Chernobyl - How The World Became A Risk Society
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- Start your 30 DAY FREE TRIAL now at mubi.com/likes...
With the support of Creative Europe - MEDIA Programme of the European Union.
Support this channel: / likestoriesofold
Leave a One-Time Donation: www.paypal.me/...
Follow me on Facebook: / likestoriesofold
Or Twitter: / tom_lsoo
Video essay using Ulrich Beck’s Risk Society thesis to explore how HBO’s Chernobyl tells a story about the technological risks that are increasingly permeating our modern society.
Sources:
Ulrich Beck - World At Risk: amzn.to/2XhI8Hw
Adriana Petryna - Life Exposed: Biological Citizens After Chernobyl: amzn.to/2JgCJX4
Like Stories of Old - Complete Reading List: kit.com/likest...
Say hi: likestoriesofold@gmail.com
Business inquiries: lsoo@standard.tv
Music:
David Harwell - Rising and Falling, What the Tide Could Bring
A.Taylor - Regain, Once Lost
Alaskan Tapes - Because Finally it’s Everything
Music licensed from Musicbed, start your 30 day free trial at: share.mscbd.fm/...
If you're a long-time follower of the channel you've probably heard me talk about the work of Ulrich Beck before, but I had never discussed his main thesis - the consequences of modern risks caused by technological progress - so here it is! The Risk Society is a grand social theory, meaning that it encompasses multiple areas of life. If you're interested in more, I'd recommend watching my older videos on:
- The Dark Knight, which uses Beck's more recent work that focuses on the risks caused by terrorism, which differentiate themselves from technological risks by not being blows of fate, but driven by malicious intent: ruclips.net/video/W4evCOctDrc/видео.html
- It's a Wonderful Life, which uses Beck's individualization thesis to explore the friction between the individual and the community in modern society: ruclips.net/video/TZ7n4bOLNwc/видео.html
- The Good Place, which also draws on Beck's individualization thesis, but uses it to explore the question of morality and ethical consumption in modern society: ruclips.net/video/qh6K0z7-700/видео.html
Like Stories of Old Your videos have brought me so much insight into films and introduced me to ones I otherwise wouldn't have given a chance.
I.. I just wanted to thank you for your work, these videos have changed me for the better.
Would you please consider doing an entry on the movie Annihilation?
Just sent you a tip! Love your work. I know it’s been covered a lot, but I’d be interested in seeing your take on True Detective season 1, specifically the character Rust Cohle
I would appreciate your take on King Vidor's "The Crowd" and Bela Tarr's "Werckmeister Harmonies".
@Kalp Parashar wow its
_"...it was dark and there was a horrible hissing noise. There was no ceiling, only sky; a sky full of stars."_ A stream of ionising radiation was shooting starwards, like a laser beam. _"I remember thinking how beautiful it was."_ - Sasha Yuvchenko
❤
Ah the most underrated channel on YT uploads again. Today is a good day.
Hear hear!
His editing/pacing, his intellect, his surprising subtlety of his genuine emotional resonance in a monotone delivery
-goodness gracious this channel is so good for us all to witness and enjoy.
Exurb1a is also wonderful and so is lemmino
@@StefanVidenov I think what SNOW SOS is getting at is that for something of this quality you'd expect far more subscribers and views per video.
Only 200k subscribers to LSOO so far!?! 🤯 I too would expect at least 2M+ subs for such quality content! 🤩❤️👍👏
bwvids We have to share his videos, quality speaks for itself but share are as important if not more than likes.
And this is something allotted to us all.
I envy you, the way your mind works.. how you see films & how deeply they touch and influence you.
I have been fundamentally impacted by every video you make and I just wanted to thank you for creating the content you do.
In my eyes you are the best RUclips channel.
Millennial_Weeb You are right, LSOO is a great thinker and his attention to detail is stunning. Salute.
It IS the best RUclips channel & we are lucky to have found this.
He just reads. You should too
He must have done some course of film criticism. You can start-off at Crash Course (RUclips channel).
praise is great but you sound like an absolute moron and i wouldn't be honored to have you obessess over me.pathetic. is the concept of critical thinking so difficult to attempt?
This is like a shower to my soul. I feel more pure after your interpretations. Thank you!
"Why worry about something that isn't going to happen?".
isn't this what we're worried about a lot of the time?
The Corona response in a nutshell
Hence why we have people to anticipate worst-case scenarios and plan for them.
What me worry ?
As I was watching it, I was smoking a cigarette and really got struck with the notion of something that can't be seen or easily sensed being so destructive. I understand that the lies we tell ourselves can also be as disastrous as Chernobyl - not only in a community level we're in danger, but also in an individual one.
I worry about the risks of smoking, but I still do it. I can't actually see anything happen, anything reacting within me and giving birth to new conditions. It feels good to have a company for my thoughts, which I found in the cigarretes. Even though us people worry about many different things, we still consciously act in antagonistic ways to what we think to be correct. Why we do that?
One can tell it is because of lies. But it is also because of the comfort we find in those lies. We adapt our lifestyles around those lies to a point where they become perceived as truths, so we act on them. And these lies can hide a nasty effect that will only be noticed once the structure collapses, the roof breaks and the unknown comes out of that explosion. Just as my lie that some sort of benefit comes out of my smoking habit. Just as the many lies we tell ourselves to justify not following our true, deep morals.
"When we're told enough lies, then we no longer recognize the truth at all". That hit me so damn hard. Only one knows how much he lies to himself.
Nicotine is addicting.
Make walking the company for your thoughts, my friend.
Iago Gouvea that’s exactly what I was thinking every time they showed a character smoking. It wasn’t just a byproduct of the time but a narrative tool to show the lies they tell themselves
Beautiful description
A friend of mine talked to me about smoking, he said he's never touched a cigarette once and I remember the exact sentence with which he said why.
"I've seen people at 90 say they've smoked their whole life and never had problems, but I've seen my father die at 40 from it and he didn't say a word, all the people who die young from it don't say a word, it's only the few survivors who live to talk"
None of his father's siblings smoked, they all lived well into their 80s.
I thought of the irony of the cigarette how they feared dying from radiation how they feared disaster but would probably die sooner either way because of cigarettes.
This video seems increasingly relevant in the 2020s, with us experiencing coronavirus that poses a threat to much of modern life, at least in the short term. Thankyou for your timeless vidoes
Chernobyl feels more relevant now than it did when it released
I'm watching this in May 2020, and every sentence he spoke, I kept thinking "That's happening now".
Timeless analysis for a timeless problem we have with unknowable risks. We're still the kids who won't believe our parents until we burn our hand on the stove. We're still the Trojans who won't believe Kassandra.
There's many differences most notably that this was manmade and coronavirus most likely not
@@joeyhussell2924 of course there's differences, but the (hopefully) accidental nature of corona combined with the widespread cover up / denial is identical to Chernobyl- just look at Al Jazeera articles earlier in the year
@@joeyhussell2924 There is also the fact that Chernobyl's response wasn't far more horrible than the damage from the accident itself.
Although the Coronavirus outbreak might seem a 'natural disatster' to some, it is due to the complexity of the modern world, its global economy and tightly meshed transport networks that it to was one of those modern risks. The global response to it shows all the hallmarks of the grappling responses to the Chernobyl disaster.
Say “No” to globalism then?
@@WhenxDarknessxFalls No, I wouldn't say so. Instead say "Let's make complex societal and economic systems extra robust and secure by installing sufficient 'redundancies'.
A pandemic is so disruptive because we were having the minimal number of ICU beds we thought we could get away with ... when it turned out that in a pandemic we couldn't, we were in the mess we are in today. It was so disruptive because our public transport systems try to transport the maximum number of people in a minimal number of vehicles, our restaurants seat a maximum number of diners in a minimal number of sq meters of area, our factories try to produce the maximum amount of output with a minimum amount of stock. "Just in time" and "just enough" for a life of "as much as possible" is fragile and vulnerable to disruption.
Chernobyl was Chernobyl because it was "cheap" and because the tried to get away with a minimum of safety. The pandemic hit so hard because we live in this mini-max world where we too often maximise the wrong things while minimising the vital things. We can do better ... and we will. We can with nuclear reactors and we also can with the global economy and society.
you mean the CCP virus that was intentionally leaked to the world by the CCP? to cover up the harvesting of organs forcefully and the Muslim concentration camps in north west china and Taiwan The Free and Independent country?
@@NaughtyNovaroo69 Nuts!
@@NaughtyNovaroo69 Covid actually attacks your organs and if you’re very unlucky it can cause organ failure. It wouldn’t be smart to harvest organs from a Covid patient. Also a respiratory virus isn’t very good as a bio weapon because it’s not precise, they mutate very easily since they’re very contagious, and it can hurt your own people and your Allies as well.
LSOO is one of my inspirational channels. You are so insightful on how you interpret what the film maker presents. You, by extension , provide us with a chance, upon reflection, to see ourselves anew with meaningful clarify. Thank you.
Reminds me of what Mark Fisher wrote about bureaucracy in Capitalist Realism, that it is about evading responsibility. The responsibility is shifted to the form instead of the people. Seems to apply perfectly to the plant managers as depicted in the show.
"Where I once would fear the cost of truth, now I only ask: 'What is the cost of lies?'" I missed the incredible impact of this line the first time I saw the Chernobyl series. Nothing has ever summed up more succinctly the importance of acknowledging difficult truths.
Social media too is a new risk we created. 20-years ago it didn't exist but now it has the potential power to change so many things .... a risk we didn't need to make for ourselves. Being connected, while fun, will continue to cause real problems in our lives.
The tone in these videos leave me speechless every time.
I want to let you know sir, that if there is ever a day in your life where you are feeling down on yourself or feeling worthless ; I want you to know that your videos have helped me make myself a better more knowledgeable man. I will strive to make myself better. I owe it to you. You are making a difference. Keep up the good work. I look forward to more of your great videos.
Thanks! That means a lot :)
Bushiedo that was such a lovely comment I hope u have a good, overall happy life mate 🙌🏻
Wow. You manage to make a video that is both sobering and hopeful at the same time. Great work.
Brilliant, as usual. When your new uploads appear, I am always excited. I teared up watching this, broke my heart open. You always weave in a thread of hope which makes the message bearable. Thank you for your work, am proud to sponsor you ♥️
Totally agree with you. If there is no hope then we really have nothing to talk about and would all give in to despair. Speaking personally some days can be a struggle and I do appreciate anyone who can inspire even just a little hope
I havent watched the series yet, but I'll be sure to come back as soon as I do. When I read Alexievich's interviews on Chernobyl, I was wrecked, and I suspect this series will be just as hard to swallow.
Keep up the good work.
It's really worth it! Thanks!
"Manufactured uncertainties" --> the cost of progress we rarely consider. We assume any new invention will help us solve something, without thinking of the new problems it will create.
Chernobyl is essentially a horror drama: For the horrifying thought of having to deal with a monster we cannot even perceive without our own senses; for revealing how systems and institutions have become living organisms ready to sacrifice their own people by using lies to cover up their own blunders to uphold their sense of power. Ulrich Beck dedicated most of his time exploring how we will inevitably grow deeper and deeper into these problems, and by making us aware of them, hoped to help prevent more of them. And yet, here we are today still dealing with things we ourselves created and aren't even aware we are creating. We need more stories like this that, perhaps even if not 100% historically accurate, remind us of our vulnerability and the need for caution in our pursuit for greater and bigger things and also to remind us that the truth will always be worth fighting for!
Well put!
@@LikeStoriesofOld Trust me, after watching any of your videos one inevitably dives down another rabbit hole of philosophical content. Really eye opening! Thank you for your work!
As we Objectivists put it: existence exists. No matter how many officials scream it doesn't
A horror drama that becomes a comedy once one simply comes to understand the narcissistic modus operandi in this hubris lusting Pandemic we are planted on the bank of the pond shore of reflecting our own image back at us like our favorite selfie. You will never make aware those who wish to remain in darkness. I've been trying to wake you mushrooms up before your own funeral for decades now.
It doesn't have to be 100% accurate as long as the spirit of the event is portrayed
Great video as always. I didn’t consider this aspect of the series yet, thanks for sharing your insight. To me, the most interesting thing about HBO’s Chernobyl was the growth of the unlikely relationship between Shcherbina and Legasov and how disaster can bring completely different people together to work on a solution.
1:57 almost prophetic with what's happening now with coronavirus
i was so afraid of how you were going to do the Mubi transition at the end.
But you managed to make it so appropriately timed and emotional.
Love your channel so much, thank you for the great videos!!!! They make my day.
Your voice sounds like you’re trying to tell me a secret and I have to listen closely.
Listening back to it now and have to say you are totally right haha, I think I was dealing with a cold or sore throat or something around that time, either way; I can tell I was trying not to strain my voice too much :')
@@LikeStoriesofOld Nice job taking responsibility
@@LikeStoriesofOld You're voice always sounds like you're telling us a deep dark secret, in the dead of night, in front of a fire, while a blizzard rages outside and none of us know if we're the last ones left alive. It's great!
@@LikeStoriesofOld Get back behind the curtain and let us indulge in our fantasy..... Oh wait I think you already made a video on that.
You should really look into Berserk , Dune and The Metabarons/ The Incal. Those might give you some new video ideas. Besides that great video , nice editing timing.
Anything by Alejandro Jodorowsky!!!
Yeah dune would be grear
There is a point during every LSOO essay where I have to check if see if I need to turn on the heat because something you said gave me chills
I was not sure if you would do this but I was waiting for it...
☺️
The message of this video is so timely, now more than ever, as the whole world appears to be struggling in dealing with a global pandemic. I turn to this video for some comfort in these challenging times. Thank you, once again, for making this video. 💚
It’s so weird that he’s talking about the risk factor as an abstract Ideology and now one year after this video is released everyone is living through a side effect of this very theory
Every advancement has consistently had two problems. One is a desire to put it to use before all the hazards of it are fully and completely known. The other is that there is always someone with a desire to leverage it or use it for some form of putting themselves ahead by way of handicapping others.
The industrial revolution modernized many aspects but brought up it's own workplace and health hazards. And the more technology advances, along with the dependence on it, the more it gets seen as a means to weaponize it. Energy grid attacks. Manufactured viruses, both computer and biological.
@@gregorylagrange Any real solution to either of those problems with advancement would have us going against our very nature. It's a sort of cruel, cosmic "catch-22" of intelligent life.
@@ElixirOfEuphoria No country for old men.
This deserves a lot more views. This is beautifully articulated.
Can't wait for HBO to produce the miniseries Wuhan in about 34 years.
I thought the same too.
ReWatching this after the Wuhan incident shows the Chernobyl disaster in a new light. That countries striving to become the new power will make the same mistakes as those that came before. Lost in their focus they make catastrophic mistakes and make more with the terrible decisions trying to hide the first mistake from the rest of the world.
Tiananmen tho
Unless China buys outs a portion Time Warner.
Tencent already owns enough of Activision Blizzard that Pro Gamers have been banned from competition for talking about the Hong Kong protests.
The weak western soyboys in China's pocket won't allow it. Anyway, we will all be forced into re-education programs.
Should do one about the Spanish flu which originated in Kansas.
Mandatory viewing. And proof, for those who needs proof, that philosophy is 100% essential for us all to survive.
This was by far the best video and analysis on this series!!
I'm having goosebump right now. Because youtube recommended this video as currently, we are having an unfortunate pandemic event globally. Covid-19.
I loved the Chernobyl miniseries and was hoping you would cover it one day as soon as it wrapped up. So glad you did! Thank you.
you re vision is a gift, Like Stories of Old.. THANK U for creating more beauty to reflect on....
Your videos are no lesser than meditation. It leaves you feeling that you've gained some wisdom! Thank you!
congrats for 200k subs, and great video as always.
Almost there! Thanks :)
We cant' learn anything without first making mistakes. A 'Risk Society' concept has been around for hundreds of thousands of years as the development of human minds evolve on a constant level of movement forward. We are far from being truly civilized and with each step taken by making mistakes, we get that much closer to living the lives went truly dream of having no matter how many lives lived before us, we keep learning and keep going cause we are all still part of nature. Even when that 'nature' is of our own making so we can learn from it to do better.
Just finished the series... this is a phenomenal analysis
Going to share your channel as much as I can. This is beautiful.
The way you describe and analyse the idea of a risk society is extraordinarily accurate. It really gave me the chills. Thanks!
Extremely well done. Thank you. Purchased Dr. Beck book!
What a beautiful albeit somber TV series. Has a great message and shows a lot of respect to the original event. And of course, your review is great as per usual. Cheers from Kiev.
These videos are incredibly insightful and provide a smorgasbord of food for thought. Thank you.
Great work! I look forward to showing this to my sociology students. Thank you so much for making this available!
This theory describes SO much of what we are experiencing now with COVID-19, it's uncanny.
Great vid LSO. Watched Chernobyl a while ago. It still haunts me.
this is a beautifully made video essay. subbed
Wow, i was just rewatching your Sunshine and Mr.Nobody vids. Now i have more☺ lol.
Good analysis.
Radiation is a silent hazard. It's easy to be injured by it and experience no immediate symptoms. It's spooky because of that, precisely because the usual way we sense the world doesn't offer much protection.
Watching this video in 2020 brings goosebumps
Thank you for this. LOVE it. I love this subject matter because, as a journalist for the last 25 years, I've seen/talked to/interviewed SO MANY people ( especially in this departing decade ) who have become so distant from reality and from the resulting risks. Videos like this are VITAL to us all, not just for learning/entertaining purposes but for long term education and, possibly, life flled enrichment of solutions. Things will turn around for the better because they have to. We, literally, have no choice but to improve things. It may be dark and grim, these demons we create through social media or even through the nuclear devices. But, humans eventually adapt. We always believe the " end is near. " And yet, the end is only the beginning of people coming together to find ( and execute ) better informed decisions.
Thank you so much for this perspective. With every year I grow older, I become more familiar with the workings of our society. And the idea that the collective decisions that are being made nowadays way out scale what we can intuitively grasp seems to explain so many of the problems we have.
Outstanding analysis, touchingly illustrated. Thank you.
This is so timely in the time of COVID, thanks.
This is maybe the only piece of entertainment media I've actively tried to watch that I could not force myself to sit through. I can take bleakness, and boredom, and disturbing ideas or images. But this cocktail of hopelessness and inevitability that comes from knowing what would happen yet still having hours of mini series left, just couldn't do it. Maybe when the existential dread level is a bit lower I can come back.
This video essay, as each one you did before, is thoughtful and thought-provoking, written in beautiful English, infallibly researched and simply put - beautiful to watch, to experience!
I had never heard of you before or seen any of your content and all I can say is I'm glad I found this. Keep it up!
Prepare to binge
Lagasov’s monologue is awesome! George Orwell, couldn’t have written if better!
And to think the "Corium" deep inside the facility, is at present, even now beginning to stir into a new phase of activity with unknown consequences-it was recently reported.
I would love to hear you do an existential/meditation podcast. Your voice is so soothing.
Or a bed time story wen i feel anxious
This was a great video. I love the depth you add to these films.
This is so relatable, more than ever before. Price of lies is too great for humanity to survive.
We’ve been surviving despite lies since Adam n Eve. We’ll make it.
Your narrations and just the way you pull meaning out (or see) is amazing. It would make my day if you could comment on how long it takes you and your overall process of writing it and if you have any tips on seeing the meaning in our own lives. It would really mean alot to me.
This is also the inherent risk of dealing with large entities like governments, the military, corporations or even a churches. When a catastrophe of this magnitude hits, the organization tends to move to protect itself at all costs. When this happens, the innocent lives of those involved, along with truth itself, often gets trampled in the stampede to safety.
Very, very true
"If the likeliness of an event to happen is >0, it's not so much a matter of "if" it but "when" it will happen."
So I guess we'll just have to wait for the next nuclear desaster to happen.
This analysis seems more relevant now than ever. Perhaps current events will have a profound impact like you’ve outlined.
This is so tragically, ecologically prophetic...
Fantastic video, as always: thought-provoking and moving. I just love this show, it deserves mention among HBO's finest programs (and that's some amazing company). I love that it's a parable of how we refuse to see the dangers of climate change, ignoring scientists because it's politically inconvenient to acknowledge an impending disaster.
It was a great show; it deserved to be analysed by LSoO. Cheers, mate!
Very much appreciate, your dissection of, a vastly complex thing. Not sure what more to say, but you have my interest.
My favourite youtuber just dropped a video!! Yessss!!!
Yes! I’m always so psyched when you upload!
I'd absolutely love for you to make a video exploring Kingdom Hearts. Kingdom Hearts is perhaps one of the most creatively ambitious projects that Square and Disney ever produced, and it served as an excellent vehicle to explore concepts such as light vs. darkness, worlds, connections, hearts, friendship, existence, all with recognizable characters to the audience.
YOU SHOULD HAVE A MILLION SUBS
Thank you for this video .... Amazing work as always
This hits differently with Covid19 outbreak
Watching these people collapse is too heartbreaking.
Thank you you changed lives and help people through difficult transitions you mean the world to all of us
This video was ahead of its time. It is highly relevant to what you are seeing daily for the last year.
We live in a society where lies are passed as facts, and facts as lies. Political entities and groups take advantage of this age of information and disinformation to pursue sectarian interests. Part of it has to do with SM acting as a great multiplier, but in truth it is mainly due to the fact that becoming an “expert” on so many different fields is humanly impossible. Not that we, as a society, will not find a solution to these multifarious problems (we humans are the history of trial and error, and improving along the way), but in fact the journey to reach a path with credible institutions, information sharing in a responsible way, and sustainable progress will take a very long winded time. In the end, as hard as it may seem, and as meaningless as our efforts might be perceived, it is on every single one of us to point out the false, the lies, the injustice. It takes a great deal of courage to do so. Not sure if humanity, as an aggregate of a myriad of individualities is prepared yet to do so. Time will tell
As always, a wonderful essay!
Thank you 😊
Luv from Portugal 🇵🇹
4;46 that babushka is still alive, in her house, deep in the Exclusion Zone. Surrounded by a new forest, with animals who don't seem to have any problems with successful reproduction. Read about her in Scientific American. food for thought.
Oh aye! Love your work, it's a pleasure to see a new LSOO video! Your work is really valued, and valuable. Thanks.
After discovering your channel I am handpicking those movies to watch that have been analysed so deeply and throughly here .. Thanks for the philosophy behind the cinema. Are there any other channels like yours that I can follow .. please suggest ..
2020 speaks so close to this video, amazing work my man.
would really love to see your thoughts on True Detective season 1
YO TOM... DO THIS!
Oh! I’ve been waiting for this
Amazing work once again. The ultimate dream is for you to do 2001 space odyssey please consider this
Incredible work
An awesome analysis. As telling as it is entertaining. Kudos.
Chernobyl was the best thing I saw this year. This here is the second best. Brovo. Well done.
You and storytellers on a same day with important topics, this is awesome!
This is very well done. I learned a lot. Thanks so much.
A very well thought out and made video 👌
Three years after this video, the lesson I’ve learned is that modern risks + expert culture + multilateral strategies = increasingly totalitarian frames and destruction of the sovereignty of the individual. The true danger of modern risks is that they accelerate the artificiality of developed society at the cost of human resilience.
The slow degradation of that firefighter was horrifying
This was far more helpful than the hundreds of peer reviewed articles I failed to fully grasp on Beck’s work. Thank you for taking the time and dedication to put this into a gripping, engaging narrative. I imagine it was an uncertain and risky slog learning all the skills you needed to put this together.