The us smg and mg have rediculous recoil. Id also like to mention accuracy. Ive had so many moments where im using the m1919a6 and i blow an entire belt locked onto a target, just for the piece of garbage to disperse and fly off to wherever the hell it feels. Makes me so salty. What teir 5 gun has bad firerate AND shit accuracy? Unnaceptable
Yep the same applies to US MGs as well as the rifles & SMGs. At BR3 the US MG has only 20 rounds and is uncontrollable. Compare this to the 50 round MG34 also at BR3. Even the Soviet Madsen is better than the US Browning. I even found the MG34 in semi-auto mode is like a flippin sniper rifle at long range (it really shouldn't be anything like that accurate).
Yeah I've heard about that on the forums. But I'm not sure I see it really doing that when testing. It still seems to have normal SMG dispersion. It's possible they fixed it.
Depends on weapon weight thus inertia, bolt travel time, and ammo energy, for instance a FMJ .45 ACP at 15g traveling 255 m/s will generate 483j of recoil, in a 3.7kg M3 with a travel time of .13s is going to be a lot easier to keep on target than that same ammo fired out of a 4.5kg Tompson M1A1 with a travel time of .08s, even with the extra weight. Essentially E/M/T=Felt Recoil. Compare this to the MP40 with a FMJ 9x19mm at 7.45g traveling 360m/s will generate 481j in a 3.97kg package over .11s. As such the M3 should have less felt recoil than the MP40 which should have less than the M1A1.
You might disagree with me, but I think game has an issue of soviet need to be better than anyone. (I play german a lot) The PPS-42 and PPSH box I see these dam things snipe people from very far away. Ridiculous range, it was as if it had almost no bullet drop. (I played the Rzhev map during that time). It was difficult to win against russian at br 3 in smg duel even you got a drop on him, because the PPS family, PPSH box has ridiculous rate of fire (If compensate with perk then it laser beam). In Stalingrad, someone can just camped on their ass with PPS family and PPSH box and wipe the whole squad because it had absurd rate of fire and german find it hard to deal with it. You might say what about MG-34. Yes it's a best chance of German to beat soviet nonsense, but it movement penalty mean if you get into wrong position, PPSH and PPS will wipe your squad, no contest. You can't spray MG-34 (MG-42 as well) because it has higher horizontal recoil, you have to burst it except you mount or fire at close range, not that you gonna win against PPS family and PPSH box if they fire at you as well but its the best chance you got. In BR-5 the russian got prototype AK, its better than STG in almost everyway, although I prefer STG sight. About FG-42 you can say that its weird that everyone got that despite how rare its is. I don't mind if German got something instead FG-42. In the match of US-German. Yes MP-40 is good but I say its equivalent is Lanchester, although I don't prefer Lanchester sight, but it has better rate of fire. I can see your point why playing US feel bad, because the dispersion is bad and the sight is bad, you can say it feel clunky to use at time. US low Br had to only rely on Lanchster which can be boring. At least the German can rely on ZK-383 and MP 40. I will dare say I don't want to use the same loadout when I fight Russian against US because it feel unfair, but I still say fighting soviet is a headache. Their smg is too good I can say that there is no bad Smg in Russian tech tree even PPD-34 is good, very good although low magazine capacity (25 round). In gold order shop, I agree that a lot of US gun is weird, If I say the gun that I use and think is a good gun is W.A.R. ,BSA Thompson, M1903 springfield PEDERSON DEVICE (despite its a weird gun, it's feel good to use it). I think you might disagree but my point remain.
A lot of good points I agree with here but..... Are you sure they haven't already fixed/nerfed the long-range accuracy of the PPSh ? I've heard quite a few people mention that, but in testing it seems to have a very similar dispersion spread to pretty much any other SMG in any faction. I hear what you're saying about the German MG34 - I use it in the new 'semi-auto mode' (which IRL wasn't any type of selector 'switch', it just involved pulling the trigger half-way instead of fully), and it's unbelievably accurate at very long range, but obviously the vertical recoil makes it useless in full-auto mode at range. If a Soviet PPS/PPSh could fire accurately at long range in full auto mode then that would be a bit ridiculous, but I don't see that in testing. Sure, they are very controllable for short-to-medium range, but at long range their dispersion/recoil prevents them from landing enough hits, and obviously the power drop-off is much more significant than a rifle (semi-auto) or MG. Regarding the BR2 Lanchester - the problem is that it's the ONLY decent SMG but its at such a low BR it cant really hope to compete with higher-BR SMGs in other factions.
Regarding the Soviet AS-44 vs FG-42 & Stg.... I actually haven't bothered researching the AS-44 because the Federov is so powerful and I don't feel the need for anything else. For my Assaulters in all factions I unlock the 2nd weapon slot - normally to enable them to take an SMG plus the basic bolt-action (which have the useful recoil handling I mentioned in my previous vids of this topic), but now that I've unlocked the Federov, I'm experimenting with the Federov + PPD 34/38 or Shpitalny combo, and all I lose is long range capability but gain the higher ROF at medium range (basically it's like having an SMG + Semi-auto combo). Also bear in mind this is a comparison of an Assaulter weapon vs a Rifleman weapon. You can give the FG-42 to any Rifleman, AT, Engineer, Radioman etc. The Federov and AS-44 compete directly with the Stg, which is definitely a disadvantage for the Germans, but I don't think it's such a huge issue at BR5 - I just notice that once in a while the Russian BR5 weapons will beat a German player with an Stg, but it's not EVERY time (like with USA SMGs vs everyone else).
@@WinstonSmith.74 the dispersion will take the effect when you hold a trigger for a long time and no one should do that; however if you burst it repeatedly like 7 bullet burst, you can snipe people with it. I have tried in Rzhev, but I have to prone. I want to clarify one thing PPSh-41 in Br 5 had dispersion, so it isn't good at long range but the absurd one is PPSh-41 box. The box version is absurd. You can do the same with PPS short burst repeatedly and prone, I can just yeet people at long range. (I have 40% recoil reduction so it help). From the stat it had dispersion of 0.2 equal to FG42. Absurd isn't it. I will say to this day, I still get snipe by PPS and PPSH-41 box more so than I get sniped from sniper nagant. In the forum, if I see one issue people usual talk about PPSh-41 box, its had no bullet drop, meaning that you can yeet people at range. In fight between like PPSH-41 box and MP40, PPSH-41 box will win 8/10 time even at long range. MG-34, in semi auto, its quite an accurate and you don't have to worry much of recoil. I could say that its only thing that and kind of counter PPSH-41 box (Not the good one). One of the problem I see beside the smg in BR-3 US had only BAR, 3 BAR and that's that. Its like german BR5 that you had no choice but to use STG because all german tech tree BR-5 SMG beside Kiraly are just STG (I hardly see anyone use Kiraly anyway) I would like to hear your opinion more.
and finally... regarding Gold Order weapons.... The WAR only has a 20 round mag, and is very similar to the normal Browning (it even has the same firing sfx). I got the WAR when it first came out just because I wasn't anywhere near unlocking the Browning MGs, so I expected it to be useful. Unfortunately I found it to be disappointing mainly due to the low mag size - I'd be trying to reload and get caught out by the next enemy in the squad. The BSA Thompson only has a 20 round mag as well - compared to a normal M1A1 Thompson with 30. It does have a higher ROF which can be useful, but then you just burn through the mag even quicker. I used to have the BSA Tommy on my earliest modmaps (before the popular 'France Urban' plugplug lol). The Springfield Pederson Device looks like fun, but I'd assume its really weak so not really that useful ? Now compare to the German & Soviet Gold Order weapons......
@@WinstonSmith.74 In high BR 5, I could say that its like a revenge time for german after all BR-3 could constantly get ripped. Yes I agree that AS-44 vs Stg isn't much of issue but it look at the stat, AS-44 just ripped off stat of STG. Federov is so powerful more so than its real life counterpart, LOL, but at least I can say that I can fight soviet back in BR-5 better but in BR-3 which is different story. At least in the STG VS AS-44 and Federov, if you get a drop on him first, there is higher chance that you will win a gun fight.
All weapons have dispersion, and all weapons have recoil. Some weapons have more recoil and dispersion than others. This will vary based on the gun itself and its natural characteristics, alongside which BR/Tier it is in. In fact, the T20 and Hyde 1944 (new addition in the latest major update) are excellent weapons for USA, and now they "match" Soviets/Germans/Japanese, even beating them in many instances (T20 > AVT (Soviet) & FG 42 II (German), for example, in the view of basically every single veteran player). The new other additions in the recent update are also excellent weapons (T24, Thompson 7.63, etc). In fact, you ignore Japan, and Japan probably has the best infantry weapons right now across the board - most clan wars now solely use this faction due to it, hence it's the "meta". Now, for clarity, I don't disagree with you that low tier USSR is perhaps the best low tier nation, and USA is the worst (and if you compare weapon vs weapon exactly, in USA vs Soviet, then this probably proves the point, but in actual gameplay situations the difference in weaponry literally doesn't matter at all because it's all about how good each team is), and in fact if the video was titled "USA sucks at low tier" or "anti-USA bias at low tier" I might not disagree with you. But, at high tier the Soviets are arguably the worst faction right now in terms of weaponry alone. So, it varies. I reiterate the point that comparing individual weapons at the same (but, it seems sometimes different BRs, what you did om the video) BRs is almost entirely fruitless, and, not that you said this in the video but it might be interpreted by other viewers watching this, not the reason USA loses games. It comes down to the playerbase 100% of the time of each nation, and the real issue with Enlisted's "bias" is rooted in the matchmaking selected and by player nation preferences, not weapon balance. It's also worth mentioning that weapons NEED to be different. The game would be super boring if all weapons at the exact same point on the tech tree were the same in terms of statistics for every faction, and also wouldn't be historically accurate. In fact, USA often has higher-damaging low tier assault weapons (Thompsons for example), at the cost of this higher dispersion/recoil. Germans/Soviets may have lower recoil and maybe faster fire rate sometimes but lower damage per bullet (and usually about the same shot dispersion, if you actually look at the statistics). Now that is not to say the USA weapons are better, but just that weapons are different, and players prefer using each one for different reasons. So, saying "CONCLUSIVE PROOF of Darkflow's clear anti-USA bias" is disingenuine and doesn't reflect the statistics, unfortunately. Many of your comparisons in this video are also quite odd, as well as how you choose to demonstrate them. In addition, Americans have the best CAS in the entire game by a country mile too (P-47 with 500lb bomb and 8 HVARs, AND you can get 2x of them) and also the best anti-infantry tanks (Calliope, Rocket Pershing), etc. Does Gaijin really hate America judging by all of this? When taking a full view of the whole nation, saying it's "conclusive proof" that all of America and this faction is hated is quite simply incorrect.
....and please stop blatantly shilling for Darkflow. The bias is so flippin obvious it's just comical to see you try to defend them over this and say it's 'disingenuine' .
@@WinstonSmith.74 What are you on about? The weakest faction in BR 5 is Germany. The allies have been getting a lot of good stuff(T20 rifle, Super Pershing, strongest CAS in game with HVAR x 8 and bombs, Thompson 50, now even the RPzB 43). Don't talk shiet about bias when you didn't even research the whole tech tree. And in low BR you only lack a good MG, and that's it. Lanchester does the job, and the Lee-Enfield No.4 is op. BR 3 is strong for the allies, having the M1 Garand, BAR and Thompson. You clearly have licked too much salt sir, and I can only recommend some git gut to fix that. Also you might want to try the guns with the vertical recoil reduction perk to reduce that nasty auuughh recoil.
well I do play Germans quite a bit (in BR5), and yes 'veteran' USA players do quite well even despite the handicap of their SMGs, but I just know how much a 'normal' player would struggle with USA weapons compared to what a relief it feels like when you swap over to Germans and start runnin around with an MP40, Berretta, or Stg.
US SMGs fire the .45 ACP, a huge and heavy round. Of course the recoil and controllability are far worse than faster, lighter rounds. How is this 'bias' ?
Short lesson on internal ballistics, ie the part of ballistics that happens within the weapon. As Sir Isaac Newton discovered "every action has an equal and opposite reaction", that means for all the energy going into the bullet on the terminal ballistics side of the equation an equal and opposite amount of energy is being put into the weapon firing it, ie recoil. Additionally during WW2 the standard .45 ACP round was subsonic, whereas the standard 9x19 Parabellum was supersonic, and given that the equation regarding Energy exponentially favors Velocity over Mass, as such a lighter bullet can make up for terminal ballistics with velocity far more readily than a heavier bullet can with mass, which WW2 era 9mm very much did making the two fairly comparable terminally, hence the flood of "wonder 9 pistols" that followed WW2. Now if the developers want to give .45 ACP more damage to compensate for their usually smaller magazines, then more power to them, but strictly speaking that is not entirely accurate.
The us smg and mg have rediculous recoil. Id also like to mention accuracy. Ive had so many moments where im using the m1919a6 and i blow an entire belt locked onto a target, just for the piece of garbage to disperse and fly off to wherever the hell it feels. Makes me so salty. What teir 5 gun has bad firerate AND shit accuracy? Unnaceptable
Yep the same applies to US MGs as well as the rifles & SMGs. At BR3 the US MG has only 20 rounds and is uncontrollable. Compare this to the 50 round MG34 also at BR3. Even the Soviet Madsen is better than the US Browning. I even found the MG34 in semi-auto mode is like a flippin sniper rifle at long range (it really shouldn't be anything like that accurate).
another thing about the box mag ppsh is it has a crazy low shot dispersion, almost as good as some bolt actions.
Yeah I've heard about that on the forums. But I'm not sure I see it really doing that when testing. It still seems to have normal SMG dispersion. It's possible they fixed it.
Depends on weapon weight thus inertia, bolt travel time, and ammo energy, for instance a FMJ .45 ACP at 15g traveling 255 m/s will generate 483j of recoil, in a 3.7kg M3 with a travel time of .13s is going to be a lot easier to keep on target than that same ammo fired out of a 4.5kg Tompson M1A1 with a travel time of .08s, even with the extra weight. Essentially E/M/T=Felt Recoil. Compare this to the MP40 with a FMJ 9x19mm at 7.45g traveling 360m/s will generate 481j in a 3.97kg package over .11s. As such the M3 should have less felt recoil than the MP40 which should have less than the M1A1.
You might disagree with me, but I think game has an issue of soviet need to be better than anyone. (I play german a lot) The PPS-42 and PPSH box I see these dam things snipe people from very far away. Ridiculous range, it was as if it had almost no bullet drop. (I played the Rzhev map during that time). It was difficult to win against russian at br 3 in smg duel even you got a drop on him, because the PPS family, PPSH box has ridiculous rate of fire (If compensate with perk then it laser beam). In Stalingrad, someone can just camped on their ass with PPS family and PPSH box and wipe the whole squad because it had absurd rate of fire and german find it hard to deal with it. You might say what about MG-34. Yes it's a best chance of German to beat soviet nonsense, but it movement penalty mean if you get into wrong position, PPSH and PPS will wipe your squad, no contest. You can't spray MG-34 (MG-42 as well) because it has higher horizontal recoil, you have to burst it except you mount or fire at close range, not that you gonna win against PPS family and PPSH box if they fire at you as well but its the best chance you got.
In BR-5 the russian got prototype AK, its better than STG in almost everyway, although I prefer STG sight.
About FG-42 you can say that its weird that everyone got that despite how rare its is. I don't mind if German got something instead FG-42.
In the match of US-German. Yes MP-40 is good but I say its equivalent is Lanchester, although I don't prefer Lanchester sight, but it has better rate of fire. I can see your point why playing US feel bad, because the dispersion is bad and the sight is bad, you can say it feel clunky to use at time. US low Br had to only rely on Lanchster which can be boring. At least the German can rely on ZK-383 and MP 40.
I will dare say I don't want to use the same loadout when I fight Russian against US because it feel unfair, but I still say fighting soviet is a headache. Their smg is too good I can say that there is no bad Smg in Russian tech tree even PPD-34 is good, very good although low magazine capacity (25 round).
In gold order shop, I agree that a lot of US gun is weird, If I say the gun that I use and think is a good gun is W.A.R. ,BSA Thompson, M1903 springfield PEDERSON DEVICE (despite its a weird gun, it's feel good to use it).
I think you might disagree but my point remain.
A lot of good points I agree with here but.....
Are you sure they haven't already fixed/nerfed the long-range accuracy of the PPSh ? I've heard quite a few people mention that, but in testing it seems to have a very similar dispersion spread to pretty much any other SMG in any faction.
I hear what you're saying about the German MG34 - I use it in the new 'semi-auto mode' (which IRL wasn't any type of selector 'switch', it just involved pulling the trigger half-way instead of fully), and it's unbelievably accurate at very long range, but obviously the vertical recoil makes it useless in full-auto mode at range. If a Soviet PPS/PPSh could fire accurately at long range in full auto mode then that would be a bit ridiculous, but I don't see that in testing. Sure, they are very controllable for short-to-medium range, but at long range their dispersion/recoil prevents them from landing enough hits, and obviously the power drop-off is much more significant than a rifle (semi-auto) or MG.
Regarding the BR2 Lanchester - the problem is that it's the ONLY decent SMG but its at such a low BR it cant really hope to compete with higher-BR SMGs in other factions.
Regarding the Soviet AS-44 vs FG-42 & Stg....
I actually haven't bothered researching the AS-44 because the Federov is so powerful and I don't feel the need for anything else. For my Assaulters in all factions I unlock the 2nd weapon slot - normally to enable them to take an SMG plus the basic bolt-action (which have the useful recoil handling I mentioned in my previous vids of this topic), but now that I've unlocked the Federov, I'm experimenting with the Federov + PPD 34/38 or Shpitalny combo, and all I lose is long range capability but gain the higher ROF at medium range (basically it's like having an SMG + Semi-auto combo).
Also bear in mind this is a comparison of an Assaulter weapon vs a Rifleman weapon. You can give the FG-42 to any Rifleman, AT, Engineer, Radioman etc.
The Federov and AS-44 compete directly with the Stg, which is definitely a disadvantage for the Germans, but I don't think it's such a huge issue at BR5 - I just notice that once in a while the Russian BR5 weapons will beat a German player with an Stg, but it's not EVERY time (like with USA SMGs vs everyone else).
@@WinstonSmith.74 the dispersion will take the effect when you hold a trigger for a long time and no one should do that; however if you burst it repeatedly like 7 bullet burst, you can snipe people with it. I have tried in Rzhev, but I have to prone.
I want to clarify one thing PPSh-41 in Br 5 had dispersion, so it isn't good at long range but the absurd one is PPSh-41 box. The box version is absurd. You can do the same with PPS short burst repeatedly and prone, I can just yeet people at long range. (I have 40% recoil reduction so it help). From the stat it had dispersion of 0.2 equal to FG42. Absurd isn't it.
I will say to this day, I still get snipe by PPS and PPSH-41 box more so than I get sniped from sniper nagant.
In the forum, if I see one issue people usual talk about PPSh-41 box, its had no bullet drop, meaning that you can yeet people at range. In fight between like PPSH-41 box and MP40, PPSH-41 box will win 8/10 time even at long range.
MG-34, in semi auto, its quite an accurate and you don't have to worry much of recoil. I could say that its only thing that and kind of counter PPSH-41 box (Not the good one).
One of the problem I see beside the smg in BR-3 US had only BAR, 3 BAR and that's that. Its like german BR5 that you had no choice but to use STG because all german tech tree BR-5 SMG beside Kiraly are just STG (I hardly see anyone use Kiraly anyway)
I would like to hear your opinion more.
and finally... regarding Gold Order weapons....
The WAR only has a 20 round mag, and is very similar to the normal Browning (it even has the same firing sfx). I got the WAR when it first came out just because I wasn't anywhere near unlocking the Browning MGs, so I expected it to be useful. Unfortunately I found it to be disappointing mainly due to the low mag size - I'd be trying to reload and get caught out by the next enemy in the squad.
The BSA Thompson only has a 20 round mag as well - compared to a normal M1A1 Thompson with 30. It does have a higher ROF which can be useful, but then you just burn through the mag even quicker. I used to have the BSA Tommy on my earliest modmaps (before the popular 'France Urban' plugplug lol).
The Springfield Pederson Device looks like fun, but I'd assume its really weak so not really that useful ?
Now compare to the German & Soviet Gold Order weapons......
@@WinstonSmith.74 In high BR 5, I could say that its like a revenge time for german after all BR-3 could constantly get ripped. Yes I agree that AS-44 vs Stg isn't much of issue but it look at the stat, AS-44 just ripped off stat of STG. Federov is so powerful more so than its real life counterpart, LOL, but at least I can say that I can fight soviet back in BR-5 better but in BR-3 which is different story.
At least in the STG VS AS-44 and Federov, if you get a drop on him first, there is higher chance that you will win a gun fight.
All weapons have dispersion, and all weapons have recoil. Some weapons have more recoil and dispersion than others. This will vary based on the gun itself and its natural characteristics, alongside which BR/Tier it is in. In fact, the T20 and Hyde 1944 (new addition in the latest major update) are excellent weapons for USA, and now they "match" Soviets/Germans/Japanese, even beating them in many instances (T20 > AVT (Soviet) & FG 42 II (German), for example, in the view of basically every single veteran player). The new other additions in the recent update are also excellent weapons (T24, Thompson 7.63, etc). In fact, you ignore Japan, and Japan probably has the best infantry weapons right now across the board - most clan wars now solely use this faction due to it, hence it's the "meta".
Now, for clarity, I don't disagree with you that low tier USSR is perhaps the best low tier nation, and USA is the worst (and if you compare weapon vs weapon exactly, in USA vs Soviet, then this probably proves the point, but in actual gameplay situations the difference in weaponry literally doesn't matter at all because it's all about how good each team is), and in fact if the video was titled "USA sucks at low tier" or "anti-USA bias at low tier" I might not disagree with you. But, at high tier the Soviets are arguably the worst faction right now in terms of weaponry alone. So, it varies.
I reiterate the point that comparing individual weapons at the same (but, it seems sometimes different BRs, what you did om the video) BRs is almost entirely fruitless, and, not that you said this in the video but it might be interpreted by other viewers watching this, not the reason USA loses games. It comes down to the playerbase 100% of the time of each nation, and the real issue with Enlisted's "bias" is rooted in the matchmaking selected and by player nation preferences, not weapon balance.
It's also worth mentioning that weapons NEED to be different. The game would be super boring if all weapons at the exact same point on the tech tree were the same in terms of statistics for every faction, and also wouldn't be historically accurate. In fact, USA often has higher-damaging low tier assault weapons (Thompsons for example), at the cost of this higher dispersion/recoil. Germans/Soviets may have lower recoil and maybe faster fire rate sometimes but lower damage per bullet (and usually about the same shot dispersion, if you actually look at the statistics). Now that is not to say the USA weapons are better, but just that weapons are different, and players prefer using each one for different reasons.
So, saying "CONCLUSIVE PROOF of Darkflow's clear anti-USA bias" is disingenuine and doesn't reflect the statistics, unfortunately. Many of your comparisons in this video are also quite odd, as well as how you choose to demonstrate them. In addition, Americans have the best CAS in the entire game by a country mile too (P-47 with 500lb bomb and 8 HVARs, AND you can get 2x of them) and also the best anti-infantry tanks (Calliope, Rocket Pershing), etc.
Does Gaijin really hate America judging by all of this? When taking a full view of the whole nation, saying it's "conclusive proof" that all of America and this faction is hated is quite simply incorrect.
Nerf USA. T20 too op. Also ban HVARs kek
Well man that's just your opinion.
....and please stop blatantly shilling for Darkflow. The bias is so flippin obvious it's just comical to see you try to defend them over this and say it's 'disingenuine' .
@MajorMcDonalds Say that to PPSH-41 box and KV1
@@WinstonSmith.74 What are you on about? The weakest faction in BR 5 is Germany. The allies have been getting a lot of good stuff(T20 rifle, Super Pershing, strongest CAS in game with HVAR x 8 and bombs, Thompson 50, now even the RPzB 43). Don't talk shiet about bias when you didn't even research the whole tech tree. And in low BR you only lack a good MG, and that's it. Lanchester does the job, and the Lee-Enfield No.4 is op. BR 3 is strong for the allies, having the M1 Garand, BAR and Thompson.
You clearly have licked too much salt sir, and I can only recommend some git gut to fix that. Also you might want to try the guns with the vertical recoil reduction perk to reduce that nasty auuughh recoil.
try to be on the receiving end to see how bad the us smg are ...
well I do play Germans quite a bit (in BR5), and yes 'veteran' USA players do quite well even despite the handicap of their SMGs, but I just know how much a 'normal' player would struggle with USA weapons compared to what a relief it feels like when you swap over to Germans and start runnin around with an MP40, Berretta, or Stg.
US SMGs fire the .45 ACP, a huge and heavy round. Of course the recoil and controllability are far worse than faster, lighter rounds.
How is this 'bias' ?
Short lesson on internal ballistics, ie the part of ballistics that happens within the weapon. As Sir Isaac Newton discovered "every action has an equal and opposite reaction", that means for all the energy going into the bullet on the terminal ballistics side of the equation an equal and opposite amount of energy is being put into the weapon firing it, ie recoil. Additionally during WW2 the standard .45 ACP round was subsonic, whereas the standard 9x19 Parabellum was supersonic, and given that the equation regarding Energy exponentially favors Velocity over Mass, as such a lighter bullet can make up for terminal ballistics with velocity far more readily than a heavier bullet can with mass, which WW2 era 9mm very much did making the two fairly comparable terminally, hence the flood of "wonder 9 pistols" that followed WW2. Now if the developers want to give .45 ACP more damage to compensate for their usually smaller magazines, then more power to them, but strictly speaking that is not entirely accurate.