Why has St. Louis become the most dangerous city in the USA? - VisualPolitik EN
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St. Louis was once the most important city west of the Mississippi River and one of the richest, most flourishing and economically active cities in the United States. It was a very prosperous place that also became one of the most important cultural and artistic hubs in the country.
Today, however, the situation is very different. After decades of crisis, the population of St. Louis is lower today than in the mid-19th century and the city has become one of the 10 most dangerous cities in the world.
So what's wrong with St. Louis? What could explain its decline? In this video we tell you all the details about one of the most incredible urban stories in the United States.
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I grew up there and we pronounce it like "Lewis"
@Robert Maxwell its actually Missouri and we say Lewis
Then why don't you change the name to "St-Lewis" ?
In most of the world if we want people to pronounce something a certain way we change the spelling.
@@meneither3834 did you watch the video? They don’t know what the fuck they’re doing back there. That’s why I left, for Oregon, which no one ever mispronounces...
@Robert Maxwell We do not sweat such things, good you worry about it. Every MO resident I know says Lewis. We do things our way. Since u feel the need to cut people down. Gonna be hard eating useless knowledge.
😂😂😂 i was looking for this.
oh look another researcher that failed to notice how the divorce of St. Louis and St. Louis County effects the statistics.
This video failed to mention that in the mid 1900s development in St. Louis reached its 61 square miles city limit (a size which is small by American standards) and could no longer annex land. Development continued into the neighboring county, which now has a million person population. Missouri's other large city, Kansas City, has an area of 319 square miles. St. Louis city is only a small part of it 2.8 million person metropolitan area.
StL has been under horrible management for the past forty years. They invest millions into the riverfront but there are no Riverboats! There is no thriving night life in Laclede Square and this is because of crime and racial unrest and the two go hand in hand.Go to the Zoo and come out to dozens of windows smashed in. I watch videos posted on you tube of North County. It's disgraceful.It's where I grew up. It's like a frikkin bomb hit it. Way too much coddling of criminals but you cant mention color. White flight is still in progress. Chicago sucked the life out of us and they're no better racially or with crime. Many of our big businesses were bought out so a once great city dies a slow death.
Johnson County, Kansas is projected by WSU to have a significantly larger population than any county in MO in the coming years. And on top of that it has an average median income almost twice that of the richest Missouri county, which is right across the river from it. The Kansas City metros whole economy is driven by Johnson County, and the majority of buildings in KCMO were built by Johnson County developers. Even the Missouri side of KC gets more money from Johnson County citizens than their own.
As St. Louis prepares to be overtaken by KC as the largest metro in Missouri, it may be depressing to consider that Missouri's largest city will now be a city of Kansas for the most part. MO has fallen far away from its prime when St. Louis was set to become what Chicago ended up taking from them.
@@hankschrader7050 But also Johnson County Kansas is very snobby, rube, and wayyyyyyy more liberal than any County in Missouri. Also the city of St.Louis also wanted to separated from St.Louis County in 1877 (which is the major down fall of the city of St.Louis Missouri).
and 1/4 of that 2.8 million (700,000+) comes from Illinois! The metro east is way way larger than most showing how much St Louis depends on Illinois residents whether or not they want to admit it.
@@hankschrader7050 they said the same thing about St Charles County in Missouri back in the 90's, and guess what, St Louis County (independent of the city) is still larger with approximately 1 million people. Forecasts are just that, predictions.
I think you should also mention this. St. Louis City removed itself from the larger St. Louis county which has one million residents. St. Louis city now covers just 64 square miles, where the St Louis county is 3x larger. SO, statistically the crime rates cover only the 64 square miles of st. Louis city. Imagine if you cut out the downtown only area of most U.S cities...the crime rate would be much higher. If you look at the St. Louis metro area the crime rate is much more like other cities in the U.S.
@@LegendLength
I’m from St.Louis - I now live in Jacksonville Florida. City life is a “ Fast” life. You get used to things happening fast, and on a big scale. I guess it’s “accepted as part of city life, and part of life in general. If you stay away from gangs, gambling, and drugs - watch your surroundings, you usually do ok. I’ve been very fortunate all these 60 years - most of it ,city life. Rarely had any problems.
Of course, Jacksonville Florida is a near complete opposite of St.Louis.
Jacksonville is mostly completely integrated throughout. And there are jobs here.
The city has a greater tax base, because, unlike St.Louis [ which is completely separate from the county], Jacksonville city limits stretch completely through the entire county - so , enter Duval County, enter Jacksonville City Limits. [ this extra area really boosts the Tax Base, giving the city much more to work with.
Jacksonville still has plenty of problems, “ Hoods” and gangs, but our police force is in force, with no cutbacks, and we’ve adopted many programs to help communities.
Jacksonville is a very old city, but is thriving.
📻🙂
@@LegendLength You make a very good point.
@@jeffking4176 Also Florida has Governor De Slantis (which he nothing but a real fighting Patriot and would make a really great president).
Very good points. This video is unfair and very superficial
Wrong lol Chicago Atlanta Charlotte downtown area is way safer than the outer areas lol example North Charlotte(hidden valley,west side. ATL(west of I75). Chicago(southside to Gary Indiana) lol
And 117 years back , this city hosted the 3rd Olympics. Damn !!
And they say all races are equal
It is not a 6 year trend ?!?! I'm 47 and St. Luis has had similar problems to Baltimore and Detroit and Cleveland where this trend has been firmly in place for at least 50 years.
all these cities have certain community in high numbers
@@swagsik390 Poor is the word you are looking for. Sajib
The entire video is literally about the long term decline of the city.
@@uvwxyzero I know but certain group of poors which have fatherless homes, higher teen pregnancy, Their teen girls idols are cardi b and nicki minhaj
And guess what if conservatives like me say " Fatherless house is a tragedy. don't have a child outside wedlock or maintain abstinence
suddenly all these leftwing mo___ s would come for me... and say bi**t
@Robert Maxwell Haha 😂
The vast majority of the crime happens in North St. Louis City. East St. Louis is very dangerous, but East St. Louis and St. Louis Missouri are two different cities. Downtown St. Louis is dangerous at night. The main way to keep yourself safe in St. Louis is to not get involved with gang activities and to be aware of your surroundings.
Yup, stay away from the drugs and dont screw people and you can pretty much do whatever you want at night
East St. Louis isn’t as bad anymore. It’s nothing over there. Just a few projects housing that is closing down.
@@xftbllplyr2091 Is the area around St. Louis Downtown Airport safe?
@@xftbllplyr2091 move there then lol
@@xftbllplyr2091 you crazy if you think estl isn't bad.
Lived in the suburbs 91-04. The city can’t annex land so it’s size has been fixed for 100 years. The city itself is 66sq miles. 1/5 size of Memphis and 1/2 Little Rock. Everyone who can move to the suburbs left. That’s why it has so much crime.
@@LegendLength they got in a pissing match with the county and separated from the county. The city was the big dog at the time and thought it wouldn’t matter. They lost the right to annex land. The border of the city has been fixed since then.
@@LegendLength I thought it was 1913, it was 1876. “The Great Divorce”
@@MikeM4729 The city of St.Louis shouldn't have separated from the county in the first place, now had it stayed with the county through the decades then it wouldn't be as deadly and today trying to merge the city with the county is a very bad idea.
DC is 48 square miles and people prefer DC than it’s suburbs. Lol
Not mentioned in this video: McDonnell Douglas (Headquarter: St. Louis, Missouri) was an important aircraft manufacturer who produced an impressive range of civil aircraft (like the famous DC3 and DC10/MD11 among others) alongside important military aircraft (F4, F15 and many others).
Since 1997 McDonnell Douglas is part of Boeing, headquartered in Seattle.
Boeing’s headquarters is Chicago now.
They still have a plant that pushes out F-15's in St.Louis County.
idk. until recently there were as many fortune 500s in st louis as all of colorado [2018]. 3 were bought and 1 [Peabody coal] fell of the list. the guy who created digital globe just eshewed high priced CO for St Louis in building another geotech company. also, boeing grew its plant in st. louis to the point where their services in the city are expanding.
St.Louis was a major contributor to the Space race and Military via MD. When the Vietnam war and Space Race ended it was a major blow to the city.
Also the Chrysler plant
The city population within the city limits has shrunk because of the white flight to the suburbs. Because of the highways being built in the 1950s people with money left the city. St Louis County has 2 mil plus people and growing.
I agree. I think that it was completely stupid to not even mention that Saint Louis city is considered an independent city surrounded by Saint Louis county. Both have strong ties and the county has over a million inhabitants. I think the separation of the city and county had definitely contributed to the decline of Saint Louis
Ya they really didn't do very great research on the city
Except every major city including Chicago went through white flight, but few suffered continous population declines over the following decades.
@@milodudeful But they're not talking about the metro area, they're talking about the decline of St Louis itself. Detroit's metro has been growing but Detroit still sucks.
That's an unsustainable trend, best case scenario the county will eventually stagnate. Worst case, and the more likely scenario, is that as the city proper continues its decline, more companies will start leaving leading to jobs drying up and people following the money. Hopefully St. Louis can eventually right the ship and the city will begin to improve
The way he says st. louis pains me
Then change the name to St. Lewis instead
@@geisterfahreruberholer2171 but Louis n Lewis have the same pronunciation. As a Lewis I know this because I always have to clarify which spelling I use
This dude has no idea about the world - he just reads the script🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️😬
I'm sure how Americans pronounce it pains the French too. Same goes for New Orleans, you shouldn't get mad over people saying it the objectively correct way.
@@RubyDoobieScoo true
I wanna hear this info as a local of st Louis but if you keep pronouncing the city wrong or say “wait wait” “hold up let’s go back” or make that record scratch/rewind sound one more time I’m gonna lose my damn mind.
Horrible video lol
lol
Please, please do not ever call it “St Louey” again.
It's actually was at one time correct to pronounce it that way as well as spelling it Sainte Louis. Like all things every thing changed to what made us comfortable. Plus none of the original French residents have been around since the White Flight. Unfortunately history has not been so kind to the city.
@@OzarkHillbilly ok but the presenter could have done the research to understand how it's pronounced now. It's simple.
ong 💀
It's how Louis is pronounced. Like the way you all pronounce Orléans wrong. It's orl eh an and don't pronounce the s
😂
Like the others said, you have to acknowledge the move from St. Louis city to St. Louis County. If both populations were one, it would be one of the largest cities in the country and wouldn't be one of the most dangerous cities. That has to be acknowledged when telling this story.
This never makes sense because it's still murders per 100k people. Other places are measured by still measured by their city population, and it's not like they don't have suburbs too.
@@manzell true but the count in St. Louis DOES NOT include the suburbs at all. It only counts the inner city limits. That's the problem.
@@medc5600kdb why is that a problem? Seattle doesn't include its suburbs, Oakland doesn't include its suburbs. Newark doesn't include its suburbs. It's a weird cope that I've only ever heard (and heard frequently) from St Louis residents.
@@manzell all of the cities you listed should include the suburbs in the equation when being compared to cities that did not separate from their suburbs
This is just a total weird cope by STL to downplay their failure to reduce violence. Gotta acknowledge the problem if you want to fix it.
But what about East St Louis? You know the city's run down slum across the Mississippi in Illinois?
My first thought was if they were talking about St Louis proper, or the greater St Louis region including ESL.
East St. Louis is in Illinois not Missouri
The poverty certainly spills into some of the older suburbs, such as Harvey in the Chicago area. But yes East St Louis is really bad.
@@DurokSubaka what does Across the Mississippi in Illinois mean to you?
yeah i wanted to hear about east st louis
Wow we made VisualPolitik? I don't know whether to be embarrassed or flattered....
why?
Represent 😂
Considering the city made it on VisualPolitik solely because of its high crime rate, I should think the answer obvious. If you couldn’t figure that out you should be embarrassed for yourself, as well as St. Louis.
Living here in St Louis all my life, I can tell you that you're missing an important distinction with St Louis and its population. We are one of the only cities that does not include the outer population of the metro area and it's numbers. Unlike your typical City, St Louis is completely separated from St Louis County and both of them have completely different governments, police forces, and Reporting. Within the city limits St.Louis the population is 315,000 or so. In the surrounding metro area St Louis County the population is between 2 to 3 million. Most major cities would include these numbers before whatever reason st-louis is separate. This makes people think our city is a lot smaller population wise and actually is when really the number is vastly larger then what the numbers that are reported show
Im a stl native and i can concure, we also consider east stl part of the city which is actually in IL. The city is dogshit tho, u got that right in the video😊
Jacksonville for example is 3 times as big at 950k people if you just go by the population of the city but the metro area is only half as big at 1.3 million compared to St Louis metro which has 2.8 million
I find it interesting that the so called American "Rust Belt" with cities in decline pretty much surrounds the thriving heart of Canada, Southern Ontario. The cities there, not just Toronto, but Hamilton Kitchener-Waterloo, London and man more have been in continuous growth and expansion since the end of WWII. While there is crime, there is no where near the amount of crime and violence there is in the U.S. with a similar culture.
In fact toronto is fast leaving behind chicago. Canada is benefiting from good immigration policies , good service sector and and the locals being more liberal and less violent.
Canada doesn’t have as many lunatics or bastards
Canada has a whole country of resources about the size of the 48 states with the population of like 30 million
Harder to get a gun in canada...
And in canada, immigration and border patrols are not deemed as racist organizations that should be eliminated, as opposed to the us.
@@리주민 - Actually, no it isn't.
I live in St. Louis, and some of those buildings that are shown as being dilapidated or run down are actually fully restored and have tourist sites/businesses in them now. I'd say the city is on the up..... especially since that's really the only direction we can go I guess
Even parts of the North side are starting to see more investment, especially with NGA.
@@HX79 move into the right area and you will be fine and probably love the city
Not sure I find any evidence of improvement at all. Cops won't work in St. Louis (they are short 100 plus officers right now). Since 1993 the city has lost nearly 90,000 residents. Kim Gardner, the so called "circuit attorney" is criminally soft on crime, even pro-criminal. Carjackings routinely involve criminals under the age of 14. And the madness is spreading deep into North County. No improvement to be found here. The most dangerous city in America, based on per-capita assessment, is St. Louis, MO.
@@superbug1977 yeah but some nicer areas are growing, if you just forget about north city stuff doesn’t look so bad…. Just give it a few years and they’ll gentrify the riverfronts and other kool parts of town. If you look at the population loss since the 50s, it’s actually stabilizing, surely you can only go so low lol.
@@devoncantrell2595 Consider the city of Wellston and you'll see the future of the Downtown area. Wellston is a no man's land. The Wellston Loop was once the shopping mecca of St. Louis, all the way through the 50s. The pattern is one of westward moving crime and decay and I've never seen a reversal since the 60s. Even University City and Clayton are being ruined by the poison that the Metrolink delivers on a daily basis.
I'm from Missouri and the city is pronounced St. "Lewis". 🤦
Also, the reason it's so dangerous is because of the influx of opioids (specifically Fentanyl) being shipped in from China through South America.
Nothing to do with the locals then?
@@J-SH06 I'm not sure. But I think they didn't give enough credit to the major opioids crisis.
Europeans pronounce it that way like the French founders
I thought opiods were history
@@ejeefe4816 ???
Video chooses to skip over the race issue.
However without understanding the race issues over the last 50+ years and dealing with that, the city will never be able to move forward and return to greatness
In this environment? Might as well abolish the channel for even thinking of mentioning race as a possible reason...
Haha I work in North St. Louis. The other day I watched a lady steal bricks right from the sidewalk just outside my security fenced parking lot.
@@Mathguy363 You can't defund what's never been funded
Not the only city where that happens.
@@sasjme81 I never said it was.
LOL!😂
My sister worked near Kingshighway and Natural Bridge, the straight up hood!
Crackheads begging for change etc
As a Someone from Kansas City.. St. Louis is seriously one of the worst cities… it’s gone hill so bad.. it’s sad
The city is crime ridden but the county (west county and south county) are nice places to live. companies and people moved out of the city a long time ago. When you compare cities ie St Louis to Chicago you have to make sure you are comparing city vs city and not city vs city including the counties.
This is very general. There are many neighborhoods in St. Louis with low crime. Princeton heights, Compton heights, ellendale, St. Louis hills, gate district, debaliviere, the hill and most of dog town have low crime. Most people in the county don’t know this or these neighborhoods
As long as you avoid North Saint Louis and don't cross the bridge to East saint Louis. You are pretty safe.
@@thesub-5man725 is the bridge that is natural there part of North or East St. Louis? I would love to take pictures of The Natural Bridge but I also want to be very very safe as well. Any feedback would be appreciated.
The city is relatively safe in my opinion. I wouldn’t park in an area if there’s no public parking lot and the area looks abandoned because you never know who’s lurking…..but other than that, I think a visitor should be fine
The movie ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK was filmed in St. Louis.
Wow, very telling.
Thought that Planet of the Apes was filmed there. Might be mistaken, but an honest mistake……..
St. Louis: I'm the most dangerous city!
Baltimore: *laughs in hood*
@White Wolf haha
There is more murder and overall crime per capita compared to Baltimore. East St. Louis alone makes Detroit and Baltimore look like Disney Land.
10 years in the future: "The story of how the East Coast city of Baltimore ended up at the bottom of the Mississippi river, over 400 miles away, starts in the comments section of a RUclips video about how dangerous St. Louis is."
@White Wolf They got the population wrong in the video it's closer to 2 mill
I love how you morons wear it as a badge of honour. Keeping in real!
Hearing the name mispronounced every few seconds is like fingernails on a chalkboard. Why not spend a moment addressing why the pronunciation is different than in French?
St Louis has many suburbs. If you look at the MSA I don't think the population has shrunk anything near the numbers put out here. It may even have some growth, but clearly Chicago is the winner here.
What they fail to mention is that the City divorced from the county over 100 years ago. That's why when people need true population numbers they count the Metro area & not the city itself.
I would of thought it was Chicago too.
Go to north st.louis
@@sasjme81 Exactly mate.
If you’re ever in St. Louis, do not cross the river into East St. Louis or you’re gonna have a bad time.
I had some 10 year old buckwheat looking boy in a dirty white t with a baggie of something trying to wave me over to stop while I was on the interstate on-ramp loop in my big rig 😂
But we disagree with you Lynnsey
@@scienceisall2632 are you gay?
@@scienceisall2632 Care to explain what you mean?
@Tuy Randolph Wdym by that?
Im sure that the fact that the City is separate from the county really scews up these stats
It’s as if there’s a common demographic factor shared all these once great industrial cities now in decline. I wonder what that could be.
Liberals
Correlation doesn't equal causation.
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@@badluck5647 Wrong.
Also, you aren't going to call this dude out for his racism?
@@gagetomerlin2497 no, because he is factually correct.
The city has not had a Republican mayor since 1949... odd how this wasn't mentioned
I grew up around Boston. In the late 1970's, I visited St. Louis for a job interview. As was the custom, the employer (a big chemical company) assigned a junior guy to drive me around the area and show me the sights and the neighborhoods where I might find an apartment. What sticks in my mind was that, in casual conversation, he asked me what denomination I was. Even in the 70's, for someone from Boston, that was a bit jarring since the question contained the assumption that I must be Protestant and that I could not be an atheist, a Jew, or even a Catholic. I don't believe the question indicated any prejudice on his part... It was more an indication of the how uncosmopolitan the area was compared with the East or West coasts.
The question in fact did indicate a LOT of prejudice on his part. St. Louis has always been a heavily Catholic city. The particular person you dealt with was like a lot of people in the 50s and 60s who were anti-Catholic, but still I am surprised that he was able to get away with this into the 70s.
America is truly a country of extremes. You have obscene wealth and violence. I read some of the crimes that get committed there and I'm literally left speechless. We do have crimes here in UK but the degree of violence is no where near like America. A girl was missing a few months ago and the whole nation was notified. I imagine this is an everyday occurrence in American.
America is intense. You've got 50 states all with differing ideas on constitutional interpretation. You can carry a gun on your hip in some and can't own one in others. Every state is like it's own fiefdom. The only thing barely gluing it all together is this "Notion" we're a country, the Interstate Commerce Commission and Federal Law.
@@maximvsdread1610 Good insight thanks
@@maximvsdread1610 the ICC needs to be overhauled
@@maximvsdread1610 well said.
@@qjtvaddict The ICC needs to be burned. That's where I'd start the overhaul process.
I think another factor in the population drop is that a lot of people in the next gen of citizens ( myself included) got the eff out of there . You wouldn’t believe how many times I’ve gone to a new city in America and I run into like 5 other people from St. Louis .
If here were not for the Arch and two pro sport teams there would be no reason to go downtown. We actually chose to no longer attend any games at either stadium because we no longer felt safe getting back to our vehicle.
Agreed. Crime after sporting events and concerts is really bad. The local news often omits it to keep the mayor happy
It's not St Louie, it's St Louis.
please share your sources for crime rate statistics. I'm not saying your wrong but 1 in 51 people being the victim of violent crime sounds absolutely insane.
Can’t say I’ve heard of Saint Louie
😂
He did not do enough research at all, the only reason St. Louis looks so bad is because the county and the city are not one big city like any other city, also the main reason St. Louis has had a population decline wad because everyone is moving to the county, instead of the city, he should really try to research a little more
Visual Politik: sAiNt LeWeY
Me: Cringe
I lived in the city for 12 years. Went to UMSL and bought a home in south city. It was mostly safe on the south side back in the 70s. Had an occasion to visit the city last June. It is truly a dangerous place now.
I loved st.louis as a kiddo. But it's gotten so bad in just 15 years and we avoid it like the plague.
Same for Portland and Seattle, liberals have destroyed more cities than the atomic bomb.
@@polishherowitoldpilecki5521 Stop being so deluded by tribalism. Pure 3rd world behavior
@Jason Bourne Again, pure tribal, misinformed 3rd world behavior.
@@polishherowitoldpilecki5521 Wrong.
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@Jason Bourne Correlation isn't causation.
In fact, the poorest states are actually Republican.
Why are American cities declining in general? Because of Democrat policies.
Republican state legislature and Governor. The state has a lot to do with it.
@@Moor_Fish Conveniently omits the MAYOR which is democratic.
@@Moor_Fish st Louis has been run by the democrats for over 30 years. Their current mayor is a democrat.
The state has had mostly democrat governors. Generally it declines under democrat rule with wild spending and taxation. Dems seem to forget there is no "free stuff" if there are no jobs and you can't have jobs without businesses, and businesses cant survive with high taxes. The European leftists figured this out, but the US leftists always attack the businesses.
The rust belt cities of Detroit, Cleveland, St. Luis, and Baltimore owe their fundamental ruin to " push" AND "pull" factors, beginning with the infrastructure projects of the late 1950s and 60s. See the interstate highway system of Eisenhower and the flight of middle class families from US cities and their efficient public transport and community life. The Autobile and Suburbs combined with utopian and disastrous social policy in the old city centers (push factors) to destroy the older American cities in the east and Midwest.
It's weird watching this in downtown St. Louis. It really is a great city ignoring statistics. Also we have an amazing flag.
Moving downtown this year. There are some insane apartments with low rent there.
@@freetrader0000 seems like this negative picture of st. louis keeps prices down, good for the people living their.
i wonder what the average rent prices are? if you know.
@@LegendNinja41 It is very cheap all things considered. It all depends on what type of housing your looking for because its varies greatly from neighborhood to neighborhood. If you are looking for just the bare minimum you can get a 2 bedroom apartment for $700 a month. If you want a nicer neighborhood with granite countertops your looking at between $1000 to $1200 per month.
Best city flag ever
I’ll give you a one word explanation as to why St. Louis, and pretty much every other old industrial center, faces the same problems with crime, etc: demographics. That’s literally it.
Mandatory question: don’t ALL cities have demographics? Come out and say that you blame poverty on the city having too many black people. Don’t lie to yourself about your racism and lazy logic
@@yucol5661 You know the fact that your mind immediately went to black people says way more than I could lol. Demographic profiles are more than just race, you know. They include education, wealth distribution, health, housing patterns, etc. Before you go and accuse people of racism, deal with the knee-jerk assumptions your brain makes you absolute bigot.
@@frankySR21 Seems more like he was calling you out for your rather subdued racism in suggesting its down to demographics which you purposely left vague without going into specifics and knowing full well how your statements would be perceived.
@@Phaedarus If you automatically correlate black demographics with crime, then that’s a problem with your implicit racism and not mine.
@@frankySR21 I'm asserting quite the opposite, in fact.
You have thus far refused to clarify your conclusion or present any logical data points to support that conclusion; instead leaving us with an intentionally ambiguous term. When pressed about your position, you simply resort to ad hominems; a classic attempt to avoid specifics.
Either present us with a detailed analysis of what you're implying or own up to the fact that the gig is up, franky.
Lived in downtown for 8 years, moved cause of the crime.
To where, I live in Jeff and it’s one of the most peacefully places
@@tableentertainment7644 ... Jeff? As in Jefferson county? Jefferson city?
Jeff Vanderlou?
I'm surprised you stayed 8 years. I lived in south St Louis for 6 years. It took two years to fjnd a dope to buy my house or I would have been out in 4 years.
@@dougn2350 Jefferson City
Fun fact 72% of Saint Louis is smart Good luck living in saint Louis
How have cities through history recovered from such decline and how long and what did it take?
same reason it has with Detroit Chicago and Johannesburg
@@damirbabic8168 did you read the person's comment? He/she asked how have cities RECOVERED.
Your reply to that was the same one that you posted under comments suggesting that "demographics" (pretty vague) caused St Louis to decline.
@@captaindak5119 My bad more specifically is called the Black Plague, and there is no recovery from this one, unless maybe able volcano or group of locusts destroys it
@@damirbabic8168 What about the places where the crime rate is low that has a certain population you claim is the problem?
@@gagetomerlin2497 They don't exist but let's take a look at the safest countries in the world, according to google currently Iceland, New Zealand, Portugal, Austria, Denmark, Canada, Singapore, Slovenia, Japan, Switzerland, What's the common denominator no black plague, If you can think of even just one city let me know
you are ignoring the larger metroplex of the city and its surrounding suburbs. If you failed in this regard, what else are you reporting incorrectly?
"The Broken Heart of America" by Walter Johnson is a very good book on this subject. I am born, raised, and live in the Metro East (Illinois side suburbs).
I was going to recommend that book too
*Let me save you 14min. Democrats.*
Honestly
I'm originally from St. Louis and YOU ARE RIGHT!!!! I finally saw the light after moving to Republican ran states like Utah and Texas.
I see a lot of potential for St. Louis to make a comeback. It’s affordable and has all the amenities. Just needs to rebrand
"Why has St. Louis become the most dangerous city in the USA?"
well...
same correlation it has with Detroit, Chicago, and Johannesburg
@@damirbabic8168
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@@damirbabic8168 Correlation doesn't equal causation.
Ayo Hol Up.
Hey mate, the "S" in St. Louis isn't silent.
There is a giant elephant in the room that this video does not address. Yeah, bad luck.
exactly, when exactly did St. Louis become "ahem" diverse.
Awww. They talked about poverty and race but you couldn't keep up because you were educated in...yeah, bad luck.
What are you talking about?
@@mjhmn What do you mean by that?
@@gagetomerlin2497 he is trying to say black people ruin St Louis
Could you please make a video about
Different types of health care system accross the world?? There pros and cons??
I think they have already have videos about the American, Chinese, and European heath systems.
@@badluck5647 there is no such thing as a European health system. Every nation has its own with own pros and cons.
@@geisterfahreruberholer2171 The systems are very similar -- especially compared to the rest of the world.
@@badluck5647 Not really. Compare German and French system and tell me where they are simular. Or British system with anyone.
They share the same basic-idea but differ in a lot of aspects
NHS 💙
*St.Louis Missouri is still by far the most deadliest city in America. This could be one of the reasons why the city of Kansas City Missouri is wayybigger than the city of St.Louis Missouri.*
The metro area of Saint Louis is 2.8 million and the metro area of Kansas city is 2.1. The county of Saint Louis and the City of Saint Louis are divided, much unlike almost anywhere else in the United States. Saint Louis is markedly more populated than Kansas City while each covering roughly 8,400 square miles
@@thomasyoung8329 but it’s called a metro area for a reason places like St. Charles will never be the lou
True but yet the St.Louis Metro is 2.8 Million while the Kansas City Metro area is 2.3 Million and the reason for the St.Louis decline is the separation from St.Louis County in 1876.
St. Louis city has 300000 residents, but the metro area is 2.8 million, so if you were to look at the whole metro, the crime rate is much lower. Not that St. Louis has not historically been horribly managed and was corrupt which prevented the proper development and growth. However, Chicago is really in a better economic position still.
No one does crime data solely on county, it's a city analysis because each city has it's own elected mayor. Come on man, it's political commonsense.
8:22 you completely overlook the Eads Bridge. Why is that important? Because Chicago didn't want St Louis to have railroads coming right into the heart of the city, and guess what, they have to cross the Mississippi River to go into the heart of St Louis. So, they got steamboats to require the arches span to be widened, believing it wouldn't happen, but Eads found a way around it, and St Louis got the railroad into the heart of the city.
Like Detroit and so many other large urban areas. St Louis population has dropped by more than 50% in the last 50 years. The city is only 46% White and that number is declining. Connect the dots if you can. if you want to be PC then don't connect the dots and remain ignorant of what is going on.
STL (where I live) the north side is where the only problems are. I live in the south and everyone here probably in their whole life has never experienced any crazy crime. The north and east STL are where the problems happen. South STL in thriving. Also, STL is losing people because more than 70% of the population is local. Many people don't come here and live, but many people come here for college.
No factual. The entire city is a shit hole. North side is the worst given the exclusive demographic.
It pains me to correct a Brit on the correct pronunciation of the English language but for the good of the world - I must.
It's St. LOO-IS not LOO-WEE. We're not French, my dear former colonial master.
Amen!
French word sure he got it right
@@sammy71500 he technically did but that just not how we pronounce it
Request fewer commercials. Eight minutes in and have learned essentially one thing.
Democrat run cities... Chicago massive pension timebomb
Psychotic, sociopathic folk have ruined the city.
Chicago metro area population is shrinking whereas St. Louis metro area is slightly growing
From St. Louis here. Perhaps this is how rivalry between Chicago and St. Louis began????
If you don’t acknowledge the split between the Saint Louis County and Saint Louis city you failed to understand the crime crisis. Population density in is directly correlated to crime rate.
If you don't understand that crime data is based on cities and not counties, then you fail to understand the crime crisis. I understand it clearly, democrat controlled city of a high black population. Facts don't lie.
You picked very good drone shots of down town at the beginning of the video too! Love that downtown is very very nice.
Ironically visual politics supports the politics that lead into these problems.
How?
Prove it.
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@@gagetomerlin2497 Did you even watch the video?
@fuqc goggul Yeah, they also ignore that China is extracting more resources from Africa than colonizers ever had.
@@Tespri Did you watch the videos I sent you?
I am a native Missourian, something like 11th generation and I live in Saint Louis County.
There are so many other factors that led to the decline of Saint Louis City and the increase of crime in that area. There is also so much Missouri history left out of this video that impacted not just STL, but the state and surrounding region. You can’t separate it from the whole. Many of those facts are mentioned here in the comments, but not all.
And OMG each time he says “Lou-ee” I twitch a little. Good grief, man. Do your research. That’s as bad as consistently pronouncing someone’s name wrong - to their face.
It really is a tale of two cities. I'm a Southside city boy now living in a yuppie party of the city called Soulard. A large majority of this violence happens in north city. But it was interesting hearing about the poor decisions in regards to railroads.
If u look the st Louis homicide map u will see that the Southside has a lot of homicides, not as many as northside but still has a lot
What’s the middle like where south meets north
I know 2 people who were murdered in Soulard. One of them on busy Russell blvd in front of Bastille. I myself have been confronted by thugs on multiple occasions.
The economic segregation once you cross delmar is baffling and downright laughable. It was almost certainly deliberately done and it doesn’t surprise me that all the money stopped being invested into the areas on the other side of delmar where the blacks and others were forced to move the racism in this city is very deep and depressing.
Either u love my city #STL or u hate it don't care don't come here .... we st.lousian love it here .
Nope st louis is fucked you should visit st louis for yourself and it will be come apparent this place is to far gone to save
Must have been hell getting a drink in a saloon in the 1870s with a population of 300k !!!
There are places in London that this exact same thing is happening. I just can't quite work out what the common factor is.
Bastard children ban them
Racists
poverty
same reason it has with Detroit Chicago and Johannesburg
@Hansie Voko black people didn’t choose to be marginalized...
Every city has bad neighborhoods but if you know where to go St. Louis has many virtues and beautiful areas. Stop dwelling on the negativity. that’s what’s wrong with this country!!! East St Louis is bad but it is NOT St. Louis. My wife and I visited the city from Long Island and we love the areas we went to around the arch how to Union Station and we didn’t even go to the zoo or Forest Park or any of those museums
East St Louis is not St Louis but East St Louis is the Eastside of the St Louis Metro Area Eisenstein
St. Louis is dying. Politically they have gotten much worse over the last 20 year. Prosecutors will not prosecute so crime goes unchecked. Less police and a mayor that does not care. Excusing crime and penalizing business (1% tax on anyone that works for a company inside the city even if you work remote) aggressively chasing away growth.
At some point it is time to stop pouring tax dollars into these cities.
It’s not dying. True the size has diminished but there is small growth going on.
@@xftbllplyr2091 very small localized growth that usually dies shortly after starting.
St Louis has been considered a violent city for 40 years.
It has been absolute shit since the 60s
St. Louis is FAR from the roughest city in America. Believe me, I know.
Well that is according to some Mexicans. You know from that stable, law abiding new model country to your south.
They are basing it on this:
"St. Louis, Missouri. With 64.54 murders per 100,000 residents, St. Louis had the highest murder rate for any major American city in 2019."
But do give be an example of a worse place, always interesting
how xcactly do u know
I went to school for about 3 years there and I loved it with all the negative and positive....you just needs to figure out where you going and what you are doing and you should be fine!
4:09 I love how they always put a reference of argentine economy on their videos, even when the whole video is about some place else. Greetings from Argentina, where progress goes backwards.🇦🇷🇦🇷
Your good humour does you great credit. As an Englishman who has lived in St Louis, Chicago, New York, BA and Rosario, I would choose the Argentine cities without hesitation.
@@olivergorman3419 well, BA and Rosario are full of crime. In those cities you can't live peacefully unless you live in a closed neighborhood. Sorry but I can't believe you choose an argentine city over NY lol
This video really loves to add fluff and beat around the bush. They never really described clearly what was pulling the city down. Sorry but this video announcer is just patronizing to his audience. Get rid of him.
The brightest people in the city are around the CWE and leave as soon as they finish residency training. No one with a bright future stays in St. Louis (or Missouri for that matter), so many better places to establish a career and family
Is there anything in common to the population all the cities highest in crime in the US???
Can’t seem to put my finger on it 🤔🤔
High levels of bastard children with no male centric leadership programs
I bet Michael brown was a outstanding citizen
If you want to be consistent and pronounce St. Luis arbitrarily as if it were a place name in France then we should pronounce Detroit and New Orleans using French pronunciations as well. So Detrwah, and new Orlayaan. Leicestershire would have 4 syllables instead of 3. And Birmingham with a nice nasal final "ham". Kiribati like Kir ih bah tee.
Zzzzzzzzzzzz. This is your solitary comment on an interesting well researched video.
It is a french word though.
New Orleans and Detroit aren't because they were renamed.
(Nouvelle-Orléans and Détroit are the french words.)
However you kept the french spelling for St-Louis, hence expect every latin speaker to call it the proper way.
🎶You gotta loose your mind in Detrwah Rock City!🎶
There is no real standard, the pronunciation is the narrators choice
He's European so give him a break I'm European too and pronounce it the same way
Saint Lou-ie with the hard "t" and silent "s". This is like a St. Louisan pronouncing Edinburgh on first sight. Maybe it's revenge. Lol
I don't wander the entire city, but I'm not sure about the no-go zones. 😒
@@sunMMVIII how is it said? San Lewis?
@@overworlder San Lewis/louie is still a little odd but still better.
Sain*t* Lewi*s*. All consonants pronounced. "Saint Louie" is a weird old-timey pronunciation - you can say it if you want to be playful - but its not really used.
I knew a guy from Lewisville, Kentucky.
@@sasjme81 Yeah, that's a hard one. When I finally learned that Louisville Kentucky is usually pronounced lou-a-v(u)l (gotta say it fast), I didn't believe it when I found actual cities named Lewisville spelled and pronounced as expected. And people pronounce the baseball bats Louieville sluggers.
What a joke. No bars on windows. No graphiitti No sheets over bodies.
Interesting Facts about St Louis City: St Louis City or (Saint Louis) Separated from St Louis County in 1876-1877 known as the "Great Divorce" the City of St Louis people were unhappy with the St Louis County government about the County Taxes and and the City people don't feel like paying the County Taxes, The City people decided that they wanted to carve the City away from the County and now the city of St Louis can't expand any farther ever since the "Great Divorce" City of St Louis had gone down hill
Now have they stayed with the county instead of separating it, it would've become a booming matropolis.
@CrazyMikey4Life I know and its crazy
@CrazyMikey4Life Look at Kansas City Missouri for example they're booming like crazy as well and its the largest city in Missouri as well and has out grown the city of St.Louis by a long shot.
@CrazyMikey4Life I know and you can thank the Democrats for destroying the city of St.Louis. At least Kim Garner is going to prison and losing her job.
@CrazyMikey4Life Its the years of poor decisions is what made the city of St.Louis the most deadliest city in America.
North Saint Louis is scarier than the Gaza Strip
The crime in the city--when it is considered per capita--is the damning element in the analysis, and really the only way to bring context to St. Louis city crime. Violent crime in the city is over 1000% higher than the national average. That St. Louis County is very safe doesn't negate the crime nearby in the city itself. People have decided to stop riding the Metrolink downtown, even when this takes them to the ever-popular St. Louis Cardinals baseball games. St. Louis City is a war zone. And areas directly sharing borders with the city are increasingly in peril. Clayton, Missouri serves as a good example. Because of travel on the urban train system which effectively brings the ghetto to the county, Clayton is losing its luster. It is the affluent county seat of St. Louis County but nearby malls and theatres are places where many from the county will no longer frequent, and proximity to the city border isn't helping this. People are terrified of talking about the crime problem is the city because it is largely black-on-black. Read Heather McDonald's book "The War On Cops." Though it is written about another city, its premises are eternal and its statistical analysis doesn't lie. It suggests, powerfully, that there is no such thing as a safe urban environment in the United States. St. Louis is certainly unsafe.
Democrat run city. Every major city that is held by a democrat has seen a steady rise in crime, from New York City, Houston, LA, Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, DC, Philly, St.Louis, San Francisco, Stockton, etc. are all democrat controlled cities. They keep voting for them and expecting a different out come. Hmmm, I wonder what that's called? Oh, that's right, it's called insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.
Only crime ridden areas in the county are mainly in North County like Ferguson, Jennings, Kinloch, and Florissant.
@@CJColvin Yes. And those places might as well be the city. You forgot a few: Bel-Nor, Bel-Ridge, Wellston, Riverview, Moline Acres, Glasgow Village, Bellefontaine Neighbors, and on and on and on. Crime pushes westward to the Missouri River across nearly all of North County now. Hence the growth of places like St. Charles and O'Fallon--big time white flight where people sell their homes and move before the property values plummet. It is a gargantuan mess. And it won't reverse. It never does. Even places like Hazelwood and Old Town Florissant (safe as recently as the 80s) are being ruined. What a shame. Sorry. What was your point?
@@superbug1977 My point is that the city of St.Louis is by far the deadliest city in America and its in a state thats number one in meth labs as well which those 2 reasons itself gives Missouri but Kansas City Missouri (aka Missouri's largest city) also seems to have issues as well (though not the same amount of issues the city of St.Louis has), also that's why they're trying to merge the city of St.Louis with St.Louis County so it can not only make our region look better but also make the city of St.Louis look like it isn't bad but to me they're just doing it to play with number as it won't make a difference at all except our taxes will be alot higher while thugs will still be roaming in the streets.
@@CJColvin I completely agree.
What a waste of time. This video said nothing but there were many commercials!
It’s not that bad
It really isn't.
The reason why sometimes crime is very high is sometimes what I hear on the news is that the circuit attorney is not doing her job right. She is supposed to be making the violent drug dealers and gang bangers pay for their crimes severely, Not let them off with just a slap on the wrist. Worst of all, the circuit attorney even will lie about her wrong doings. However, I am friends who is on Facebook who is advocating on ways to clean up the city.
The pronunciation is in revenge after years of Yank's mispronunciation of half of UK, Australian and New Zealand place names.
Rise up Greenwich, Brisbane and every Kiwi place name of Maori derivation.
(Just a bit of fun - his pronunciation struck me as being incorrect)
Now this is a justification for the mispronunciation I can respect.
@@chris7263 I've lived in the U.S. all my life and I've never seen a "yank".
It’s such a shame. There is so much space that could be utilized down there.
My home and where I at now lol
i would say iam happy for u but i have just watched the video lol
Bleak. Looks a real sh1thole....
Are you banging?
Nice video, a lot of stuff about my city I didn’t even know. Thank you.