I played kensei so you dont have to - For Honor
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Kensei is the first and only samurai vangaurd who has only had 1 major rework and has remained steadfast for all the ups and downs of for honor. I believe kensei has a balanced kit that needs a bit of tweaking and should be the golden standard when ubisoft reworks a hero. Theres no denying he is a fun hero to play and strong in the right hands but hes been power crept by so many heroes that we can see how old he is now. What say you in your experience?
yeah it seems power creep is the name of the game now
I'm only rep 52 overall, but 19 of them are on kensei, and i love him. His kit feels balanced, hes great in team fights with the big sweeping heavies and zone attack. His bash could be a little better though, and maybe he could do it from the side heavies too, but other than that, I love him :D
Honestly, I believe that Kensei has aged super well especially when you consider how old his rework is. The only thing I’d add to your ideas is to make his side heavy finishers undodgeable because their range is already massive and have a pretty tight dodge window, they could also let him soft feint pommel mid chain since his pressure is lacking there but I feel like it’s alleviated slightly by his dodge heavies.
In my experience Kensei does have a tool for every situation, the difference being that with Kensei you have to actually put in some work and be a skilled player to access those tools.
he has been my main since the start, i have 70 reps in him the only one i have done so..so far (124 ish over all pc only), fighting pc players is a nightmare and even some old gen console players. i could go on a rant on the LIST of things he is weak to from the whole cast. i dont need to, just look up any post id say ccu update kensei videos or people talking about him...please ubi just a tweak..dont slaughter my boy..
So glad sol is playing all these heroes so we don't have to. Eventually we won't even have to play For honor 🙏Truly a saint.
But why would want to stop it's too good of a game to stop playing it tho
@@shadethefulf6901that’s why we come back lol you can’t find this combat in any other game
i love kensei because it remembers me what made this game fun, you never had cheap ways to win a fight, it took thinking, yet it was still a fun game and easy to understand
Using arrow storm to clear minions from far far away be like 🤤 (does body count passive feat makes you heal when you do that tho?)
@@Yeettto It Should and i believe it does for example wardens 3rd feat bomb heals when you have the 1st feat for minion health n stamina on minion kill
@@Kitsune_Chara_CG damn. that will be a nice strategy for kensei on dominion. like citedal gate(?) map you can see mid and also on one of the japanese maps
@@Yeettto Well it Depends if you alreae have someone w said minion feat id take the quicker stam regen
Otherwise it is YOUR JOB as a Kensei to do Minion Lane like unless its a raider lawbringer or another charackter whos atleast decent you can take a break
But i believe espacially w randoms we won games alone just bc i pressed R1 R2 Against Minions
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Or someone else on my team did that
@@Kitsune_Chara_CG we have conq all the time to do mid
I’ve been trying to get the chimera chest piece for kensei for over 3 months THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE they should add something so you can choose which pieces of armor you want but I’m just accepting it as it is bc the interns don’t get enough bagels
wish you could spend steel on armor pieces, like 100 for common, 1000 for rarest
I saw it one day and i got it the next day. So sorry for you bro
Same my dude, Chimera and Horkos sets are hella great
rookie numbers , been trying to get the basilisk sword for cent for years now
Scavenger chest should get you the pieces you still Don't have first by default
remember when the meme that kenseis dodje atack is op started going arround and ubi was like ''oh yeah lets add similar atacks to every character'' its like ubi tries to find what the comunity thinks is annoying, be it truly op or not, and adds it to every character ever
they should add a checkmark to join a late session in matchmaking and give a little extra steel reward for those who use it.
Something we could also use (and it was implemented in Rainbow Six ages ago), is a "Give up" vote system. It would require the entire enemy team, or 3/4, to vote yes to be valid, but at least it should help against the frustration of a noob team vs godlike 120 fps players
@@strikeforce1500 if they do that you wouldnt play a single full match dude
Would be frustrating
@@Oznerol1234 this should still be a thing in breach
I don't want to 1v4 an enemy team for the next 30 mins because they feel like farming me after seeing my other teammates all left
@@reelgesh51 also when you start a match and every person in the lobby is on the enemy team and you’re alone
@@reelgesh51 this game is full of rage quitters because all they care about is their KD
Its almost as if they die once they quit, so most of your Time will be wasted because everyone will just give up as soon as one rage quits
6:04 Every single match when there is someone like Highlander, Jorm, Berserker, Hitokiri, or Pirate. At least one person leaves and that's the end of the game for our team.
I am that highlander. Heavy, kick, heaby, kic , hEbvy!, kik
why jorm? seems like itd be free tbh, its very hard for that hero to succeed
@Gabo its simple hes a noob stomper😂
@Gabo well, i don't light spam but i am an enjoyer of stamina drain, if you cannot avoid a bash that i can't feint or follow up on well then that's on you
I’m really surprised people have a lot of trouble with hl like he’s my main and he’s fucking awesome in the right hands but you can easily shut him down
Yes leaving mid game is common in my experience in console and the best way to counter it is to find 3 friends who won't leave mid game
I got 1 friend who's always on with me and together we don't need the rest
Fuck em allllll, to glory or valhalla
Especially in breach
Atleast 2 players in losing team leave every match
And since you can dodge 15 min afk ban by hard quiting the game there's literally 0 reasons not to leave games that kill your soul
100% agree with what have been said in this video, Kensei is one of few heroes that is actually enjoyable to play against and play as, he doesn't need much of a tweaks, just a little buff to make him equal to heroes released nowdays, in fact I'd rather see a nerf to other heroes, mostly because all the new heroes and ,,reworked,, ones are really unfun to play against because of their power and unfun mechanics.
His top heavy too slow his dodge fowards heavy always gets parried and doing heavy never baits the enemy 😭
@@ahhhsothisishowyouchangean162 Top heavy soft-feint into Nature's Wrath is the most big brain mix up ever.
I one tricked Kensei to rep 70 and finished just before CCU hit. As time went on post-CCU he just got progressively weaker and weaker. Once hailed as "the most balanced hero in the game," he is now a relic of the past. I wish all the heroes in this game were as balanced as Kensei is, but unfortunately that is not the direction the inter- Developers want to go in. I cannot wait for Kensei to get a rework just to be insufferablely overtuned and unfun to play against because Ubi doesn't know what they're doing with their hero balance (or any balance).
I think Ubi just wants to make everyone broken so nobody will be broken anymore, but they suck at even that
Yeah it’s like every new character/rework is just giving them heavy dodge attacks and maybe an unblockable mix up yet not making the character better or improving their core design e.g. hitokiri rework literally just made the sweep viable and a dodge attack but she still feels the same it’s like they have a check list of what makes a character good put them on a character or add them onto a character and call it a day
My theory is that they make new character op and nerf old character to make you buy them if you want to have fun and do well then after theve made enough money nerf everything.
2024 is coming, kensei still dont get buffed
“B-but kensei op I can’t block his light attacks he needs a nerf because light spamming is too good”
lmaoooo
Lost so many friendships because people really try to argue with me when I defend Kensei for not being OP. I love this game.
Just dodge
@@ianl1253 honestly if people are losing friendships over something as small as the argument of a video game character, I don't think those friendships would've been worth to keep anyway
And then we have Nuxia... yes, Nuxia mains exist, we used to be 4, but one of us broke a hand trying to play with her
i am with you, i wont let her go no matter how much ubisoft wants us to hurt...
Was a nuxia main once, oh how much I suffered. Never again.
“I really hate how slow Kensei is”
Meanwhile HLs miss first cap if 2 or more mates touch first point depending on the map
I've been playing since year one. My general experience playing both groups and primarily as a solo player is that console players understand that they can't compete using their favorite heros against new heros. This lose of moral is even greater if they are paired against a 4player PC squad. The frame difference and latency differences make the game feel "cancerous." I don't think this is everyone's experience, but I do think this is a majority, which is why a lot of looking for group post state things like: chill vibes; no early quit; we all rage... I suppose I understand, but I'm confused on why I had to be this way in the end. The devs just keep adding even more disrespectful ways to execute or emote. Feels bad..
Thats also a good point. They add toxic emotes and executions to further divide the playerbase by making ppl more toxic.
is there a larger amount of PC players elsewhere, idk what it's like in other regions but in EU you're lucky to have one random PC player in the lobby, ever since crossplay was added I've had 2 full PC lobbies and I've played quite a bit, we just never run into PC players anymore
I’m a frequent returning Player who comes back every six months
Everytime I get back I’m like: “What the fuck happened to Shinobi’s moveset?” Or “Who is this new hero?”
At least only one hero that stayed pretty much the same, Kensei.
Do you think it s easy to play against console players when using pc, their moves, attack speeds seem totally off but it s the consolers who rage quit mostly...
can we just fully appreciate the beautiful satisfaction of your side heavy on kensei doing more damage on a light parry then on a guard break (cuz its the second chain hit on gb) but its just so genius and i love it
As someone that plays on xbox I can give some insight on why they always leave
A lot of people on consoles have been having a lot of problems on connectivity, especially with crashes, but there's also a lot of people that are kd warriors that care about there stats.
Not to mention if you get paired against clan kids, usually 1 to 2 people will usually just rage quit before the game even starts, honestly it's gotten to the point where if you know a clan name you can usually figure out how they'll play, there's a clan named LoF that's a complete 50/50 in dominion, whether they go full snowball 4 stack or if they actually play chill.
My LoF buds 😭😭😂😂
People leave more on consoles because you can dodge 15 min afk penalty by simply quiting the game instead of leaving ingame
I leave games because the enemy team ganks and light spams ONLY, they won’t engage you in a fight if two other people aren’t there.
Kensei is my favorite vanguard , he is just so unique and fun
Hope he gets some love soon he needs it so badly
as a Kensei main, I agree wholeheartedly that he is one of if not the single most balanced hero in the game. He proves that simplicity can still be achieved with a vanguard while still having a large and versatile moveset
What Kensei also needs is a mask that you can color.
YES!
Valkyrie's rework better be game breaking. She's too balanced for her own good.
Annoying asl
You got your wish.
I just want to say the way you’ve evolved your content is really impressive, obviously for honor is what does best on your channel and that’s fine but branching out and changing the formula is a cool adaptation. I think this video essay style works really well for you (no one else in the for honor circle is making this style of content and that’s valuable IMO), starting with the things you know well and care about is a great way to get your start! RUclips is the perfect platform for video essays and if you wanted to break into other topics I’m sure the algorithm will pick you up. Glad to see you getting success on the new content keep growing!!
i felt that gank after he started talking bout how slow kensi runs. then pirate in tanks go crazy.
I like how they did the shaolin rework, no crazy wide arc unblockables, no crazy infinite orange chain heavies, just improved flow and manueverability. Hope they do the same to kensei. Speed up heavies, all chain finisher heavies unblockable, maybe some crushing counters and definitely pommel strike from neutral. would give more options to feint chain heavies into pommel strike for turtles.
I've been having the same issues with players leaving a game when a match starts to tip in the enemy's favor, it's honestly frustrating to deal with.
The bots need a rework to be more effective, be constantly level 3s, or allow us to take control of bots whenever there is a breaking point so we won't have to watch a bot sit and die.
dude thats hilariously a good idea lmao
@@SolidSol69 I feel like then people would argue of who wanted to play the bot. I guess first come first serve but idk
@@WarlordofWarren csgo works that way so why not FH :D
Tbh i myself leave every time when there are two pirates or raiders in enemy team
I love kensei, I used to play him a lot in year 3. I got inspiration from watching Toeknee playing him in his dominion match gameplay and he was a blast!
I just think reliable soft feints have always been the answer. With a proper damage value, stamina cost, and multiple options that weave through the kit, it solves most heroes' issues. This is a large part of what you've talked about already in the video, but I don't think it gets to quite everything.
Problem is that they often just give heroes a soft feint that literally does one thing (PK, BP, Valk), or loops back into itself (Raider, TECHNICALLY Aramusha) to piss people off. With Kensei, neither problem is present. This is largely why his soft feint feels fair and a large part of why he's satisfying to play. You have choices that branch off leading to multiple results, and thanks to having those choices, it becomes (a little) harder to predict too.
There also isn't always a winner/loser of the soft feint interaction, it can go back to neutral or catch obscure options. There's a reason we like glorified rock-paper-scissors, sometimes we win, lose, or something else happens entirely. A lot of heroes in For Honor force you to play more like you're picking between a short and longer straw, and there's only one of each for you and your opponent.
Kensei's soft feint has its problems, but it can be solved without giving it hyperspeed, or an infinite loop.
I know soft feints are a frustration for a lot of people but I don't think it's the nature of the mechanic so much as it is the implementation that's been done with it. They can also be very intricately routed in so many ways, and hence unique.
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Bonus: Dodge recoveries were very similar in nature to soft feints, as they allow you to mix back into your other options. It shares the same core fundamental aspect of what makes soft feints fun to use. The main issue is that many characters lack the tools to deal with dodging targets- I don't think there's too much wrong with dodge cancels, there's just an overwhelming lack of tools to deal with them. Almost no characters have an on-demand undodgeable. The characters who do have tools against dodges, they don't feel nearly as crippled as characters who don't when fighting dodge specialists.
Im very pleased with myself after realization I’ve never rage quit a for honor game
i agree with you sol, kenseis kit is a lil underrated in the current metas, but back in the early days of for honor, yeah kensei was a damn beast and still can be, just not as much anymore when in 1v4 or 2v4 situations, my recent problem on for honor is my team mates (i play mainly dom and breach) are mostly 'honor' players that will 1v1 in a 4v4 game mode, like i understand if theres only one person on an obj, but when were all fighting for an obj and i see one of my team mates just stand there and wait, while the other 3 of us are getting ganked, myself included. my main problem on for honor is them giving every character and their grandmother a bash into light/heavy openers or finishers and it gets so annoying when your trying to anti-gank and then all of a sudden you get pushed to a ledge or just killed by unblockable spam.
either way im glad sol did this video, my favorite warrior to use and anytime i see a pirate i just sigh deeply and clench ny cheeks for the ensuing side-dodge fight.
Back during the golden era of For Honor I think I was in the top 100 kenseis on ps4. Still my favorite hero to play even though Im at a disadvantage most of the time, but like you said in the video, that just makes the wins alot more satisfying.
lol ps4
@@Andreas163 lol dumb ass comment
Ps4 , where the skilled players are at home😉
@@Rif_Tv_Gaming Was also master rank on PC for a few seasons before I got bored of ranked. Ps4 was definitely harder cause of 30 fps and input lag
@@7Swordz i know but for honor fanboys like freeze says PC gamers have no advantage. I own a PC and a ps5 now After ps4. I know the differences between this 3 Generations of Hardware. So i understand console players leaving more and more now.
Kensei is so satisfying to play, i remember picking him up oa few times and enjoying it at low reps (dodge heby go brrrr) but once i realised he had soft feints, ooooh it was heaven, soft feinting the unblockable into a side heavy cathes so many dodges and feels so good to trade with
he does great against pirate too
I've seen rep 50 - 70 kenseis that just dodge heby and lightspam. Thank god some kensei players know how to read
@@SkaterBlades i used to just do that but it got boring quick, learning to soft feint into lights and side heavies and gb's makes it interested
@@Techno_Bunny433 it's just a bad playstyle, anyone competent can counter it. So many kenseis play with the the dodge heby monkey gryphon mindset and it's just sad because kensei has a very nice moveset
@@SkaterBlades ikkkk, yeah, whenever i encounter a monke brained kensei i feel the need to beat them just so that they can be educated about their playstyle being boring
Just gonna say, as an artist, I absolutely adore the thumbnail art for each of these
I've felt like, ever since they've gone hard into the read-based meta, that I can't keep up. My reaction time has always ben less than stellar, but back in earlier For Honor just before I quit after Gryphon launched, I felt like I stood a chance.
Now I keep For Honor uninstalled because the last time I played For Honor, I got harder sweat squads than I do in Dead by Daylight and had zero fun and zero matches that even felt remotely close. And this was like the first two games after I started playing again after like a whole year, so my only assumption at that point is that Ubi$haft must not have ANY form of MMR decay from inactivity. I kept watching content on For Honor, but it's become yet another game that I like watching more than I can enjoy playing. I just can't enjoy it anymore.
Kensei, however, was a character I found frustrating earlier on, then really realized why he was a balanced blessing once the power creep came in.
It's so fun to stumble into completely new content, like I've literally never touched for honor but hey here I am
Get out while you still can!😂
lucky you
Play it, join our suffering!
dont mind me just a humble warden main whos been pressing x+sqaure for 6 and a half years because ubi refuses to make a sword character use a sword
Ah yeah, Warden the master of the longsword.
Most ironic is the fact that Kensei is also a sword master and we can see a clear difference between these two.
Had a game of breach where we had one bot, other team was obviously a stack and after first archer point got capped one guy left so there was just two of us, then the other guy got killed and left leaving me alone with 3 bots against a stack, ive never quite felt pain like it, i thought they’d atleast try and duel me or 1v1 instead of just mega stomping g and farming me and the bots for kills 4v1 but alas it is for honor afterall 🥴🥴
Yes I agree...what box man said...
It makes feel good and smile 🙂
About the ragequits, it’s not due to console, at least not Xbox. On Xbox, I would rarely have rage quitters. I don’t think the ragequits are because of cross play, but instead because of the declining state of the game.
To answer your question about playerbase on console:
In my experience there are *rarely* rage quits if any at all.
1:16 fortress of lies playing in the background omfg😭😭
Sol is the calm when im stuck in the chaos of For Honor
I agree 100%, some characters neer to be buffed while some should be nerfed. In the end it still brings the characters to the same level without raising the bar over our heads
"How does Faraam find the people he gets matched with" asking the real questions here XD
Ashes of Dreams kicking in at 3:16 just making my tear ducts melt, god I love your music choice for these videos lol
As a kensei fanboy myself I agree with your proposed changes, would definitely improve his performance while still maintaining a sense of skill needed to play him
The console crowd is naturally a bit younger because the cost of entry is quite a bit lower. Goes hand in hand with the quit rate I’d imagine.
Kreadiv is the best Kensei i've ever seen. His gameplay is how Kensei should be played.
Out of all my rep 70's Kensei by far was the most fun and satisfying
I find Kensei's boring to face purely because almost every Kensei I face just rotates between light spamming and dodge heavying so it's always an easy fight, and on the rare occassion I face a Kensei that actually utilises their kit and plays well I enjoy it, but that just never happens
Fr its literally just those that spam lights and dodges make me hate him
I can never beat a Kensei that spams side dodge :(
@@faastah619 just practice in training til you can consistently parry them
loved the nier music in the background great job as always sol
your choice of background music is always so great
Kensei is like "Slow Motion" hero
As a person from console it’s just having that one teammate who feeds revenge and runs away to the corner of the map and rage quit causing everyone else to do the same
Kensei is damn near perfect, that's why he's so rarely touched
Well… it would be nice to let him SF into his bash on heavy more.
Oh and there giving HL a dodge attack… LIKE HE DOES’NT ALREADY HAVE ONE! and they constantly neglect Cent. Give Cent some Hyper armor and a dodge attack of dodge bash
I think the thing new players hate about kensei is his so said "overtuned dodgeattack" that new players also happen to spam. You gotta condition yoyrself to play more defensively against it
Its not just that, its that the dodge heby is so safe to throw out it incentivizes spamming to an extent, they need to make it a light parry
@@breadaholic6445 the move is not safe by any means ,highly parryable and blockable.
I remember that there was a tech related to Kensei's old zone attack. You had to unlock from your opponent, turn your back to him, and use the zone attack.
It was ridiculously fast and almost impossible to block. Of course current zone attack is far better, mostly because you can feint it, but I enjoyed how shitty the character was yet Kensei players found their way around his silly kit.
Honestly his mid-chain needs more than just sped up heavies. It has zero external pressure and fails hard to passive players with mid-level or better reactions. His zone attack is also naked, alone with no chains or mixups while costing 60 stamina and an additional 10 if you want to feint it for 13+16 damage.
- Speed up heavies so opener top heavy is 800ms and mid-chain top heavy is 900ms (to account for hit/blockstun) and reduce their damage proportionally. This makes pommel strike have the same dodge window as reworked ring the bell, and as a side effect you could also use top heavy openers as a parry punish to avoid hitting teammates in a team fight (for a bit less damage)
- Enhance helm splitter.
- Zone attack can be chained into finishers after second hit, or dodge out of it at currently live feint timing (can't be used to tech full block with zone properties). Stamina cost is reduced to 20 for first hit and 20 for second hit, 10 for hard feint 0 for soft-feint like every other soft-feint in the game.
- Mid-chain top heavies have access to pommel strike instead of guardbreak. Mid-chain pommel strike will chain to mid-chain attacks again so you can mid-chain top heavy -> pommel strike -> mid chain light (guaranteed) -> finisher. This will pressure players to dodge even when externally blocking Kensei making his soft feints effectively dodge catchers but also parry bait. He won't need any undodgeables since side heavy soft-feints are slow enough to catch wu-lin dodges and some other dodge attacks.
- While not entirely necessary I'd love to see a special move for dodge-blocking where his forward dodge block guaranteed guardbreak also applies to side dodges since if the TG changes guardbreak changes go live that part of Kensei's identity will be gone and we'll all be left wondering why he still has dodge blocks.
- Tighten the delay window of the dodge attack to make it less oppressive at lower skill levels (and less cheesey vs charge bash mixups) but also allow it to be used immediately after a successful side dodge superior block past the newly reduced input window.
I've been working on a vid to approximate these ideas including the actual visualization of the timing changes, new zone chain and mid-chain pommel strike. The animations look pretty fluid even just by cut and pasting clips of the live Kensei.
I really wish Ubi would see vids like this and actually take them to heart for once instead of only considering that top 1% that plays the game like it’s a tournament, things have gotten so stale. More and more heroes are blending together as near carbon copies of eachother with every rework, infinite chain pressure is becoming the standard, personality and individual feel is being stripped from characters, and Ubi and a vocal part of the community seems to think being meta and “balanced” is all that matters.
Kensei is a shining relic from a time when I really genuinely adored this game and playing them still gives me a lot of joy. Kensei’s design philosophy should be there standard for heroes, not Pirate or whatever it is now. I’d like them to give them a touch up but with the way they’ve been going I honestly hope they never touch Kensei again. If they continue to push it much further in that direction I doubt even my nostalgia and reluctance to leave could save the game for me at that point
The music choice in all your vids is rly good, but the Nier: Automata... i love it
The pirate. That damned pirate… nothing but nightmares and PTSD every time I come across her…
Pretty solid points, kensei is like a relic of what the game used to be, before they gave most of the characters a copy and paste moveset.
The irony of this video before mr agent orange came out
I totally agree with you argument 'Kensei had the best rework'
I’ve been playing the game on and off since launch. And while I must say, crossplay fixed a hole that was growing (aka matchmaking was slow) it also shot itself in the foot. I myself am a platinum-diamond player on console. And while I don’t mind the pc players. Seems many people do. Sometimes it can feel like you were mismatched bc these players will counter damn near everything you try as if they can read your mind. And then ofc you have the unfun time of encountering sweaty 2, 3, or even 4 stacks of the same character in which I can’t blame people for not wanting to play against that. Pirate launch? I can’t even remember how many times I played against a minimum of 3 pirates in one game. And while yes “you should expect that with a new character release” it wouldn’t be such an issue if nearly every character new was so broken on top of having to learn their move-set.
I don’t even know what point I’m trying to make. Crossplay is fine, for the most part. And butthurt tilted gamers will always exist on any game or platform you go to. When you add more players, you will see more disconnects.
Tbh i dunno how for honor is right now, but isn't it blend ?
Like, don't all heroes basically have the same things with just different animations except a few ?
The past year i've watched some of the for honor dev streams for reworks and such, and all i noticed is that everytime an old or recent hero would just get the same things the previous hero had.
It feels lazy, like they don't know how to balance so they just handing the same move to all heroes and hope everyone is happy with it ?
At least one thing won't change, along kensei being the same solid guy : sol's voice truly is asmr worthy :P (pun intended)
I like your takes and your way to put bare the state of the game and each heores without being overly too optimistic or pessimistic.
Keep up what you like my man ! And thank you for the years of quality content ^^
I swear 1/3 of my matches are me filling in a team about 2 minutes into a match, but whenever we lose a teammate no one replaces the bot the entire game
Leveling Kensei up now. It is a struggle.
I loved where all the characters had a bit of a distinguish in playstyle. All the new characters have bashes, dodge attacks, unblockables and hyper armor. Leaves all the Og characters at a stand still
as a concil player...yeah we have a comically large amount of quits
I wish Warden would play more like Kensei, like a Swordsman.
Cent being classified as a melee specialist while having the worst bash who can't faint it once it hits lvl3
Solid sol just described the console experience to the T.
I love Kensei! Best Balanced hero and terrifying to fight against if your opponent knows what they’re doing - not because of cheap tricks but because of per skill
Faraam, the only case in for honor where its tough to find ppl of his skill and place into a single lobby. But just put in those lobbies to balance out the teams and call it a day xDDD
Yeah, console players LEAVE if they:
- 2 times in a row without help or an assist
- Team isnt backing up their dogshit plans
- team looks like are going to lose even though they werent helping or contributing to fights/objective
-leaves after dying to the same person 3 times in a row
- sometimes at the start of the match if its a 4 stack or all playing the same hero
- they arent going positive on kd
-if they arent winning fights
console players are the most saltiest players and quitting the application prevents the penalty from happening. So its a free pass to leave a game and find a new game.
Funny, I've seen pc players do this...so your umbrella attack on console players is kinda empty. Salty people everywhere on all platforms.
@@cetus835 well yes sure, but it does happen on console way more often, before crossplay got released i barely have seen people leaving the match, now i do almost every second to third match and what a surprise 90% of the time its a console player
@@cetus835 never said there were no salty players on any other platform. This is personal experience on why i see people leave games so fast and early in console matches. Lol
Also, is there a block system on other platforms? Ive been seeing the angry messages and people quickly block instantly. Missing the old times of just seeing the the hate messages, then the private fight, becoming allies and a new ally to battle with. Now its just sad to see ppl cant take a reply.
As an old gen console player here, rage quit is not so rare! Players indd leave if they are not playing good, litterly dying on the same zone every time and not playing objectives! If their plan fails they leave or if they see high ranking players. Also I experience quit often server issues myself allows me too continously dc. I write this now after the monstrosity reworked conq and the servers are more shit than before the update! So dc can also be a common cause for leavers and ofcourse latency! Sorry for some grammer mistakes, hope this give you all an example! Cheers!
Short answer for the question on console people leaving is yes, I find myself missing a lot of teammates early on and it really sucks
That nier background 👌The best
This video Is an essay on what Ubisoft should consider in this game: THE PLAYERS
Can't wait for "I played For Honor so you don't have to"
>:D
kenseis old top heavy finisher was the helm splitter animation
As a console player I can say usually I see rage quits happen every few games.
Rage quits are possibly more common after cross play due to the perceived unfairness that playing with PC players has.
I personally feel like PC players can be incredibly irritating due to their ability to block and sometimes parry lights whilst simultaneously light spamming me, getting parried, and still winning because their teammate finishes me off.
6:05 well console players know the disadvantage at what they play. We still have to wait for crossplay part 2. Lock pc at 60fps or add an input delay of like a minimum 100ms.
Also you can quit and boot up for honor in 2 minutes max with ni penalties, so quitting is op
no
dont wanna be rude, but these are no solutions at all, wtf
@@CelphTitled7 of course the pc players can't play on the same levels but will gladly enable crossplay to later complain about empty lobbies.
As a console player I do not remember people disconnecting as much as people have post crossplay.
My guess is increased salt due to platform racism.
Also, music used in the video?
I think Warden could have a more radical rework with a dodge attack like Hitokiri, I don't think it would be too much. But in general, I would give him crushing counters on the sides, light finishers with hyperarmor (after Double Light or heavy) and make the side lights the same speed as the top.
So just make him broken
@@booper1896 Why exactly do you think it's broken? Kensei has Hyperarmor on his light finishers, warmonger has the same chargeable bash mix up and has a Dodge heavy. I don't think it's broken, I believe it's something that would put him on the same level as the other vanguards and take the focus off shoulder bash.
I played for honor on console for abit and yeah people rage quitting mid game is very common, like it would be 5 minutes into dominion and my whole team would leave and be replaced at least 8 different times, rather it be due to connection error or them rage quitting from their first death
I've been kicked out of games in the most embarrassing times. LOL, I looked sooooo salty
5:05 Hahah no way, is that Voice of no Return from Nier Automata playing in the back? You have impeccable taste Sol.
yes. yes it is :>
started playing 4 days ago, now I'm here raging and almost broke my mouse this game is made by the gods of hell
sol should just call his channel " I played for honor so you don't have to"
personally been for honor clean for like a year now and going!
I feel this way about Conq rework. It makes sense he can feint actually now, but having to full guard to didn’t was cool and unique tbh
Team mates are constantly leaving after cross play yeah. Since they can't fix the minds of those who leave after losing one fight, they really need to fix the backfill system or it'll always be a problem.
Admittedly as a console player. I've noticed a lot more leavers now than before crossplay.
My belief is that now as console players are faced against PC they would rather not be forced to try and use so many mind games to open up a PC player.
They can just light spam me, but as soon as I throw out a light, they parry it. It’s so frustrating🥲
About people leaving: as a console player, for me it's very rare and always has been in 4's. I actually think a lot of people are being kicked out of the game because of ping spikes, i've been noticing It a lot, even with me who used to have an stationary 12 ping, sometimes the game just get crazy and i see 300-400 ping.
About rework: i do agree that things are out of hand and i'm the guy who said Gryphon was average in the past, Pirate is a monstrosity and need real nerfs. I liked something Jonda said, getting recover cancels only after heavies, but i liked the style they put on Orochi, It look very cool even with me don't playing the character, i think a better way of dealing with that would be removing dodge recovers out of bashes and dodge attacks, It may mean very little in 1v1 but when my team suck(90% of the games) and we are in a team fight against a good Orochi or Pirate they are literally untouchable.
About Kensei: i would like to see kind Aramusha style of rework, my Idea is:
1- make his opener heavies 800 MS from the side and 900 from top.
2- make pomel strike usable from every side from the openers
3- make finisher light softfeint 400 ms, can be punished by dodge attacks but not by GB
4- make his dodge attack between 300 and 500 MS into the dodge, you can still target swap but not buffer.
5- make his unblockable 32 damage but give it frame advantage even in light hitstun
6- enjoy the new strong Kensei.
the thing is warden takes more skill to play than Kensei because wardens have to constantly mix their moves up in order to fight. Kensei is naturally good because he's designed as a mix up character and he is a highly skilled character in for honor. Kensei is one of the hardest to kill besides lawbringer in all of for honor
Unrelated, but I always love your choice of background music. A cultured soul you are
As a console player /: most of us don’t have the patience to wait out just getting schlacked by PC players who are simply faster at aiming and combo-ing. Part of that is understanding how to combo with a controller but many people just button mash instead of trying to actually think or strategize. So they get frustrated by their lack of ability to even compete and then just quit because it’s the easy way out
Console player here - The last time I've had people leave matches like this was before dedicated servers, idk what's going on
On console I have had countless games where after the first minute I would be the only person left on my team. Console is crazy m8
I love kensei, he is my main afterall. I used to think he was a sleeper pick and was secret good but nowadays I feel like im playing worse version of other characters.
I love the in depth analysis that you give on all of these ideas for how to tweak and make things better. Everyone else seems to be going in the same direction with their ideas, including Ubi, and it sucks because what you say, I feel, has a ton of merit. I also very much enjoy how much you enjoy the small details like animations and changes that have been made to degrade them.
Have you tried talking to anyone from the For Honor community board? I know you like the game, but I don't know how truly you are invested in seeing these changes.
I dont think they will talk to me anymore since i did those cultured thumbnails. I've been passionate about fh for 5 years xD
First of all, so dope to hear your response. I'm way more pumped than I should be. You make a good point, but what do you have to lose other than the Ubi interns being exposed to suggestive photo edits lol. I'm all for preserving their innocence, but maybe they could use the perspective of an artist lol. I didn't mean to imply you weren't invested, but I know talking to the sky with logic wears a person down.
Keep up the good videos. Big fan of your content and edits.