CT1 is Incredible, it's also good as a vibration damper too as it remains 'rubbery' when set, and can be removed easily with only a sharp blade years later. Worth every penny.
I've been using spray foam in a lot of situations where I used to use this type of adhesive, only one i ever had big problems with is the solvent version of the gripfill, skins over won't stick sometimes.
I have been using CT1 since the 2000's. I only buy cheaper products if performance is not required. I like CT1 as it doesn't give off odour when setting, and can be smoothed out/tooled very nicely if Multisolve is sprayed on it. A tip for anyone using CT1 to make repairs is to use the aluminium repair mesh (Halfords) If the CT1 one is applied through the mesh it makes an extremely strong patch repair. If needing mould resistant sealant in bathrooms, use BT1. It has additional mould inhibitors over the standard CT1. Very usefully, Toolstation now stock CT1 colours, BT1 and now Multisolve!
In terms of price/performance then you're probably right. I'm using Soudal Fix All at the moment, both Standard and Turbo. Slightly more expensive than Multistick but I do prefer it.
I'm a big soudal fan. I've used lots of different ones from them. Currently using a high track product , recently pushed a 3x3 X 12 to the wall and it didn't fall off or slip and was ready to be fixed to within a few hours.
The three problems with these adhesives I found are dusty surfaces, skinning over and running beads. The first is solved by good surface prep, the second use the correct product and make sure it's still in date and third if the surfaces are not close use blobs not beads as often beads are too small to stick or pull apart if there is any movement.
I use loads of that toolstation instant nails. For anything like skirting it's great. You don't need to stick skirting on with the strongest gear going
Great test, thanks for doing this - Stixall all day long for me and has never let me down, Gorilla glue for glueing wood, really impressive stuff - Really enjoy these tests
There's only one tube I go for.......CT1 wins hands down every time , it's also brilliant for making threaded seals in plumbing work , the best on the market , it's expensive but it gets the job DONE........ 👍
Long term review. Gripfill green. I stuck some timber to the garage floor as a draught excluder behind the bottom of the garage door. That was over 25 years ago. Damp, frozen and the heat of the summer. It is still rock solid. CT1. I repaired a suitcase with CT1 over 20 years ago, it got a lot of use as I used to work for an airline. Very cold temperatures in aircraft holds and very hot temperatures around the world. Still holding strong, it is holding an aluminium repair patch onto the plastic case.
Im split what I would prefer I think the weaker ones may be better as you can replace them later without damaging the wall finish too much Certainly will be enough to keep em there for a few years
Even the worst one took a surprising weight and actually it's probably 10x stronger than it needs to be for skirting/architrave. Anything stronger has the potential to pull the plaster off the walls!
Used a couple of tubes of GripFill Original recently, and have no complaints about the performance, but a good proportion of the contents was lost out of the back of the tubes.
Need to do this test again sticking metal to metal, take the substrate out of the equation so we get a winner. That was a bit school sports day with no losers. Come on Roge sort the men out from the boys and let's see who's best 👍
@@jameshurst3279 so if you were in a loft surrounded by combustible material trying to stick two metal parts together you'd use a WELDER LOL. Nice one James 👍
I would be interested to know on how these products will perform after there about a year to 2 years old and see how they perform as they get on to that on the blocks that haven't failed
ive done a similar test with totally different results. the sciencer you used here also is weather dependent, what wood you used, how much pressure you used against the wood. for example if you used different amounts of pressure on each test, this could give different results leading to a missleading experiment.
Glad to see gripfil and pinkgrip perform really well as i use them on a regular basis especially when i need instant grab its pinkgrip. Think the gripfil extra is better initial grab and cure time than the original
The density of the softwood e.g. pieces with knots in VS large grain will vary the adhesive absorption and keying into the substraight. Best not to use natural materials to remove unaccounted for variants
Would love to see the performance of these with a brick on concrete block wall. Need to do some stone cladding and testing a few different options due to the stones porosity. Great vid 👍🏼
A big thing for me is how it comes out the tube and is it easy to clean off. Because pink grip is a pain in the ass and clear stixall is nice to work with. 🤷🏽♂️
I asked guys at Toolstation which they sold most and told me Sticks Like Shit so have used ever since. Before that I had tried to take off a curtain rail mount client said his neighbour put woth Stick Like and even struggled with multitool. Never had a problem with any No Nonsense or Evostick products, always top notch
Great video guys. I remember a wallpaper adhesive advert in the 80’s when I was a young lad that had a guy glued to a board hovering over shark filled waters.......could be a filming idea for the next one Rog! 🦈👌🏼🏴👍🏼
Solvite, my brother in law was part of the marketing team for that. The thing is that it was wallpaper paste and never needed to be that good. The big thing with wallpaper is how easy it is to remove when your wife says " In never really liked that pattern"
Pink grip is above adequate for most jobs, then its a mechanical fixing combined, would never rely on any stand alone glue unless there's no stresses put on on it. Good review 👍
Great video. I’m trying to stick a plastic bath side to wooden frame as every time door is opened it pops off. No windows in the bathroom. Which one will stick it, as tried epoxy gorilla glue and didn’t do the job. Thanks for making the video
Really great test and results thanks. Quick question how do you save the rest in the tube. Ive try putting tape on the end. Even bought screw on ends. Im not talking about the DIYer want to save it years. Just want to use it next month.
There was this hardware store near to my old workplace which had been going years but finally decided to call it a day. They always had a lot of customers but I think the owners just wanted to retire and sell-up to property developers. I think they started the sale at 20% off. The entire stock of green gripfill sold out in a day.
I love these types of videos. As someone who sells these products day in day out to builders it's very interesting to see how they perform. My go to for an all round recommendation is the Everbuild Multi Stick
Went to a job in Glasgow where the kitchen cabinets had been gripfill originalled to the wall with 2 nails holding them up while it dried . When the woman filled the big one with soup tinns and whatnot it came down along with the plaster skim coat . Very dangerous .
Since using the green Gripfix for render beads I wouldn't go back to masonery nails/screws/staples. The only part of the job I don't like is cleaning the stuff off anything I use to spread it over the mesh.
@@SkillBuilder that was always my biggest worry. When you go to mitre architraves up and them lift them into position, just the twisting of timber would brake the bond. But not if it holds 22kg!
bought an old leaky caravan to live in whilst house was being built . . 1 tube of stixall ,tottally waterproof when it was given away over 3 years later..
Bugger! This came just at the wrong time for me, last week I bought 20 of the yellow gripfills and have been doing my skirtings+architraves with them. I'll stick with it because I don't plan on putting 20kgs on them but would've probably gone with one of the others had I known!
You don't need the extra adhesive power for skirtings .tbh I've been using instant nails one of the cheapest for years for skirtings never had any problems and any excess cleans up really well the polymers are a pain in the ass where excess is concerned
I used to work for a london shopfitting firm who wouldnt pay for these tubes we had to fit the skirting with PVA to the plaster , you know what it didnt half hold it on, we had to change a few thing around and rip of some skirting after a few weeks, what a nightmare to get off, and a load cheaper
This is a good one but pretty much non of them are instant but what a tradesman wants to know is how long will it take to stick enough to continue a project. I suggest a 1hr 2hr 3hr and 4hr test or something like that?
Good informative video, with the minefield of products out thereWhich silicon do you recommend for sealing showers? I once remember you advising a 79%+ silicon, but the tube information, doesn't specify how much silicon is present, in the tube content make up.
Pink Grip may be good BUT the nozzle is not screw-on so you can't cling film the cartridge to use another day. Is that why it is labelled not for DIY use?
I personally think everbuilds instant nails isn’t very good at all for sticking purposes as I found out for myself while doing a decorating job - it’s more of a sealant than an adhesive in my opinion because it’s water based and solvent free. Personally I prefer to use Gripfill and especially the pink version as they are fairly cheap and well priced for what you get. Stuck architraves, skirting and so many other materials down with the stuff and it works a treat for me! Seems like the gripfill extra is a massive scam! Fair test that roger!
I would certainly agree with what you say about instant nails, it has never lived up to the claims made for it in adverts. The only thing going for it is that you can find it everywhere, and there's been a few times when I have had to resort to it, knowing just how rubbish it is, because I could not get hold of anything else. Also beware of Pinkgrip - it has a tendency to sink and shrink which can result in less of a bond than what you might have thought you got.
This is so exciting, in fact it’s gripping!
... get out
@@galvanizedgnome He can't, he's stuck.
@@galvanizedgnome he’s here all week
socking bad cliche mate; fair play :-)
It’s just adhesive, get a grip...
It's always nice seeing the cheaper brands beating out the expensive ones.
CT1 is Incredible, it's also good as a vibration damper too as it remains 'rubbery' when set, and can be removed easily with only a sharp blade years later. Worth every penny.
A good adhesive is bathroom silicon £5
I've been using spray foam in a lot of situations where I used to use this type of adhesive, only one i ever had big problems with is the solvent version of the gripfill, skins over won't stick sometimes.
I have been using CT1 since the 2000's. I only buy cheaper products if performance is not required. I like CT1 as it doesn't give off odour when setting, and can be smoothed out/tooled very nicely if Multisolve is sprayed on it. A tip for anyone using CT1 to make repairs is to use the aluminium repair mesh (Halfords) If the CT1 one is applied through the mesh it makes an extremely strong patch repair.
If needing mould resistant sealant in bathrooms, use BT1. It has additional mould inhibitors over the standard CT1. Very usefully, Toolstation now stock CT1 colours, BT1 and now Multisolve!
Multistick is my usual. Glad to see it did well and doesn't cost much. Let's hope they don't whack the price up to £12.50 now!
Check your shower.
Ditto, great cost/performance balance! As to paying £12+ for a tube of adhesive: Nay danger!
It takes a few days to go off
In terms of price/performance then you're probably right. I'm using Soudal Fix All at the moment, both Standard and Turbo. Slightly more expensive than Multistick but I do
prefer it.
I'm a big soudal fan. I've used lots of different ones from them. Currently using a high track product , recently pushed a 3x3 X 12 to the wall and it didn't fall off or slip and was ready to be fixed to within a few hours.
The three problems with these adhesives I found are dusty surfaces, skinning over and running beads. The first is solved by good surface prep, the second use the correct product and make sure it's still in date and third if the surfaces are not close use blobs not beads as often beads are too small to stick or pull apart if there is any movement.
Evo stik "sticks like s*hit" and ct1s Power Grab n Bond don't require surface prep apparently.
Would have loved to see a general purpose silicon too here.
I use loads of that toolstation instant nails. For anything like skirting it's great. You don't need to stick skirting on with the strongest gear going
What do you use to hold boards adhering when the wall is bowed in or out
@@handle1196 screws 🤣 or sticks like shit turbo and wedge it up if it's pre painted gear
Ultimate Handyman did a similar test a couple years ago, thanks for the updated comparison.
Yes it was a good test, it shows how good these adhesives are
Fantastic video. Well-designed real-life tests. Superb.
Great test, thanks for doing this - Stixall all day long for me and has never let me down, Gorilla glue for glueing wood, really impressive stuff - Really enjoy these tests
There's only one tube I go for.......CT1 wins hands down every time , it's also brilliant for making threaded seals in plumbing work , the best on the market , it's expensive but it gets the job DONE........ 👍
Nice test. Where the substrate fails could it be that the glue itself penetrates the surface and weakens the top layer of the substrate?
That is true and we did consider that but it is very hard to know. We may look at that in the future.
Pinkgrip and Stixall for me. Stixall great for under water use.
I always use CT1 it can also be used as a sealant in bathrooms and roofs etc.
Long term review.
Gripfill green. I stuck some timber to the garage floor as a draught excluder behind the bottom of the garage door.
That was over 25 years ago. Damp, frozen and the heat of the summer. It is still rock solid.
CT1. I repaired a suitcase with CT1 over 20 years ago, it got a lot of use as I used to work for an airline. Very cold temperatures in aircraft holds and very hot temperatures around the world. Still holding strong, it is holding an aluminium repair patch onto the plastic case.
Pinkgrip is unreal levels of strong I've stuck very bowed skirting boards on and it's not moved in years.
Im split what I would prefer
I think the weaker ones may be better as you can replace them later without damaging the wall finish too much
Certainly will be enough to keep em there for a few years
Even the worst one took a surprising weight and actually it's probably 10x stronger than it needs to be for skirting/architrave. Anything stronger has the potential to pull the plaster off the walls!
Ive stuck thick Yorkshire stone toppers with sticks all and very little , crazy stuff
Soudal makes me proud to be Belgian. Their products never disappoint.
Good Soudal Quick Step team as well. I was in Beligum last week for the cycling.
Used a couple of tubes of GripFill Original recently, and have no complaints about the performance, but a good proportion of the contents was lost out of the back of the tubes.
Need to do this test again sticking metal to metal, take the substrate out of the equation so we get a winner. That was a bit school sports day with no losers. Come on Roge sort the men out from the boys and let's see who's best 👍
@UCgsLkWBW-cQVEs_IgkchD1A no need for you to watch the revised test old son....but we both know you will
I think Roger has proven that these adhesives are over engineered. I think I’d use a welder if I wanted to stick metal to metal.
@@jameshurst3279 so if you were in a loft surrounded by combustible material trying to stick two metal parts together you'd use a WELDER LOL. Nice one James 👍
@@allmanjason29 no I’d use a nut and bolt 😂
Yeah, one small blob and a straight downwards pull with a Newton metre would give us exact scores
Great Video Roger. Robin Clevett did a video like this a while back. Really like seeing products being tested in this way. Thanks
Video deserves a hats off, concise with scientific method 👏 👌
🤝
Interesting comparison. I couldn't tear myself away.
I used ob1 on my work boots as the soles were coming apart 5 weeks they lasted wearing them 5 days a week for 10 hours a day. I was very in pressed.
Good test. I was rooting for the mitre fast tbh 😂. I don't like how fast the gripfill skins over but it does do a job.
Nice comprehensive and concise test. Feel a lot more confident in these products now, ta!
Gripfill green is the go to best all rounder
We use Stixall to fix stainless sheet to granite and its not coming apart without a chisel!
The one i use too...unbelievably strong stuff!
I’m about to glue a stainless steel under sink to a composite counter top so this is very interesting 🤔
Topman Roger. somebody needs to do this sort of test you are a consumer champion.
Brilliant! Can you guys also upload on 1440p? Thanks!
I would be interested to know on how these products will perform after there about a year to 2 years old and see how they perform as they get on to that on the blocks that haven't failed
Look for my review of Gripfill 25 years and CT1 at 20 years.
ive done a similar test with totally different results. the sciencer you used here also is weather dependent, what wood you used, how much pressure you used against the wood. for example if you used different amounts of pressure on each test, this could give different results leading to a missleading experiment.
"Sudden and catastrophic FAILURE!" My mate Roger Bisby watching me drive on the first tee...
Hello James, I don't know how you find the time with all those heat pumps to put in and oil boilers to rip out. You must be coining it.
@@SkillBuilder 🤣🤣
@@SkillBuilder haha! Total load of tosh aren’t they!?
Glad to see gripfil and pinkgrip perform really well as i use them on a regular basis especially when i need instant grab its pinkgrip. Think the gripfil extra is better initial grab and cure time than the original
A bit of an eye opener, I've always used solvent free gripfill....not any more!
So Roger, which of these would you recommend to stick an air source heat pump up a wall. 😬
I prefer Stixall, it's pretty bloody good stuff , and what makes it even better a local independent hardware shop near me sells it for £3.09 a tube!!
The density of the softwood e.g. pieces with knots in VS large grain will vary the adhesive absorption and keying into the substraight. Best not to use natural materials to remove unaccounted for variants
As best I know, adhering most things to concrete block? Lexel. It keeps getting stronger over time. Stuck my Poly to a solid brick in 2018
Would love to see the performance of these with a brick on concrete block wall. Need to do some stone cladding and testing a few different options due to the stones porosity.
Great vid 👍🏼
A big thing for me is how it comes out the tube and is it easy to clean off. Because pink grip is a pain in the ass and clear stixall is nice to work with. 🤷🏽♂️
I asked guys at Toolstation which they sold most and told me Sticks Like Shit so have used ever since.
Before that I had tried to take off a curtain rail mount client said his neighbour put woth Stick Like and even struggled with multitool. Never had a problem with any No Nonsense or Evostick products, always top notch
Great test boss we need more of these product testing
Great video guys. I remember a wallpaper adhesive advert in the 80’s when I was a young lad that had a guy glued to a board hovering over shark filled waters.......could be a filming idea for the next one Rog! 🦈👌🏼🏴👍🏼
Solvite, my brother in law was part of the marketing team for that. The thing is that it was wallpaper paste and never needed to be that good. The big thing with wallpaper is how easy it is to remove when your wife says " In never really liked that pattern"
@@SkillBuilder There is the wisdom of a married man.
Pink grip is above adequate for most jobs, then its a mechanical fixing combined, would never rely on any stand alone glue unless there's no stresses put on on it. Good review 👍
I've used a good few in the review. My preference, Pink Grip. Very reliable.
Ive used ct1 to make a repair underwater in a swimming pool and it worked great . Added chemical resistance helped
I have done the very same thing, works well.
Great video. I’m trying to stick a plastic bath side to wooden frame as every time door is opened it pops off. No windows in the bathroom. Which one will stick it, as tried epoxy gorilla glue and didn’t do the job. Thanks for making the video
Always have CT1 on the van. Tried 0B1 recently. Not bad either!
Really great test and results thanks. Quick question how do you save the rest in the tube. Ive try putting tape on the end. Even bought screw on ends. Im not talking about the DIYer want to save it years. Just want to use it next month.
We use gripfill extra for skirting because of its extra initial grab which is better than standard gripfill
Great video, as always. Really appreciate your/teams time in making g these videos.
Thanks guys! Prepare to hear in the news that there is now a shortage of OG gripfill due to trades panic buying
There was this hardware store near to my old workplace which had been going years but finally decided to call it a day. They always had a lot of customers but I think the owners just wanted to retire and sell-up to property developers. I think they started the sale at 20% off. The entire stock of green gripfill sold out in a day.
Good test. Also, try the test without wood or fiberboard. Use plastic or metal so the glue will break before the glued material.
Great test. I'm a Stixall fan. Its fantastic stuff in the mid price range. £6.50 ish
Original grip fill. Used it on my bathroom. Sticks marine ply no trouble.
I was glued to this one.
Actually I would like to have seen a test on the Gorilla glue, I find that rather good. 👍
Great point! We will do some more tests with different products and come up with a better test
@@SkillBuilder Soudal Fix All is another popular one.
@@SkillBuilder good stuff, stick with it 😂😂🤣🤣
Stick around, he may do it next go around. Don’t come unglued if he doesn’t get to it. He may be stuck doing other things.
@@paedahe4975 anybody do any better?
I love these types of videos. As someone who sells these products day in day out to builders it's very interesting to see how they perform. My go to for an all round recommendation is the Everbuild Multi Stick
Are there any that would be reliable for replacing a few coping stones on a small garden wall?
Gripfill original is the only man
Clear CT1 is sticky if its outside for a while. I've used it on light fittings to seal out water.
Should have tested on brick and tile also!
Just pity to not see all result on Excel or something like that.
Thanks for this information.
Went to a job in Glasgow where the kitchen cabinets had been gripfill originalled to the wall with 2 nails holding them up while it dried . When the woman filled the big one with soup tinns and whatnot it came down along with the plaster skim coat .
Very dangerous .
X8 was my go to adhesive as a tradesman, but now I use Puraflex 40 simply because of price.
Great test Roger real eye opener
Interesting test Roger. Soudall stuff is brilliant, Fix all turbo is my go to now
For DIY the best for me is the one you can use then put the cap on and it won't go off in the tube.
Since using the green Gripfix for render beads I wouldn't go back to masonery nails/screws/staples. The only part of the job I don't like is cleaning the stuff off anything I use to spread it over the mesh.
Excellent presentation. and suprizing results.
Nice video, great little test! I can’t believe the superglue held the first round of weight!
Yes it surprised me. It is plenty good enough for mitres that's for sure
@@SkillBuilder that was always my biggest worry. When you go to mitre architraves up and them lift them into position, just the twisting of timber would brake the bond. But not if it holds 22kg!
Which would you use to stick a aluminium channel to a shower tray? The tray is a plastic skinned stone resin.
Great video! I shall be changing to a cheaper brand from now on for what I need.
How about the best brick to brick, or brick to cement, or cement to cement adhesive, please?
bought an old leaky caravan to live in whilst house was being built . . 1 tube of stixall ,tottally waterproof when it was given away over 3 years later..
I'll STICK to Pink Grip 👍😊
Can't believe solvent free grip fill did so well
Bugger! This came just at the wrong time for me, last week I bought 20 of the yellow gripfills and have been doing my skirtings+architraves with them. I'll stick with it because I don't plan on putting 20kgs on them but would've probably gone with one of the others had I known!
So let me get this right, you are going to stick with it !
You don't need the extra adhesive power for skirtings .tbh I've been using instant nails one of the cheapest for years for skirtings never had any problems and any excess cleans up really well the polymers are a pain in the ass where excess is concerned
@@davewright9312AndrewStones reply went right over your heed mate !
I use pink grip but its white. Never had problems
For skirting boards I like the gripfill extra black tube
superb stuff Roger and really useful. thanks for sharing your knowledge, great viewing.
I used to work for a london shopfitting firm who wouldnt pay for these tubes we had to fit the skirting with PVA to the plaster , you know what it didnt half hold it on, we had to change a few thing around and rip of some skirting after a few weeks, what a nightmare to get off, and a load cheaper
This is a good one but pretty much non of them are instant but what a tradesman wants to know is how long will it take to stick enough to continue a project. I suggest a 1hr 2hr 3hr and 4hr test or something like that?
the cheap green gripfill works well outside too
Pink grip is good stuff and good price but the pink can complicate jobs if it oozes out a little
So what was the end result? what was the cheapest product to pass the test?
I’ve always stuck with Stixall white, HASNT failed me
I'll stick with green grip fill, cheap and works.
Used to use that regular Gripfill, but didn't like the way it skinned over, now prefer Pinkgrip.
I agree with that
Eb25. My fav by far
I was impressed with Gripfill original when used it gluing wood to mortar.
Good informative video, with the minefield of products out thereWhich silicon do you recommend for sealing showers? I once remember you advising a 79%+ silicon, but the tube information, doesn't specify how much silicon is present, in the tube content make up.
Excellent---but I'm here, hoping to see that group of adhesives that are also Gap 'FILLER'S ''.
Do they do any black glues like these looking for some glue to stick plastics together that will be up against the wind possibly 150 mph winds
Pink Grip may be good BUT the nozzle is not screw-on so you can't cling film the cartridge to use another day. Is that why it is labelled not for DIY use?
I personally think everbuilds instant nails isn’t very good at all for sticking purposes as I found out for myself while doing a decorating job - it’s more of a sealant than an adhesive in my opinion because it’s water based and solvent free. Personally I prefer to use Gripfill and especially the pink version as they are fairly cheap and well priced for what you get. Stuck architraves, skirting and so many other materials down with the stuff and it works a treat for me! Seems like the gripfill extra is a massive scam! Fair test that roger!
I would certainly agree with what you say about instant nails, it has never lived up to the claims made for it in adverts. The only thing going for it is that you can find it everywhere, and there's been a few times when I have had to resort to it, knowing just how rubbish it is, because I could not get hold of anything else.
Also beware of Pinkgrip - it has a tendency to sink and shrink which can result in less of a bond than what you might have thought you got.
I keep it handy because it's the only one available in a resealable toothpaste style tube - wish the others like pink grip we're too.