Or maybe they're simply just both inspired by the same thing that exists in real life? Something tells me the person who made the Ideas submission isn't the person that invented automatic garbage trucks, or the mechanism(s) they use. You really can't say it was their idea, and while the mechanisms are similar in function, that and the superfluous fact that they're both garbage trucks are literally the only similarities between the two. Otherwise they're completely different models, even down to the colour scheme.
I feel like if you designed a modern garbage truck with a play feature you'd kind of end up with similar mechanisms anyway. Not like it's the first lego garbage truck either, so idk.
I think it's a great, affordable entry to get into the Tecnic modeling experience. The truck may serve as inspiration to build battery loading stations, dump sites etc. It'll be fun!
The controversy with the 'similarity to rejected Ideas winners' thing is kind of more a testament to how, at this point, 10,000 supporters is sort of a really low number for what amounts to an internet poll. When it was a small project and 10k fans represented mass consensus of the project across many demographics, maybe, but the fact that essentially any set based on any IP can reach 10k supporters is a pretty clear sign it should be closer to 50 or 100k. The sheer volume of projects submitted to Ideas means inevitably something similar will come. ...and besides, people who make submissions to Ideas don't conceptually /own/ what they submitted, so certainly the person who put forth 'a side loader garbage truck' isn't the sole proprietor of the concept. It's literally the real function on the real truck.
Yes, but the problem that was raised here is a match of not the total conception of "some garbage truck with side-loading arm" but an idea of the single-action knob that grabs the junk bin and then lift and knocks it over via a consequentially connected angled and straight gears that locks each other. On one hand, the IDEA submission was nice and clear and deserved a System/Creater dedicated set that would work amazingly and give credit to the author of this amazing "grab-n-lift" concept. And "stealing" this idea was totally unfair act by TLG. On other hand, the submitted modes don't have a Copyright protection and TLG are in rule to do whatever they wanted, as they doesn't violate anything. As a result, it makes other MOCers thingk that IDEA is a bad place to submit their inventions, where they will be more likely cannibalized rather than awarded.
This is a good set, plenty functional, pretty affordable and a decent size. It's also probably one of the few Technic sets that's almost compatible in someone's Lego City. Because it's actually very similarly sized to the similarly priced Recycling Truck from the City theme, which was a tiny bit smaller.
I instantly thought of the Lego Ideas set. I hate that we don't get smaller Lego Ideas sets anymore. Everything is $80+. The only cheaper one I can think of that came out recently was the space one but that's not even a proper Lego build. It's more like an art set
Small, but very cool set. Mack reminds me older little, but functional sets like 42120, 42121 or 42060. The front panel is doubtful, but on this scale it will be extremely problematic to do without stickers and make a similar front part. It sounds like a cool challenge to try to do better than the original!
Congrats on 200k subscribers! You definitely deserve it. Really cool looking sets love the garbage pick up function, absolutely genius! Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you!
Bought one and i love it. I disconnected the rear-axles and made the rear-wheels to single-wheel-spinning. Now, it ist one of the finest HOG-Sets i´ve ever built.
The person behind the mechanism is an absolute genius, I forget his name but it was a Lego idea I believe Also at the end, that design is simply brilliant and saying just anyone would’ve found it out on their own is just bananas to say, clearly defending Lego there I see
After building this I like the model with the thoughts that the grabbing mechanism could be better designed. The front side arm slides out and when you actuate the arm, it rubs and pushes the "control panel" piece off.
200K, congrats! About the garbage truck - it should've been made when it was submitted to Lego Ideas originally and credited the original creator of the mechanism. Also it would be good if the dumping worked well... Finally - For Lego Ideas to be FAIR in such situation, whenever a submission is out of competition, the rights to it should be back to the original creator and not like now for 3 years still owned by Lego.
@@RacingBrick I rushed the response - I've seen in Sariel's review that the tiles kept staying on the chute. The original submission on Ideas on the other hand, iirc, had a separate mechanism to push the garbage from the grabber area to the back side which was lifted, here we have a shaped chute that doesn't guarantee the garbage to not get stuck on it. Maybe it depends on how dynamically/fast you will operate the grabber so the tiles are thrown at the chute instead of just falling down.
One can only dream of a day where white plastic and white stickers can coexist in the same shade. I wish the Lego art department well on their long quest to find the matching color sticker
Gonna point out again how blatant lego's copying of an idea's submission is literally they released this right before the designer turned 18 and was eligible to upload the set to the bricklink designer program. Really scumbag move by lego.
I will admit, I am one of the very few who thought it was a mechanized set of sorts. Not disappointed that it isn't though. I find the little nob mechanism quite interesting
The axis that connects the rear door with the body 4:00 has 2 round pieces on its left end, but nothing on the right. I made it look symmetrical by using the round elements from the left-over pieces and added them on the right end of the axis.
The problem with the white of the stickers not matching the white of the pieces they're applied to wouldn't be there if Lego used clear-backed stickers. I have some Exo-Force sets from 2006 and their stickers look perfect, have not started crumbling, and can still be peeled off and re-applied flawlessly today. Meanwhile all my other, non-clear-backed stickers are in various states of decay. Why does Lego not use clear-backed stickers more often? Or, hear me out: make less licensed models. Then there's no pressure to make the model look like some real-life thing, which means less details need to be expressed with stickers, which means the few remaining unbrickbuildable decorations can be realized with prints (which can more easily be re-used in later models as well as mocs). Prints are "clear-backed" by definition.
Congrats on 200k! Well deserved. As for the "Electric" naming, those that know Lego would probably seecit as a description of the prototype vehicl3. But those buying this as a gift for a grandchild, for example, might well think this was a description of the features of the model. I honestly dont know why Lego included the word, it adds nothing to the model as far as I can tell
To be fair, I find it weird that you just hit 200,000. If I had to guess, I would have thought you were somewhere around 400,000. Congratulations on not being as big as you should be 😁
A very cool set. It has a pleasant look and sufficient functionality for the price. Using System pieces well finishes the appearance. Thanks for a good review!
I like this set because of the functions but this is a 8+ set so I’m not going for buying it. I’m surprised LEGO switched to paper bags instead of plastic bags. What a big change LEGO made
Nope, the one you are talking about regularly appears in all different kinds of sets - www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=32072&idColor=86#T=P&C=86 The new one has the cross axle hole in it rotated by 45 degrees.
Fantastic affordable Technic build with great functionality. Interesting seeing paper bags finally showing up in these new sets. Still not a good substitute for a good sized parts bowl though. Big congrats on 200 thousand subs. Well earned for the amazing content and in depth reviews.
If anything Lego should change the colour of the white plastic. Sure, it wouldn’t look right with older elements, but their white parts have always had a slight yellowish tint, making them not as nice as they could be, as opposed to a more pure white like the stickers
Thank you for the video. I live in Western Canada. My pieces came in the traditional plastic bags. Also I think that new Knob gear @ 2:55 was used years ago is builds lke 8415 (dump truck). I'm old, I know XD
Yeah this build is nothing similar to the mostly brick built submittal design by Levi and Scott Hasse except that it's a sideloading truck. I was able to replicate the side loading mechanism with compactor myself and even got a nice comment from Scott Hasse on how close I got to their design while giving them credit for the inspiration. My only concern with this one is the front Mack sticker that has to go over that depression in the plastic.
I will say I do understand the issue in the name, in fact that actually is what made me click on the video wondering how they got the electronics in to make that arm move… of course I realized quick it wasn’t “electric” but I’m not bothered! I do find the ideas issue to be quite interesting, this isn’t the first time it’s happened and when the truck was first showcased in action that was what I thought of. Sure as you say the mechanism is something that a designer could have though up, but still. I hope they sent the ideas user a copy of the set for free at least. Great review as always!
The arm mechanism on mine knocks the 1x4 flat piece with the sticker off every time. There is some backlash in the arm that causes it to rotate ever so slight and hit that tile. Have checked the assembly but can't figure out how to fix it 4:36
Congrats for 200k subs🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳. Iam watchning your videos since 2017. Iam glad you hit that big number! Amazing person who really deserve that. It was plessure to meet you two times on buwizz camp. Hopefuly I Will see you there again next year again to congrats you face to face! Ps.: my MOC will be maybe same fast as your's RC models🤫
The complains about the similarity with the ideas entry is nonsense imho. There were steam locomotives on ideas, now every steam locomotive LEGO releases would be a counterfeit? Of course there might be similarities if you design after a real thing.
Lego ideas will not submit anything that they plan on producing themselves which is probably why they didnt put the ideas set on shelves, in my personal opinion the technic looks a lot better
3:10 I'm not quite sure what you mean by that, maybe I'm just not seeing a gear or so in the video. What exactly stops you to just rotate the brown axle on the left by 45° so two identical gears would line up correctly? The only axle that is fixed in a specific position (by the black bevel gear) is the grey one on the right. The brown one can rotate freely if I'm seeing this correctly.
@@RacingBrick I understood that. But I see my mistake now. While the brown axle + gear can rotate freely and thus could be oriented in the way needed, the liftarm is obviously locked to 90° rotations on the axle. So yeah.. never mind i was just stupid there for a moment. 😀
2:05 allow me to recorrect you. The brown technic part your referring to I believe came in the Star Wars AT-Hauler set. I would know because I have that one.
i find it odd that this became its own set because the mack anthem set has this exact truck (all be it not the electric variant) as a alternative built
I really like the new LEGO piece!
And in my opinion, this set is inspired by the Ideas presentation.
new piece is nice but i do not think its inspired
I knew it wasn’t just me who thought this mechanism looks exactly like the that one garbage truck by the dad and son
Or maybe they're simply just both inspired by the same thing that exists in real life? Something tells me the person who made the Ideas submission isn't the person that invented automatic garbage trucks, or the mechanism(s) they use. You really can't say it was their idea, and while the mechanisms are similar in function, that and the superfluous fact that they're both garbage trucks are literally the only similarities between the two. Otherwise they're completely different models, even down to the colour scheme.
@@MaraMash bro wrote the whole Bible
I feel like if you designed a modern garbage truck with a play feature you'd kind of end up with similar mechanisms anyway. Not like it's the first lego garbage truck either, so idk.
In my opinion, this is the best looking of the new wave of Technic sets; and the one I will most likely try to get.
I think it's a great, affordable entry to get into the Tecnic modeling experience. The truck may serve as inspiration to build battery loading stations, dump sites etc. It'll be fun!
The controversy with the 'similarity to rejected Ideas winners' thing is kind of more a testament to how, at this point, 10,000 supporters is sort of a really low number for what amounts to an internet poll. When it was a small project and 10k fans represented mass consensus of the project across many demographics, maybe, but the fact that essentially any set based on any IP can reach 10k supporters is a pretty clear sign it should be closer to 50 or 100k. The sheer volume of projects submitted to Ideas means inevitably something similar will come.
...and besides, people who make submissions to Ideas don't conceptually /own/ what they submitted, so certainly the person who put forth 'a side loader garbage truck' isn't the sole proprietor of the concept. It's literally the real function on the real truck.
Yes, but the problem that was raised here is a match of not the total conception of "some garbage truck with side-loading arm" but an idea of the single-action knob that grabs the junk bin and then lift and knocks it over via a consequentially connected angled and straight gears that locks each other.
On one hand, the IDEA submission was nice and clear and deserved a System/Creater dedicated set that would work amazingly and give credit to the author of this amazing "grab-n-lift" concept. And "stealing" this idea was totally unfair act by TLG.
On other hand, the submitted modes don't have a Copyright protection and TLG are in rule to do whatever they wanted, as they doesn't violate anything.
As a result, it makes other MOCers thingk that IDEA is a bad place to submit their inventions, where they will be more likely cannibalized rather than awarded.
@@Void_s facts
Yes, agree with your comments. Come here to say the exact same thing.
the issue is that the side loading functionality are done the exact same way
I'm so glad you addressed the controversy while also avoiding bias.
Just finished building it with my six year old. It was a lot of fun. The bin lift mechanism is really nice. Looks good on the shelf! Great price.
Congrats on 200K!! 🥳🎉🎉
I'm amazed at these two-function mechanisms Lego is using now! First the Indiana Jones diorama and now this; it's really cool.
This is a good set, plenty functional, pretty affordable and a decent size.
It's also probably one of the few Technic sets that's almost compatible in someone's Lego City. Because it's actually very similarly sized to the similarly priced Recycling Truck from the City theme, which was a tiny bit smaller.
I instantly thought of the Lego Ideas set. I hate that we don't get smaller Lego Ideas sets anymore. Everything is $80+. The only cheaper one I can think of that came out recently was the space one but that's not even a proper Lego build. It's more like an art set
Warm heart. Thanks for crediting the original designers for the container mechanism. They should get free shipping on this one
Small, but very cool set. Mack reminds me older little, but functional sets like 42120, 42121 or 42060. The front panel is doubtful, but on this scale it will be extremely problematic to do without stickers and make a similar front part. It sounds like a cool challenge to try to do better than the original!
It's pretty impressive that they managed to pack 3 functions into such a small kit, and at €35 it's very affordable. Makes a great present.
I like how the arm can pick up trash and it is very well engineered
Congrats on 200k subscribers! You definitely deserve it. Really cool looking sets love the garbage pick up function, absolutely genius! Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you!
I think this is a brillant set, the mechanism to grab the trash can is brillant
PS
I agree with you that whole "LEGO Ideas" procedure and mechanisms should be updated and adjusted.
So great to see this set reviewed, its what im looking forward to most
It's quite impressive that such a 'little' set is so super detailed and has so many awesome functions.
Bought one and i love it. I disconnected the rear-axles and made the rear-wheels to single-wheel-spinning. Now, it ist one of the finest HOG-Sets i´ve ever built.
Even as an adult technic collector, I will be grabbing this. Even I enjoy the smaller sets from time to time!
This truck looks like a great base for a crane truck.
The person behind the mechanism is an absolute genius, I forget his name but it was a Lego idea I believe
Also at the end, that design is simply brilliant and saying just anyone would’ve found it out on their own is just bananas to say, clearly defending Lego there I see
After building this I like the model with the thoughts that the grabbing mechanism could be better designed. The front side arm slides out and when you actuate the arm, it rubs and pushes the "control panel" piece off.
200K, congrats! About the garbage truck - it should've been made when it was submitted to Lego Ideas originally and credited the original creator of the mechanism. Also it would be good if the dumping worked well... Finally - For Lego Ideas to be FAIR in such situation, whenever a submission is out of competition, the rights to it should be back to the original creator and not like now for 3 years still owned by Lego.
Thanks! What do you mean "if the dumping worked well"? The mechanism works ok.
@@RacingBrick I rushed the response - I've seen in Sariel's review that the tiles kept staying on the chute. The original submission on Ideas on the other hand, iirc, had a separate mechanism to push the garbage from the grabber area to the back side which was lifted, here we have a shaped chute that doesn't guarantee the garbage to not get stuck on it. Maybe it depends on how dynamically/fast you will operate the grabber so the tiles are thrown at the chute instead of just falling down.
One can only dream of a day where white plastic and white stickers can coexist in the same shade. I wish the Lego art department well on their long quest to find the matching color sticker
Gonna point out again how blatant lego's copying of an idea's submission is literally they released this right before the designer turned 18 and was eligible to upload the set to the bricklink designer program. Really scumbag move by lego.
I miss the old plastic bags since they were see through
I will admit, I am one of the very few who thought it was a mechanized set of sorts. Not disappointed that it isn't though. I find the little nob mechanism quite interesting
I love this set and I love your channel. You represent my childhood passion for Lego.
lego frequently release sets that are suspiciously identical to ideas submissions. happens a lot
gotta love when new sets come out
New bag design is meta. Ability to place it on the side make it even more useful in storing lose pieces without spillage
I remember seeing that grabbing mechanism and thinking wait, that's the exact same system of that moc I saw a few years back
''Hmm Plastic bags inside a Paper bag'' got me tho😂😂😂
The axis that connects the rear door with the body 4:00 has 2 round pieces on its left end, but nothing on the right. I made it look symmetrical by using the round elements from the left-over pieces and added them on the right end of the axis.
Congratulations for hitting 200k subscribers!
congratulations on 200k subscribers!!!
Have a nice christmas!
Recently built this set with my dad. Sooo fun and we both love it! Definitely recommend
The problem with the white of the stickers not matching the white of the pieces they're applied to wouldn't be there if Lego used clear-backed stickers. I have some Exo-Force sets from 2006 and their stickers look perfect, have not started crumbling, and can still be peeled off and re-applied flawlessly today. Meanwhile all my other, non-clear-backed stickers are in various states of decay. Why does Lego not use clear-backed stickers more often?
Or, hear me out: make less licensed models. Then there's no pressure to make the model look like some real-life thing, which means less details need to be expressed with stickers, which means the few remaining unbrickbuildable decorations can be realized with prints (which can more easily be re-used in later models as well as mocs). Prints are "clear-backed" by definition.
Of course it was inspired, 100 + 10%
Congrats on 200k! Well deserved.
As for the "Electric" naming, those that know Lego would probably seecit as a description of the prototype vehicl3. But those buying this as a gift for a grandchild, for example, might well think this was a description of the features of the model. I honestly dont know why Lego included the word, it adds nothing to the model as far as I can tell
I would certainly like this a lot if I were 8-10 years old again.
Paper bags are long awaited item - finally!
Congratulations on 200000 subscribers!
200k RACINGBRICK!!! 🎉congratulations!!!! You achieved your goal dude! That’s amazing.🎉
To be fair, I find it weird that you just hit 200,000. If I had to guess, I would have thought you were somewhere around 400,000. Congratulations on not being as big as you should be 😁
Came back to this video after just getting one myself. Interestingly I got the old plastic bags instead of paper
A very cool set. It has a pleasant look and sufficient functionality for the price. Using System pieces well finishes the appearance. Thanks for a good review!
Congratulations on 200k subs! A great new year surprise for you surely huh? Hope you have a very joyous Christmas with your truck!
I like this set because of the functions but this is a 8+ set so I’m not going for buying it.
I’m surprised LEGO switched to paper bags instead of plastic bags. What a big change LEGO made
Asking this set for my birthday this looks like the perfect little set for in NL just 25 euros!
Congrats on 200K subs!! 🎉🎉
I really like these small sets with lots of functions this is the type of one but a little bigger and interesting
Definitely my most excited set for 2024 so far :P
That four-toothed gear isn't new, last appeared in set 8415 of 2005
Nope, the one you are talking about regularly appears in all different kinds of sets - www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=32072&idColor=86#T=P&C=86
The new one has the cross axle hole in it rotated by 45 degrees.
@@RacingBrick Ah sorry, I didn't see that difference
200,000 man!!! Congratulations! You deserve this! Has been fantastic years following your content!!
Fantastic affordable Technic build with great functionality. Interesting seeing paper bags finally showing up in these new sets. Still not a good substitute for a good sized parts bowl though. Big congrats on 200 thousand subs. Well earned for the amazing content and in depth reviews.
Hello everyone! As someone who JUST got it, said plastic bags, are now replaced with small paper bags too!
If anything Lego should change the colour of the white plastic. Sure, it wouldn’t look right with older elements, but their white parts have always had a slight yellowish tint, making them not as nice as they could be, as opposed to a more pure white like the stickers
I love this set
Thank you for the video. I live in Western Canada. My pieces came in the traditional plastic bags. Also I think that new Knob gear @ 2:55 was used years ago is builds lke 8415 (dump truck). I'm old, I know XD
The knob gear itself isn't new, but the grey version is a new variant with the cross axle hole rotated 45 degrees
200k 🥳
Other companies just have their stickers on transparent film, that way they don't have to worry about the colors being off.
Congrats on 200K subscribers!! 🎉🎉🎉 And the 42167 set is a great set for beginners and a good parts pack for Technic builders.
Yay 200K! And I hope that the new piece appears in other sets!!
This is a great Technic set for the price. Thanks for the review Balasz :)
Wow you actually reached 200K before 2024!! Congrats Balazs!!🥳🥳
My Walmart has this out early I absolutely love this set
Yeah this build is nothing similar to the mostly brick built submittal design by Levi and Scott Hasse except that it's a sideloading truck. I was able to replicate the side loading mechanism with compactor myself and even got a nice comment from Scott Hasse on how close I got to their design while giving them credit for the inspiration. My only concern with this one is the front Mack sticker that has to go over that depression in the plastic.
Congrats on your 200.000 subs!!! Truly deserved!!!!🎉🎉
nice! 200k subscribers!
Yasss! Compensation... something lego won't admit 🤭😋...the cullen house though? 🤔🤨
I liked seeing the pieces of reserve. Amazing!
Congrats on 200K
I will say I do understand the issue in the name, in fact that actually is what made me click on the video wondering how they got the electronics in to make that arm move… of course I realized quick it wasn’t “electric” but I’m not bothered!
I do find the ideas issue to be quite interesting, this isn’t the first time it’s happened and when the truck was first showcased in action that was what I thought of. Sure as you say the mechanism is something that a designer could have though up, but still. I hope they sent the ideas user a copy of the set for free at least.
Great review as always!
Congratulations on 200k subs!!! Keep up the great work 🎉🎉🎉
I like this set, I'll try making it be Minifigure compatible once it's clearly city compatible
The part warning is for us hardcore builders that like to just empty all bags at once haha
They should make the sticker background transparent
Definitely one of my favorite sets im 2024
I bought it its really fun!
I will admit I thought it had a chance to have some electrical components, but that was just hoping for a good deal on parts anyways.
It's like 42078 B models little brother
Congrats on 200k, Balazs!
Szia Balázs!
Ez a kis szett reggeli kávé mellé tökéletes lesz.
Köszönöm szépen a Magyar feliratot.
Üdv, Unoka.
The arm mechanism on mine knocks the 1x4 flat piece with the sticker off every time. There is some backlash in the arm that causes it to rotate ever so slight and hit that tile. Have checked the assembly but can't figure out how to fix it 4:36
Congrats for 200k subs🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳. Iam watchning your videos since 2017. Iam glad you hit that big number! Amazing person who really deserve that. It was plessure to meet you two times on buwizz camp. Hopefuly I Will see you there again next year again to congrats you face to face! Ps.: my MOC will be maybe same fast as your's RC models🤫
Thank you! Can't wait to see what you built ;)
Such mechanism was alredy in mindstorms EV3 (grab and lift) do i guess concept is not the „stealing”
The complains about the similarity with the ideas entry is nonsense imho. There were steam locomotives on ideas, now every steam locomotive LEGO releases would be a counterfeit? Of course there might be similarities if you design after a real thing.
Yes. Same thing for the Fiat 500, two models based on the same vehicle are bound to be similar. Doesn't mean one is a copy of the other.
Lego ideas will not submit anything that they plan on producing themselves which is probably why they didnt put the ideas set on shelves, in my personal opinion the technic looks a lot better
What set of Lego would you recommend to a young up to 10-ish year old technician? 😊
3:10 I'm not quite sure what you mean by that, maybe I'm just not seeing a gear or so in the video. What exactly stops you to just rotate the brown axle on the left by 45° so two identical gears would line up correctly? The only axle that is fixed in a specific position (by the black bevel gear) is the grey one on the right. The brown one can rotate freely if I'm seeing this correctly.
The difference is the orientation of the axle hole in the gear.
@@RacingBrick I understood that. But I see my mistake now. While the brown axle + gear can rotate freely and thus could be oriented in the way needed, the liftarm is obviously locked to 90° rotations on the axle. So yeah.. never mind i was just stupid there for a moment. 😀
2:05 allow me to recorrect you. The brown technic part your referring to I believe came in the Star Wars AT-Hauler set. I would know because I have that one.
I said it's not new in this color, but it was never used in a Technic set. I guess your AT-Hauler isn't a Technic set ;)
Congrats on 200K!!
I got this set and it's great for the price but, I didn't get any paper bags in this set. Is something to do with me living in New Zealand?
2:49 Step 1 for building tatra trucks 😅
I feel so sad and unfair for a Lego Ideas Project!! So many of them have been rejected and later made by Lego!
OMG, I need this!!!!
How do you apply stickers and make sure they are straight?
It's a garbage truck. People are really scraping the bottom of the barrel for "controversies."
The steering is accurate for a mack they don't turn very tight😂😂
i find it odd that this became its own set because the mack anthem set has this exact truck (all be it not the electric variant) as a alternative built