      I thought the very same identical thing as you did!!!

    • @marylut6077
      @marylut6077 2 года назад +6

      I found a source on lithium-ion battery history, lithium element was discovered in the 1800s, lithium batteries were being developed in R&D labs in the 1960s, they were used in consumer products as early as 1972 in pacemakers, 1973 in Sanyo calculators, 1983 in AT&T devices and Sony devices, and 1985 the Matsushita Company was selling lithium batteries to the general public. So it could have been a shipment of products containing lithium batteries.

    • @boozypixels
      @boozypixels 2 года назад +6

      Small lithium batteries were common in computers of that generation (as today they were used to keep time and system settings). They weren't the same chemical compositions that are known for spontaneous combusting nowadays but they can still short and generate a lot of heat. Portable computers used lead-acid and ni-cad batteries which while not as volatile as lithium can still burn and create toxic and flammable gas. Not to mention plastics from enclosures and packing materials. I doubt it was military ordinance, otherwise the aircraft would have likely exploded instead of burned over 20 minutes.

    • @RickL_was_here
      @RickL_was_here 2 года назад

      That's exactly what it was, whether these "experts" believe that or not. A couple of the batteries likely rubbed through their packaging and shorted out on eachother.

  • @arcamean785
    @arcamean785 2 года назад +15

    The military angle is too politically convinent for the enemies of SA, I'd wager it was batteries.

    • @sequoiapark4506
      @sequoiapark4506 2 года назад +3

      Agree.

    • @Seri-Katil
      @Seri-Katil Год назад

      Convenient*** not "convinent". Go back to spelling class.

  • @petej.8676
    @petej.8676 Год назад +5

    Damn..2 of 3 wrist watches found were still working??!!! Wow 😯😯
    I want to know what brands of watches were these..

  • @LouisGedo
    @LouisGedo 2 года назад +30

    I love this series

    • @dontreldontrel416
      @dontreldontrel416 2 года назад +3

      I always have but I hate when all the Captains never stress how serious the problem is. It's a huge fire or it could be another big huge ordeal and all the captains are all calm cool and collected about it when they are communicating with air traffic control....... I would stress it until I cannot stress it anymore it's an emergency!! we need help 911!! emergency everybody needs help I need help the whole aircraft needs help help!!! us now please!!!!!!!

    • @angelangel7314
      @angelangel7314 2 года назад +1

      Yes we do!!!

    • @LouisGedo
      @LouisGedo 2 года назад +1

      @@dontreldontrel416
      Agreed...........the passiveness is irrational and costed lives. Mayday should have been called the moment there was the slightest hint of fire. Fire in a tin box at 30,000 feet is VERY different from fire on solid ground.

    • @dontreldontrel416
      @dontreldontrel416 2 года назад +1

      @@LouisGedo right he kept saying smoke smoke but the captain never said 🔥. Smh.

    • @LouisGedo
      @LouisGedo 2 года назад +1

      @@dontreldontrel416
      😔

  • @Bebold94
    @Bebold94 2 года назад +15

    Omg, I can only imagine what " the bodies suffered severe trauma" meant. Horrific.

  • @kellyanderson7624
    @kellyanderson7624 2 года назад +24

    I didn't think plane doors could be opened mid flight.

    • @mbryson2899
      @mbryson2899 2 года назад +11

      If the cabin has been depressurized the doors can be opened, hence why they descended to 14,000 feet.

    • @xMorbidArtx
      @xMorbidArtx 2 года назад +3

      Never seen Eraser? Ofc!

    • @MisTracy39TheVeganLady
      @MisTracy39TheVeganLady 2 года назад +5

      Me either .. the opening those doors was the biggest mistake ever because they brought the fire all the way to the door because of the oxygen and brought the plane down!

    • @philipr.6090
      @philipr.6090 2 года назад +2

      They can be if the pilot (or circumstances) have depressurized the plane and the pilot releases the door locks from the cockpit. If the aircraft is at higher altitudes and significantly pressurized, then a very large pressure differential is holding them closed with great force.

  • @bonbon-wl8eo
    @bonbon-wl8eo 2 года назад +12

    Can't bear to watch this one. Too heartbreaking

  • @johndonaldson5126
    @johndonaldson5126 2 года назад +34

    I have to give credit to those who designed and manufactured the black box.

    • @Bebold94
      @Bebold94 2 года назад +3

      Yes, too bad they can't make planes out of the same material.

    • @efulmer8675
      @efulmer8675 2 года назад +5

      They can make planes out of the same material. It just wouldn't be able to fly at all - and more importantly *it would not protect the passengers.*

  • @Kingdarrdarr_17
    @Kingdarrdarr_17 2 года назад +13

    This was very sad

  • @farinshore8900
    @farinshore8900 2 года назад +17

    Why do they always say "a smoke problem" when there's a fire?

    • @loramurray2341
      @loramurray2341 2 года назад

      Maybe because the smoke kills you faster? 🤔

    • @MisTracy39TheVeganLady
      @MisTracy39TheVeganLady 2 года назад +1

      Yeah I know .. they never say "hey we have a fire on board" .. if they did, the investigations could go a lot quicker and sooner than taking years to find out that there was a firearm board after digging all this airplane parts up from the bottom of the ocean! 😒

    • @efulmer8675
      @efulmer8675 2 года назад +8

      It's not always clear that it's a fire. The Swissair 111 flight initially had smoke from the cockpit air conditioner (which was normal) but not a fire. Later there was much more smoke from the air conditioner indicating that they *really* had a problem, but still no visible fire. Things can smolder and produce smoke without creating a visible flame.

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 8 месяцев назад

      I don’t think they knew it was a fire just smoke

    • @josephamendolea3431
      @josephamendolea3431 3 месяца назад

      @@efulmer8675 and British Airways Flight 009 had smoke from flying through a volcanic ash cloud....that one had a happy ending thankfully but boy that plane looked like someone went over the whole exterior of it with a giant Brillo pad

  • @sg7772
    @sg7772 2 года назад +12

    How did the flight attendant who opened the doors not be sucked out?

    • @emilybach
      @emilybach 2 года назад +13

      Because the pressure inside the cabin was almost, if not equal to, the pressure outside. When a plane is above a certain altitude the cabin air is more pressurized than the air outside. If a window, door or hole is opened in the fuselage at that pressure the air inside is forced out with explosive force until the pressures are equalized. The mostly equal pressures meant that the flight attendant wasn't in much danger of being sucked out (though I'd have been nervous if I had been him).

    • @sg7772
      @sg7772 2 года назад

      @@emilybach tu!

    • @stuartlee6622
      @stuartlee6622 2 года назад

      Because he was doing the sucking

  • @Bryan-Hensley
    @Bryan-Hensley 2 года назад +19

    4 years before lithium ion batteries were first "commercially" used. However I'd about bet those computers were prototypes for testing. Computers and just 4 years before lithium ion batteries becoming available commercially??? This could have set back the release by 4 years if it was the cause. What do you think?

    • @mrmustangman
      @mrmustangman 2 года назад +1

      yep

    • @boozypixels
      @boozypixels 2 года назад

      Maybe not lithium-ion (they weren't widely used in computers until the mid/late 1990s) but there were plenty of other types of batteries in computers that can short, generate heat and toxic/flammable gas. Add plastic flammable enclosures and packing materials into the mix, and you would have an inferno in short order.

  • @bambiwest1391
    @bambiwest1391 2 года назад +12

    My condolences for all who lost their loved ones. One thing that wasn’t discussed was the batteries inside the computers that was on board in the cargo hold. We now know some of the high tech batteries have caught on fire, or spontaneously combusted. I don’t know much about what materials go in to make computers and their batteries, so anyone who does have knowledge can you tell us if an element used in a computer or its batteries could trigger something like this? Be well all 😉

    • @chriskleven5441
      @chriskleven5441 Год назад

      Damaged batteries are among the worst thing on an aircraft. Nowadays they are treated as hazmat (hazardous materials) and allowed to fly on "Cargo Aircraft Only." I'm absolutely sure the cause of the fire in this disaster were the batteries. Nothing else -- battery fires are a chemical reaction similar to a road flare -- they feed themselves. I'm surprised this episode ended without anybody thinking the pallet of them was so insignificant.

  • @larchman4327
    @larchman4327 2 года назад +15

    I don't think anything would have saved them at least 80 circut breakers went out that they could hear in the only first minute and a half. But they quit using this combi 747 type after this so something good happened as a result of this crash I don't think it's a good idea to mix large amounts of cargo and passengers cause it's only a matter of time until cargo catches fire. In a large cargo plane only a handful of people will parish from the aircraft itself.

    • @greggstrasser5791
      @greggstrasser5791 2 года назад +3

      When’s the last time you heard of packages at the post office spontaneously combusting?
      There’s nothing dangerous about combies.

    • @larchman4327
      @larchman4327 2 года назад +1

      @@greggstrasser5791 (large amounts) is the key thing here as opposed to the cargo holds in the bellys of planes. If combis were ae safe as you say then this video wouldn't exist. It's just better to have designated aircraft when talking about the big stuff. They also tried to make a combination ore bulk oil carriers back in the 60s 70s but they quit making them because thay kept sinking or outright blowing up cause the inert gas system.

    • @greggstrasser5791
      @greggstrasser5791 2 года назад +3

      @@larchman4327
      If it were inherently dangerous to have large quantities of cargo in one place, we wouldn’t have warehouses.
      We still use combies. We just don’t have a 747 combie.

  • @adiakiyes6354
    @adiakiyes6354 2 года назад +12

    Many thanks...the audio and video is clear. Some You Tubers are uploading the same story and when you play it's bad. This channel is providing a good quality videos .

  • @doug9066
    @doug9066 2 года назад +8

    Never knew 747's were made like this, interesting.

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 2 года назад +2

      4 types-all-passenger, all-cargo, combi (like this plane) and convertible (able to convert from passenger to cargo and back, easily)

  • @blackbird_actual
    @blackbird_actual 2 года назад +7

    They're grasping at straws with the "military cargo" speculation in my opinion. Seems unlikely that they wouldn't have found evidence of it among the wreckage if it had indeed been aboard. I also don't buy into the lithium-ion battery speculation some in the comments mention, as this was several years before they were made available commercially(1991) and it's extremely unlikely the computer batteries mentioned would have been some sort of experimental batch(this would be more believable if they were coming from say Japan).
    Here's info from Wikipedia about a newer theory: "In 2014, South African investigative journalist Mark D. Young presented a theory that a short circuit in the onboard electronics may have started the fire. The so-called wet arc tracking arises from the action of moisture when the insulation of live wires is damaged. A leakage current to another damaged wire with the respective potential difference may form. The resulting flashover may reach temperatures of up to 5,000 °C (9,000 °F). This temperature is sufficient to ignite the thermal-acoustic insulation blankets that were in use at the time until the late 1990s. Such a short circuit may have caused the fire on board Swissair Flight 111, resulting in the crash of the aircraft in 1998."

    • @JamesWhite-sl2sb
      @JamesWhite-sl2sb 2 года назад

      "MY GEORGE , I THINK YOU SOLVED IT ! 🔍 🎓

  • @milkyo1206
    @milkyo1206 2 года назад +10

    It seems like that womans parents were having a gut feeling that day they got there will done etc....
    That's so crazy.
    Plus was this before they had oxygen on the planes?

    • @MisTracy39TheVeganLady
      @MisTracy39TheVeganLady 2 года назад +3

      Yes they had oxygen on the planes, they always had ever since they first developed airplanes .. they're just not allowed to lower the oxygen when there's a fire for fear the oxygen would just feed the fire! 😥

    • @michaelskinner896
      @michaelskinner896 2 года назад +1

      @@MisTracy39TheVeganLady I believe the only time they're (the flight crew) allowed to drop the masks during flight are during an explosive decompression event, at which of course they drop automatically.

  • @mrmustangman
    @mrmustangman 2 года назад +9

    Being trapped inside a metal tube while zooming through the sky in a raging fire is about as nightmarish as it gets 😱

    • @xMorbidArtx
      @xMorbidArtx 2 года назад +2

      Cringe

    • @chirelle.alanalooney8609
      @chirelle.alanalooney8609 2 года назад +2

      Man, you can say that again!

    • @MisTracy39TheVeganLady
      @MisTracy39TheVeganLady 2 года назад +1

      Definitely a time for Repentance and calling on the LORD Jesus Christ 🙏🏽

    • @christianhoffman7407
      @christianhoffman7407 Год назад

      Actually they did - this is verbatim or close to it of another comment in this thread by user flightmedic.

    • @christianhoffman7407
      @christianhoffman7407 Год назад +1

      Did you copy user flightmedic or did they copy you? I'm always fascinated when people do that on social media. Someone sees a comment they like and rather than offer an original thought and even though the comment has already been made - even though its point has already been stated the person in question decides to make the exact same comment. Sometimes they paraphrase in an attempt to mask their plagiarism. You/they changed the emoji but the text is identical. My fascination is why people do this.
      Being trapped inside a metal tube while zooming through the sky in a raging fire is about as nightmarish as it gets 😬

  • @arober9758
    @arober9758 2 года назад +25

    Very good job fellows!! Being trapped inside a metal tube while zooming through the sky in a raging fire is about as nightmarish as it gets 😬 very intense.

    • @user-xd7dt6gr8l
      @user-xd7dt6gr8l 2 года назад +11

      boss why did u just copypaste the top comment

    • @Thornspyre81
      @Thornspyre81 2 года назад +5

      Yeah,.a weird way to get attention

    • @flightmedic7634
      @flightmedic7634 2 года назад +8

      @@user-xd7dt6gr8l ya I've never had anyone copy my RUclips comments before ,not sure if I should feel irritated or flattered 🤨

    • @LucidDreamer54321
      @LucidDreamer54321 2 года назад +1

      Why are you posting under three different channel names?

    • @semiprofessional8470
      @semiprofessional8470 2 года назад +3

      Bot?

  • @nenblom
    @nenblom 2 года назад +7

    May the victims of SAA flight 295 RIP. ❤️❤️

  • @Mooshkie50able
    @Mooshkie50able 2 года назад +13

    There was a similar fire on another plane that was hard to figure out but they did figure it out and it was caused by a pallet of expired passenger oxygen tanks that were not sealed on the tops and they overheated releasing the Oxygen in those tanks fueling and starting the fire that was like blow torches lighting everything on fire. I bet it was the same issue that happened on that plane because the airline will take the weight of their own cargo but not necessarily say what they are transporting to there other warehouses of discarded or expired parts.

    • @Giratina575
      @Giratina575 2 года назад +2

      ValuJet 592

    • @michaelskinner896
      @michaelskinner896 2 года назад

      @@Giratina575 Yep. Over the everglades. There were a few people that lost their jobs over that one, and rightly so.

  • @28ebdh3udnav
    @28ebdh3udnav 2 года назад +5

    If you listen to the audio CVR, it's frightening

  • @markkoval4251
    @markkoval4251 2 года назад +1

    Was ABSOLUTELY RIVETING! A million 👍's!!

  • @jamesstreet228
    @jamesstreet228 2 года назад +4

    Cargo on a passenger plane is asking for a disaster.

    • @HobbyOrganist
      @HobbyOrganist 2 года назад +3

      Just getting ON a plane is asking for disaster!

  • @kenbrickman4412
    @kenbrickman4412 2 года назад +7

    Seems like ditching was their last chance

  • @chrispetty6871
    @chrispetty6871 2 года назад +4

    Why do they not design and install a fire suppression system?

  • @Rorschach1024
    @Rorschach1024 2 года назад +7

    sounds a lot like lithium batteries, but they were still a laboratory curiosity in 1990's

    • @HobbyOrganist
      @HobbyOrganist 2 года назад +3

      They DID have computers in the shipment with batteries, but I dont know what kind they were back then

  • @go4brookle761
    @go4brookle761 2 года назад +15

    This would make a great movie. Kinda like Flight 93 or the perfect storm. No one survived so we don’t know exactly what happened but are able to fill in the blanks.

    • @greggstrasser5791
      @greggstrasser5791 2 года назад +2

      Q: What is the difference between 9-11 and a cow?
      A: You can’t milk a cow for 20 years.

    • @go4brookle761
      @go4brookle761 2 года назад +4

      @@greggstrasser5791 tell that to Star Wars. They continually make bad movie after bad movie and it’s been like 40 years. Plus dairy cows can live 15-20 years.

    • @beautifulsoulgirl8683
      @beautifulsoulgirl8683 2 года назад +1

      @@greggstrasser5791 yes you can if you keep them alive. Most are slaughtered after 4-5 years because we eat them.

    • @greggstrasser5791
      @greggstrasser5791 2 года назад

      @@beautifulsoulgirl8683
      )-:

  • @georgebakerjian5479
    @georgebakerjian5479 2 года назад +4

    How many ads would you like?
    Mayday Air Disaster: yes

  • @pillettadoinswartsh4974
    @pillettadoinswartsh4974 2 года назад +5

    Flammable cargo on commercial flights, without the knowledge or consent of the passengers.
    I'd bet there were a few lawsuits that came out of this debacle.

  • @BabyBytheBeach
    @BabyBytheBeach 2 года назад +7

    THANK YOU FOR POSTING FIRES. NEXT PLEASE DO NATION AIR AS NO OTHER YT CHANNEL HAS POSTED IT, THANKS 🙏🏽

  • @shadegloom
    @shadegloom 2 года назад +4

    I need more of these uploads! So good!

    • @schildca
      @schildca 2 года назад

      Search.. Air Plane crashes full length on RUclips. I have probably watched 50 or more. Sadly, waiting on more crashes for new shows or documentaries.

  • @steveclapper5424
    @steveclapper5424 2 года назад +6

    They had enough info to determine what happened without going to the crash in a part of the ocean to deep to work.

    • @greggstrasser5791
      @greggstrasser5791 2 года назад

      Colgan Air sounds fake to me. Something’s off about this also.

    • @paulherring8959
      @paulherring8959 2 года назад +2

      I take it you know all of this because you're a renowned expert on aircraft and aircraft crashes. Right?

    • @steveclapper5424
      @steveclapper5424 2 года назад +2

      @@paulherring8959 no I just listened to the story.

  • @errole
    @errole Год назад +1

    It's crazy to think people's loss can be others life saving help in the future. 😢

  • @mikeanderson4112
    @mikeanderson4112 Год назад

    Great video but only thing what cause the fire in first place second fire extinguisher in cargo bay

  • @kdfulton3152
    @kdfulton3152 2 года назад +1

    You’re not welcome anywhere in the world until you think like us.

  • @kellyanderson7624
    @kellyanderson7624 2 года назад +6

    Why didn't the oxygen masks drop?

    • @efulmer8675
      @efulmer8675 2 года назад +2

      They only drop if the cabin air pressure goes lower than a specific value and it seems that they were calibrated not to drop automatically below 14000 feet (you'll be fine at that altitude or lower) and the Captain did not drop them himself because of the fire.

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 8 месяцев назад +1

      Fire loves oxygen

    • @CaptainZ26
      @CaptainZ26 3 месяца назад

      They aren't allowed to drop them during a fire emergency. I think the Swiss air fire episode explains that. The oxygen masks could give ample oxygen, making a fire worse

  • @nastynate1219
    @nastynate1219 2 года назад +2

    Every time I hear South Africa I think Lethal Weapon 2.

  • @MontoyaGamer1_Entertainment
    @MontoyaGamer1_Entertainment 8 месяцев назад

    The aircraft was a Boeing 747-200M (Mixed Variant) which can carry both Passengers and Pallets of Cargo.

  • @noahschneider400
    @noahschneider400 11 месяцев назад +1

    Between the door opening and the conspiracy theories; this episode was insane.

  • @MegaLokopo
    @MegaLokopo 2 года назад +5

    Do we know it wasn't batteries from the electronics?

    • @BangaGlaser
      @BangaGlaser 2 года назад +6

      I was screaming the whole time BATTERIES!

    • @MegaLokopo
      @MegaLokopo 2 года назад +1

      @@BangaGlaser Occasionally spontaneously combusts, causes a self fueled fire, burns really hot. Batteries Batteries Batteries.
      Why does everything have to be a government hoax.

    • @Bryan-Hensley
      @Bryan-Hensley 2 года назад +2

      This was 4 years before lithium ion batteries were sold.

    • @MegaLokopo
      @MegaLokopo 2 года назад +3

      @@Bryan-Hensley Thermal runaway can happen in almost all batteries. lithium batteries are simply extra bad at it.

    • @BangaGlaser
      @BangaGlaser 2 года назад +2

      @@MegaLokopo @bryan hensley I genuinely want to understand more. I know LiLo and LiPo batteries cannot handle being in the cargo hold.
      Also anyone remember the flight that was brought down because of the "used" passenger flight oxygen containers?

  • @mntns2014
    @mntns2014 Год назад +1

    Smoke problem my @$$! The freakin’ plane is on fire!

  • @12AB17
    @12AB17 2 года назад +5

    41:04 omg his eyebrows 😭🤣

    • @greggstrasser5791
      @greggstrasser5791 2 года назад

      Those aren’t eyebrows.
      Those are South African jump wings.
      He’s airborne.

  • @richewilson6394
    @richewilson6394 4 месяца назад

    Batteries are always going to cause a fire There was another fire that took down a UPS plane and that that's reason why we have to have batteries in fireproof containment units when they fly.

  • @SuperpowerBroadcasting
    @SuperpowerBroadcasting Год назад +1

    I am inclined to believe that South African Airlines was carrying illegal weapons, propellant, or ammunition. Green Dot Aviation had a great video covering this.

  • @ThreePhaseHigh
    @ThreePhaseHigh 2 года назад

    I think they should have use a strong Bluetooth wireless signal from the cockpit to the black box Voice recorder . 😉

  • @testchannelpleaseignore2452
    @testchannelpleaseignore2452 Год назад

    36:17 thats not what happened though. The cvr includes tape of the pilots talking about the dinner service sonething that wouldve happened soon after takeoff. Not within thirty minutes of the crash

  • @mattbonacci4950
    @mattbonacci4950 2 года назад +1

    I used to ship out chemicals overnight Federal express and hazardous too, and they would go on an ordinary jet carrying passengers. Not really smart to do that!!!

  • @anakinsolo719
    @anakinsolo719 2 года назад +1

    Isn't this the one where the manifest listed a cargo of "oxygen tanks" when in fact they were live oxygen GENERATORS used in the passenger oxygen masks onboard aircraft?

    • @lalabirdw2407
      @lalabirdw2407 2 года назад +9

      No. That’s the Value Jet crash.

    • @anakinsolo719
      @anakinsolo719 2 года назад

      @@lalabirdw2407 I’m literally watching that video as we speak. I’m surprised I forgot about this episode.

  • @katiemcdavid4124
    @katiemcdavid4124 2 года назад +1

    Why did they not have CO2 extinguishers?????

  • @rodolfoayalajr.8589
    @rodolfoayalajr.8589 2 года назад +1

    After that accident Combie discontinued. Rip Amen 🙏.

  • @Noahtubesavition
    @Noahtubesavition 2 месяца назад

    What caused the fire in flight 295 37:39

  • @huseman21
    @huseman21 2 года назад +1

    Shouldn't they put the cargo in front of the people? The smallest crash and its going to crush everybody.

  • @mirinant7396
    @mirinant7396 4 месяца назад

    It's like swiss 111

  • @bettyechols6405
    @bettyechols6405 Год назад

    I thought that the coordinates of the plane would be on the radar of the tower

  • @Rorschach1024
    @Rorschach1024 2 года назад +1

    laptop frames WERE made of magnesium back then however, so if there was an ignition source....

  • @patriciamariemitchel
    @patriciamariemitchel 2 года назад

    I want to tell the crew in the cockpit to find a hole in the ceiling and spray fire extinguishers up in there. 😳

  • @kevinmalone3210
    @kevinmalone3210 2 года назад +2

    If you have a raging fire on board a commercial airliner, the best option, ditch it in the ocean if you have to, or get it on the ground asap. Too many cases of onboard fires on commercial flights shows the longer they stay in the air, the better chance the fire will bring down the aircraft. ValueJet, a DC 9 crashed into the Everglades in 1995, and a few others flights show this to be true. A Swiss Air flight out of JFK in 1998 crashed in the ocean off the coast of Novia Scotia due to an onboard fire. The pilots have to think outside the box and go against their training to follow emergency procedures, which I imagine wouldn't be easy for them to do this, plus they can't just decide to land anywhere but have to descend and prepare the aircraft for an emergency landing, where an airport would be ideal.
    Yeah, heard the arguments before that it will cause the breakup of the aircraft if you ditch in the ocean. Maybe, maybe not, but the alternative is certain death.

    • @nickwarner8158
      @nickwarner8158 2 года назад +3

      Think of this as if you are the pilot and not sitting on the sidelines like we are currently. You have not only a duty to your passengers, you personally saw them board. Also, you have been given a shitload of hours of training by your company that lets you fly their pricey machine. A fire has been reported on a lot of flights over the years and the airlines use these incidents to further train pilots. Typically these fires get put out and its simply a divert to the nearest airport. These planes need almost 200mph just to not stall, so any terrain landing is guaranteed death. Water landings rarely work either. Also they fly over population centers and the only thing worse than a plane crash is when it crashes into an apartment building. So as long as they have some control over their avionics they will try to make an airport. Ditching hundreds of miles out in the ocean means likely nobody lives. If you think your car could get home, but you'll drive it. Well pulling over and waiting for AAA isn't a thing in the skies. If I had my hands on the controls of this plane I would've tried to make a runway

    • @Parks_21
      @Parks_21 2 года назад

      Who's to say that wasn't What happened
      We don't know how the plane crashed or if the pilots decided to ditch it because the Voicebox says cut out. But that could have been the end result of what happened.
      There are whole bunches of different factors to think about also for instance.
      At Night/Morning
      In the middle of the Indian Ocean
      Nautical miles away from Mauritius
      With that type of plane it would Easily break apart. Ditching would have been more risky
      Not to mention shark infested water
      Sounds like more ways to die and more problems to The Fray

  • @mikeshaw9260
    @mikeshaw9260 2 года назад +4

    I have a fascination with biplanes crop dusters in the dawn of flight I have never been on a jet plane and will never... People don't realize the danger of jets the pilot takes you exactly as far as the crash site there is no getting out there is no parachutes you are force to ride the aluminum coffin straight into the ground I'll take my chances with a shoot and a biplane

    • @sebsaviationyyc
      @sebsaviationyyc 2 года назад +3

      It's also EXTREMELY unlikely that a crash would happen though, so I don't think you need to worry too much.

    • @sandrabentley8111
      @sandrabentley8111 2 года назад +1

      And I have the exact opposite fear of biplanes or prop planes. Never felt fear in a jet.

    • @efulmer8675
      @efulmer8675 2 года назад

      Jet planes are far, far safer than you think. You're vastly more likely to die in a car accident than a plane crash.

  • @charlesmoore456
    @charlesmoore456 2 года назад +1

    Traveling in a fried-out combie...

  • @mattbonacci4950
    @mattbonacci4950 2 года назад

    Just because I shipped the chemicals by Federal Express it doesn't mean that they are going on a Federal Express Airline. They go on regular passenger jets!!!

  • @Crashed131963
    @Crashed131963 2 года назад +1

    They had computers in 1988?

  • @bettyechols6405
    @bettyechols6405 Год назад +1

    I cannot imagine having to grab a manual to read while a huge fire rages before you. Why not train the crew how to fight fires? What if real firemen had to grab a book before each fire? They attend an academy to learn

    • @jeffs2809
      @jeffs2809 Год назад

      You should check out the mentour pilot channel. That might give you a better understanding of the way things are done in aviation. He does a much more technical analysis of different aircraft accidents from a commercial pilot and airport firefighter perspective.

  • @johnfox9169
    @johnfox9169 7 месяцев назад

    South Africa was rightly condemned for Apartheid.

  • @thisravenhasflown010
    @thisravenhasflown010 3 месяца назад

    Dying on my own terms seems better than in the air on fire at another's mercy, just saying.

  • @adotintheshark4848
    @adotintheshark4848 2 года назад

    Monday morning quarterbacking, but perhaps they should have ditched the plane before things got out of control.

  • @MisTracy39TheVeganLady
    @MisTracy39TheVeganLady 2 года назад +2

    "A smoke problem?" .. not "Hey we have a fire on board!" 🥺

    • @Parks_21
      @Parks_21 2 года назад

      I mean it is called "Fanning the Flames"
      🙄( Read)

  • @GEORGIABOY23
    @GEORGIABOY23 Год назад +1

    Where was the mask drop down? Did I miss something?

    • @jeffs2809
      @jeffs2809 Год назад +1

      Masks only drop with sudden loss of cabin pressure and aircraft has to be above 14,000 feet. Also, oxygen supply to those masks is limited, 12 minutes I think. Something like just enough to get from max altitude to 14,000 feet.

    • @GEORGIABOY23
      @GEORGIABOY23 Год назад +1

      @@jeffs2809 umm unacceptable

  • @TinyFreya59
    @TinyFreya59 2 года назад

    There was just not jack didley damn the crew could do to save that plane once they realized the fire just would NOT go out. THAT fact screams sneaky military contraband being put on passenger flights. Those poor people…

  • @HikikomoriDev
    @HikikomoriDev 2 года назад

    I ran out of popcorn :(

  • @bettyechols6405
    @bettyechols6405 Год назад

    Bodies found suffering from trauma? Bodies suffering?

  • @philipschifano5876
    @philipschifano5876 9 месяцев назад

    The only thing I will say .. ALL this time later .. and for NO ONE to be named for being the cause .. I do not think it was an actual group of people or ONE person that did it. There is NO WAY by now that they haven’t told SOMEONE what they did .. it would’ve came out eventually by now . People ALWAYS talk!! It’s human nature. If it was a someone that did it and not a someTHING. They would’ve bragged about it to someone by now and it would’ve came out . The fact that it hasn’t shows me it wasn’t a person or personS

  • @BillDerBerg
    @BillDerBerg 3 месяца назад

    sounds like they were smuggling rocket propellant to use it in anti aircraft rockets against Angola. Snuck it in with other cargo, didnt list it. Mystery solved.

  • @arfinjalal4563
    @arfinjalal4563 2 года назад

    The cargo burned in this plane ✈️

  • @pillettadoinswartsh4974
    @pillettadoinswartsh4974 2 года назад +1

    Master Waybill
    Father of Fee Waybill

    • @fumanpoo4725
      @fumanpoo4725 2 года назад

      White punk pilots on dope....

  • @davidmaruska8350
    @davidmaruska8350 2 года назад

    Some people should have had some hotdogs

  • @stuartlee6622
    @stuartlee6622 2 года назад +2

    They should have ditched!!!!

  • @go4brookle761
    @go4brookle761 2 года назад +7

    They would probably have lived had they been allowed to fly over Africa.

    • @Bryan-Hensley
      @Bryan-Hensley 2 года назад +1

      They didn't even have time to land in the ocean.

    • @go4brookle761
      @go4brookle761 2 года назад

      @@Bryan-Hensley they were in the air for 38 mins after they declared an emergency. My guess is they knew there was a problem before that but thought they could put it out.

    • @greggstrasser5791
      @greggstrasser5791 2 года назад +2

      Politics is above aviation.

  • @chiefsxtreme
    @chiefsxtreme 8 месяцев назад

    Q u e s t i o n s: - Where were the drop-down Oxygen Masks during the Fire & why was there absolutely no mention of them in this documentary
    - Was there any investigation into the List of Passengers booked onto this f l i g h t ? These Questions seem obvious to me & it's odd that they were not brought up during this video.

  • @randydelaney7053
    @randydelaney7053 2 года назад

    i hate it when the narrator says Debris like Day Bree? it makes no sense. It's Debris!

  • @sanchezfamily5763
    @sanchezfamily5763 2 года назад +1

    Can you please do disasters at sea?

    • @MaydayAirDisaster
      @MaydayAirDisaster  2 года назад +2

      We have an entire playlist dedicated to ocean crashes and landings! 🌊 Go check it out - bit.ly/33ntOOb

  • @elainemoreland3908
    @elainemoreland3908 2 года назад

    See what happened.

  • @mpscorporation6874
    @mpscorporation6874 Год назад

    Interesting documentary, but I cant say that I feel bad about people and companies that continue to do business with and within a country that practices apartheid...

  • @MisTracy39TheVeganLady
    @MisTracy39TheVeganLady 2 года назад +4

    Opening the doors and letting all that air out while there was a fire in the back was the biggest mistake and the dumbest thing I've ever heard of in my life .. All they did was probably bring the fire right to the doors and bring down the plane! 🥵

    • @Parks_21
      @Parks_21 2 года назад +1

      Well let's thank whatever God you believe in you don't have to make those critical decisions.
      I mean literally people were actually CHOKING on TOXIC FUMES.
      And what they did was prevent more deaths from smoke inhalation.
      And by the way When you base everything A "probability" Completely elementary but whatever.

    • @HobbyOrganist
      @HobbyOrganist 2 года назад +2

      They added a crapload of fresh air to the fire but they were stuck between a rock and a hard place with no alternatives and the airport way too far to make it with a raging fire and dead electrical systems. The cargo hold should have had a built-in fire suppression system

    • @MisTracy39TheVeganLady
      @MisTracy39TheVeganLady 2 года назад +1

      @@HobbyOrganist it did have a protective seal but it wasn't secure so air got to it... 😶

  • @davidewersphotography1013
    @davidewersphotography1013 2 года назад

    conspiracy theories will always arise when people who do noy like the idea i do not know