Velotric Summit 1 Ebike E-mtb MODS and UPGRADES!!!!

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @BounyavethInsixiengmayll
    @BounyavethInsixiengmayll 22 дня назад +1

    That bike is absolutely awesome!

  • @MetalFreaken007
    @MetalFreaken007 6 месяцев назад +5

    what a beautiful bike and even more after your mods!! thanks for sharing

  • @0321ReconMan
    @0321ReconMan 6 месяцев назад +3

    Awesome video gonna definitely be using it to replace my group set!

  • @Roland-Lewis
    @Roland-Lewis 3 месяца назад +4

    I love my Summit, and I'm so glad I found your channel! Could you kindly give some more details about the Fox shock? I'm a bit of a MTB noob, and I'm having a hard time finding the specific shock on eBay. It seems there are several that are 36 27.5. Thank you again!

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  3 месяца назад +1

      Hi Roland, congrats on the new bike, they are a lot of fun! With this bike you'll probably want a Fox 34 or 36 (refers to the fork tube diameter in mm;s), either will work nicely for you. Stick with one for a 27.5 / 29 inch wheel and make sure the steering stem is the same length or longer as what I used (I forget what I say in the video and don't want to tell you the wrong length). Definitelt the best bang for the buck upgrade on the bike! Cheers

    • @miller1
      @miller1 2 месяца назад +2

      @@lifebehindbarz60 I think what he might be asking is what series (Factory, Performance, Rhythm, etc.) Fox Shock did you end up getting.

  • @InfiniteMishaps
    @InfiniteMishaps 3 месяца назад +4

    If this bike came with these parts stock. It would be 1000% better. I hope Velotric is watching this and taking notes.
    Gary Fisher in the background so you know he’s legit. 😊

  • @Scott_Vicious
    @Scott_Vicious 4 месяца назад +2

    Can you tell me the model of that fork? I'm trying to find it on Fox's site but the steerer tube lengths seem different. Thanks!

  • @jgarma
    @jgarma 2 месяца назад +2

    Like your upgrades! You total cost is under what the Summit 1 now costs at $1,999, I think due to the new tariff. So, you've got significantly better bike than the stock for less $.

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  2 месяца назад

      Absolutely, the price went up right after I bought the bike. Four people that I know of were able to use the discount code that I provided and got the same deal I did. At 2k I'd think twice about this purchase.... there are many much more powerful hub drive bikes out there in that price range. Cheers

    • @jgarma
      @jgarma 2 месяца назад +1

      @@lifebehindbarz60 True, more powerful hub drive ebikes are available, but the Summit checks a lot of boxes. For me, there's no perfect ebike in the $2K range.

  • @Dolphinister
    @Dolphinister 3 месяца назад +3

    Do you think a Fox 36 steer tube length of 188mm will work on the Summit? Great video, thank you!

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  3 месяца назад +1

      Hello, I believe that is a bit too short to run even with no spacers. I'd suggest looking for a fork with an 8 inch steerer so you can use a spacer or two. Cheers

    • @SeattleBMXer
      @SeattleBMXer 11 дней назад

      If you can't find the info online you can measure yours... 188mm is 7.4 and the one he used was 7.5. 👍

  • @The-skillschool
    @The-skillschool 6 месяцев назад +3

    Great video, Hi from the UK.

  • @romeozulu4424
    @romeozulu4424 6 месяцев назад +3

    Can’t wait to see how the upgrades work esp climbing steep trails

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  6 месяцев назад +2

      Hello, video is up now, the bike did great! Cheers

  • @davidiliyn
    @davidiliyn 6 месяцев назад +3

    Can you link the bars and stem? I hate the stance on my summit 1. Hurts my wrists, I really want it to be towed in more toward me! Thanks for the video!!

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  6 месяцев назад +1

      Hi David, yes all modern mtb's seem to have that short / low rise stem / bar combo! In my opinion it's why you see endless over-the-bars crash videos on RUclips! I have added the Amazon part descriptions to my video description, just copy and paste to Amazon and it should all come up for you. Cheers

    • @davidiliyn
      @davidiliyn 6 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks man! Also have you had any issues with the Apple find my on the summit 1? I can get it linked up fine and see it on my iPhone. But after a day or so it won’t be able to find it. Even if I’m on the bike. Have to reset and do it all over again, and then eventually it won’t work again. Lame

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  6 месяцев назад

      @@davidiliyn Hi David, you're welcome. Honestly I haven't even tried the find my feature. If I was riding down in Denver where bikes get stolen all the time I'd use it, but where I live in the mountains my phone doesn't even work half the time so things like that aren't really useful to me. I'd check with Velotric customer service and see if it is just something easy like a setting causing it to do that. Cheers

    • @mikewmorris
      @mikewmorris 5 месяцев назад

      @@davidiliyn I'm having the exact same trouble. After resetting and reconnecting, the bike starts beeping when riding and disconnects. The only way to fix it is to reset and reconnect Find My. I was hoping I had a defective unit, but it could be a bigger problem if others are having the same issue. I've got an open ticket with support right now.

    • @DeMysticLyon
      @DeMysticLyon 4 месяца назад

      @@mikewmorrisdid support ever come through? I’m looking to buy this bike, and Find My is a big selling point

  • @richarde1355
    @richarde1355 6 месяцев назад +3

    Some super useful tips, like marking the master link with paint.
    You mention you wrap “all the bikes” with the neoprene wrap. Do you use that wrap system on standard pedal only bikes? I am considering something like Ride Wrap to protect my mountain bike frame, and this neoprene cover could be an easy peasy option.

  • @ts3871
    @ts3871 Месяц назад +1

    Since you've had it apart. Can you tell me how many pins the wires from the brake levers are, and what color the plugs are?
    My guess would be yellow, 3-pin.
    I'm trying to find extensions to lengthen them a little so I can install taller handlebars. Thanks! Your video is very helpful!

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  Месяц назад +2

      Hello, there is a red 2 pin connector to each brake and a green 5 pin connector to the bar control switches. Cheers

  • @MSITHero
    @MSITHero 4 месяца назад +1

    What are the details on the fork you got off ebay?

  • @tonygiancoli9626
    @tonygiancoli9626 6 месяцев назад +3

    Don't frag me for this, but what about adding a suspension seat post to give a little more suspension in the rear?

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  6 месяцев назад +3

      Hi Tony, it's a legit question. I originally bought a suspension seat post to put on it, but after a few rides I decided it didn't need it. The bike rides very well without it and I don't get an objectionable amount of vibration and shock out of the back of the bike. I expected it to be a much rougher ride than it is. Cheers

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  5 месяцев назад +2

      @@80sDudes I see the Velotric website sells a suspension post for this bike. It will need to be of the design that allows the rear light wiring to run through it. Cheers

    • @Roland-Lewis
      @Roland-Lewis 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@lifebehindbarz60Velotric actually has a RUclips video talking about how to reroute the rear brake light cable to be outside.

  • @xXdonjulio
    @xXdonjulio 2 месяца назад +1

    @lifebehindbarz60 Do you know what the reach is on the factory bar clamp? I heard you say the new one had a 70mm reach. I want to move my bars up but not any more forward. Currently looking at taller bars and also considering a solid clap riser if the bars aren’t enough and to avoid beach cruiser looking bars. Thanks in advance if you get around to answering this.

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  2 месяца назад

      Hello, yes the stock stem has a 50mm reach and zero rise. Cheers

  • @IHatePikeys
    @IHatePikeys 6 месяцев назад +3

    what travel is the Fox 36 fork? thanks

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  6 месяцев назад +2

      Hello, the fork travel on this Fox is 140mm. Cheers

  • @rickysolis8291
    @rickysolis8291 6 месяцев назад +4

    Hey, do you have links for your parts? Like where can I buy the same battery cover, chain stay cover, and stem? Other parts too. Thanks, look forward to your upcoming videos on your summit.

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  6 месяцев назад +3

      Hi Ricky, I will go back to the video and add that info into the description later this week. Cheers

    • @Blackwolffe097
      @Blackwolffe097 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@lifebehindbarz60
      I don't see the links yet 😔

    • @stevenjennings233
      @stevenjennings233 6 месяцев назад +2

      Can you add the links to the upgrades, please, or at least list exactly what to order as I'll probably do all the upgradesothan than forks and handle bars, thanks!

    • @davidiliyn
      @davidiliyn 6 месяцев назад +2

      I’m waiting as well

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  6 месяцев назад

      @@Blackwolffe097 Hello, please check the video description for an Amazon parts list. Cheers

  • @SeattleBMXer
    @SeattleBMXer 11 дней назад +1

    How did you like your new granny gears? Still working out the bugs?
    Thanks🖖🖖

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  10 дней назад

      Definitely like the gearing change, it's a must for around here. I need to do the firmware update on this bike, some say it really helps the power curve. Fun bike though..... cheers

    • @SeattleBMXer
      @SeattleBMXer 10 дней назад

      @lifebehindbarz60 Yup you follow"Ride with Lantz?" He said it's got much more torque. 💪

  • @iakona23
    @iakona23 6 месяцев назад +5

    How did you get the bike for $1529? I have seen a $60 off discount code from the $1799 MSRP but that's about it. Also, would you consider making a video where you add a dropper post?

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  6 месяцев назад +1

      Hello, the discount code I used was v12x2f2, give it a try and see if it still works. A few people that follow my videos have been successful with that code and got the bike for the $1529. That said I hear the bike is now retailing for 1999, up a couple hundred since when I bought.
      I will consider a dropper post down the road. I'm not that big of a fan of the droppers because the three I've had seemed to always slip and collapse at the most inopportune time. I'm kinda old school and the just seem a gimmicky to me. Thanks for watching!

    • @iakona23
      @iakona23 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@lifebehindbarz60 thank you.

    • @iakona23
      @iakona23 6 месяцев назад

      @@lifebehindbarz60 you are right. I checked the price of the Summit One earlier this week and it was still $1799. Now it’s $1999. What a bummer!!!

    • @iakona23
      @iakona23 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@lifebehindbarz60 it doesn’t seem to work anymore but thank you very much for replying and for offering the code to try.

    • @scotthines5834
      @scotthines5834 6 месяцев назад

      Great video. Installed a dropper post and replaced the fork with the upgraded SR Suntour Aion 36, 150mm travel. Super plush. Stay away from the Aion 35. $1,529 is an amazing price.

  • @jasonmacko3976
    @jasonmacko3976 4 месяца назад

    Hello, thanks for the great video! Can you provide the fork description with its measurements?

  • @EdNeuenschwander
    @EdNeuenschwander 6 месяцев назад +2

    another great video! On the stem upgrade.... model and model number? And were you able to use the top plate that has the light attachment point? Thanks!

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  6 месяцев назад

      Hi Ed, thank you! I used the Wake stem (upc ‎782429363903 on amazon). It has a 25 degree rise and you have different lengths to choose from. I used the 70mm.
      The clamp cap is unfortunately not interchangeable due to different bolt spacing, but I do plan to drill and tap a small hole in the stem itself (not the cap) to bolt the light to.
      Cheers!

    • @EdNeuenschwander
      @EdNeuenschwander 6 месяцев назад

      @@lifebehindbarz60 Thanks!

  • @richarde1355
    @richarde1355 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks so much for creating and sharing the very detailed video!
    I very much understand the majority of your changes, but the chainring swap has me scratching my head a bit. What benefit do you believe you get with the change?

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  6 месяцев назад

      Hi Richard, I know I only dropped two teeth on the chainring but it did give me a bit more ground clearance, made it so I needed less additional chain to compensate for the larger low gear diameter, dropped some weight over the steel, and looks kinda cool. Cheers

    • @richarde1355
      @richarde1355 6 месяцев назад

      @@lifebehindbarz60I do agree the new chainring is more blingy and looks better. 👍

  • @raiders1221
    @raiders1221 3 месяца назад +1

    Do you like the stock tires if not what would you upgrade to?

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  3 месяца назад

      Hello, I do like the stock tires and will run them until they need to be replaced.

  • @abshassan
    @abshassan 17 дней назад +1

    Nice upgrades, i just dont like the battery cover, it hides the brand and stands out too much, but nice ugrades nonetheless. I was looking at this and the aventon ramblas but i went with the ramblas instead. Either way they are great bikes for their price

  • @ericrobitaille6867
    @ericrobitaille6867 4 месяца назад +1

    By changing the stem, did you sacrifice the headlight?

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  3 месяца назад

      Yes but I have since drilled and tapped a hole for the headlight mount and add the headlight if I'll be out for a late ride. Cheers

  • @tomolryify
    @tomolryify 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the video. Can you provide a link to the upgraded cassette? Also, did you look at installing a dropper seat post?

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  5 месяцев назад +1

      Hi Tom, I have not yet looked into a dropper post, I'll save that for part 2 of the upgrades. Please check out eBay item number:395400920174 for the cassette. Cheers

  • @sunshowerpainting1
    @sunshowerpainting1 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for an informative video. I own two Velotric bikes. A T1ST and a Discover One Plus. Great bikes both. I have to say, the Summit looks heavy. How much does it weigh?

  • @Scotty5311
    @Scotty5311 6 месяцев назад +2

    Awesome video. My bike comes in Monday. Is there a specific part/model number for the shocks?

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  6 месяцев назад +2

      Hello, cool, I hope you used the discount code from my last video (in the comment section) to get the $260 off!
      I believe the fork is the 910-23-449. If you go to ebay you will see a number of these used forks for sale at great prices. Cheers

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  6 месяцев назад

      The easiest way to find the forks on ebay is just to search for the following; 27.5 fox 36 A ton of forks will come up. There are some new take-offs on there right now at great prices ($700 off new prices). Cheers

    • @rccarsrus3825
      @rccarsrus3825 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@lifebehindbarz60so I appreciate you beyond belief but I am a noob slightly and have another question about the rake you said you measured 54mm on stock would I then need a 51mm offset to match correctly I tried understanding the video where you said it fits even with the offset again thank you!

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  6 месяцев назад

      @@rccarsrus3825 No worries RC, the frame designers put a 54? mm offset fork on the bike. The 44mm offset of the Fox in simplified terms means the wheelbase of the bike is now 10mm shorter than stock. That works to tighten up the steering a bit while theoretically making it a little less stable at high speed. Now, off paper and in the real world the handling is essentially the same as stock. The bike handles extremely well in both tight slow areas and at full speed. You and I will never notice any difference in handling (other than the HUGE difference in fork quality) between the 44 and the 54mm forks. Cheers

    • @Scotty5311
      @Scotty5311 6 месяцев назад +1

      Guess I got in under the wire, they've raised the price to $1999

  • @Whoadayson
    @Whoadayson 5 месяцев назад +1

    Glad I found your channel, Im not working on this bike but I am trying to transform an ebike thats less than epic into so.eting capable of not dying me as a emtb!

  • @denniswhite6013
    @denniswhite6013 5 месяцев назад +1

    So I added a stem rise too, problem is they don't have a headlight hole to screw the headlight on. And the catch is if you don't have the headlight on/connected the brake light will only light up if you brake, it won't be lit for evening or night rides. Only having the headlight connected will activate the rear light in any way other than when braking. Does anybody have any workarounds for this???

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  5 месяцев назад

      Hi Dennis, I drilled and tapped a hole in the lower part of the stem so the stock headlight can be mounted. I suspect you can also put a jumper wire on the headlight plug to complete the circuit but I haven't tested that. Cheers

    • @denniswhite6013
      @denniswhite6013 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@lifebehindbarz60 what size drill bit and tap are needed?

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  5 месяцев назад

      @@denniswhite6013 Hello, if you want to use the stock bolt get a 10-32 NF tap and a #21 drill bit. You can buy the two in a package deal on Amazon for around $4. I drilled into the thickest part of the stem on the bottom side (not the cap, didn't want to weaken it). Use a little thread locker like blue locktite and nothing will vibrate loose. Cheers

  • @0321ReconMan
    @0321ReconMan 4 месяца назад +1

    So with the cassette does it have 11 gears now instead of the stock 8? I want to get some lower gears as well i think a 1x11 is necessary for steep climbs with this bike but im concerned about the fitment with the hub motor.

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  4 месяца назад

      You could install an 11 speed cassette but I stuck with the stock 8 so I didn't have to change out the shifter. Cheers

  • @richarde1355
    @richarde1355 6 месяцев назад +1

    Some super useful tips, like marking the master link with paint.
    You mention you wrap “all the bikes” with the neoprene wrap. Do you use that wrap system on standard pedal only bikes? I am considering something like Ride Wrap to protect my mountain bike frame, and this neoprene cover could be an easy peasy option.
    I see a dropper post in your future and possibly brake upgrades…?

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  6 месяцев назад

      Hi Richard, to this point I have only used the neoprene covers to protect the batteries on my ebikes. I have seen some videos where bikepackers have wrapped their frames for protection. It makes a lot of sense and really doesn't add any weight to the bike.
      I'm not a big fan of the dropper posts mostly because I've had them slip and drop on me at the most inopportune moment. Brakes is a definite possibility though, these work well but get smoking hot on big down hills.
      Cheers

    • @richarde1355
      @richarde1355 6 месяцев назад

      @@lifebehindbarz60thanks! Where does one find those neoprene wraps?

    • @richarde1355
      @richarde1355 6 месяцев назад +1

      I’m astounded at the 2.5 pound weight difference between the forks…

  • @wrldtrvlr2227
    @wrldtrvlr2227 5 месяцев назад +1

    How are the breaks? Have you considered replacing them to 4 caliper?

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  5 месяцев назад

      Hello, honestly I have no complaints with the stock brakes. The only thing I have noticed that I haven't liked is that the rotors get smoking hot after a big downhill. Cheers

  • @Larberm
    @Larberm 6 месяцев назад +2

    How did you get the bike for $1,550 was it on sale. ? The bike is not $ 1,990 ugh

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  6 месяцев назад

      Hello, the discount code I used was VI2X2F2, give it a try and see if it works for you too! There have been 2 other guys on my channel who have gotten the bike for 1525 using this code. Cheers

  • @emike09
    @emike09 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great upgrades. What exact cassette did you upgrade to? I really need to replace the stock cassette but not sure what exact model is compatible with my Summit 1.

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  5 месяцев назад

      Hello, yes the mods made the bike way more fun in hilly terrain! Works quite well now. Please check out ebay item number 395400920174, there are several variations but all will work with your Summit. Cheers

    • @emike09
      @emike09 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@lifebehindbarz60 Thanks so much for the reply! Do you feel the 40T is geared low enough for you? I see they have up to 11 speed and 50T model, do you think those would be compatible if I changed the shifter and derailer out as well? Our mountains here in Utah are steep and I can use all the climbing assistance I can get.

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  5 месяцев назад

      @@emike09 Hello, I like the 40t for the climbing around here but I understand exactly what you are saying. You could certainly go to the 11 speed 50t , but as you say you will need to change both the shifter and derailleur. Cheers

  • @rccarsrus3825
    @rccarsrus3825 5 месяцев назад +1

    Does anybody know what the teeth or spline sizing is for the spider on summit 1 I bentvmine in crash

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  5 месяцев назад

      Yea its a 104 bcd , all those specs are listed in the description in this video. Cheers

  • @tomolryify
    @tomolryify 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hi - can you tell me the tool fitting you used for the cassette?

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  5 месяцев назад

      Yes, copy and paste the following to Amazon and you'll see it's available for around 10 dollars.
      Park Tool FR-5.2 Kassettenverriegelungswerkzeug
      Cheers

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  5 месяцев назад

      Just make sure you buy one that has a 12mm hole in it so it fits over the larger ebike axle. Don't buy one with the pin either. Cheers

    • @tomolryify
      @tomolryify 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@lifebehindbarz60 Thanks! Turns out I have that one. :-)

    • @rccarsrus3825
      @rccarsrus3825 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@lifebehindbarz60 do you know the spline size for the spider that holds chainring I bent mine 😢

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  5 месяцев назад

      @@rccarsrus3825 Sorry I do not

  • @victorkan7288
    @victorkan7288 19 дней назад +1

    Would have started with a dropper, but maybe no room because of the throttle.

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  18 дней назад

      There is definitely room on the bars for the lever but I personally don't like droppers.

  • @pjwillsr
    @pjwillsr 3 месяца назад +1

    With the recent tariff, this bike now starts at $1999 before some discounts.

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  3 месяца назад +1

      Right, the price went up right after I did this video. Cheers

  • @tomolryify
    @tomolryify 6 месяцев назад +4

    Bike itself is now $2k. 😞

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  6 месяцев назад +1

      Hello, yes Velotric announced an across the board price increase to offset the new Chinese tariff. All ebikes made out side the US. (and most made in the US because they use parts made in China) have just announced price increases. There are several people who watched this video when it first came out and jumped on the $1529 purchase with the discount code I provided. Not sure what kind of discount codes are available today but you will certainly pay a few hundred more than I did. Cheers

    • @ShouldaWaved
      @ShouldaWaved 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@lifebehindbarz60 I'm thinking of just getting fast light hard tail my money go a lot further, and not have to worry bout replacing $500 battery, and just stuff going wrong got bad luck, everything falls to shit, kinda want a gravel bike again but those my bike trails are so nice here and it's been year's hence a good light hard tail maybe over a gravel bike. In Michigan. Sure wish I could test drive this beast. Damn you got a good deal on that fork wow and 2.5 lbs lighter, love it.

    • @lifebehindbarz60
      @lifebehindbarz60  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ShouldaWaved Hello, if you are younger and still able to ride a non-assisted bike then a good used hardtail mtn bike is the way to go. You can use the money you save to put toward nice weekend trips to good trails and scenic areas. Now I ride these off road ebikes because I'm in my mid 60's and have just gotten so slow on a regular bike that it isn't much fun. The ebikes have brought the fun back into biking for me. Thanks for watching!

    • @ridepastu1418
      @ridepastu1418 4 месяца назад

      @@lifebehindbarz60they’re coming out with new models shortly

    • @jgarma
      @jgarma 2 месяца назад

      @@ridepastu1418 Are u saying that Velotrek is launching new models soon? I just wrote the company and they said they're not, at least not for the Summit.