Known Dennis for years and trained with him for a while. Top guy. Very intelligent, spiritual and anti-bullying. Having read some of the comments below I can say he was very varied in his techniques be them kicks, slaps or elbows. What you see here is just one example of a technique that could be used if the right circumstances presented. He understood and taught the importance of conflict resolution or diffusion but, as many commentators here will know, that is often interpreted by drugged and drunk revellers as weakness. They then up their game! I would encourage you to find more of his stuff. He was definitely the real deal in his era and was revered by all the martial artists, boxers and street fighters in a fairly tough area. Most importantly he was a decent guy and stuck up for the weak or vulnerable.
Never underestimate anyone. You should also never overestimate your power against them from past altercations. Never underestimate their pain threshold and assume they lack anysort of skill. Never let someone hostile get within an arm and a halfs reach
People will see this and criticize his no guard, technique or wide punches. He is not training for a mma/boxing bout, but for a pre emptive strike one shot knockout, in a street context this is spot on!!!
For me the best doormen are the ones that can use speech to defuse a situation rather than violence! In the past, before I got to old I occasionally worked the doors and if ever someone approached me obviously looking for a fight they mostly told me how hard they were and how they were going to beat me up and instead of escalating the situation I would agree with them and tell them that they probably could beat me up but I'd rather they didn't and could I buy them a pint a bit later and they are so surprised that I'm agreeing with them we end up having a good chat and they walk away as good as gold! No violence.... No ambulance and no police!!!! The best doormen are the ones that never need to fight!!! some people forget that their job is to avoid violence and it should only ever be used in self defence and when all other options have been tried first!
Spot on Gary. Your first line of defence is your brain & mouth. Being able to look after yourself is secondary. Admitting you mangled a guys face is nothing to brag about.
Working the door, I fortunately didn't have to use force much. I found when I did just throwing my mass (body) into the guy worked wonders. It is low-skill technique but it works. I know what he means by "I know it just works." What works, works.
As a 25+year professional bouncer. I know better than most that there are times when a doorman has to punch. But this guy is trying to teach people to throw PRE-EMPTIVE punches. There should NEVER be a situation where a doorman needs to do that. If you are feeling threatened you can restrain or take the guy to the ground. But you never throw the first punch. This is the reason we have a bad name. Don't get me wrong. I have worked in some real trouble spots. And we have had to let the locals know who was in charge. But this is not how it is done. I get up at 3.30 four days a week so i can train MMA from 4-6am. Just so I can do the job properly. Then some guy thinks he can show you how to do it in a 5min video on how to throw a sucker punch.
I agree with your comment however I have only worked a fraction of the time you have over the past 6 years in and around London, all of which have been troublesome doors (which to be fair every door is or we wouldn't be there, some worse than others). It seems the guy in the video is encouraging pre-emptive strikes which are appropriate 1% of the time and nowadays it's the last action you want to take as you're more than likely to end up down the Nick. Even over the past few years I have noticed a huge change and rapid increase in weapons being carried by punters, knives being the most common and have come up against it countless times. This video doesn't take into account the situation, nor does it give you any context in which a strike like this would be appropriate. When he walks into the 'pre-emptive strike' he is wide open from either side as the fella he's about to clobber won't be alone and his intent on his approach was clear and easily identifiable by any accompanying party. Walking into a situation like this will end in either one of two ways; the lemon that gets hit will be with a group who will most likely have half a kilo of dust up their hooter and will explode into a brawl, or the doorman will seriously injure the Customer ending in a night in the Cells and repercussions thereafter. I would only ever use a heavy pre-emptive strike like this if there was a clear threat to my team or my own safety or there was a threat of serious harm towards another Customer or member of the public. You have to whey every possible factor and contributing situational circumstance up before deciding to do something like this nowadays. It's never as simple as it's glorified to be in videos like this. One wrong move when intervening in confrontation can cost lives, FACT!
@@emperorbarbers3029 People like Dennis Jones, Peter Consterdine, and Geoff Thompson were from the 80s, 90s, and 00s era of violence in the UK. Like you are pointing out, how violence is carried out has changed (e.g. Weapons, and multiple attackers being far more common, it seems). I remember a self protection instructor pointing out that a lot the 'guy standing in front of you screaming their head off in rage' that Geoff And Peter talked about is less common, he said that now it's more common for people to be more subtle, non verbal, and taunting when it comes to their 'pre-fight' ritual. What do you think of that observation? Also now MMA and boxing training, along Weight Lifting have become mainstream and is available in practically in every city. A lot of young men have done some form of physical training. So it seems like Dennis', Peter's and Geoff approach seems to need modifying, to 2020 culture.
@@nopillpill Hi there, I'm not expert on this subject but I have read a couple of Geoff Thompson's books and he says that when you see a weapon the best thing you can do is run. Trying to be a hero against a knife could mean you end up in hospital or worse (and that's if you even see it). I take your point that the world has changed since his heyday though (as a poster above said, the much wider prevalence of street drugs like cocaine is one of the ways it's changed).
That step after the punch is called the Fitzsimons shift, you switch stances and shift your weight forward, stepping forward as you punch..from orthodox to southpaw and back
Punching beyond your target is a common thing people will say in boxing, to increase the force behind the punch. The offside to this is that it throws you off balance - especially if you miss. 'Falling in' could be a good thing if you connect, leaves you open if you don't. I do like his elbow strikes, a lot can be said for Muai Thai type boxing. And he definitely has some knowledge of what to expect in a street fight. But personally speaking, not a fan of 'falling into' things. Fall in then fall back into guard or a second counter. Keeping balance is integral to what often happens in a altercation which is someone will duck a or take a punch then go for a full mount (or at least push/tackle). So you get grabbed in a rugby tackle type offense in an effort to get you off balance and on the ground. If your balance and centre of gravity is on point then the person doing this to you will either end up on the ground as you deflect or take a blow be it a fist/elbow/knee or whatever you choose. But you won't get taken down, unless of course ground game is your forte in which case you will take someone to the ground when you want to, not the reverse. Still I like this guys technique for the most of it. I guess each to their own depending on what your strengths are.
Straight rights are more effective than hooks in my experience. Most people DO NOT KNOW HOW TO FIGHT. So they flayling punch, wild hooks and usually as fast as they can. Straight right to the chin followed by hard left uppercut.....good night. This is the option only when you cannot shoulder touch, rotate and choke out. Last report is to punch
If you read the interview with Dennis where he talks about seeing a patron hit a guy with a brick then he explains how that experience allowed him to see the effectiveness of a one shot KO. This , from memory, lead him to train to develop this kind of power and use it in the appropriate circumstance. In my opinion no one can judge another person for pre emltive striking in self defense unless they stood in their shoes.
Good wisdom. It always baffled me to see my friends install a punch bag where the ostensible point of impact is lower than their jaw-line, in crouched stance...it's like, assume the guy is taller than you man!
Very minimal and simplistic, not flashy or fancy but effective. This is Dennis Jones own personal approach to "pre emptive" striking for self preservation, might not win him a cage fight but would be effective in a "real fight".
this man is demonstrating how to deliver power in a preemptive strike. He utilizes body mechanics well. I like that he moves past the target and changes location of where he is standing. Falling forward and moving off to an angle is smart. It is hard to use legs and hips when your in an interview stance. Getting into a boxing stance is dumb and gives away the element of surprise. The comments about sucker punching is amusing. In the usa there seems to be different definitions of sucker punch also. I think he was demonstrating technique for that one critical moment.......not for every encounter with an asshole.
I have ended and won many fights just with my vocals and intent. Had a group of 4 teenagers be passive aggressive with me as I was waiting for the bus. "Hello sir, can we have some money and a cigarette?" ... but I sensed not humour nor good vibes I instantly stamped my foot on the floor, did an exaggerated over the top neck warm up and the classic knuckle crack, and then a loud, "WHO THE FUCK IS READY TO FUCKING DIE FIRST!!!" A loud Karate shout and stance. They ran off. No conflict no touch. The trick is to end fights before they erupt. I was actually prepared to fight but never happened thank goodness for me.
I really really don't agree with this. As a door man myself. Knowing that there are cameras on me at all times. Door men/wimen always use open handed strikes. This prevents serious damage at point of contact. I really agree with the technique of verbal discipline and solution. Also cover yourself by having a body cam on yourself or colleague from start of situation to get full story documented. Not just what passers by will tape on phone. " 3 to 4 guys holding a man on ground and it looks all out of context. Not showing the man in question looks his shit 10 minute before hand.
Hello, very often, details may make a difference. In the street, everybody wants to finish an attacker off as quickly as possible, or just to startle someone, to mess sb up. He seems to be an experienced man so, I guess, it's worth taking his tips into consideration.
The fall in technique is good for a good follow through punch, if you have the speed,bad if its someone bigger and stronger and they get hold of you though. Dustin Poirier is a good example of this technique.
its whats called preemptive- and i would say that if the swing connects the attacker will be destroyed- excellent information-as for its being a master class- of course it is-keep it simple and deadly--Ari of executive self defense
Yes, really impressed by this guy. What he doesn't tell those lounging and having their beer attendants is that on contact with a target's bony part they are going to break their hands and all they've got UNLESS they have done some serious hand conditioning in the past which none of them appear to have. Bouncers make themselves look super fighting machines knocking people down by the dozens when in reality all they are knocking down are dazed people drunk or high on drugs hardly capable to even stand on their own feet.
like the other reply i would have to emphasise drunks and drugged up assailants can be extremely unpredictable and very dangerous. so your comment downplays the reality. i worked the door 18 years back and was always very cautious of those under the influence because they can do anything. they are not an easy problem.
@@adamfreeman2348 Nobody says that working the door is a walk in the park. A doorman has to be on high alert all the time. Having said that a drunk is a very easy opponent to deal with, compared to a sober assailant who has had some fighting training. Fortunately for the bouncers, trained fighters esp martial artists don't need to make a scene at the door to prove themselves or show off how good they are. They are much more prudent and civilized for that, or else the bouncers would have a really bad night at the emergency ward.
It is absolutely ridiculous for a doorman to deliver any type of pre-emptive strike, this is more of a fantasy. You'll lose your job and likely end up either in handcuffs or with a lawsuit for any number of reasons. Unless you have a reason to believe there is imminent danger to people or yourself the job is to diffuse the situation and throwing the first punch is almost the worst thing you could do. Obviously once there is an altercation throwing punches is acceptable but should never be encouraged. And this guy is says he "mucks up his own body mechanics so he doesn't as hard" - something you'll never hear any professional fighter say. He is right about training to aim higher than you think and punching through the target, but that's neither here nor there. I don't know this guy but I can speak from some experience, if you're a doorman or bouncer your life will be a lot easier and you'll have far more success by being nice to people and trying to be polite. If you have to get physical I always had the best success quickly and firmly angling for a half-nelson or full-nelson, always looking to secure the neck. Put them to sleep for a few seconds, no harm done.
Interesting video, the problem with this is if the counter party is switched on with a wide high guard, in all likelihood you’ll end up hitting their guard so you better train for escalation because throwing a punch and not stopping them is a clear indicator that the fight is on.
With your calm demeanor, it is hard to imagine your presence alone wouldn’t des calte a volatile situation. God help the person who pushes you too far 🙏🏼
If you're a working bouncer in this day and age it's a red flag if someone is teaching you striking as a normal part of the gig. Everywhere I worked, if you got caught on the CCTV throwing kicks or punches, you were out of a job and lucky if you avoid assault charges - judges consider that fighting and strikes as designed to injure or incapacitate rather than the job of a bouncer which is to control and restrain. You're not there to fight people, you're there to get them safely under control and out of the venue with minimal injury to all parties and bystanders - and you're not going to achieve that via an impromptu bareknuckle boxing match. In the 80's it was a different story, but these days it doesn't fly.
Seems like his technique is designed for an surprise attack. Two men face to face, and bam, you level the other man, not giving him a chance to get his hands up.
Most people that knows how to punch would not swing anyway as can be seen coming a mile away, also a palm strike behind the ear does the job or a quick dig in the liver stops them in their track
I witnessed two doormen get battered leaving their door to split up a fight much further on down the road. Turns out the people fighting were all best mates having a falling out and they turned on the doormen immediately when they intervened.
@@paulinthailand I used to be a cctv operator. Amount of times I've seen doormen make the mistake of leaving their doors to assist and get assaulted is unbelievable. Some people know when security are vulnerable and away from colleagues so will take full advantage.
I don't think 'Doormen' today would think of hitting you like that!!!....bloke goes down, hits his head on the concrete floor, that's the end of that!!!!....Doorman, now, rightly, doing a stretch in HMP, rightly so!!!...
This guy is a one hit puncher with no technique, he even needs to think about it before punching the focus pad. Im a kickboxer/martial artist with many years of technical boxing
I find the whole idea of a pre-emptive as the first resort, very disturbing. The risk of inflicting brain damage with that sucker punch, is very real. It was previously my understanding that doormen, aka bouncers, could handle themselves if someone else started something. The idea here, that a doorman should become the attacker, does not seem right and might be difficult to defend in court, if the punter gets seriously hurt or killed.
But as soon as he steps I would step in to him with chest then put the head in his face better cance of dropping him or to grapple if I did not wont to fight, doing a few lesson in judo and bjj take the wait of it and take it to the ground, whear you can start to dominate, but in all fairness youd have about 3 other doorman punching and kicking you as soon as he threw that punch so best to hold on and uses your pockets... x
This is BS You sucker punch the wrong person anymore you going to end up on a gurney. I know gang members and believe me they do not respect life and they are not going to let it go. If a place is that rough pay a Officer to stay on premises and door man just call him with an issue. Tough guy antics is just that, tough guy antics. On top of that, you sucker punch some drunk with all the video and they fall and die, you going to prison for man slaughter. All for playing tough guy.
womatelevision i cannot judge based on his past experience, but from what i can see in this video is what you would learn in the first 6 months of boxing
That's the point; even after 27 years he still relies on the basics and uses them effectively. He has been there and done it, he knows what works and that is what makes it a masterclass.
then shouldn't the fundamentals be just that, the fundamentals. And have the masterclass be something extra? If you can call this a masterclass then you might as well call all beginner boxing classes masterclass
This is not a beginners boxing class. THey're all experienced doormen. They're all learning from a v experienced head doorman. It works for him and he's showing them. Enough said.
Known Dennis for years and trained with him for a while. Top guy. Very intelligent, spiritual and anti-bullying. Having read some of the comments below I can say he was very varied in his techniques be them kicks, slaps or elbows. What you see here is just one example of a technique that could be used if the right circumstances presented. He understood and taught the importance of conflict resolution or diffusion but, as many commentators here will know, that is often interpreted by drugged and drunk revellers as weakness. They then up their game! I would encourage you to find more of his stuff. He was definitely the real deal in his era and was revered by all the martial artists, boxers and street fighters in a fairly tough area. Most importantly he was a decent guy and stuck up for the weak or vulnerable.
Never underestimate anyone. You should also never overestimate your power against them from past altercations. Never underestimate their pain threshold and assume they lack anysort of skill. Never let someone hostile get within an arm and a halfs reach
I learnt this at a very early age, I was vengeful and humbled, great advice..
very good advise.. been caught a few times... lesson learnt
People will see this and criticize his no guard, technique or wide punches. He is not training for a mma/boxing bout, but for a pre emptive strike one shot knockout, in a street context this is spot on!!!
Spot on
peolple will see this and notice hes a scam artist. he scammed all those pussies sitting there, they think theyll be badasses after this "seminar"
@@hugewins9365 wrong. He's an amazing martial artist.
True
You mean beating up drunk people, it aint difficult when you are stone sober 😆
Slaps and other open hand strikes are great.
For me the best doormen are the ones that can use speech to defuse a situation rather than violence! In the past, before I got to old I occasionally worked the doors and if ever someone approached me obviously looking for a fight they mostly told me how hard they were and how they were going to beat me up and instead of escalating the situation I would agree with them and tell them that they probably could beat me up but I'd rather they didn't and could I buy them a pint a bit later and they are so surprised that I'm agreeing with them we end up having a good chat and they walk away as good as gold! No violence.... No ambulance and no police!!!! The best doormen are the ones that never need to fight!!! some people forget that their job is to avoid violence and it should only ever be used in self defence and when all other options have been tried first!
Spot on Gary. Your first line of defence is your brain & mouth. Being able to look after yourself is secondary. Admitting you mangled a guys face is nothing to brag about.
Working the door, I fortunately didn't have to use force much. I found when I did just throwing my mass (body) into the guy worked wonders. It is low-skill technique but it works. I know what he means by "I know it just works." What works, works.
How much do you weigh, if you don't mind me asking?.........Ta............
@@f.dmcintyre4666 205.
As a 25+year professional bouncer. I know better than most that there are times when a doorman has to punch. But this guy is trying to teach people to throw PRE-EMPTIVE punches. There should NEVER be a situation where a doorman needs to do that. If you are feeling threatened you can restrain or take the guy to the ground. But you never throw the first punch. This is the reason we have a bad name. Don't get me wrong. I have worked in some real trouble spots. And we have had to let the locals know who was in charge. But this is not how it is done. I get up at 3.30 four days a week so i can train MMA from 4-6am. Just so I can do the job properly. Then some guy thinks he can show you how to do it in a 5min video on how to throw a sucker punch.
I agree with your comment however I have only worked a fraction of the time you have over the past 6 years in and around London, all of which have been troublesome doors (which to be fair every door is or we wouldn't be there, some worse than others). It seems the guy in the video is encouraging pre-emptive strikes which are appropriate 1% of the time and nowadays it's the last action you want to take as you're more than likely to end up down the Nick. Even over the past few years I have noticed a huge change and rapid increase in weapons being carried by punters, knives being the most common and have come up against it countless times. This video doesn't take into account the situation, nor does it give you any context in which a strike like this would be appropriate. When he walks into the 'pre-emptive strike' he is wide open from either side as the fella he's about to clobber won't be alone and his intent on his approach was clear and easily identifiable by any accompanying party. Walking into a situation like this will end in either one of two ways; the lemon that gets hit will be with a group who will most likely have half a kilo of dust up their hooter and will explode into a brawl, or the doorman will seriously injure the Customer ending in a night in the Cells and repercussions thereafter. I would only ever use a heavy pre-emptive strike like this if there was a clear threat to my team or my own safety or there was a threat of serious harm towards another Customer or member of the public. You have to whey every possible factor and contributing situational circumstance up before deciding to do something like this nowadays. It's never as simple as it's glorified to be in videos like this. One wrong move when intervening in confrontation can cost lives, FACT!
Emperor Barbers well said mate, vigilance is top draw 👏🏻
I’d rather be judged by 12 then carried by 6
@@emperorbarbers3029 People like Dennis Jones, Peter Consterdine, and Geoff Thompson were from the 80s, 90s, and 00s era of violence in the UK.
Like you are pointing out, how violence is carried out has changed (e.g. Weapons, and multiple attackers being far more common, it seems). I remember a self protection instructor pointing out that a lot the 'guy standing in front of you screaming their head off in rage' that Geoff And Peter talked about is less common, he said that now it's more common for people to be more subtle, non verbal, and taunting when it comes to their 'pre-fight' ritual. What do you think of that observation?
Also now MMA and boxing training, along Weight Lifting have become mainstream and is available in practically in every city. A lot of young men have done some form of physical training. So it seems like Dennis', Peter's and Geoff approach seems to need modifying, to 2020 culture.
@@nopillpill Hi there,
I'm not expert on this subject but I have read a couple of Geoff Thompson's books and he says that when you see a weapon the best thing you can do is run. Trying to be a hero against a knife could mean you end up in hospital or worse (and that's if you even see it).
I take your point that the world has changed since his heyday though (as a poster above said, the much wider prevalence of street drugs like cocaine is one of the ways it's changed).
Informative video............Bless...........
That step after the punch is called the Fitzsimons shift, you switch stances and shift your weight forward, stepping forward as you punch..from orthodox to southpaw and back
Legend! Thankyou for sharing the knowledge brother.
Max respect.🙏
Punching beyond your target is a common thing people will say in boxing, to increase the force behind the punch. The offside to this is that it throws you off balance - especially if you miss. 'Falling in' could be a good thing if you connect, leaves you open if you don't.
I do like his elbow strikes, a lot can be said for Muai Thai type boxing. And he definitely has some knowledge of what to expect in a street fight.
But personally speaking, not a fan of 'falling into' things. Fall in then fall back into guard or a second counter.
Keeping balance is integral to what often happens in a altercation which is someone will duck a or take a punch then go for a full mount (or at least push/tackle). So you get grabbed in a rugby tackle type offense in an effort to get you off balance and on the ground.
If your balance and centre of gravity is on point then the person doing this to you will either end up on the ground as you deflect or take a blow be it a fist/elbow/knee or whatever you choose. But you won't get taken down, unless of course ground game is your forte in which case you will take someone to the ground when you want to, not the reverse.
Still I like this guys technique for the most of it. I guess each to their own depending on what your strengths are.
Thanks for uploading. See bits of Dennis Jones stuff, self defence simplified.
One of my favorite videos.
Glad you enjoyed it
@@worldofmartialartstelevision Is there more footage you guys can release of him? Other than the ones you already have?
@@williamsmith8790 That's all for now.
@@worldofmartialartstelevision Where do you sell his instructionals
@@williamsmith8790 We used to sell a DVD but that sold out.
Thanks for this video. Learned a lot. Nicely broken down and easy to remember. I will definitely use it if I need to. gonna subscribe now.
This guy hasn’t a clue he’s talking complete nonsense
Straight rights are more effective than hooks in my experience. Most people DO NOT KNOW HOW TO FIGHT. So they flayling punch, wild hooks and usually as fast as they can. Straight right to the chin followed by hard left uppercut.....good night. This is the option only when you cannot shoulder touch, rotate and choke out. Last report is to punch
Vicious power!
If you read the interview with Dennis where he talks about seeing a patron hit a guy with a brick then he explains how that experience allowed him to see the effectiveness of a one shot KO. This , from memory, lead him to train to develop this kind of power and use it in the appropriate circumstance. In my opinion no one can judge another person for pre emltive striking in self defense unless they stood in their shoes.
Excellent advice
Good wisdom. It always baffled me to see my friends install a punch bag where the ostensible point of impact is lower than their jaw-line, in crouched stance...it's like, assume the guy is taller than you man!
As a long term Doorman, I always found punching always works, but better than? Restraint, keeps you out of ag with the ol bill and your manager.
Very minimal and simplistic, not flashy or fancy but effective. This is Dennis Jones own personal approach to "pre emptive" striking for self preservation, might not win him a cage fight but would be effective in a "real fight".
Only the English would have a pint of beer at a self defence lesson…
this man is demonstrating how to deliver power in a preemptive strike. He utilizes body mechanics well. I like that he moves past the target and changes location of where he is standing. Falling forward and moving off to an angle is smart. It is hard to use legs and hips when your in an interview stance. Getting into a boxing stance is dumb and gives away the element of surprise. The comments about sucker punching is amusing. In the usa there seems to be different definitions of sucker punch also. I think he was demonstrating technique for that one critical moment.......not for every encounter with an asshole.
If you follow this guy's teachings you will definately end up locked up
I have ended and won many fights just with my vocals and intent. Had a group of 4 teenagers be passive aggressive with me as I was waiting for the bus. "Hello sir, can we have some money and a cigarette?" ... but I sensed not humour nor good vibes
I instantly stamped my foot on the floor, did an exaggerated over the top neck warm up and the classic knuckle crack, and then a loud, "WHO THE FUCK IS READY TO FUCKING DIE FIRST!!!" A loud Karate shout and stance.
They ran off. No conflict no touch. The trick is to end fights before they erupt. I was actually prepared to fight but never happened thank goodness for me.
brothajack1993 none of this happened
@@1jakedizzle Was going to say , file under > “things that never happened” . Did give me a good chuckle though 😆
I really really don't agree with this.
As a door man myself. Knowing that there are cameras on me at all times.
Door men/wimen always use open handed strikes. This prevents serious damage at point of contact. I really agree with the technique of verbal discipline and solution. Also cover yourself by having a body cam on yourself or colleague from start of situation to get full story documented. Not just what passers by will tape on phone. " 3 to 4 guys holding a man on ground and it looks all out of context. Not showing the man in question looks his shit 10 minute before hand.
Totally agree, a strike like that, shattered hand, game over
Exactly. You want 1-3 punches to level your opponent. Never mind a guard
Hello, very often, details may make a difference. In the street, everybody wants to finish an attacker off as quickly as possible, or just to startle someone, to mess sb up. He seems to be an experienced man so, I guess, it's worth taking his tips into consideration.
Oh my god I can't believe I just watched this video
The fall in technique is good for a good follow through punch, if you have the speed,bad if its someone bigger and stronger and they get hold of you though. Dustin Poirier is a good example of this technique.
Gary Spiers was a hard nut he knew how to street fight
its whats called preemptive- and i would say that if the swing connects the attacker will be destroyed- excellent information-as for its being a master class- of course it is-keep it simple and deadly--Ari of executive self defense
What he is describing sounds similar to a Dempsey drop step, but off the back leg.
Yes, really impressed by this guy. What he doesn't tell those lounging and having their beer attendants is that on contact with a target's bony part they are going to break their hands and all they've got UNLESS they have done some serious hand conditioning in the past which none of them appear to have. Bouncers make themselves look super fighting machines knocking people down by the dozens when in reality all they are knocking down are dazed people drunk or high on drugs hardly capable to even stand on their own feet.
Yes but high or dazed can still be super dangerous..........DeEsc works best but sometimes there is no option..............Bless...........
like the other reply i would have to emphasise drunks and drugged up assailants can be extremely unpredictable and very dangerous. so your comment downplays the reality. i worked the door 18 years back and was always very cautious of those under the influence because they can do anything. they are not an easy problem.
@@adamfreeman2348 Nobody says that working the door is a walk in the park. A doorman has to be on high alert all the time. Having said that a drunk is a very easy opponent to deal with, compared to a sober assailant who has had some fighting training. Fortunately for the bouncers, trained fighters esp martial artists don't need to make a scene at the door to prove themselves or show off how good they are. They are much more prudent and civilized for that, or else the bouncers would have a really bad night at the emergency ward.
It is absolutely ridiculous for a doorman to deliver any type of pre-emptive strike, this is more of a fantasy. You'll lose your job and likely end up either in handcuffs or with a lawsuit for any number of reasons. Unless you have a reason to believe there is imminent danger to people or yourself the job is to diffuse the situation and throwing the first punch is almost the worst thing you could do. Obviously once there is an altercation throwing punches is acceptable but should never be encouraged. And this guy is says he "mucks up his own body mechanics so he doesn't as hard" - something you'll never hear any professional fighter say. He is right about training to aim higher than you think and punching through the target, but that's neither here nor there.
I don't know this guy but I can speak from some experience, if you're a doorman or bouncer your life will be a lot easier and you'll have far more success by being nice to people and trying to be polite. If you have to get physical I always had the best success quickly and firmly angling for a half-nelson or full-nelson, always looking to secure the neck. Put them to sleep for a few seconds, no harm done.
He's got a dig on him
Better to slap than punch can still as much damage and less likely to break bones in your hands
Number one: Be sober.
Interesting video, the problem with this is if the counter party is switched on with a wide high guard, in all likelihood you’ll end up hitting their guard so you better train for escalation because throwing a punch and not stopping them is a clear indicator that the fight is on.
lol hit the punter and get criminally charged, loose your job and get sued. Good advice
gary spiers mario karate legend was doing this before anyone
a maori ,not a mario
With your calm demeanor, it is hard to imagine your presence alone wouldn’t des calte a volatile situation.
God help the person who pushes you too far 🙏🏼
I like this Guy , can anyone tell me his name
If you're a working bouncer in this day and age it's a red flag if someone is teaching you striking as a normal part of the gig. Everywhere I worked, if you got caught on the CCTV throwing kicks or punches, you were out of a job and lucky if you avoid assault charges - judges consider that fighting and strikes as designed to injure or incapacitate rather than the job of a bouncer which is to control and restrain. You're not there to fight people, you're there to get them safely under control and out of the venue with minimal injury to all parties and bystanders - and you're not going to achieve that via an impromptu bareknuckle boxing match. In the 80's it was a different story, but these days it doesn't fly.
Seems like his technique is designed for an surprise attack. Two men face to face, and bam, you level the other man, not giving him a chance to get his hands up.
From memory, Dennis' son is sitting next to the asian bloke.
Most people that knows how to punch would not swing anyway as can be seen coming a mile away, also a palm strike behind the ear does the job or a quick dig in the liver stops them in their track
Nightclub security shouldn't get involved in street fights. Self-defense is a different story
I witnessed two doormen get battered leaving their door to split up a fight much further on down the road. Turns out the people fighting were all best mates having a falling out and they turned on the doormen immediately when they intervened.
@@justtango4741 i split up a fight once and they both turned on me kicking my head into the floor.
@@paulinthailand I used to be a cctv operator. Amount of times I've seen doormen make the mistake of leaving their doors to assist and get assaulted is unbelievable. Some people know when security are vulnerable and away from colleagues so will take full advantage.
Why would you hit someone this hard?
I don't think 'Doormen' today would think of hitting you like that!!!....bloke goes down, hits his head on the concrete floor, that's the end of that!!!!....Doorman, now, rightly, doing a stretch in HMP, rightly so!!!...
If you get chabce go on one if his seninars he js a greatcbkoke 8
This guy is a one hit puncher with no technique, he even needs to think about it before punching the focus pad. Im a kickboxer/martial artist with many years of technical boxing
but have you ever had a real fight? with no referee? the possibility of death?.... you sound idiotic mate
If it lands first on target with power,the untrained man wil be out cold,this is not sport fighting which is totally different.
I find the whole idea of a pre-emptive as the first resort, very disturbing. The risk of inflicting brain damage with that sucker punch, is very real.
It was previously my understanding that doormen, aka bouncers, could handle themselves if someone else started something. The idea here, that a doorman should become the attacker, does not seem right and might be difficult to defend in court, if the punter gets seriously hurt or killed.
I Hired the Best Cooler in the Business.What he says Goes
That drop stop is how Jack Dempsey got his power. Bruce Lee adapted that into his lead right straight
But as soon as he steps I would step in to him with chest then put the head in his face better cance of dropping him or to grapple if I did not wont to fight, doing a few lesson in judo and bjj take the wait of it and take it to the ground, whear you can start to dominate, but in all fairness youd have about 3 other doorman punching and kicking you as soon as he threw that punch so best to hold on and uses your pockets... x
Thai boxing: fought on a forwards and backwards plain? Bollocks mate!
Those punches look like taken liberty shot, walking out of the toliets, at the boozer...
This is BS
You sucker punch the wrong person anymore you going to end up on a gurney.
I know gang members and believe me they do not respect life and they are not going to let it go.
If a place is that rough pay a Officer to stay on premises and door man just call him with an issue.
Tough guy antics is just that, tough guy antics.
On top of that, you sucker punch some drunk with all the video and they fall and die, you going to prison for man slaughter.
All for playing tough guy.
His angles seem too wide. EZ to block.
You cannot block a pre emptive strike from arms length unless your hands are already up,thats why ita a sucker punch,disguised with a verbal cue.
More bullshit...you can see his swinging punches a mile off.
how is this a master class? all this is, is basic boxing...
He is an expert of 27 years, so learn what you can.
womatelevision i cannot judge based on his past experience, but from what i can see in this video is what you would learn in the first 6 months of boxing
That's the point; even after 27 years he still relies on the basics and uses them effectively. He has been there and done it, he knows what works and that is what makes it a masterclass.
then shouldn't the fundamentals be just that, the fundamentals. And have the masterclass be something extra? If you can call this a masterclass then you might as well call all beginner boxing classes masterclass
This is not a beginners boxing class. THey're all experienced doormen. They're all learning from a v experienced head doorman. It works for him and he's showing them. Enough said.
Doorsuperviser are not allowed to Puch any one only allowed to use minimum amount of force .not fight person .
Sausage
Doormen are not
Boring, boring boring 😴😴😴😴
Is he a fake martial artist
He hits lije a traib hes tgexreal deal
Hes a high grade in katate a lifetime practitioner with decades of street violence experience
@@scarred10karate wow his punching techniques is awful he’s just another fake martial artist
@@philiplewis7572 he isnt using karate onviously,its just a boxers overhand punch
Aggressive nonsense
Must be a terrible Muay Thai or Kickboxing fighter if only moves forward and back 😂
I'm guessing the socket was all healed and now pinned? Lol