Divine Men in Antiquity
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Jesus of Nazareth was hardly the only person in the ancient world who was said to be son of God (or a god), to perform miracles, and to have ascended into heaven. John Hamer of Toronto Centre Place will review the lives figures including Apollonius of Tyana, Alexander of Abonoteichus, Pythagoras, and others and consider the implications for how the earliest Christians may have understood Jesus as divine.
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Thank you so very much for taking the time to prepare and present these lectures.
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Love John Hamer's videos.
It's like if I sent a copy of myself to read a thousand books and reason through all the nagging questions and filter it back at me in 90 minutes. This and History with Cy are my top 2 you tube favorites.
Omg I just left a comment on cys newest video a few hours ago. Now I'm here and I see this comment. Is this a sign?? 😂
Again, a briliant dissertation. Clear, concise and structured. Thank you John. You are giving so much to us. Again God Bless You.
@@ghtbbfarts is a part of a hole. Wholey holes are not Holy. Opinions and farts.odious .
Accept all as opinion without
Odious is folly.,.
It is a wise man who rules the stars and a fool who is ruled by them
Fantastic lectures- thank you
John, You are an amazing historian in that you are such a good story teller. You make ancient history feel like it was just yesterday. Which leads me to wonder how it is you are still a believer? History and faith seem to be in such contradiction I don’t know how you,reconcile the two. Next to the hiddenness of God it was history that made it impossible,for me to continue to be a believer. How do you do it? (Not sarcastically asking but in honest curiosity.) Cognitive dissonance just wouldn’t allow me to do what you seem to manage with little conflict.
This is my favorite youtube channel. Brings me back to my undergad days at UBC.
excellent, thank you
I've been really enjoying these lectures for the past several years but why oh why is it so hard to search for them on RUclips? When I go on the Centre Place page, under Videos, I only see choir parts. Then the Centre Place Lectures playlist isn't sorted chronologically, so I can't use it to to find the latest lecture. I'm subscribed, so new lectures appear in my feed from time to time, but there's no way for me to find any videos I might have missed.
Look under live rather than videos.
@@angelawossnameThanks! That helps!
@cariboubearmalachy1174 no dramas, I still forget to search under "live" sometimes. It took me ages to figure out. You should also be able to see upcoming lectures under "live" and turn on notifications for them.
It sounds like Mathew is fake good news.
Great context! I'm going to listen once more so I don't miss one thing.
I find myself always listening more than one time to these lectures. Some even up to three or more times. Once looking at the slides, the other times with my headphones on and my phone in my pocket as I do my chores or engage in my hobby of drawing.
Hit that like button, friends
Love the lectures
Please do a history of Jewish participation in ancient Egypt.
Great idea. A lecture on how each tradition impacted each other would be interesting.
Short lecture. They didn't do anything in ancient Egypt.
Thanks!
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“Pumpkinification” 😂
Does it relate to Californication?
did I do something wrong? It's out of synch for me. Great lecture!
Nah its just a basement dweller that doesn't understand human history and wants to sound smart.
Just start the lecture over again when that happens and scroll to about where you left off
you have the best (most scholarly) lectures on the internet. i'm talking A augmented across the board, with the occasional typo. that said, the critical analyses seem to stop short when it comes to that idea that the first amendment is somehow codified in Christianity and that whatever political ideologies beg recognition in US politics somehow is miscible with any Christian doctrine of celibacy, modesty, and temperance. if the doctrine requires curtains and whispering and hushing, guarded by pride, it's not a parable we heard from Christ nor has any sect since that time holding such things divination permitted to pass on their dismal lineage. you're right that 1 Tim's rejection of women leadership undermines, further, its disingenuous claims of authentic expression of Christian doctrine. 2 Tim 2:15 commends you and banishes any further shaming. the most Christian line in Shakespeare is “get thee to a nunnery!” that’s a call for celibacy rather than political entanglements. even Polonius’s inept counsel had admitted that much. there is no first amendment on this planet if a bunch of disparate letters can be put together and said to represent the teachings of Christ. if we’re gonna help anyone get closer to God or suggest anything about godliness, we ought to help them and not resort to any solutions short of the soundest, most-authentic doctrines.
Fascinating talk,was St Mark originally a scribe employed by the illiterate St Peter?
2nd video where the audio and video is way out of sync. Audio kicks in 16 seconds after video.
It's a problem with RUclips's process of re-encoding videos, I think. The last video fixed itself after a few days.
How would one define god in a sentence?
Can you define things like music, art, love, beauty, perfection, goodness, among others, in one sentence?
I can do it in one word. Fake.
@@centre-placeWittgenstein made it pretty clear that’s impossible. As all those words mean different things depending on the context we are using them in. Words rarely have just one use. Love your lectures 😊
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A million ways to say its a load of crap
I don’t think most people listen to these to find out, simplistically, whether this or that thing is true or not. I haven’t been a believer for over thirty years, but still enjoy the scholarship involved in trying to understanding these ancient texts-that continue to influence our Western way of thinking.
If you don't have a historical Jesus and what he has done is the sine qua non of Christianity and devoid of that you have squat- no salvation and no hope! His life IS a historical claim and not merely theological
Maybe it’s not all about the individual human living forever. Maybe it’s about us loving ourselves as a species so the species can go on forever..
He drags his talk on and on, speaking very, very slowly.
One of your most ambitious lectures. Thank you pastor John
Another Awesome Presentation !!! Thank You
I don't think I ever became Enamoured with Jesus the Christ because of his MIRACLES.
The 1st Time I heard Sermon on the Mount I asked - Who is that man ???
I sincerely believe his Disciples were All DOUBTING THOMASes.
Philip asks Show us the Father ...
For some Unknown Reason they had their Doubts.
Amazingly PAUL was the One with No Doubts lol
My Favorite Gospel is JOHN. Seems more down to earth or forthright or understandable. John seems to have had a Personal Relation with Jesus.
Thanks Again
I was listening to whoever the mad pastor who wrote the Passion Translation of the Bible. And he completely messes up a Star Wars reference during a sermon.
This gentleman on the other hand uses Grogu as an eloquent way to illustrate his point.
These are the scholars you are looking for 🫳