It's Not Me, It's My Basement - Feed A Monster In Your Basement & Nothing Bad Will Happen
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- It's Not Me, It's My Basement is an RPG Maker Horror game where you must keep a monster fed in your basement everyday and night or else.
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@@isaiahp.4609 Wha-
ngl I too kinda feel bad for the doctor. sure he might come across as an annoying nosy person to some people, but he really seemed like a genuinely helpful fellow and not just doing it because its his job.
Yeah, I'm really sad about him dying
yea he didnt deserve that, the game did him dirty
He just wanted to help out, and the protag barely even emotes on his death
He seemed nice. I wished that they will have more time to talk.
I love your profile XD its Hanako
I'm really upset that Dr. D. Light died
Like, he was a really sweet man, I liked him a lot
Sure, he may sound annoying, but he is genuinely helpful and really cheerful
He tried his best. 😔
I wuld fucking kill a dog for doctor d light to live again
He was such a treasure, definitely deserved better
I was really expecting an ending in which he would be able to kill the monster, to Embry's surprise
😭 I know! Poor D. Light!
This seems to be very symbolic for me. The first big clue I got was from when you look at Embry's drawing. Their initials spelled E.G.O, like the mind. And from what Monster!Embry said about being afraid of being a monster themselves and Dr. D saying that "getting help would take away the excuse of why this was happening". It seems that Embry is suffering from some kind of mental or internal struggle but refuses to address it because doing so would mean having to deal with the ugly side of themselves. They feed 'it' to keep it quite, to ignore it, but that only makes it bigger to deal with. Harder to control. But facing it means dealing with consequences and that's scary. Like the Doctor said, you have to keep moving forward or else nothing will get done, and I think that's what happens at the end. Embry making the choice to finally face their problem instead of letting it grow and fester.
i think its likely just symbolism for some sort of mental dillema. as all the other NPCs at the market are simply faceless to them. not just that but they likely are the one who sees D light as just a clown for even offering to help, despite likely having been a real doctor. by the end where she just goes back to sleep it likely just means they're ignoring their problem again as the doctor failed to help, becoming just another faceless NPC during the cutscene. and like the doc said. they're likely just using that mental disorder, maybe something like anxiety or depression to justify growing stagnant
i do really like the idea of it being some sort of literal manipulating shapeshifting monster though
To some it up. It all means "you're your worst enemy".
Yeah I think embry is the monster because of the blood on the apron and the flashback with her dad where she's hiding behind the canvas or something is hiding behind (not sure) its just a theory
Well well well, I see... you guys are a man of culture for psychologies as well.
I don't think she's evil, but feels guilty. D light said it's a big staircase, she might have caused her parents to fall and now either her, or the newly deceased Light, blames her in the end
I realised that in horror games there is always an adorable positive minded character that dies tragically
*WHY. IS. THIS. TRUE.*
It's to give us the sad
Witch’s house….
@@smidge742 I mean, viola kinda fits that, even tho we only find out about it in the end
@@smidge742 the frog
All I could think after reading the title is:
“I’m sorry this can’t work out, it’s my basement”
Good to know it wasn’t just me lol
Believe it or not, this is actually used as a concept in the dark comedy/psychological horror comic book called “Johnny the Homicidal Maniac.” It's written by Invader Zim creator Jhonen Vasquez. In the comic book, the main character Johnny is a mass murderer who keeps telling others that he needs to kill people in order to "feed the wall" in his basement. As the story progresses, it's revealed that the "wall" in his basement is literally alive and it's completely blood red. If Johnny doesn't kill enough people, the "wall" would turn into an eldritch abomination that will engulf the world within its bloody red mass. I won't spoil the ending for you guys but please check out this comic book, it's really good.
Boss: What's wrong with your basement?
"Why won't you come over to see it yourself?"
@@Starry_Wave Just add it to my "need to read it" list. I have a big list like that, but unfortunately i'm too busy lately and tired to do that. 😞
@@bluebeka2458 I'd suggest making sure to read the two spinoff titles "Squee!" and "I Feel Sick" as you're going through JTHM, as one is about a little kid Johnny just sorta _decided_ to call his best friend in the main story, and the other is about Johnny's ex-girlfriend. Basically, they're extended lore on the Crapsack World JTHM is set in.
I love how confused as fuck Embry quickly became when Dr D.Light congratulated her about the bread box being her "big brother"
"Big Brother" Bread Box means she inherited the Bread Box.
I'm Guessing Bread Boxes are the sort of Kitchen appliances that double as Heirlooms.
Kids don't get multilayered jokes. It wasn't a particularly funny joke, but I _got_ it. [confused.little.girl.gif]
Onii-pan. I like it.
How did he know the bread box was a he...?
@@embercoral You don’t wanna know their history.
With the main character not eating, and only feeding the monster, I do believe they are literally supposed to be the same, and not only a skinwalker or whatever
I noticed that too. The protag never once mention about being hungry
Oh yeah we playing as her perspective maybe and we not seeing behind the scene so in dream we see her predator side I guess.
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@@chaldeantimothy8827 refer to them with they/them or i will eat your bones! 😊
@@aimsmeis uhh why? The other characters adress Her as a girl why should we not?
This feels a lot like a metaphor. Keeping the monsters in your basement "fed", taking it day by day, the monsters getting hungrier and more demanding... it feels like someone trying to break an addiction.
yeah, her dreams feel like her conscience and the painting staring at embry when the door is open on the last night feels like it's silently judging her, this feels like a psyche thing
I took it to be a rather literal shapeshifter just doing gaslighting stuff. But otherwhise it fits mental illness quite well too, especially at the end where she confronted "herself" where it talks about why she wouldnt want help, because she would have to actually change stuff if she did
Though in actuality here this was probably just her feeling hopeless about improving the situation, not wanting people to die, and not knowing what to do.
Yeah, is like when you are depressed and feel like you are a attention seeker in your mind. And that you think only about yourself. Hopeless and perhaps "addicted" to this state of mind because you are stuck and you don't know what to do. And perhaps the fact that they need to start to take decisions for themselfs and it feels like a burden that they have to carry. They need to move foward, to move one, but there will be always something that they can't let go. Idk i just feel like it fits the game story.
Yeah. Feels like this plot could be taking place in the 90s. The vibe kinda feels like a Sat AM cartoon gone extremely wrong.
Another metaphor it could also fit into is seasonal depression. I’m considering that the outdoors looks rather cold and hostile, Embry’s been caring for the monster for 4 months (which can be the time period somebody goes through seasonal depression), and the D in Dr. D. Light’s name could represent day. Her parents’ absence could mean they either also are affected by the condition or they don’t really understand what’s going on either.
Edit: Apparently Embry’s gender neutral. Swap she with ‘they’. Apologies!
@@travislyonsgary is the basement staircase really so long that tripping down the stairs just kills you
Anyone else notice when the basement door was knocked open that the painting behind the couch started staring at Manly
YEAH I did too and I thought he would have pointed it out
Timestamp?
and the couch looked like teeth
@@xiutecuhtli15 I didn't notice that, now that I do it looks even more creepy so thanks for the nightmare fuel
Yus i did
“What are your hobbies?”
*”Nothing.”*
“Pardon me?”
“I do read sometimes though.”
“Oh what do you read about?”
*”Nothing.”*
I laughed-
*Nothing* itself is pretty interesting though!
Pardon me?-
*XD*
Im going to write a horror story called nothing
When Dr. D. Light got thrown down the stairs I literally screamed ''NO DAMMIT I LIKED HIM" despite knowing it was gonna happen anyways-
Dude same he’s literally my favorite
Fr. I liked him :(
BRO ME TOO-
Same... He's an awesome design... He didn't deserve to die...
Thanks for spoiling that-
“it’s not me, it’s my basement” sounds like a sappy breakup line
Wait wha-
Or a light novel title
@@ElijahZX5 you never know!
@@riceseed definitely, the title of a Korean romance manhua or something 😂
LMFAO IT DOES!!
Man, I feel bad for the doctor. He sounds like a genuine good person who was really willing to help.
Yeah agree
Well, that does seem to be the point. Ngl I got spoiled by just wandering down here first, and was expecting the game to vilify him, but that doesn't seem like the intent.
The fact that a kinda nosy but helpful person gets hurt because of the protag also goes along with the addiction interpretation some people brought up. Therapists often come off as pressing, even if you know you're well-meaning, and the anxiety that you'll just drag others into your own problems is also fairly common.
@@northropi2027 yeah, so maybe EM here is insane, a few things could have happened then: 1 she killed her fokes and locked them in the basement. 2 her family left her cause she had issues or something. 3 her family IS don there and she killed the doctor so no-one would know
@@Gothymothmoth eh, I'm not sure about the interpretations where the monsters don't literally exist in-universe. It's important to note that "the story is metaphorical and conveys a message to the player" and "the story happens in a universe separate of reality that significantly departs from it with things happening at face value" are not mutually exclusive statements, just so we're on the same page here. This is gonna be kinda long but I wanna cover my bases.
Embry killing their parents is kinda hard for me to believe because there's not much of a hint that Embry could have done it. Other than the stairs, there's no weapon lying around and their account sounds like they saw something, but not their parents. The stairs seem plausible, but it's a bit of a stretch since frankly I don't think the stairs would be that reliable at killing people (seriously 3 for 3, two of them at the same time, other than D. Light's comment that it was a "long way down" how does that happen so consistently). There are also monster-implying events that don't make sense with non-monster explanations. The roars, the toybox, the blood, and the door opening on its own all are that things that can't be explained by the stairs. I'd be more convinced if certain other cues like the blood disappearing when Embry goes into the basement at the end were present, but since that doesn't happen any indication that D. Light died to a fall at the bottom of the stairs instead of being shredded near the top is missing.
There's also the lack of any sign of the monsters not eating everything they can. The basement scene lacks, say, a pile of food at the bottom of the stairs or the not-eaten bodies of Embry's parents and Dr. D. Light, but it's also a dream so maybe it doesn't count. Then there's the fact that Embry didn't see their parents die/being dead- there being monsters implies Embry went to the basement, saw something that wasn't two bodies, and locked it up. This is supported by the implication that the monsters attacked Embry too, during the dream with their father where it shows a painting of Embry cowering from a monster. Plus that same dream implies Embry's dad has horns, so this being less of a 1:1 reality analogue makes sense.
If the monsters were the parents- say, they got abusive and Embry pushed them down the stairs (how you'd kill two people that way is beyond me), that would explain why Embry sees the monsters but not their parents, because they *became* the monsters. However, this and the other explanation where the parents just left and Embry just assumes this means there's monsters in the basement don't explain all the stuff like the door opening, the entire subplot that implies the monsters have been getting out on their own, or the roars, plus I never noticed any implication that Embry's parents turned on them or vice-versa- that entire relationship seemed totally amiable. The only hint otherwise is that the dad used the phrase "eating us out of house and home" at some point, implying maybe that they couldn't support Embry? But that's never elaborated on enough to make very much of it. Heck, there's also the possibility that the parents have kind of just been chilling down there with broken legs for four months, making loud noises when food come their way, and D. Light died by means of stairs, but if that's the case, that means they've been able to get out, but never went to the police about it- which you could also say about Embry but at least they're a traumatized child.
Lastly, for being honest, "small child commits triple homicide" is... sort of a bad twist. Like that doesn't really effect what the author meant but on top of the reasons it seems unlikely to me that it was set up this way it's very much a handwavey "IT WAS ALL A DREEEEEAM" twist that you could say about literally anything with minimal evidence and still be hard to actually debunk. That being said, while I feel the "the face-value story isn't canonically what's happening" explanation is kind of a reach for most of the game's events, it partially makes up for this by covering the Embry-Embry convo of the first ending in a way that makes about as much sense as a literal maneater trying to convince the protag it's the same person- but the flipside of this is the D. Light nightmare kind of working in the opposite way, implying that the problem *does* exist outside of Embry (which also makes me question if there's supposed to be a singular canon we're *supposed* to interpret- which is fair but frustrating). The fact that Embry never eats a crumb on-screen but feeds the monsters also hints that Embry might be the monster, and if we're supposed to think about that then that seems to be the obvious interpretation. It even makes the title make sense, contextualizing it as Embry trying to externalize something they're responsible for- but I'm also not fond of that line of evidence because it makes the metaphor somewhat victim blame-y. It's really hard to make any interpretation work without blowing off *something* as unintentional, or active misdirection from the author, honestly.
My personal takeaways regarding the diagetic events, then, are as follows:
1: monsters are literal. The basement speech is one of them not accusing Embry of being literally the culprit but equating them to it as an enabler. Like us, it recognizes they could leave and call for help, but they refuse to because that would mean giving up some semblance of normalcy and letting their life fall apart even more- kind of child logic to let it get that bad with *literal monsters* but facing your own issues is hard for anyone.
2: monsters are literal, and Embry is a literal maneating monster in denial. This explains the lack of a weapon and also works to what something someone else pointed out- Embry's last initial being O makes her name, by D. Light logic, Embry O. (also E.G.O. with the middle initial), implying they're literally becoming something. It also adds a layer to the monsters (being Embry) getting hungrier lately- they might be developing faster- and could tie into the superficial differences Embry's family has from the rest of the people shown. This keeps us from having to go too far out on a limb of layers and layers of hallucinations without also having to find literal interpretations for *everything* but has its own problems and still kind of ends in a no u.
3: monsters are fake, parents died in an accident or left without Embry's involvement (again, I don't think Embry could/would have killed them if not because of the reasoning interpretation 2 implies) and they're suppressing that memory and replacing it with monsters, D. Light was probably pushed, lots of stuff is hallucinations. I should have made it clear I think one or two make more sense to me personally, though.
@@northropi2027 holy
The painting in the living room... The two dots on the wings, they actually moved when you woke up during the night, like eyes, now staring in your direction. It shouldn't have been as creepy as it was, but those tiny details always get me
wait, those are wings!? I always thought those are eyes, and it looks like cat's eyes to me.
@@returneefromthemoon They do look like both. The eye imagery is of course intentional, but if you look in the middle of the image, it looks like the body of the butterfly, plus there's a pair of smaller wings below. So I'd say both are correct
When i notice it- it literally spook me-
I saw that too I was more freaked out then I was in the whole story..
I wanna like this but ur likes are 888 i dont want to ruin it
“Well...I suppose it was a *delightful* meal”
No.
_Never make that pun ever again._
The other option was DLightfully Delicious
@@ManlyBadassHero I can’t tell which one’s worse, honestly at this point i might feed myself to the demons…just to avoid hearing any more terrible puns like that 😑
@@ManlyBadassHero I Love Someone Just Like My Self
@@ManlyBadassHero are you a father?
cus it sounds like it
@@ManlyBadassHero Ho, ho, ho...
D. Lightfully devilish, Manly!
The reason embry gets upset about the word monster is because she IS the monster. The ending where you go down and see blood splatters show on the walls out of nowhere is Embry making them as she walks through, but she still tries to picture herself as a little girl when she transforms.
The ending with the doctor, he is talking about forgiving her for being a monster and that she needs to get help for it.
@Yacine Alimazou probably guilt
Embry isn't a "she",is a nonbinary child,it is written in the game's info
@Yacine Alimazou when is the jumpscare?
I think the monster isn't Embry but instead the monster is a problem Embry and their parents faced. Could've been something like anxiety, depression, or something along those lines. Maybe Embry's parents died from suicidal thoughts or something like that and didn't get help so Embry hid it from everyone and hid their own problems from the world as well. The game ending is them going to get help.
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No ones gonna talk about how Embry’s last name starts with O, not only spelling EGO on the board but Embry O. Implying that whatever is happening is growing/evolving from them, which if you take the “bad” end in a literal sense it is true.
Holy shit - I was blindsided by the initials being EGO... I didn't notice Embry O. Christ that's Death Stranding levels of naming. Good spot.
Nice catch
Which one is the bad end?
I don't get it, embryo?
Oh wait I get it now.
The part where Embry "lost" the key, I honestly just assumed the Doctor has stolen it as an excuse to get a look around her house to see what her living situation was. Then once they were finished he just dropped it into the chest behind her back when she wasn't looking.
That would actually be a pretty clever thing to do.
The only problem I see with that is how did Dr. D. Light know which key was to be used for the basement or that what the source of Embry;s problems was inside of the basement?
That would be pretty clever symbolically, with Embry having a hard time opening up to D Light, she can't find the key because she didn't want to open up to him. But as they talked more and they felt more comfortable around D Light, Embry eventually found the key and opened up a bit. At least, that's what I think
“Do you think I Smell, Lucille?”
“YES.”
Imagine if Lucille actually responded like that! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@•Akiroplayz• basically, lucille is the lady in the jam stand, and she asked if embry needed help with laundry, and embry replied with “do you think i smell, lucille?” And manly said YES
@•Akiroplayz• im sorry if its complicated im soo bad at explaining things ‼️😍
@@EthanMeatan nahh mate, that's the joke
@@prasyaspaceagency7067 huh
Dr. D. Light is actually pretty adorable looking
Ikr I want a plushie of him
@@youraftermyrobotbee here’s a simple tutorial on how to make one!
Step 1- splatter some red paint on the ground
Step 2- profit!
They're both pretty adorable looking
@@largeboi4678 oh you cheeki breeki
@@largeboi4678 I love Dark Humor
Okay but ever since I saw Dr. D Light following Embry to their house, I was already like "Embry's gonna use him to feed the monster" lmfao
Monsters*
@@doverboy1 a⅞
@@dedear8992 why do you have seven eighths of a lowercase a
We'll never know if it was her intention or if it was an accident ~
😀🔪🤡
Manly: I do not trust this man
Me, looking at the exact same funky doctor: I trust this man with my life
I mean yeah dr funk beat sure had a glow up
I trust the man he was so cute
I can tell he's the kind of doctor that doesn't harm at all when doing blood analysis, gives the best stickers, draws cartoon characters on caskets and tells the best family friendly jokes.
I thought he was gonna be the bad guy that acts nice at the start
I saw him and hear Manly say that an immediately went "I trust him! How could you not?"
He had a little sun necklace!
This game or the end has the same aura as: “do you blame yourself?” “W-what?” “Well it’s normal for a patient to feel guilt in this incident” “what incident?” “The accident”
It... kinda does. Man, I really need to finish watching lucids
What's that from?
Here's my take on the story;
Embry lives a happy life with their parents until their parents somehow die. Three things happen to Embry; they're traumatized, they blame themselves, and they repress the memory. Embry starts "feeding the monsters". It represents them pushing down their trauma and refusing to work through it. Embry blaming themselves is why the monster looks like Embry.
Embry keeps "Feeding the monsters" and getting food from the shopkeepers. They do this for four months until Dr. D Light arrives in town. The events from when Embry meets D Light to when he falls down the stairs occur. He doesn't die and just gets knocked out. The "blood" isn't actually blood and is either just in Embry's head or is the raspberry jam from the sandwich Embry threw down the stairs.
The dreams Embry has are just nightmares because of trauma. The game ends with Embry confronting their trauma and going into the basement. (This next part is just my headcanon) D Light helps Embry work through their trauma like a therapist. I like to think that either D Light or one of the shopkeepers would adopt Embry.
Where is delights body though? If he was knocked out wouldn't his body be down near the stairs?
*confusion*
@@raccoonnewsreporter5567 did you not watch the part when Embry wakes up they say that it was just a nightmare?
@@ishvalda_ I d I d but I like him too much for him to be not real so my brain thought it was rhetorical
@@raccoonnewsreporter5567 He might be dead but we never actually see the basement. We only see it in Embry's nightmare. So we never see if he's dead or not.
@@raccoonnewsreporter5567 maybe the monster ate him whole?
Nightmare D. Light is 100% in character. His mask starts slipping off, revealing fleshy insides, and the mad lad just puts it back on like nothing happened.
Very true, Embry's mind seems really good at keeping people true to how they acted previous, even the monster itself. Monster's manipulative? 'Embry' is manipulative. D. Light's kind and coocie? 'D. Light' is too. Makes ya wonder. Half of me wants to say that the monster actually did get out but instead of eating Embry it decided to knock her out cause it knew she'd end up making a mistake because of it, but at the same time my other half says at that point it should've just ate 'er regularly.
@Duriano Dialos
Ah but then it wouldn’t have a semi-reliable source of food. If a literal child can see through its ruse then the people in the town might as well, and then it’s screwed.
@@durianodialos9387 coocie?
Rip
@@notreallyagameranymore I saw that too and giggled my ass off. 90% sure they meant kooky.
If they added an "H" to that word, technically they'd be calling him hysterical.
The conversation where the monsters mimic their voices takes on a different tone when you watch it a second time;
"Embery": "This has gone on for long enough...Do you really hate yourself this much...I want out!"
Anyone else notice the plant growing when she was cleaning the window despite everything being gray and dead when she went to the market? I think the locked up "basement" is actually the front door and Embery is afraid to leave the house after losing her parents (likely due to a car accident since she says she didn't see them die), the market was just imaginary, and most likely Dr. D was just a toy she was projecting onto.
Oh god-
That's a terrifying theory
But why did blood came through below the door? It's not symbolic.
@@Vandarte_translator he died
@@Lamprocapnos_spectabilis I know. I'm just pointing out that the theory is empty because there is not another way to explain the blood.
I think the biggest clue that the "monster" is symbolic, rather than a literal monster in the basement, is the fact that when the doctor arrives the protagonist suddenly can't find the key to unlock the door & when they do find it it's hidden inside of the old children's toy in her room.
Up til now, the food the protagonist has been apparently throwing down the stairs hasn't actually been going to a "monster" at all - if anything, the protagonist themselves has probably been eating it considering we never actually see them eat anything themselves - but in either case it's clear that the door hasn't actually been opened until it *had* to be opened after the doctor arrived.
I was confused about the key part! I like this theory ^-^
I think this is the most probable theory. I'm assuming that maybe the parents died going down the basement and this was her way of coping with it.
*they
There's many ways people can interpret the ending, people can say she went down there to look, but I don't think that's it. I think she threw *herself* down there as food because she had no choice left.
Yee
would make sense because she litteraly looked like she walked on air for a few seconds
That wouldn't make sense because she says "Its gone on long enough" presumably to mean that she would confront the 'monsters' and stop feeding them, which *again* could symbolize her finally trying to work through her trauma
*jeesus* -
@@atlas7499 I wonder why she didn't leave.... I mean, if she already knew her parents were dead, she could run away or find help, she didn't have to face the monster unless she thought she'd never run from it
Dr. D. Light: *Paints some flowers on his mask*
Also Dr. D. Light: "I am something of an artist myself"
Ah yes, articism.
*Well, I didn't lie, didn't I?*
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@@dr.dlight149 u have big talent 👁️👄👁️
@@dr.dlight149 YOUR ALIVE 😯
"Your dad used to live in the Windows Xp Desktop background?"
I'm dying rn dude
Timestamp?
@@cr3epet277 1:20
Ouch
I mean it is a place irl
this shit was really good, especially considering how short it was. the way the doctor was humanized, made to be so likeable, before he as inevitably killed... damn. and so many ways to interpret it as well.
Manly, you'll never be a commercial airline pilot
Manly: Alright everyone, this is your captain speaking. We're just experiencing some light turbulence, but everything is ok. Nothing bad will happen.
I predict that right after you say that, a swarm of flying vampires will descend onto the plane.
Rogue magus unleash vampire zombie bees so I gotta take the whole plane down
@@ManlyBadassHero Goddammit, are you really trying to take us down with them!?
@@starhammer5247 The captain goes down with the ship. He's just making the passengers honorary captains.
@@Urza26 I didn't ask to be on this plane!
@@ManlyBadassHero Wait is that a reference to Fate/Zero?
I saw the protag and was worried they were going to start talking about hope and despair.
It remembers me of nagito too
i knew that im not the only one!
BAHAHSHS
its not me its the death game in my basment
PLS I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST NAGITO TOO-
D. light : *staring at the door* Could this kill me?
Embry: well, no, but actually, yes.
But also maybe no
I could attack embry , this girl will die😍😍😍😍
@@KiratiTatiyagarunwong what in the goddamn...
What in the goddamn what?
"It's not me, it's my basement" sounds like Embry trying to seperate themselves from the 'monster', which represents their trauma and them not wanting to deal with it, which leads to them 'feeding it' and unknowingly making it stronger.
Yes. And also 'my basement' could mean 'my depths' or 'the things I suppress'
“Yeah peanut butter... and jelly time.”
“You gotta feed your basement occasionally”
Alr I have my spaghetti I didn't finish. Give it to my basement..
PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!!!
family guy meme flashes
@@stickmanweirdadventures2550 *banana intensifies*
@@ProfessionalBugLover more like *memories intensifies*
I kinda wanna mention that the layout of the basement seems like the route of the body's intestines. And the long staircase down symbolizes the esophagus, slowly swallowing her. I just think it goes well with the whole "the house is alive" thing people are talking about, like the eye painting looking at Embry around the 37 minute area, with the white couch looks like teeth. In fact, it kind of goes well with the metaphorical phrase "going into the belly of the beast" and another theory I think is cool to dwell on: What if the basement itself is the monster? The basement is full of so much stuff that Dr D Light didn't fall that far, but was genuinely eaten by the basement, explaining the blood. The Embry inside of the basement could then be a representation of her guilt, and fear. She's feeding into her guilt and fear by letting this continue and the longer she does, the more it threatens to find a way out. That is why the door is open and she gives in to the monster by going in, she's been overcome by fear and guilt.
I think the dad hurm embry and mom was killed by dad trying fight back.
@@isabelfranqui3504 That could also be a possibility. It's one of those theories that doesn't really fit in properly with the tone of the game's story, but it's also easily applicable to any situation where the parents are seemingly nowhere to be found.
Cool but I’m pretty sure embry is non Binary
Also thought the couch looked like teeth and the corridor was a stomach
@@Marsthegreaat is that important
I wish there was a alternate option where embry could ask Dr. D. Light to help by taking her with him, or just burning the house down with the oven
Yeah
Same
Mhm
*them
embry actually uses they/them pronouns, just informing you
I really liked this game. I interpret it as a metaphor for using avoidance as a coping mechanism, which is something I do, so this was weirdly relatable. I actually relate to Embry on certain levels, which is something I didn't expect. The part where D Light said that they didn't want help because then they wouldn't have an excuse anymore hit me really hard. I wasn't expecting to get called out at 4 AM by the pun man.
☝️
*they
@@galaxychill9578 oh! My bad, thx!
This entire game feels like a big metaphor for being unable to face your traumas. Specially bc of Embrys nightmare with Doctor D. after he died.
Wtf beidou i never knew you watched horror make nigguange watch it with you
Hhi bbeidddou
doc D is alive
i think... he's in the recent game along with embry's mum... sooo...
@@northernalpine4350 so who's blood is that?
@@サディスティック人 Jam
I feel bad for the doctor- he seemed nice and was actually worried about embry-
One thing that hit me on rewatching is how well written the shop-keeper characters are. Even though they each only get a few lines, you get a clear sense of their personalities. And the fact they're showing concern, and offering help, and presumably letting Embry have food for free, gives the impression of a close-knit, supportive community. It's a nice change from the conventional backdrop of horror games. And somehow makes what's happening feel even more tragic.
“You’re not scared of any monsters coming out to get you in the woods?”
Very poor choice of words...
I believe that Embry would though dering this would be: "No, I already have Monsters down my basement thank you very much!"
I like to think that in a parallel universe Dr. D Light adopted Embry and they traveled together.
same
Someone please write a fanfic about that
@@nevada1905 I would read it. It would be so wholesome.
Traveling by train with smiles on their faces😊
@@nevada1905 I thought fanfics were all lewd and shit w h a t
"Your dad used to live in the old Windows XP Background?" Dude. That's not just a burn. That's a fucking ROAST!!
I mean, what if he actually did? It would explain a lot.
Bliss
@@Wilus0 interesting name
A few theories:
1. Embry died and this is from their parents' headspace. The monsters are actually reality coming for the parents.
2. Embry's parents died and they had a mental breakdown. So, this is in Embry's mind. That's why they feed the monsters. So that they don't have to deal with the harsh realities
3. Embry's parents are monsters and Embry keeps them fed out of fear.
Perfect man
Nice theories
@@vespertineable Uh thanks 😳
@@miguelmartins5968 Really?
@@kitsumekat my theory is that when they goes into the basement the cycle starts all over again but this time they are the “monster”
The way the painting of the eyes looked towards the left after the door busted open was a really great touch
Ib flashbacks
Dr. D. Light: "Oh? But don't your clothes get dirty? And what about when you need to shower?"
Embry: "I just wash my clothes during my shower."
Ah, the Papyrus method.
whem embry cool:
"Im washing me and my clothes"
Cary Grant did it in 1963. (The movie "Charade.")
Life hack 👍
I thought of the vine “I’m washing me and my clothes” lol
Me: Aw, the protagonist looks cute! I hope nothing bad happens to them!|
Me: *sees the game is a horror game played by Manly*
Me: oh...
Lol mood
I usually don't get attached to characters, and I knew that Dr. D. Light would die, but DAMN IT IT HURT MY SOUL AND ALMOST MADE ME CRY
Bro same RIP dr d light
:(
Same and I feel heartbroken as fuck
*Well I hope you're alright, and please do not fret, Everything will get better, promise.*
NO PLEASE D. LIGHT WAS SO WHOLESOME I DONT THINK MY HEART CAN TAKE THAT HE'S DEAD GDDVBHFGDGBREG 💔
The stairs weren't actually that long, since that whole sequence was in a dream, and therefore not real. Basement stairs are usually wood, and he had all the food down there to cushion the fall, I think hes fine. That, of course, isn't factoring in the variable of the possible monster down there if one actually exists, but since its heavily implied to be symbolic I'd wager there's a good chance hes alive.
Oh why must the good die young...
@@vellinghem2187 did you not see the message above? Hes like, got 80% chance of being alive
I ACTUALLY CRIED-
he was so relatable
I think a lot of this is in her head, as in the game she never eats or goes to the bathroom, and after the good doctor dies his blood somehow leaks under the door, despite the game going out of its way to mention the incredibly long staircase.
That is the freshest looking plague doctor ive ever seen
*was the freshest
@@dori6326 I SWEAR TO GOD.
@@burgerhouseinthehouse2079 I’M SORRY I HAD TO
You never had to
@@RustyBrick89 i'm a midori kinnie its part of my soul
Id like to think that the doctor simply bumped his head and so he let out a very pained, monstrous yell Before passing out.
Then Embry, being the humble child she is, politely went down the next day to give him breakfast and wake him up.
@McKayla Marille
Exactly. It was the peanut butter jelly sandwich. She knew he liked strawberry.
*Haha, quite an imagination you have there my friend.*
Dr D Light!!! You're here! :D
@@Umbr0 *Why yes, I am.*
Hey, i do have a question though- What happened after you fell down the staircase, D Light?
Lol imagine having a basement.
-this post was made by flats gang
I couldn't imagine *not* having a basement
-Your Local Child Kidnapper.
Eyy
Lol imagine having a basement
-this post was made by Hawaii Gang
I could also imagine having a basement, but I'm not going to
- a Brit who doesn't have a basement
This post was made by the boiler room gang
I think she killed them.
I think something happened and she brutally killed her own parents and threw their bodies in the basement. And then, traumatised by what she had done she repressed it, but it wouldn’t keep. And she started having suicidal thoughts.
If you notice, she may feed the “monsters”, but she never actually eats. I think food helps her suppress her emotions. But it’s becoming harder and harder. She blames herself and then vehemently denies it. She needs more food. Food reminds her of normality. “It’ll be okay”, she thinks. “Nothing happened. I didn’t do anything.”
She lies to everyone and tells them that her parents are sick. But then an actual doctor comes. And he get’s close. Really close to discovering her secret. But she has to deny it! If the doctor finds out, then she’ll be unable to deny it anymore to herself. She tries and tries to stop him, but she never actually upright stops him. That’s her subconscious acting up. No matter how much she may deny it, deep inside she knows the truth and wants help.
But when the doctor comes close? She panics. Fight or flight kicks in, and she chooses fight. She trips him, and down the stairs he goes, dying in the process, her secret is safe. And for one split second, one tiny moment in time, she feels the exhilaration, the rush of killing someone, or taking someone’s life. The very same rush that she felt when she murdered her parents.
Immediately afterwards she desperately tries to suppress it once again.
But it’s too late. All the trauma she went through, it’s all back to the very front. Everything she had been suppressing for months, now comes right back up. She tries to resist, to suppress it. It’s too much. She can’t do it anymore. She cracks.
She decides it’s done. No more. She goes down to the basement, where the rotting corpses lie, and kills herself.
A nice theory but we will never know until they make a sequel for this game
I like your theory
hey, i love your theory alot, but i just wanted to inform you that embry is non-binary. their pronouns are they/them.
@@choerryysoda yes, but embry appears female, and she is easier than saying they
@@noahoakley339 just because their physical appearance is of a female doesn't mean they identify themselves as one. Whether a set of pronouns are less complicated or not, you need to respect one's preferences.
I'm over here screaming on the inside on how much manlybadasshero sounds like so many voice actors
Y'know, I wonder how different things would have been if Embry had simply explained instead of opening the door...
Or the drawing that embry put on the fringer that calm days.
compared that with blury flachbach embry was painting with her dad showing but little horns on dad when painting with embry on dad painting show big redish creature.
Embry only drawing small figure trying to get away from redish big creature.
Well they are a kid and have been traumatized, it'll be hard to explain the truth
I can imagine how that would've went
" *aren't you going to open the door?* "
"Well, uhm,"
" *?* "
"I cant really theres something..."
" *something what?* "
"Hard to explain but it's like a monster, and I'm sure my parents aren't sick and somewhere else..."
" *...* "
"..."
"..please dont try to go in there.. for your own safety."
*to be continued*
The protag is literally "when your dead inside but still cute AF"
Pretty sure that's a child, bro
@@thenerdmaster9381 and children arent sometimes really cute?
@@ZenDragoonYT they probably think OP meant it in a very, very bad way.
@@wildfire9280 definitely raises the issue of why we use cute to refer to children, pets, etc. but also to refer to attractive young people.
cute k i d s
Here’s a theory: one day while embry’s parents were fighting embry got so scared/mad that she pushed them down the basement stairs killing them and created the monster as a coping mechanism after dr.D. Light comes to check it brings back those memories and she does it again without realizing it. The next morning she can’t forget what happened so she goes into the basement and sees the truth
Evidence: we never see what the monster accuracy looks like
The guilt of dr. Light is one nightmare while the other is her showing that subconsciously she sees herself as a monster and deserves to be punished
Embry only had good memories of her parents which can show that she pushed all the bad memories away
Some things can be seen during different events such as the creepy painting with eyes looking at her which could be a form of hallucination and the shadow in the bed room
Funny.....this sounds like an episode from “Are you afraid of the dark?” When a guy had something down in his basement and it rewards the person who fed it.
OMG I LOVE THAT ONE.
funny??
Is that the one where he acidently fed his sister to the basement monster or was that a goosebumps basement story.
@@Parasolhyena yep of course it happens off camera. His sister was telling him to come upstairs for something or he get in trouble. And the guy gave off a mean and happy smirk at the camera and that’s it lol
@@striderk-jin5387 what’s the name of the episode?
Notice how she made food for them but didn't seem to make any for herself? And we're to assume that this has been going on for four months?
Yeah there's so many questions in such a short game. I wonder what ended up happening to her
Nah man she just eats on fridays-
@@coffeedoodles378 ha nice
@@gutiepiettv2432 I can imagine her hunger over time when the monster becomes more demanding. I've gone a day or 2 without eating recently and it really sucked. So it made me feel more sorry for embry
Yes!! I was thinking that too!!
In my opinion the basement was shaped like the digestive system, like the aesophagus being the long stairway, stomach, and intestines
Me after i read that there is someone in the town to help embry: *press F to pay respects*
F
F
F
"You were good girl, real good, maybe even the best"
@@thekingzhaul5914 YeY
When the doctor fell down the stairs I literally screamed, he was so wholesome 😭😭😭
same here, the doctor immediately became my favorite so as soon as that scene began
I let out a verbal frustrated noise :.)
Ikr 😭😭😭
Basement: exists
Dr. D. Light: Im about to end my whole career.
why is it so true?
Sad, but true.
NOOO he didn't deserve that crap honestly
Celeste is a game about integrating your Jungian shadow. This is a game about not doing so.
Me: Wow, Dr. D. Light is so creepy, they had to do that on purpose so we'd sacrifice him.
5 minutes later...
Me: Please don't kill him, he's my favorite :(
Ok but why is Embry so oddly adorable?
they looks like Nagito
CEO of waifus... Two? There was a first?
@@lynndreemur3767 yup. My first channel had to be deleted. So I made a new channel a while ago.
@Isabel Plamondon His business went under.
@@K4TAN4_B4NAN4 H O P E
everyone else is taking about the painting looking at Embry (which was a great touch, btw) meanwhile I'm fair shiting myself at D. Light's mask "slipping"...
Literally the scariest thing in this entire game.
WHY WAS IT JUST FLESH
@@WhoCaresDotCom And then it became v o i d
I was completely fine until that happened but I think it was supposed to be a metaphor for how he actually thinks and speaks without a "mask".
*Ah, I'm sorry, my mask has been getting harder and harder to keep on my face, my sincerest apologies.*
When was that? Did I miss it?
I’ve been following this artist for years now and seeing you play their game is so surreal
If the monster is symbolic, the doctor wouldn't die due to the sheer ammount of food cushion his fall.
Makes sense like four months full of rotten food. The smell must have been poison.
It depends, remember there could be bones in there from meat. Falling down stairs into a bone that only needs to find your neck.
If the injury doesn't kill you the impending infection will.
The only way you can die to smell is if it smells so bad you choke on your vomit. But thanks to the handy dandy mask, you would be used to horrible smells!
@@Buglin_Burger7878 MC is constantly unable to get meat at the market, so i highly doubt theres a bunch of bones. Maybe there's some broken ceramic based off the ceral line? But I'm pretty sure its probably just moldy bread and miscellaneous non-parishables & veggies. Also- as someone whos fallen down a flight of concrete stairs, i feel like the doc should have been able to survive that, since most basement stairs i see are wood and not stone
@@thisisaperson660 nah no ceramic from cereal, she chucked the carboard boxes down whole
but yeah doc should've survived easy, basement stairs in particular tend to be narrower and easier to catch yourself in by gripping the close walls
the monster is def literal, Embry's got a mimic down there
No matter what the meaning behind the story is, no child should have to go through this type of trauma.
Well good thing it's fiction, right?
@@devillass6025 hehe. Well you see, symbolically speaking... Its very possible. No matter the translation you come up with.
Literally tho, im with you on that one.
I know the creator of this game personally as she’s a good friend of my gf, and it really meant the world to her that you played this!! I know she would love if you played Cemetery Mary too, and as someone whose played it myself I think you’d really enjoy it, it’s much longer than this one and the story and dialogue are GREAT
Now tell us all the mysteries and secrets of this game lol.
I want to know what she had in mind as the meaning behind this
TELL ME ABOUT MY IDOL DR D LIGHT WHERE IS HE
*holding you at gunpoint* tell us everything now
Heya i know you didnt respond to anyone 2 years ago BUT PLEASE PLEEEEEAAASE TELL ME EMBRY IS ALRIGHT, i need that right now
I am sure that Dr. D. Light deserves his own thing in another game.
Good idea, Dr.D could travel around helping each patient with a specific problem with the last patient being embry but then the game finishes the moment embry approachs the doctor or we could see a different perspectieve from the doctor at the end with a ending different than the original game explaining why we see Dr.d and embry with her mother in crowscare (a game made by the same developer)
The title is like saying “Im not hacking, its my gaming chair”
XD
Lmao
"Im Not Gay! It is my Toilet Paper!"
Im not mad, but who broke it?
@@099nine4 relatable
My heart dropped when Dr D. Light fell down the stairs
Ayo pizza here
@@Haru-rs2su StOp
@@Haru-rs2su This give me Omori vibes
@@maybejackbright1581 haha yes!
*O-oh! Well I hope you're alright.*
therapist: thin asgore isn’t real, he can’t hurt you
thin asgore: 20:11
the fact that an ad for mario came up when i clicked the timestamp
@McKayla Marille He’s getting hella fit
@@blade9657 *yuh*
Lol
So im not the only one
Main character: having a mental breakdown that the basement door is open
Painting: 👀
Embry just needs a hug. Also I'm sad that the doctor fell. I wish he had lived.
Petition to have Embry get therapy and a new home.
*They
Why didn't anyone say anything about the blood on her clothes?! Or the green stuff on them? Or the general dirty look of the clothes? She didn't get Dr. D Light's blood on her clothes she already had it on her at 15 minutes in.
They said it's paint slight mentioned something and the townies said something about helping their clean them.(also the child is nb)
@@pastelx7 where is it stated Embry's nb? Just asking, genuinely curious.
@@Haru-rs2su on the games page
@@pastelx7 oh okay, thanks
Also your pfp is giving me ptsd
Monster’s gotta be real, pretty sure a weird allegory for addiction didn’t splatter Dr.D all over the carpet.
Not sure why the first plan of action was to walk straight into the lair of a vicious monster(s) and die though, Embry doesn’t seem to be as lucky as the hair-style suggests
Was that last part... supposed to be a Nagito reference?
In fact, I think the whole house turned into a monster. People noticed some stuff about the house like the couch growing teeth and the eyes staring at Embry around the 37th minute mark. This makes me think that the original monster may have been small, but over time it grew bigger and bigger until it took over the whole houhse. I even think that Embry is already dead a long time ago, the monster just kept her semi-alive (she doesn't seem to need food) because she's fun to torture.
I think Embry just has MPD and killed the parents and the doctor.
This Comment: ... Lucky...
Me: * thinking about Kokichi because he's name translates to "Little to no luck"*
When I first saw the thumbnail and title of this video, I thought it was gonna be a horror game about some psychopath kid who lures people into their house and feeds them to the monster in their basement, and then at the end, it gets revealed that the kid is actually sympathetic or something.
I'm glad I was wrong.
Yeah, nothing sympathetic about that kid.~
@@Flammifleure I meant that I was wrong about the kid being a psychopath.
@@shinyneko8136 xD I agree. There are plenty of commenters though who think Embry was crazy.
The game: It's Not Me, It's My Basement
RUclips: *U N D E R T A L E*
Your avatar oh my god!
I think youtube like undertale
I saw the dad and immediately thought he looked like Asgore
@@Zeforas I know >:D
I mean, look at the doctor. He has a blue eye, *just* like the famous Sans Undertale.
Same game, basically.
What do these horror game children even do to deserve having to deal with monsters or getting sent to purgatory-hell anyway?
Nothing and that is usually the point, They don’t deserve it most of the time. Emphasis on MOST of the time though.
@Hideri Chan And I'm ParableR, it's nice to meet you.
I don't know I still think it's a doppleganger or at least a monster who can mimic voices like a cat. xD Otherwise it's ability to try to guilt you into opening the door doesn't make a whole lot of sense in any other context. Also those were dreams. So it was probably that she felt guilty and just fed herself to the monster, but we may not have ever seen what the monster actually does look like.
Yeah
they took two pieces of candy from the "take one" bowl five years ago.
"Don't give into them their just kids, kids that eat flesh"
- ManlyBadassHero, 2021
I am amazed at how much I wound up liking this game. The characters get some great development despite it not being long, to the point that I legitimately felt really sad about Dr. D dying. It's open to interpretation without being pretentious IMO, and that's a hard balance to strike. I'm looking forward to seeing more of this creator's work!
"Dr D. is an interesting character, I like them a lot-"
*"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-"*
everyone's reaction in a nutshell:
How can I be so emotionally attached to two characters in a barely hour game
Whenever I see a character with messy white hair, the image of Nagito Komaeda just slowly materializes in my mind.
Pls the character does look like nagito
I ALREADY HEADCANONED THEM AS HIS LITTLE SIBLING SOON AS I SAW THEM BYE 😭
i just said 'nagito komaeda from the nintendo ds'
*n a g i t o*
they look like a mix of nagito and kokichi tbh.
Let me Tell you, that when Dr. D. Light died, tears we're shead
"D for Dinner." WELL OKAY THEN 😭😭😭💀
D is for dinner and you got bread
It doesn't help that she's a child
@@conni4518 XD yep-
@@conni4518 who is "she-"
@@user-vd943 your mother!
"These plants are plastic."
*"Like my soul."*
Plot twist: Manly’s soul isn’t as dead as he says it is :O
@@RaggedKnowledge96
Can't be dead if it never existed & was as empty as the trashcan.
We will remember the sacrifice of our very best comrade, D. Light. He brought joy to all of us, truly he was a friend to all. For plague doctors everywhere, we will all miss our closest friend.
I'm only gonna say this:
We see the mom without a head but the dad has horns and what looks to be animal ears and we never see his face or any hurt on him...
We also see a large creature moving towards a single cowering person in their paintings, the monster being the dad's painting and the cowering person being the daughter's painting.
This could very well be the good 'ol "doppelganger parent" story archetype or even a Werewolf story, due to the monster (the dad) not attacking her and perhaps fleeing into the basement to try to escape later or even just return to kill her once it's over it's remorse
They/Them.
@@galaxychill9578 I really don't want to sound like an asshole, but do we see those pronouns anywhere during gameplay?
Again, just want to know for sure before I change anything about my comment and don't want to rewatch an entire video I've already watched more than 2 months ago...
I was halfway expecting it to end with her going down the stairs into the basement and seeing a big pile of uneaten, rotting food.
Then where would her parents be?
@@DogDogGodFog under the pile probably.
Her initials on the fridge are E.G.O. And she's literally feeding her ego? Her ego is always hungry and it's always growing. The doppleganger was saying that they are the same and feeding it makes her feel better so I feel like it might be a play on that? Idk.
Her name and her last names first letter combined is Embry O.
EMBRYO.
It might be related to Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde. In that story Hyde represents the Id, the base instincts and desires of the human mind. Two other characters outside of the eponymous pair represent the Superego, the moral part of the human mind. Jekyl himself is the Ego, the rational part of the mind that tries to take the input from the Id and the Superego and uses it to figure out what to actually do.
Here, the monster in the basement is the Id, Embry the Ego, and D Light the Superego. Embry is trying to contain the destructive nature of the monster, and D Light tries to help them do that without actually knowing what's going on: He is blind to just how dark things can be. At the end, when D Light's guidance fails, they surrender to the monster entirely.
Ego.. They always rejected help from others even if it was for their survival. So yeah, maybe.
I've been a fan of this creator on Instagram since my sophomore year of high school, and I'm currently a freshman in college so needless to say, I'm really in love with her work. I've followed all her (public) updates for her games, so it's so amazing to see one get picked up by you! She really deserves so much love, she puts immense amounts of effort into everything she does and is just such a kind person. I really recommend Cemetary Mary, the characters, dialogue, and art are all incredible.
38:18 Imagine if when you go downstairs the doctor is still alive and the blood is the monsters blood. THat would be p insane. The doctor was like a legit plague doctor or exorcist or smthn.