Flying with cash? Law enforcement can seize your money without telling you why
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- Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2023
- If you’re flying with cash, police can take it without ever having to prove you did something wrong. Channel 2 consumer investigator Justin Gray found out that it’s happening regularly at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport and that it can be a long and expensive process to get that money back, even if you’re never charged with a crime.
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Stop calling it a seizure, it’s theft.
Stop calling it theft. It's robbery...
it should read rob
more correctly, legal robbery
Civil asset forfeiture
that is the correct wording for legal robbery. are you a cop? is that why you know the wording?@@fauxbro1983
Is this a joke? This is open theft, plain and simple.
Civil assest forfeiture. 100% legal and happens every day. Cash is suspicious.
Thank former President Trump's Suupreme Court selections.
@veramae4098 I don't like Trump, either. But making up false crap like that doesn't help anything. Civil Asset Forfeiture of cash has been going on loooooong before Trump. It's not even that hard to find many examples right here on YT that are dated back over 15 years.
@@DistrustHumanz I fully agree.
@billytheadult6247 it's the people on the Supreme courts fault because they choose the cases they take and they don't choose one about civil asset forfeiture.
The land of freedom. Yet we aint free at all. Law abiding citizens treated worse than criminals
I cross the border often. They're always asking me how much money I'm carrying. They can my phone without permission, and search me without permission.
@@Jonathan-un7uq one should never carry more than $40.00 to keep the gestapo away.
The land of liberty
A certain someone tried to overthrow the government on January 6th and got away with it.
Illegals are searched (and bothered) less than law abiding citizens. We have to have license, passports, go through screenings.illegals give a fake name-no documents-and move freely throughout the country, including flying anywhere they want on your and my money
Need to arrest whoever authorized that theft. This is abuse of authority.
Cool now do something about it
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Abuse is the name of their game
What people don't know is that this doesn't happen only in airports. You can be stopped on the highway and your money can be seized without the police having proof you had done anything wrong. All they need is suspicion or any excuse they can come up with. One man had $100,000 in cash on his way to buy a farm. His money was confiscated, and he couldn't get it back.
Yep civil forfeiture. It's just ridiculous
I know exactly what you talking about,they were going to close a real estate deal.I don't give af about no badge or nothing when it comes to my money,life or protecting my family. We going to war,bc that's robbery plain and simple.smh
Yep.........the same thing happened to me in Colorado the stole 33k from me while I showed everything needed to prove it was legally earned and of course I was never charged for that. ACAB And don't trust the government
@onespeedlite You are absolutely right! I remember around 4-5 years ago, I saw on RUclips how a policeman can stop you, check your car, and take your money; and your car. Well I didn’t believe it until now.
I came to say exactly this. This has been an ongoing problem. Everyone turns a blind eye because the people that are supposed to fix these problems, are the ones benefiting from the cash seized. Any cash they seize they get to keep. Highway or flying. I don't condone violence, but, I wanna see someone get pissed as I am about this. Everyone should be. These crooks need to be brought to justice. This should've been making national headlines two years ago. It is all across the US. We need to come together and call for change for this specifically. Cops are stealing our money! Defund them and they rob you. Wtf??
This is a shakedown. Literally extorting people by fear of prosecution. These people are criminals.
Funny how you don't hold those who make the laws accountable.
@Rockhound6165 you must be LEO
@@Rockhound6165I don't think that the laws were designed to be used to shake down the public. Law enforcement twisted it so that they could further pad their endless budgets.
@@SirPatrickBossington OK. So what you're saying is that the individual cops are taking that money and put it in their pockets then? Or do they confiscate it, put it in an evidence locker, and someone from the special investigation division comes and gets it. If you have evidence of the former by all means turn it over to the authorities. But stop acting like the cops take that money then everyone goes drinking with it after the shift. You clueless morons make me laugh.
@@Rockhound6165....it's up to the individual Law Enforcement Officers discretion.
Wow! This is pure robbery how can they just take your money for no reason? This is totally wrong!😡 I hope more people start suing left and right to stop this
It won't matter. All the lawyers, judges, and police officers are touching each other at their lodge meetings.
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That is, they follow the communist way. Communists can rob you of your property at any time, without giving a reason
Politicians at all levels must be relentlessly asked about this at Town Hall meetings and rallies. We need to get it on the radar as a major talking point at campaigns, debates, etc.
There is no way to sue. Are you living under a rock? They make it so expensive to try to get it back that it's rarely worth it.
The DEA should be disbanded and officers arrested for intentional theft and made to pay costs incurred by innocent victims.
Yes drug prohibition is unconstitutional. According to the Supreme Court the government does not have the authority to ban intoxicants.
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Law enforcement does stuff like this and then they wonder why people don't respect them anymore
They are part of the shits 😂
Took the words right out my mouth
BaCk dA bLu. LMAO
Exactly.
Yup.
Never tell cops you have cash, never allow them to search you or your car.
Good luck
Yes.....Good advice, Because We all Know that Cops/Law Enforcement always Plays by the rules.
"I don't consent to any searches and I don't answer any questions without a lawyer. If i'm not under arrest at this time, let me leave."
@@ianbattles7290 Well you'll likely be placed under arrest then, but yes.
You cant get $39,000 in cash through the airport without them knowing
That’s so messed up . That’s a robbery . Law enforcement is corrupt .
"Men with guns took all of my money and then just walked away with it. How is that NOT armed robbery?"
@@ianbattles7290 Facts
If they seize your money and you have to take them to court to get it back and win, then they should have to pay your legal fees!
The fact that contesting a seizure can cost more than the value of what was seized proves that *innocent people have no meaningful recourse for wrongful seizures.* The government will ruin your life and then add insult to injury by sticking you with the bill!!!
This is bigger than people realize. We need to protect cash at ALL costs. The government must NOT BE ALLOWED TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO GIVING UP CASH MONEY.
You’re the only one with eyes. Beware the mark, beloved.
Your so right without probable cause we should be able to fight for our money with our life if needed they are basically robbing you
@@giomaximo4737 can you buy groceries with bitcoin? What about fuel? Or pay a power bill, or buy a house or car. The whole world has to adopt crypto so it has ultimate utility before the US government tries to roll out their digital currency and ban other forms.
Voting for Democrats have consequences
"Or go bitcoin"... bitcoin still has extremely limited use for daily application.
Most people wouldn't sell you a home, car, or something you need to live for bitcoin.
You avoid criminals just to get robbed by the police.
Who work for the state or federal government at airports.
They are the real criminals! Only 🐑 does not see it.
Police don't get to keep the money it's your lawmakers who make the laws
@@janetrogers4738They actually get a portion of the money.
so you didn't avoid the criminals
I do not understand how this taking is not a 4th amendment violation. No seizures without a sworn warrant is supposed to be the law of this country.
They give permission to search
I refused to hand over 9k and they got really pissed off when I told them is either you arrest me or let me go. If you hand over the money you literally giving them the higher hand; just refuse to give the money and ask to be arrested and if they arrest you the money becomes locked with the charges given to you and once you are acquitted of the charges, they are forced to give the money at the time of the release. Its basic guys if you are clean and you know you are clean just force them to arrest you. The moment you went after the plane is the moment you screwed yourself.
Where did this happen at? Just curious.
@@TheKRL78 JFK
@@adelmohamed9311 I'm glad you stood your ground
How can the government take a persons hard earned and already taxed money? This is outrageous!
No freedom in the USA
Because pigs
You boomers let things get out of control
They gots guns
the RICO act was passed to target gangs but the police use it to seize money knowing they will send it to the dea who returns a large part of it back to the police department.
Ironic they call themselves Law enforcement but it’s just highway robbery. How is this even Legal? Note to self, Don’t carry large sums of cash when traveling.
Why would you anyways.
@@Rowan-mo4koi travel to my country every year i always bring cash. 💵
@@waywardsoul4918then when you get ROBBED, don't blame anyone but yourself. Airports tell you not to fly with cash. People like you will always blame others rather than your own stupidity.
Cash is worth less and less, and so for any use we need more. I routinely take $500 out of my checking account each month in cash for people who I hire for help (I'm 71, disabled). I wonder, is $500 enough for them to say it must be drug or crime related and seize it?
@@Rowan-mo4ko some people like offering cash on the barrel to get a better price on things like a car as in the car shows like gas monkey garage. a check offer doesn't move the price as much.
Never talk to law enforcement. You are under zero obligation to talk to them and answer questions. Also, they will make you sign a form stating you are giving them consent to search your bags at the airport too. That’s why they took the money since it came from an authorized search. Tell them no to the search. I’d rather miss my flight than lose $8-$39K!
Just imagine planning and preparing a vacation for weeks/months, *only to be robbed by the cops at the airport...*
Came back from a wedding my wife and I had in the EU. Was shitting my pants this would happen when I had 6k in cash from wedding gifts. Nothing should be seized without a public court issues warrant
Even if you sue and win, it seems the court won't award you your attorney's fees, which it really should. It should award the victims punitive damages too for all the time, energy, and aggravation they have to go thru to get their money back.
the court if you have not noticed is a part of the mafia or dictatorship under the guise that there is a mutual party
thats why you *must* sue for the money, and damages.
@DellikkilleD and Trauma to. I'd spend my savings or get a loan to sue for everything you can.
Did you really win your case if "winning" costs you almost as much as you lost in the first place?
@@ianbattles7290 One time I sued a business owner for refusing to pay me what he owed me. The court ruled in my favor, so in that sense I won my case, but the owner still refused to pay me. It wound up costing me money for court expenses, and the lien I put on his business, all to no avail. So I won, but I lost.
NEVER agree to a search. Always say "I do NOT give you permission to search my belongings." If they say they will just go get a warrant and you'll miss your flight, repeat "I do NOT give you permission to search my belongings." You are under no obligations to speak with them. Ask "Am I being detained?". They cannot detain you without probable cause.
You can't go to the airport, put yourself in a TSA line, then tell them they can't go through your stuff. Lol. There's no warrant needed. Go read a book, please.
They don’t need your permission tho at the airport and at the border.
They can n will. How many times u been pulled😂. I don't know what world u live in😂.
@@KB-kp2ozThe stops are after you pass through TSA, So once you clear TSA you can in fact tell the DEA that no you do not consent to a search, even better you are not obligated to engage with them whatsoever. Learn your rights.
@@dmo848Once you clear the TSA security checkpoint you can in fact tell the DEA that you refuse any searches and they can’t detain for lack of probable cause. Learn your rights. You don’t even have to talk to them
This has been going on for decades all over the country. Not only at airports but on traffic stops by state and local enforcement everywhere. It’s part of their budgets. It’s taken this long for the media to notice.
It happened to me 8 months ago, apparently I owed money from 23 years ago and they finally came after me. I couldn’t pay my rent, then lost my job and was homeless for 6 months. I never even got served.
it's called theft. no matter who does it.
This is just another example of why We The People had better quickly turn this country around, because we are very, very close to losing it all. The corruption in our government and law enforcement has reached 3rd World levels. Everyone is far too complacent about their rights, preferring to care about TV shows and football rather than liberties and the state of our country.
facts....and they keep voting for the same factions like those factions are doing ANYTHING but making it worse
I blame the democrats and some republicans, they love communist bs
It’s too late imo… especially when the people vote with feeling over logic. Country is in shambles and getting worse by day.
Well said.
Nah bro we're too busy locked in fighting over abortion and birth control and s*** from the 1950s.
Anyone else appreciate the News finally looking out for us?
This definitely goes against our Fourth Amendment! Hope we can get everyone together that have been harassed and unreasonably searched. It’s time to take them to court!
This needs to be exposed at all levels. Journalists should show up at airport and expose the people seizing money without probable cause. Maybe they should go as far as surrendering money under cover and report on legal process to get it back. Unfortunately the recipe to get targeted is pretty simple to figure out.
The recipe is simple - Have something that a federal or state law enforcement agency wants.
The Institute for Justice has a ton of videos and exposes on this.
Walk with your resume and W2s
@@tarikviaer-mcclymont5762 I walk with my big “Anaconda and 🏀’s .. So far so good 😊
These cops should be charged and convicted of theft! Still... WHY would you travel with large amounts of money?
If you take the case to trial and win. The seizing law enforcement agencies should have to pay the legal fees they were wrong and it’ll deter from future thefts of innocent people’s money.
They don’t look it up
What "should" happen is that the criminals should go to jail.
That and they fired and need as many charges brought against them as possible.
They would’ve never got it from me, I would’ve missed that flight that day 🤨😂
That’s stealing! They can’t just taking people money by assuming! They need to be hold accountable and paid for all the legal fees!
This is unethical at best, criminal at worst. They clearly wait until it's time to board the plane, then spring into action to seize your money.
Note: Once you pass TSA search, you do NOT have to consent to another search by the DEA agents. They ask you for consent when boarding starts so you will just agree to not miss the flight. This was all described in another vid made by Atlantic Journal.
TSA is likely notifying DEA when you pass through the security check.
They should be forced to produce a warrant before search and seizure and that poor guy losing 90% of his money in legal fees just to get his money back is criminal.
Yes you do!!
No you don't. Read up on it
You're dumb. When TSA and DEA ask to search you, you literally have zero choice in an Airport. Also, Airports tell you DONT FLY WITH CASH.
!T IS, criminal at least, unethical
period. It is stealing, it is wrong, it is fascism, bananas. Republic, shenanigans.
Even if u don’t they still will coz who are you to them???nobody just another toy they can play with
About 25+ years ago, I was boarding a flight from Houston to Costa Rica. In the jet bridge from the terminal gate to the airplane, there were several uniformed officers (custom?) who were asking passengers if they were carrying cash. I didn't answer or acknowledge their question, but a young Costa Rican woman made the mistake of admitting that she was carrying a LARGE sum of US cash. I never saw her board the plane. I felt bad for her because she probably legally earned that money and was returning to Costa Rica to financially support her family. I knew she was going to lose all her money to the US government for simply being honest. After all these years, that still gets me MAD.
If she is legally carrying the Money she would DECALRE IT. it's against INTERNATIONAL LAW to not declare money (usually over 10K) when travelling. These laws have been around for decades. If Americans are ignorant to them it's Americans fault
@@joelhungerford8388 I wonder who you voted for 😅bootlicker
She's Costa Rican...you're ignorant of basic English comprehension@@joelhungerford8388
@@joelhungerford8388Why should on have to declare money? Dumb law that violates our privacy. Shouldn’t be the government’s business whether we are carrying cash or not.
Legend goes she kept all the money
It's terrifying to think that the cops could just take all of the money in my pocket *without even giving me an explanation.*
Below 10K is legal possession.
That young man got jacked, plain & simple.
The behavior of these agents are no different thank that of a street criminal. They need to reach out to their congressional leaders for help
The only difference I can see is a badge.
Those congressional leaders are the ones who make these idiotic laws.
@@Amsterdale the cops aren't the problem, genius. They don't make the laws and they don't get to choose which laws to enforce.
@@Rockhound6165 I understand that. I didn't mean to insinuate that it's the cops fault, however, there are definitely corrupt cops out there (Coffee City, TX, Marion, KS, Methuen, MA, Antioch, CA, Jackson County, FL...). In most cases it's still the department management that's at fault and in some cases this is a trickle down effect from local government and right on up the ladder to the highest offices in the country. Corruption exists on all levels of our governmental bureaucracies. I know a lot of cops. Some are great, some suck. The point is that governments in this country are corrupt and there's not a f***ing thing that any of us can do about it.
@@Rockhound6165 I stated that some cops are great and some suck. To clarify, most of them are great but a few are just as corrupt as their leadership and their leadership above them and their leadership above them and on and on ad nauseum. I am pretty close to being a genius by the way. 126. Thanks for the compliment.
This is total bs. What a scam.
Sad that they can do this w/o an actual law.
*_”most of his money was eaten up by legal fees”_*
Damn! First, the government robbed him then the shyster lawyer robbed him
Nah the justice system got him twice.
Your money is not really your money anymore. They can't seize crypto.
Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are considered seizure-resistant because physical force or legal coercion alone can't transfer them between parties without the corresponding private keys. However, authorities can force someone to reveal their private keys if they can identify their real-world identity and bitcoin addresses.
Cryptocurrencies are also censorship resistant because no single entity can unilaterally freeze a user's account and seize their bitcoin as long as the user controls the private keys. However, judgment creditors can garnish bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies in most cases, including bitcoin accounts held at US institutions like Coinbase.
They SHOULD PAY DAMAGES & COURT COSTS
The government or the government employees who do the harm don't have to pay. They simply steal more money from taxpayers and pay the court order with it. Its called qualified immunity
They can't. That's a "feature" of the federal gov in these cases. Best case scenario is they offer you a deal of half back so as to avoid you having owe your lawyer more than what you are trying to get back.
Yeah, but should does not.
Never speak with law enforcement without a lawyer
To an extant. Defaulting straight to no communication is never going to help the situation. Its good to know when to not bend, but its also good to be a reasonable person.
@@jakeplumber1373
NEVER SAY ANYTHING, EVER!
@elcajoia619 lol see where that gets you. Basic communication is not "giving up your rights".
@@jakeplumber1373
"Basic communication"
There is 358 Positive Words That Start with G, my moral compass in life is based on that,
Good people should be treated with Generous Greetings, not with your Guilty.
This is FRIGHTENING, folks. This could happen to Any of us! What is America becoming??
That is a theft. DEA and law enforcement who commited theft shall be prosecuted and held accountable under oath of duty, to serve and protect innocent citizens of the land.
What gives them the right to confiscate your money that does not belong to them?? How corrupt is law enforcement!!
Your Congress who else.
They want a cashless society
American democracy at work and we accuse of China and Russia with lots of BS. Their citizen love their government while US citizen get this kind of treatment. I am sure these cops on the airport and on the road get promotion quicker if they steals more money from traveler.
yah how can they fly they need the money the passengers still id have a bad feeling w alot of money only on flights they do that easy to put on bank and take out later
they're just a bunch of uniformed thugs
This has been happening for decades, I find these stories absolutely infuriating.
you could keep it in bank and take it out from atms or from same bank in other city i thought this was only out of country
if your in usa you shdnt take so much cash common sense you have atms or branches in other citys so foolish to do that easily avoidable i thought you could have 10k
@@rogerrosen2323 Domestically you should be able to have as much as you want
yes and you make a flight w no money to do what you want there should be warnings at check in so you dont make the flight still a bank and then take out when you get there makes alot of sense still the tsa and cops can do what they want so the flight is wasted you have no money@@jonathanwpressman
better never to bget involved with that much cash on a flight/dont understand your allowed 10k going overseas you need to convert it for vacation@@jonathanwpressman
Civil Asset Forfeiture should be required to be directly tied to a crime before it is legally allowed. It has become disgustingly obvious that Ethics, Integrity, Scruples, Honor, and Honesty are no longer Character Traits of our branches of Law Enforcement as they take money without tying it to a crime. The Legislature should take action to fix this immediately. And while they are at it, they should remove Qualified Immunity and Judicial Immunity, too, as they have been abused way too often!
This is why some people are starting to believe that putting a "crook" in Uniform out commission may be the last resort to protect their hard earned cash 😢
Unlawful seizure
This is so sickening and heartbreaking to hear. Government sanctioned theft. How can they take it, when no crime has been committed?
Civil asset forfeiture.
Those with coin, connections, crews, clout, computer code, control, corruption, and opportunities may do whatever they wish. It is what it is.
@@toxicweasok but can you explain the legality of it when no crime was committed.?
It's sad to say this, but bringing cash to airports is dangerous due to stupid aml rules. Anti money laundering laws. It's stupid af.😊
And we thought thieves were bad 😂
Your first mistake was talking to any Federal agent while flying. They have no rights to detain you or search you or your bag. The only ones that can search your bag is TSA and that’s related to airport and flight security.
U should write a manual...
Abolish the TSA too.
And the TSA alerts them for a cut of the ill gotten profits.
You’re wrong. They can at any point of entry into the US. No need for your consent
That's not true. CBP can stop and detain you. They do no not need your permission to search your bag if they scan it and the scan gives them reasonable cause to open it. The Patriot Act changed a lot of things.
This is straight F**ked up! Taking their money then losing money in his innocent case because of legal fees. This crap gotta change like yesterday because it's not right at all!!
This has been going on for decades!
*This is **_precicely_** the kind of outrageous and gross overreach that Congress can eliminate on a bipartisan basis. (Oh. Wait. **_Nevermind.)_*
I think more people need to cover this so people don't travel with large amounts of cash. If you do make sure you have proof of what you're using it for. Like me I need to buy a vehicle and I'm looking from me in texas to California because that span is the best place to buy a used vehicle. This gave me some great ideas on how to proceed from here. Thank you for doing this.
This why letting the government pass all types of laws without question is a mistake . People look down on groups that protest this types of government activities but at this is exactly why
REAL CRIMINALS WEAR BADGES!
Congress needs to subpoena the head of DEA in a hearing and make them accountable for changes to this sketchy policy
White collar crime 💯
Did not know this could even happen? Total eye opener..
This is literally interstate robbery. John Locke made the case that seizing your property, your livelihood, is as good as an attack on your person, on your life. I would argue that there is a case, as well, for self-defense, no matter that they are carrying a badge.
*Furthermore: this point is academic. I am not advocating for violence. But if there is grounds for self-defense, then this practice is putting the lives of LEOs at risk.
Emotionally, I like it.
Logically...they will use that as an excuse to never give the money back and probably search your home and steal more of your valuables while you rot in prison awaiting trial.
@@AndyDrake-FOOKYTnot if everyone did it.
@@anmweather8668But then most people aren’t willing to come together in this country.
@@Jeff-ow1qq Most people aren't necessary to come together. All that is needed is to elect the right representative to congress to protect our rights. Or gather and protest.
Civil assist forfeiture! Is Wrong!
TSA stole my dji pocket camera out my checked bag. Nice enough to leave an inspection tag in the bag
why did this fool tell them he has cash? DEA has NO authority at airports..they CANNOT search you without warrant or you permission......
Yeah, this has been going on for decades. It's about time to see some reporting on it.
No, it started with Trump's Supreme Court choices. They pulled this new "law' out of their, uh, nether regions.
@@veramae4098 It goes WAY past Trump - the legal justification actually goes back hundreds of years (to the mid-1600s in British maritime law), but it began a comeback under Regan (Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984) and has been getting ever worse since then. I've been aware of and following these cases since the early 2000s.
@@veramae4098this predates trump lmao you tripping 😂😂😂
“If he was carrying drugs or guns”
Yes because you can clearly get through TSA with those items
Bro why'd they cut the video short at the end????
1. You're not searching anything without a warrant.
2. I'm not answering any of your questions.
Jerry Johnson's case was key to the State of Arizona passing House Bill 2810 against civil asset seizure since his money was actually taken at Sky Harbor Airport in Phoenix. His case was quoted in passing the legislation that Gov. Ducey signed and made into law in 2021 and under ARS 13- 4305 , section E " The presence or possession of United States currency, debit cards or credit cards, without other indicia of a crime that subjects property to forfeiture, is insufficient probable cause for seizure of United States currency, debit cards or credit cards."
Problem there is that it isn't Arizona doing the seizing. Feds could care less. On roadside stops where cash is found, the local PD calls in a DEA agent who shows up at the scene and does the seizure. Then,nthe DEA gives the locals a "finders fee", generally 85% of the amount seized.
@@bradbrown6034The law was modeled after others that have passed after being challenged on those grounds the courts ruled the state can stop federal agencies from seizing anything because it was DEA that took Mr Johnson's money. When he went through TSA to board his flight the TSA saw the money and called the DEA and the DEA was waiting for him in Phoenix. Part of what helped pass the legislation is that the TSA acted as agents for the DEA and that was that was taken into consideration in writing the bill. Local PD cannot take anything for anybody from anybody because they are Arizona certified officers and aren't going to risk that certification.
I seen this at NYC JFK. It’s pathetic to see people lined up to board a plane a see law enforcement with dogs, delay the flight to let the dogs sniff out cash. Not to sniff out explosives material.
Public safety is not being served.
They are also trained to not do anything about blatant drunks boarding: "Not our problem"
Usually if a stranger asks if i have something or not, i respond with "whats it to ya" or "whos askin" 😂
Ninja, you KNOW what was suspicious about you...
You were sitting .....and we simply cant have that sir.
I was homeless and the cops "lost" all my personal possessions. Taking from the homeless there is no bar too low for them.
Even the shirt on my back was taken literally.
They did return my phone though, and I had shorts that's it.
Wallet
Shirt
Shoes
Hiking gear
Headphones
Gun
Etc
About 2k "lost"
It took months at a minimum wage job to replace everything. I filed a complaint and they said "filing a false report is a misdemeanor".
The state department through Bank of America intercepted my "zelle" transaction last year, which was a reimbursement for a trip we took to Cuba last year. My live-in boyfriend and I traveled to Cuba last year, and split all the expenses., like we always do, my note on the transaction was decribing what the funds were for, just for my benefit, they saw the word "to pay for 2 Airbnbs in Cuba. Airbnb is an American company. I used my American credit card to pay for the accommodations right here in America. Other descriptions were on the note, but they completely ignored the other descriptions. Descriptions like payment for light bill, and the address. They zeroed in and the name Cuba, confiscated my money and NEVER gave it back to me. I tried everything to get my money back, but failed. Americans give up their rights, and expect you to do the same, they seem to think the overreaching of the government is ok, because they are protecting us from "terrorism", but the only terrorist I am afraid of is, the United States government.
Amen
Instantly sue them for theft, its not seizure. Its shameful behavoir.😅
O yes, I recall a cash limit for taking on a trip to Thailand. ATM and credit cards (to a MUCH lesser extent) served just fine.
Avoid Atlanta at all costs.
All they they gonna get is a penny out of me, if that. I don’t carry cash 💰
This happened to me in California on a traffic stop they searched my car without a warrant took my 17k I own a locksmith company. But until I hired a private investigator on the two officer's and their sergeant. I took them to court with the evidence I had against them they quickly gave it back in court. Lol
how did hiring a PI make a case against them?
Glad for you, their crooks…
Whats a good way to move enough cash to buy a sailboat in a city you have to fly to and make the deal ?
This has been going on for years.
Its not just airports guys. This can happen anywhere. I still can't believe its legal.
Yet that's when they do it but if you do it they call you the thief. That's how these law enforcement works. It's similar to retirement money scandal, they will purposely make a mistake in your retirement benefit, never told you about despite you asking them to check for any error, let the amount skyrocket and then when the mistake is found they will punish you instead of the one who let the mistake slide for so long.
This just happened to my nephew. He drove to Vegas with cash, didn’t even fly, with cash he got from the life insurance policy of his mom’s passing. A maid cleaning the room called the cops about all the cash and the cops took it, until they can prove where it came from. And they took his car too. He had to ride the bus home. His mother had Hepatitis C and had been before he was born. She suffered for a while and finally lost her battle.
He kept cash out in the open in his hotel room for the maid to find?
Freedom😂😂😂
@@DelusionalNYC I used to travel a lot for business. When I have the maid come in for cleaning, I always put everything in my luggage in a corner where it does not need to be moved. I also put something on the suitcase so I would know if it has been moved or touched.
I never have the maid come in to clean until after I check out. Use the do not disturb tag.@@monkeyking-self-proclaimed7050
A way to avoid this is to open a foren bank account to where you’re going. Transfer your money into the foren currency you need in the bank account then fly with no cash but a couple hundred maybe
The better question: Why isn't this news station's reporters asking congressmen why they don't change this law? Doesn't the Constitution protect us from illegal search and seizure?
I don't fly anymore. I never have large amounts of cash. And I pretty much live under a rock. I miss my carefree and fun America of the 1980s.
Stuff like this is Exactly why we have a 2nd amendment
You can't carry a gun in the areas of airports where you encounter these agents.
@@dennisc6716so much for the 2nd ammendment.
You don't have rights inside an airport.
Abolish the TSA.
Abolish the DEA.
Send them to the border if they still want a job.
@@dennisc6716 it's not just airports, cops all over the country have been robbing people of their hard earned money..there are countless of cases of people getting pulled over having their money taken by these corrupt road pirates... there was one where a veteran had his entire life savings robbed by these pigs just because he was traveling w it.. they do it under "civil forfeiture"
This is insane. I understand if you’re carrying suitcase full of cash, but a measly 8 thousand bucks is suspicious? Total absurdity.
Absolute Corruption Ring. Scanned passed security, who are letting agents know which passagers has cash to rob.
Welcome to AMERICA 🇺🇸
Welcome to the world of Civil Asset Forfeiture, where they "prosecute" the cash and not the person because cash has no civil rights. Yes, that is their position on why they feel it's legal.
Well good then, if the cash is convicted then it should be locked up where no one can use it. Otherwise, it should be returned to its rightful owners! This is absurd!! If the cash is guilty how are they gonna punish it? It's not about trying the money... that's a poor excuse! Because they've already got your money spent as soon as they take it. They've got plans with your money and there was never any trial of any kind either for you, or your money. But there should be for them!!
@@melparrishjr Who said anything about a trial? That's a human, civil rightsy kinda thing. That's got no place here.
@@dennisc6716 Well, as a matter of fact, the only way people could even try to get their money back was to sue for it but now, they can have a Jury trial to try whether or not the Civil Asset Forfeiture was a valid one. Meaning that law enforcement will have to prove their case to keep the assets. Can you imagine what the verdict will be?
@@melparrishjr Can it really be called a trial if you have to go there to prove your innocence? It's a civil matter at that point, so the state has no burden of a 'guilt beyond a reasonable doubt' standard that it would bear in a criminal case. Which also means they can even appeal if they lose.
@@dennisc6716 It's not about you proving anything. It's about Law Enforcement actually justifying their actions against you. They must justify it to a Jury and not just a Judge as it used to be. It was easier to manipulate a single Judge than it is to manipulate an entire Jury. But that's the law not my opinion about it. Another RUclips Lawyer did a piece about it a couple days ago. But it would be awfully rude for me to drop names and links in the comments section here. Still, people have a legitimate chance to get their assets returned to them. And in the future law Enforcement won't be able to take just anyone's stuff just because they want to.
CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST
It happening now with your taxes they tell you that you must pay this or go to jail, that’s extortion then at the end of the year they send you your money back which mean the system you use doesn’t work…
Keep Shining the Light
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Never, ever, ever, EVER travel ANYWHERE with large sums of money! All of this theft falls under the heading of "civil asset forfeiture". Basically, they say you *could* be a drug dealer or maybe your money *may have" been obtained via the drug trade and it's up to you to prove your'e innocent. Guilty until proven innocent. And if you're black (like the two men in this story), you know damn well you're going to be a huge target.
Now sometimes this is hard if you're traveling overseas and want to have local currency on you. The exchange rate is usually better when you get money from your local bank, as opposed to getting the money in the country you're going to. So I'd limit things to $1,000 if you're traveling overseas. Or even less, maybe $300. Enough so you can get through the airports, get on a taxi and get yourself to your hotel. From there, find local places, where the exchange rate will be better.
But if you're traveling in the US, do NOT travel with $5k, $10k or even more in cash, especially if you're a minority.
This is how citizens retaliate with deadly force, and no body would feel bad for all these illegal seizures. Wow… imagine just taking your money, no receipt or any way to track down how to get it back. Mind boggling
Relax man
@jbaru648 imagine getting robbed for 100k would you relax?
It's ridiculous. However there's a lot more going on at Atlanta airport. I've witnessed abuse of elderly, international travellers by the airport staff. It's unbelievable.
Yws we the people will stand up
Gangs with badges.
It's literally to the point now where someone can fly with $1000 in cash (which ain't that much these days) to Vegas to gamble and they will run you through the security wringer and seize it. Like no one has ever brought $1000 to Vegas before!
They aren't gonna seize $1000. $1000 can be someone's weekly paycheck at a job. That's not alot of money. It has to be over $3K.
@@naturistfredthey'll seize the 1k in a heartbeat. It will cost you more to sue to get it back, so it's free money for them.
Never fly with big cash. Never allow PO to search your car without a warrant. Record everything with your cellphone and ask for witnesses
And some people say there's no reason to own an AR! 😂
Law enforcement can take your money if you fly.
Law enforcement can take your money if you sail.
Law enforcement can take your money if you drive.
Law enforcement can take your money if you walk.
Law enforcement can take your money even if you never leave your home.