Evidence of a 3000 Year Old Magnetic Anomaly Inside Mesopotamian Clay Tablets

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  • @patrickryckman3341
    @patrickryckman3341 11 месяцев назад +145

    I love it when scientists are able to date more accurately. Good for them.

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee 11 месяцев назад +4

      It's better that way

    • @nocillis
      @nocillis 11 месяцев назад +16

      Yes because if a scientist can get a good date, then there's a good chance they'll end up having baby scientists. 😆

    • @ericv738
      @ericv738 11 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@nocillis There is only a 0.003% chance of reproduction occuring after a satisfactory initial date.

    • @cosmicraysshotsintothelight
      @cosmicraysshotsintothelight 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@ericv738 Ahh... a statistician... taking bets on whether he actually knows what he just said... Accurate dating as opposed to the rubber biscuit method...

    • @GeorgeZaharia
      @GeorgeZaharia 11 месяцев назад +3

      however, it turns out we are dating wrong...

  • @onbedoeldekut1515
    @onbedoeldekut1515 11 месяцев назад +249

    Fun fact.
    The 'ditto' symbol, two downward pointing lines to signify repeated lines of information, is first found in cuneiform tablets from thousands of years ago!
    We've always found writing pointlessly repetitive and time-wasting!

    • @ArtisticlyAlexis
      @ArtisticlyAlexis 11 месяцев назад +43

      These are why I appreciate the comment section on YT. You always have a small chance of getting an informative reply!

    • @magiofthoth
      @magiofthoth 11 месяцев назад +12

      @@ArtisticlyAlexis AGREED, dope facts

    • @pillarmenn1936
      @pillarmenn1936 11 месяцев назад +8

      Good to know that's a consistent opinion throughout our species lol

    • @lowwastehighmelanin
      @lowwastehighmelanin 11 месяцев назад +15

      What's more scary is how many people don't know this symbol at work and I have to explain it. We're in a professional context I have to wonder why they don't know it. Kind of concerning.

    • @xone-bonecusher4773
      @xone-bonecusher4773 11 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you Jesus. Carbon isn’t %100

  • @loreman7267
    @loreman7267 11 месяцев назад +123

    3000BC was the end of the Holocene Wam Period. Temperatures all over Africa were anything up to 4°C warmer than present, and rain forest covered a much larger area than today. The Sahara had been covered in grass during that period, too. As the desert spread, the First Dynasty of Egypt was just starting.

    • @lowwastehighmelanin
      @lowwastehighmelanin 11 месяцев назад +5

      Whoa!!!

    • @robertwilliamson922
      @robertwilliamson922 11 месяцев назад +6

      Quite right…. 👍🏼 👏🏼

    • @johngalt6525
      @johngalt6525 11 месяцев назад +16

      Climate change heresy . "How dare you" 😮😂

    • @oldie4210
      @oldie4210 11 месяцев назад +9

      Narmer’s original capital was probably Hierakonpolis in the south. Unlike Lower (i.e. northern) Egypt, Which consisted mainly of the flat, highly fertile Nile Delta, Upper (i.e. southern) Egypt covered more rugged land and probably bred a hardier race of people. Already by about 3200 B. C., the inhabitants of both Upper and Lower Egypt were at a fairly advanced state of Civilization. They could make copper as well as stone weapons. They could write. They were capable of producing works of art such as the Slate Palette of Narmer and the famous ivory Mace-head of Hierakonpolis, both of which are carved with scenes apparently depicting Narmer’s conquest of Lower Egypt.
      The Slate Palette of Narmer found at Hierakonpolis (c 3000 BC) is one of the most important historical documents discovered in Egypt. On one side there is a scene showing Narmer walking in procession, preceded by his attendants; on the same panel are rows of decapitated corpses of his enemies. Another section on the same side of the palette shows the pharaoh, in the form of a bull, demolishing an enemy fortress. On the reverse side, Narmer is shown in an attitude typical of that adopted by later pharaohs, with one hand grasping the hair of a kneeling captive, the other holding a club. Beneath this the king’s enemies are shown in flight. The date of the palette is between 3200 and 3000 BC and the primitive hieroglyphs on the stone spell out the name Nar-Mer.

    • @BlackGateofMordor
      @BlackGateofMordor 11 месяцев назад +12

      Global temperatures were 5 degrees warmer than the last glacial maximum, not the present. Even in the warmest century of the HCO (roughly 4500 BCE) temperatures were still about half a degree cooler than the present.

  • @zeivonzman
    @zeivonzman 11 месяцев назад +47

    "Goddamnit Amenhotet, go get more beer!"
    "But Sir, your tab is so large they started writing into the stones!"

  • @tinytim71301
    @tinytim71301 11 месяцев назад +72

    Love the plethora of topics from Anton.

  • @DraigBlackCat
    @DraigBlackCat 11 месяцев назад +85

    Geomagnetic anomalies might not be significant from a biological standpoint for humans, but if you are an animal like a pigeon who uses the earth's magnetic field to navigate then rapidly changing magnetic anomalies are hugely significant

    • @absalomdraconis
      @absalomdraconis 11 месяцев назад +10

      Considering that one of the early sharp upswings happened a bit after the late bronze age collapse, it's possible that the _cause_ actually could have somehow affected humanity, maybe through climate or vulcanism.

    • @tsmph777
      @tsmph777 11 месяцев назад

      You are a part of nature.

    • @noel3422
      @noel3422 11 месяцев назад +1

      Which may explain why so many species of birds inhabit so much of the planet

    • @johaquila
      @johaquila 11 месяцев назад +4

      Pigeons actually use a complex combination of factors for orientation. The magnetic field is just one of many factors, and how important it is differs from individual to individual. Other factors include landscape features (especially rivers and nowadays also major roads) and of course the sun. Changes in the magnetic field are unlikely to do much damage to the orientation of most pigeons, especially if it's something as simple as an inversion, which the pigeon can (presumably) easily detect and correct for. If the magnetic field gets stronger for a while, I would expect orientation by magnetic field temporarily to become easier, potentially making a few individuals struggle to adapt after the situation normalizes. In this case I wouldn't expect much of an overall impact, either.

    • @DraigBlackCat
      @DraigBlackCat 11 месяцев назад +2

      @johaquila So you agree that a change in magnetic field would affect biological life then.
      Things I didn't mention are that a stronger local magnet would push outwards more and change the angle of the field, that would definitely mess with pigeon navigation, but it would also interfere with light polarisation and that would also cause problems to some animals.
      One thing the study couldn't answer was how stable was the change in field - eg hourly or daily fluctuations would just give an averaged out figure.

  • @technoadmin
    @technoadmin 11 месяцев назад +35

    Another great video, thank you Anton!

  • @melorca1962
    @melorca1962 11 месяцев назад +2

    That chart at 6:21, showing the historical strength of earth's magnetic field, is interesting. I just watched this other video where a director of a museum was saying that C-14 dating is quite exact from our time to until about 1400 B.C, but that the offset grows larger with any organic materials older than approximately 1400 BC.
    The amount of radioactive C-14 in our atmosphere is affected by the amount of cosmic radiation we receive on the ground. And the cosmic radiation is normally blocked by our magnetosphere (stronger magnetic field equals less cosmic radiation). That chart shows that the magnetic field was even weaker before about 1400; so perhaps that has something to do with the larger offset in the C-14 dating.

  • @costrio
    @costrio 11 месяцев назад +139

    The archeologists are going to love this new technique as clay in pottery form is abundant in many places world wide. I wonder if history will have to be rewritten in some cases, perhaps?

    • @MetastaticMaladies
      @MetastaticMaladies 11 месяцев назад +39

      It’s always being rewritten, we make new discovers all the time. It’s ever changing and we are constantly learning more, it’s pretty exciting. The only thing I dislike is the people who jump to conclusions or conspiracy theories about aliens or high tech devices and such

    • @michaelpacnw2419
      @michaelpacnw2419 11 месяцев назад +50

      I doubt it. Archeologists have a pretty consistent track record of either attacking or completely ignoring any discovery that contradicts their sacred text books.

    • @MrBottlecapBill
      @MrBottlecapBill 11 месяцев назад +23

      @@michaelpacnw2419 That's how science works, until you come up with something that cannot be easily disproven. Then it becomes the new "truth" until the next upgrade.

    • @LustyLichKing
      @LustyLichKing 11 месяцев назад

      Not likely. Archaeologists must be some of the laziest people on the planet, because every time new discoveries might be made, they bury them (literally sealing off caves). What we have now is all we will have until someone with a private army goes rogue.

    • @kalrandom7387
      @kalrandom7387 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@michaelpacnw2419 Sadly true!

  • @silkyb9869
    @silkyb9869 11 месяцев назад +20

    Yes! More archeology please!!

  • @stevejohnson3357
    @stevejohnson3357 11 месяцев назад +12

    That was interesting. An amazing connection between an ancient civilization, the core of the earth and the sun.

  • @LukeVilent
    @LukeVilent 11 месяцев назад +6

    Sorry for correcting, Anton, but cuneiform tablets aren't pictograms. The cuneiform was a full-fledged writing system, and that since at least 2500 BCE. Anyway, my Assyriologist wife will love to see this episode!

  • @AuntLizzie
    @AuntLizzie 11 месяцев назад +24

    Thanks Anton. Really interesting. So much we don't know about our planet.

    • @carltaylor4942
      @carltaylor4942 11 месяцев назад

      It's amazing that, in the 21st century, this has just opened the door to re-writing most of history. Yet again. I'd love to see this applied to the Beaker People.

  • @tayzonday
    @tayzonday 11 месяцев назад +227

    If all my receipts were clay tabs, I’d need a dump truck to meet with my accountant 😳

    • @98.5Radio
      @98.5Radio 11 месяцев назад

      You already got a dumpy❤

    • @nannan3347
      @nannan3347 11 месяцев назад +14

      If all my receipts were clay tabs, I’d need an accountant with a fat dump truck 😳

    • @Unmannedair
      @Unmannedair 11 месяцев назад +6

      And that's why everybody switched to using trees

    • @molybdaen11
      @molybdaen11 11 месяцев назад +3

      But archeologists in 1000 jears could read them just fine and learn a lot from them.

    • @Legendary_Bleu
      @Legendary_Bleu 11 месяцев назад +2

      Chocolate tabs*

  • @DonCII
    @DonCII 11 месяцев назад +20

    Hello wonderful person

    • @Steve-si8hx
      @Steve-si8hx 11 месяцев назад +3

      Hi wonderful person

  • @rocroc
    @rocroc 11 месяцев назад +6

    Sumerian scribes were the first to use clay tablets to record transaction beginning 3200 BCE. Even before that tokens were used back to the earliest hunter gatherers who transitioned to farming in the Levant. It seems to me it would be relatively easy to calculate the dates of these transactions based on a combination of many factors. People who deal with the development of the tablets over centuries can probably tell you when and where the transactions were recorded based on the clay content, type of transaction, goods recorded, size of transaction and designated traders, etc.

    • @stargazer5784
      @stargazer5784 11 месяцев назад +3

      Don't you mean 3200 BCE, or even earlier? Ever watch 'The Fall of Civilizations' ? A cool channel.

    • @rocroc
      @rocroc 11 месяцев назад

      @@stargazer5784 - one of the most informative channels on RUclips. It should be seen by everyone and what I've written here comes from memories that began with videos shown on that channel. I suppose my favorites is The Sumerians - Fall of the First Cities.

  • @Bildgesmythe
    @Bildgesmythe 11 месяцев назад +385

    All the history we would like to know and we find a beer recite. Humans have not changed 😊

    • @Zeithri
      @Zeithri 11 месяцев назад +73

      One of the oldest written note we've found of the entire history, is one guy writing to say another guy lies about his clay quality 🤣

    • @papilonzo6668
      @papilonzo6668 11 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@Zeithri🤣🤣🤣

    • @starlitshadows
      @starlitshadows 11 месяцев назад +3

      😂😂

    • @bigdaddyyute6472
      @bigdaddyyute6472 11 месяцев назад +11

      Some think it is the most important artefact of our whole civilization

    • @TS-jm7jm
      @TS-jm7jm 11 месяцев назад +26

      ​@@Zeithrii thought it was about copper quality

  • @samsonsoturian6013
    @samsonsoturian6013 11 месяцев назад +10

    FYI Pottery is super common in archeology because clay is cheap and stone lasts a long time.

  • @troygarza5720
    @troygarza5720 11 месяцев назад +4

    We really don't deserve this man. Best educational content for adults on RUclips seriously.

    • @jessicabeall537
      @jessicabeall537 11 месяцев назад

      I wonder if he has an online wish list. Am I the only one that wants to make him a homemade gift with a card and thank him for his dedication?? Anton is adorable and keeps it real lol

  • @jvin248
    @jvin248 11 месяцев назад +1

    Studies revealed increased magnetic fields under seeds before planting and under plants (with the correct N vs S orientation) can dramatically increase or decrease plant vigor. Possibly very interesting to overlay this magnetic chart with historical famines and wars records.

  • @alecity4877
    @alecity4877 11 месяцев назад +5

    I love the video, but note, the use of iron and magnetite found in archaeological artifacts to date them corresponding to the magnetosphere is not a new dating technique, rather the innovation is being able to do it with much smaller traces of them rather than with larger objects which have these marks left by the magnetosphere in their crystal structure. So this is more of an innovation in an already existing dating technique. Being able to date sherds and other objects where the traces are so small will be incredibly useful for archaeologists.

  • @some_random_loser
    @some_random_loser 11 месяцев назад +31

    clay tablets weren't exactly chiseled in - the soft clay was impressed with a stylus, and then later, by accident or by design, were fired and hardened to their current durable form. and they didn't also include beer receipts - one of the most famous ones was a complaint tablet from someone named Nanni who complained about substandard copper and rude service provided by a merchant named Ea-Nasir.

    • @cosmicraysshotsintothelight
      @cosmicraysshotsintothelight 11 месяцев назад

      Yes, but no 'erasures' or 'additions' get made after they get written (impressed) upon. They harden up even before firing. Not many "tally tablets" around.

  • @The0ldg0at
    @The0ldg0at 11 месяцев назад +23

    Change in earth magnetosphere strength induce changes in high energy cosmic rays reaching the planet surface. IMO that would also induce changes in the rate of DNA mutiations which could impact our current dating of DNA evolution that is based on a constant rate of DNA mutations.

    • @Kargoneth
      @Kargoneth 11 месяцев назад +5

      You could say the same about areas with more natural ionizing radiation due to larger proportions of radioisotopes. Statistics works over the long term. Not every creature has the same lifespan, reproductive rate, environment, and susceptibility to radiation.

    • @brianorca
      @brianorca 11 месяцев назад +2

      The atmosphere also protects against cosmic rays. But the magnetic field is important to protect the atmosphere from solar wind erosion.

  • @haydenbsiegel
    @haydenbsiegel 11 месяцев назад +91

    Man, I love this channel and I still want to send this guy to space camp. I dunno why. I just feel like he'd enjoy the heck out of it! 😅

    • @bigpauliep6992
      @bigpauliep6992 11 месяцев назад +5

      He makes, on average, ,£5.5K a month from views alone, and that's without the ridiculous advertising revenue : pretty sure if he wanted to go somewhere, he'd go.

    • @haydenbsiegel
      @haydenbsiegel 11 месяцев назад

      @@bigpauliep6992 it wouldn't be as cool for him to be at space camp if he had to pay for it. I put $5 on the Kickstarter.

    • @Shahanshah.Shahin
      @Shahanshah.Shahin 10 месяцев назад

      Your profile picture reminds me of the Zoroastrianism symbol used extensively in the Parthian and Sasanian Empires.

    • @haydenbsiegel
      @haydenbsiegel 10 месяцев назад

      @@Shahanshah.Shahin It is from the game Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. A masterpiece of a video game.

  • @aabbccddeeffgg1234
    @aabbccddeeffgg1234 11 месяцев назад +10

    I have a question, could metal tools/fragments be dated the same way? Such as gold? If so i can see this be really valuable in dating seemingly out of place artefacts to see if they really belonged to that culture or was a inherited or traded piece.

    • @aabbccddeeffgg1234
      @aabbccddeeffgg1234 11 месяцев назад +8

      could this even be used to settle the debate on if some stonework really were casted in molds or mined from a quarry?

    • @Alondro77
      @Alondro77 11 месяцев назад +6

      Precious metals don't have a very strong paramagnetic moment. They really aren't affected by magnetic fields until those fields become so powerful they'd start killing things.
      Now, diatomic gold IS magnetic... but we're talking about just 2 gold atoms all alone. It occurs because each gold atom has an unpaired electron, which turn out to be more stable apart than forming a pair as often takes place with other elements. And thus, they take on opposing polarity, and thus the Au-Au cluster becomes paramagnetic.
      Interestingly, the stability of the unpaired electron of gold atoms is also why gold is quite unreactive, and this is also seen in the case of other noble metals such as platinum and rhodium.

    • @MrBottlecapBill
      @MrBottlecapBill 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@aabbccddeeffgg1234 Not really needed. If a culture wasn't capable of smelting iron and various other metals.....they certainly couldn't melt and mold stone. Stone needs FAR more heat. If the used a substance like concrete........the lack of grains and patterns that you get from naturally formed stone would be obviously apparent. That whole idea is so silly even basic logic can disprove it lol.

    • @MichaelWinter-ss6lx
      @MichaelWinter-ss6lx 11 месяцев назад +2

      No, stone is not melted with heat. A certain plant juice was used to form these strange looking blocks. It was not found how the stone was hardened again. Now, I dont know what to think of this. It is an explanation I can follow logically. Definitely better than the idea with heat. Best is, I keep it in mind, but I wont fight for it.

    • @sshreddderr9409
      @sshreddderr9409 11 месяцев назад

      @@aabbccddeeffgg1234this specific debate is settled. If you cast stone such as granite or basalt, it will chemically not be granite / basalt anymore after cooling, because the formation of it requires very slow cooling and and high pressures for a geologically significant time. It would look dark and glassy, not like it looked before. you also could not crush it an make concrete out of it, cause this too would not result in the same look, strength and chemical bonding of the original stone.
      But the stones still are bent and have shapes that show that they indeed were soft and moldable once. The only solution to this is a currently unknown chemical process that softens them without heat. From the information available, it seems to be an unknown type of chelation, meaning biological molecules that are capable of temporarily reconfiguring chemical bonds in a way that makes the stone soft. such processes are know to be used by plant roots to dissolve iron bonds in stones to dig into them and access the minerals, and those chemicals are used as fertilizers for depleted soils and to flush heavy metals out of the body.
      ancient mythology also talks about stone softening, even some indigenous people today say that chemicals were used.
      Another concrete proof of this being a liquid with a chemical softening effect is the polished drops on the unpolished underside of the lid of a granite box in the serapeum in egypt. you have rough unpolished stone, but then polished spots that look like tiny drops, as if they accidentally dropped on the stone while trying to polish other surfaces by applying the fluid to it. there is even one box that has a fractured polished surface that show that the polish penetrated the stone a bit, proving that it was a fluid that chemically altered the arrangement of the molecules, cause if it was a mechanical polishing process, it could not show a penetration layer inside the rock. many polished egyptian statues and surfaces also look like some fluid penetrated into them, smoothing them off in the process, similar to coatings that are applied to wood, which penetrate into it and make the surface colors change slightly, and make they surfaces look smoothed off. some of the round drill cores also have impossible penetration rates and rough, big spiral groves, which suggests unreasonable violence inconsistent with precision work, but the same discarded drill cores are also polished and smoothed of, which makes only sense if the process of cutting it out accidentally polished the removed waste, which is consistent with them using the chemicals to soften it and then mechanically drilling into it, and the hardening afterwards accidentally left the smooth surface, which was at other times intentionally used as polish, or even just used to make stone sculpting effortless.
      all other possibilities can be discarded cause they are not possible and dont match the details, marks and peculiarities shown on artifacts. Im convinced that it would be very easy to rediscover this process. We could just take plants that live on soil that is naturally rich in the type of stone that is used or even live directly on those rocks if possible, maybe even microbes or fungi, and those are almost guaranteed to produce one or multiple chelates that could be used for this type of work. likely it was a mixture of different ones to achieve different degrees of softness depending on the work required.
      another approach would be to look at the chemical structure of granite and other softened rock types, note which chemical bonds they have in common and which ones are the strongest ones and provide the most loss in solidity if dissolved or reconfigured, and then try to find a chelate that can target that specific bond. Likely they have already been discovered, but there is no interest or investment in this type of science of very little. googling the topic of chelates makes it very clear that its not a topic of commercial or scientific interest

  • @shanechesser
    @shanechesser 11 месяцев назад +1

    recent studies have shown that changes in the magnetosphere, DOES have major effects on all biological life.

  • @capitalistdingo
    @capitalistdingo 11 месяцев назад +4

    8:35 In this day and age a disruption to the power and Internet at the wrong time might very well cause death or injury for some. Or just cause a lost job and a ruined life/marriage. I’ve seen marriages that ended because of the early disruption from COVID-quarantine and work stoppages and such. It’s great to get more dating data and I’d rather we knew more about these magnetic anomalies than we do to mitigate the damage but I must say I am uneasy seeing those wild fluctuations so recent in our past.

    • @Ki_Adi_Mundi
      @Ki_Adi_Mundi 11 месяцев назад +1

      In this day and age a disruption to the power and Internet at _any_ time will absolutely cause massive death and injury the likes of which would require decades to rebuild from.

  • @baomao7243
    @baomao7243 11 месяцев назад

    6:27 A wonderful compendium - a single chart summarizing the msmts and incl. a curve fit. Thorough.

  • @jonloomis5210
    @jonloomis5210 11 месяцев назад +6

    Fascinating. I am very curious as to what the long term implications could be for the surface, particularly for the amazon rain forest should it continue to shift. Also kind of unrelated but made me wonder if chloroplasts can somehow adapt to use emissions with higher frequencies than UV for photosynthesis in a kind of extremophile.

  • @lizafrench8455
    @lizafrench8455 11 месяцев назад +1

    They spray aluminum oxide for cloud seeding around the usa and was used during the usa involvement in vietnam.
    States have multi million budgets

  • @HarryONeil
    @HarryONeil 11 месяцев назад +15

    Hilarious!😂 Beer has a very interesting history itself. Thanks Anton! ❤🎉

  • @KimiPersonal
    @KimiPersonal 7 месяцев назад +1

    I wonder if gravity was different back when dinosaurs were so huge. Anton would you please do a video about this? Can gravity change on a planet over time?

  • @bretbell2418
    @bretbell2418 11 месяцев назад +3

    Good one Anton!!!

  • @johnsamson9889
    @johnsamson9889 11 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome show Anton. How interesting that these clay artifacts can tell us so much about the earths past. Wonderful!

  • @fastradioburst253
    @fastradioburst253 11 месяцев назад +24

    It's called the electromagnetic force because magnetism arises from electrical current, i.e. flowing charged particles. Note that the electromagnetic force is many orders of magnitude larger than gravitational forces. It is, and always has been, an electrical universe.

    • @robbirose7032
      @robbirose7032 11 месяцев назад +5

      Wrong

    • @fastradioburst253
      @fastradioburst253 11 месяцев назад

      Your brilliant, insightful retort is mitigated only by the degree of your retardation. Nice job, sweetie.@@robbirose7032

    • @WideCuriosity
      @WideCuriosity 11 месяцев назад +3

      Electrical waves and magnetic waves create each other.
      Gravity isn't a force.

    • @fastradioburst253
      @fastradioburst253 11 месяцев назад +5

      This is a fair point to consider, although I'm not certain I agree yet with the notion that gravity is not a force. I know that's the explanation given to make Einstein right, but it still seems like a thumb on the scale to me. I don't really know because no one really knows, contrary to what the mainstream claims. @@WideCuriosity

    • @samsmith2635
      @samsmith2635 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@WideCuriosity Gravity, Magnetism and Light are like one force in different states, like matter has solid,liquid and gas, they all can interact and distort one another.

  • @andycordy5190
    @andycordy5190 11 месяцев назад +2

    As a potter with a profound interest in ancient objects, I'm interested in how this technique might be used when objects under test do not already have a specified date.
    I wonder if there were older or more recent spikes in the magnetic field that they might have an impact on the contents of the clay.
    Magnetism is not usually regarded as a one way mechanism like a switch, so what's to stop other magnetic incidents from undoing what one specific event has caused?

    • @gobblinal
      @gobblinal 11 месяцев назад

      My understanding is that while in the clay, the iron is fairly stable, but once exposed to heat, the iron "aligns" with the existing magnetic field. Once the clay is fired and is now effectively "stone", it's much harder to change the iron. I suppose it's possible under enough heat to turn the "rock" into magma, but at that point, it's just a lump and unless it's known to be an ex-tablet, there's no reason to test as it could simply be a millions-of-years-old rock from a volcano. Technically I'm sure they could do this with any pottery or perhaps fired bricks (do they do that to bricks for making homes?) but without some indication of the date of the firing of the clay, it's really hard to judge. Perhaps in extremely ancient fired clay (campfire on a river bank?) they might use stratification to identify what's in the dirt above and below the sample and use that to get an approximate age. SCIENCE!

  • @Reoh0z
    @Reoh0z 11 месяцев назад +3

    They were right to check, even if had been the same. That would have proof of the same, rather than an assumption of the same.

  • @samsmith2635
    @samsmith2635 11 месяцев назад +2

    Hello from under the South American Anomaly! Love History and Science coming together

  • @yaeldragwyla8170
    @yaeldragwyla8170 11 месяцев назад +37

    If we are measuring from the present, 3000 BC is *5,000* years ago, not *3,000." Other than that, this is a fascinating report on new dating techniques not depending on either organic matter or radioactivity. 🙂

  • @sharonjuniorchess
    @sharonjuniorchess 11 месяцев назад +2

    In addition to all those clay tablets detailing beer receipts and other administrative minutiae was one showing pythagorean triplets which was used to solve trigonometric problems in a novel and different way which confirms their understanding of pythagoras's theorem about 1,000 years before he was born. So it really should be called the ancient Babylonian theorem.

  • @kennyk5150
    @kennyk5150 11 месяцев назад +3

    I another 7000 years our descendants will be wondering if we had a technological civilization the same way we wonder about our ancestors.

  • @MichaelWinter-ss6lx
    @MichaelWinter-ss6lx 11 месяцев назад +1

    Beer must be as old as HomoSapiens. Perhaps the Neanderthals tought us this. Beer and bread. Dont need farms. The grains were collected while walking on. In these old Turkish sites was much evidence for both. The science of burnt food in/on old potterie is very young and will give us many future surprizes too.

  • @DudeSilad
    @DudeSilad 11 месяцев назад +15

    I wonder if they could check to see if the pyramids were affected by this. Or artifacts found around Giza. May give us more evidence that the pyramids are older than the experts claim.

    • @MetastaticMaladies
      @MetastaticMaladies 11 месяцев назад +11

      What other evidence leads you to believe they are older than what they claim? There’s a ton of evidence that point to their age, which the entire field has agreed on the current consensus.

    • @Veronica.John10-10
      @Veronica.John10-10 11 месяцев назад +10

      ​​@@MetastaticMaladiesthat's not true at all, there is a TON of controversy and evidence saying that they're much older. Or at least the Sphinx is.

    • @MrBottlecapBill
      @MrBottlecapBill 11 месяцев назад +9

      No, the key reason pottery works is because the substances have to be heated to extreme heat within magnetic fields to record those conditions. Pottery is fired in a kiln........so it works. The building blocks of the pyramids are not fired so they wont retain that information. Unless they're volcanic rock in which case they'll record the magnetic sphere at the time of the rocks creation, not the building of the pyramid. Although.........a lot of the rock mining did use fire to heat and rapidly cool stone in order to fracture harder stone to remove it easier. So if that fire was hot enough some of the stones or shards might retain some trace information. They just used normal wood fires in open air however so it may never have been hot enough. Who knows though there may be some items out there that did get hot enough. That would be amazing.

    • @SoulThrashingBlackSorcery
      @SoulThrashingBlackSorcery 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@MetastaticMaladiesthe pyramids could be much older. These theories often point to geological evidence, such as erosion patterns that indicate exposure to long periods of rainfall, which hasn't occurred in the Giza region since the last Ice Age (ending around 10,000 BC). Other arguments include interpretations of astronomical alignments and ancient texts.

    • @michaelpacnw2419
      @michaelpacnw2419 11 месяцев назад +8

      Too many archeologist have massive egos and have staked their careers and published books on their current interpretation of when the pyramids were built. They will ignore any evidence to the contrary, and attack anyone suggesting an older date. With new dating methods we could easily tell the date the pyramids were built. Luminescence dating is a relatively new method that dates the last time a stone was exposed to the sun. All they need to do is drill a core sample on the seam of two stone blocks (so you get a sample of the block edges right on the seam that's not seen daylight since they were placed together) and you'd have a true date of construction... but I'm not holding my breath. Too many people have too much to lose if they're proven much older than we think.

  • @richardssherman2146
    @richardssherman2146 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for bringing us new relevant information and discoveries. There is no other channel like Antons on youtube. 👍🏻

  • @ezekielbrockmann114
    @ezekielbrockmann114 11 месяцев назад +5

    _"Suck it, Gilgamesh!"_
    - Bender Bending Rodriguez

  • @ninamironovitsch
    @ninamironovitsch 8 месяцев назад

    The first tablet shown is a proto-cuneiform tablet, in the later epochs the signs became more stylized and were written really in wedges (Lat. cuneus). And on this tablet, the hieroglyphs are still rather pictorial. So, in the lower left corner one can recognize a drawing of a human head with a bowl, a hieroglyph which was used to express the word "eat".

  • @elfpimp1
    @elfpimp1 11 месяцев назад +4

    Now we know where the term "Beer Tab" comes from. 😂

    • @Fuzzmo147
      @Fuzzmo147 11 месяцев назад

      I couldn’t be arsed carrying that home, it’d get dumped.
      Unless it was tax deductible 😂

  • @Oliveir51
    @Oliveir51 11 месяцев назад +1

    Anton you remember me of John Clark an excellent physicist from Berkeley. He dared to present what he considered as a private joke in a conference about non equilibrium superconductivity. His topic was chaos in Nil water level as measured for over 5000 years by Egyptians...

  • @MonographicSingleheaded
    @MonographicSingleheaded 11 месяцев назад +3

    Thank You Human :)

  • @mottie85
    @mottie85 11 месяцев назад +1

    Very interesting. So much to learn from ancient tablets. Keep your receipts, everyone!

  • @anim8torfiddler871
    @anim8torfiddler871 11 месяцев назад +15

    Recalling that magnetism is a phenomenon INSEPARABLE from Electricity, It seems logical to think that the Strength of our Planet's magnetic field could be enhanced by certain variations in the SUN's activities: CMEs, Streaming particles from events originating from various regions of the Sun's layers, or from the Corona.

    • @fastradioburst253
      @fastradioburst253 11 месяцев назад +3

      You are correct, of course. It's worth noting this same fact is also conveniently overlooked in the matter of large-scale magnetic forces found throughout the cosmos. Why is that? Because the conventional model relies on gravity as the primary force for the structure and ordering of the universe. The reality is, that it's the electromagnetic force. It's an electric universe.

    • @longline
      @longline 11 месяцев назад +1

      I don't understand. Our fields are the motion of iron in the core. How big would solar ejecta have to be to leave significant lasting record above the the baseline of the variable core dynamics?
      Decades long spikes. Are we hypothesising decades long solar flares? Of that magnitude? I've not heard anything like that from star experts yet, but I might have missed something? I'm very interested to read your sources if you could share?

    • @Kargoneth
      @Kargoneth 11 месяцев назад +2

      @longline I suspect itxs bots patting each other on the back. I just reported 20 of them for peddling some cryptocurrency in this comment section.

    • @longline
      @longline 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Kargoneth You are the civil service we all need, thank you for your labour.

    • @Ki_Adi_Mundi
      @Ki_Adi_Mundi 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@Kargoneth They're just observers who are a little suspicious, that's all.

  • @DrToddles
    @DrToddles 11 месяцев назад +2

    So when clay is fired into pots, iron oxidrd retain a magnetic field effect, not described, that indicates the strength of a global.or local magnetic field? How does that work? Thanks.

    • @stargazer5784
      @stargazer5784 11 месяцев назад +1

      When a substance is maliable and then hardens, magnetic field directions are recorded in the ferrous materials within the substance. This occurs especially well within volcanic deposits.

  • @FareigX
    @FareigX 11 месяцев назад +3

    Oh wow Google allowing itself to admit the magnetosphere jumps around but wait where is the disclaimers

    • @Endlesspathable
      @Endlesspathable 11 месяцев назад +1

      I had a comment IMMEDIATELY removed regarding biology (aviary, insect and sea creature movement/migrations based on geomagnetics, along with a single word I won't restate & channel).
      So yes, I am surprised they allowed this topic by Anton, but that is because he only skirts the far edges of reasons for the anomalies~
      True, accurate science is not YT's friend~

  • @DominicRyanOsborne
    @DominicRyanOsborne 11 месяцев назад +1

    1. So what are the options where the magnetic anomaly isn’t caused by earths magnetic field but by surface level events or something in orbit
    2. Wouldn’t there be notable changes in biological entities that use magnetic fields?

  • @Typ-oh57
    @Typ-oh57 11 месяцев назад +5

    That’s is the exact time. That they have dated the iron meteor that hit Greenland lodged itself miles below the surface. Part of it was found in a museum and then traced back to the impact crater. This giant meteor smacked about the same time, and could also be potentially what caused flood. a giant iron meteor breaking into the earths magnetic field might count for one of those such events wouldn’t you say?

    • @Typ-oh57
      @Typ-oh57 11 месяцев назад +3

      Sidenote, one of the pillars at Göbekli Tepe, the one with the animal, and the meteor has also been dated to that time.

    • @coreyalexander6465
      @coreyalexander6465 11 месяцев назад

      It’s not a coincidence

  • @carltond.bullington720
    @carltond.bullington720 11 месяцев назад

    Fascinating presentation, visuals are pretty cool to. Thanks, hope to see more.

  • @popacristian2056
    @popacristian2056 11 месяцев назад +3

    Could the Tablets from Tartaria, Romania, which were dated 5700 years before our era, according to the skeleton next to which they were discovered, also be dated by this method?

  • @Kreln1221
    @Kreln1221 11 месяцев назад +1

    *From what I can tell from the animation paused at the **3:15** mark, the **_South Atlantic Magnetic Anomaly_** is located over the gap between the two giant masses imbedded in the mantle...* 🤔

  • @cyrus8886
    @cyrus8886 11 месяцев назад +6

    All things lead to mesopotamia

    • @ruthnovena40
      @ruthnovena40 11 месяцев назад

      It is what is researched the most. India and South America and other places. existed. field itself is small with few people and the world is big.

  • @samedwards6683
    @samedwards6683 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks so much for creating and sharing this educational and entertaining video. Great job.

  • @ovoj
    @ovoj 11 месяцев назад +3

    Is it possible to find out if these animalous locations are related to pyramic structures?

    • @jameshall1300
      @jameshall1300 11 месяцев назад

      Pyramic structures?
      Did you mean pyramid, like some kind of ancient aliens crap?

    • @evancole6863
      @evancole6863 11 месяцев назад

      Be that as it may, quartz crystals were found in the granite. Mechanical stress causes piezoelectric effects on quartz. A power source for a power generator.

    • @jameshall1300
      @jameshall1300 11 месяцев назад

      @@evancole6863 do you even realize how little power that would be? You probably couldn't run an alarm clock, much less anything significant.

    • @evancole6863
      @evancole6863 11 месяцев назад

      @@jameshall1300 if you say so lol

    • @jameshall1300
      @jameshall1300 11 месяцев назад

      @@evancole6863 it's not me that's saying so. The piezoelectric effect is not very powerful. It's just a buzzword pseudo-scientists use to try to wave away reality.

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 11 месяцев назад +1

    Might those changes have affected the climate in the 12th century BC, or thereabouts? If they affected growing conditions, they might explain the Bronze Age collapse.

  • @Thesilverrat
    @Thesilverrat 11 месяцев назад +5

    It's only a matter of time before Anton is a believer in the Younger Dryas Impact hypothesis and boy will that be a day to remember.

  • @jimcurtis9052
    @jimcurtis9052 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 😎👍

  • @ricoma6037
    @ricoma6037 11 месяцев назад +4

    I took some metal from an old car we had, pounded it into a body suit. I magnetized it and put the suit on. I then attached myself to the refrigerator. I had my girlfriend hand me beers. I eventually had to teach her how to demagnitize me. I fell to the floor and ran to the bathroom. I explained that the human bladder has a finite capacity to hold liquid. She left that night wiser and I learned that not everybody likes science like I do. 😊

  • @GriffVibrantle-yh3ye
    @GriffVibrantle-yh3ye 11 месяцев назад

    Good stuff on the thumbnail, i remember finding that same image after googling the earth poles a couple years ago

  • @rezadaneshi
    @rezadaneshi 11 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you Anton. My mind 10 minutes ago looks so small to me now looking back. I were possibly hasty in dismissing Bermuda Triangle and it’s rumors… Looks like learning I was wrong dismissing baby with the bathwater, was a way for me to grow conceptually now with science. It’s the real revelation without going south while describing it. 🙏❤️

    • @thejhonnie
      @thejhonnie 11 месяцев назад +1

      bathwater?

    • @rezadaneshi
      @rezadaneshi 11 месяцев назад

      @@thejhonnie I didn't see the merit (baby) in my certainty of dismissing "Bermuda triangle" as a myth and discarded it with it's "bathwater". Heartless,) Real revelation, if you were interested, is two fold, re-examine what I had dismissed similarly, if and when it comes up and, grand prize goes to "I'm very science rooted forever searching for being wrong! And I grow learning why for my only reason to be here."
      Ps. Bermuda Triangle probably is path of least resistance for anomalies magnetic lines to funnel discharging into earth.

    • @WaterShowsProd
      @WaterShowsProd 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@thejhonnie There's an expression: Don't throw the baby away with the bathwater. It means not to cast away something you ought to keep along with something you need to discard.

  • @ElElwe
    @ElElwe 11 месяцев назад +1

    Man, great video, as always, keep up the good work.

  • @broken1persona
    @broken1persona 11 месяцев назад +5

    It's always nice to see mainstream science catch up to what conspiracy theorists have been saying for years. Just don't mention the evidence for how the weak the magnetosphere is getting now, because that's crazy talk.

    • @GrimJackal
      @GrimJackal 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, conspiracy theorists: 1, science: uncountable wins. For every thing the cranks say which coincidentally can sort of be construed as accurate they get a thousand things wrong, but let's not count those.

    • @broken1persona
      @broken1persona 11 месяцев назад

      @@GrimJackal Unless the conspiracy theorists are just the ignored scientist and researchers that collectively agree that the narrative on certain accepted ideas are spun purely to the benefit of a few powerful people and organizations. Money is more important than science.

  • @tennesseecopperhead7874
    @tennesseecopperhead7874 11 месяцев назад

    Man, I love your channel, Anton.

  • @chad0x
    @chad0x 11 месяцев назад +3

    Carbon dating seems like woo to me. We only find out the age of the material, not the age of the writing on it.

  • @stefaniasmanio5857
    @stefaniasmanio5857 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Anton! This is a real treat! ❤❤❤ this was so interesting! And as usual very clear and complete! Thank you so much! I'm sharing it with my history collegues at school! ❤❤❤❤

  • @thiscommentsdeleted
    @thiscommentsdeleted 11 месяцев назад +4

    third

  • @SteveSiegelin
    @SteveSiegelin 11 месяцев назад

    It makes sense considering we have always used commerce since the day we learned how to homestead areas of being nomadic. Beer was one of the first alcohols we figured out and it was also one of the first antiseptics used to sterilize water. Sometimes it was safer to drink the beer than it was the water. What blows my mind is that we are probably looking at a bar or restaurant order to a brewery. The amount ordered makes me think it was for a venue. I find this extremely entertaining and quite frankly amazing that we can find sales records from that long ago. It makes you wonder exactly how much history we are missing for humans to get to the point where they are recording sales transactions that far back in history. Of course I am not saying there was some kind of advanced civilization, if there was we wouldn't be leaving our receipts on Stone. I am merely stating the fact that the oceans used to be 20 m below the level they are now so imagine the amount of records that are still buried on the seafloor from when our early seaside towns and cities were flooded during the rise after the last ice age. We were already building structures and traversing large swaths of water at that time in history.

  • @marginbuu212
    @marginbuu212 11 месяцев назад +3

    Aliens

    • @jimmyzhao2673
      @jimmyzhao2673 11 месяцев назад +1

      It's never aliens. 👽

    • @Auroral_Anomaly
      @Auroral_Anomaly 11 месяцев назад +1

      Bro watches the history channel.💀

    • @thingonathinginathing
      @thingonathinginathing 11 месяцев назад +3

      I mean have yall ever heard of David Grusch, this isn't a laughable conspiracy any longer but an objective part of everyday reality.

    • @jimmyzhao2673
      @jimmyzhao2673 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@thingonathinginathing Is Grusch they guy behind the 'Mexican Aliens' ?

    • @Auroral_Anomaly
      @Auroral_Anomaly 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@thingonathinginathing The laughable part is how willing people are to just parrot online what just some dude says with no evidence.

  • @jamessolberg6909
    @jamessolberg6909 11 месяцев назад

    Anton, I hope you and your family are well. Best wishes from Washington State, USA.
    You are awesome

  • @theodoredesmarais4219
    @theodoredesmarais4219 11 месяцев назад

    You are a MOST Wonderful Person !!! Another very interesting Astronomical / Historical observation. Love it ! Thx Again !

  • @Randy-jl4sf
    @Randy-jl4sf 11 месяцев назад

    It'd be great to see the graph up to present as it might show correlates that could be interesting.

  • @gordonwallin2368
    @gordonwallin2368 11 месяцев назад +1

    "Some dudes beer tab". Can anyone imagine what that guy's reaction would be to that!! Great stuff, Anton. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada

  • @dru4670
    @dru4670 11 месяцев назад +1

    I wonder if they will redate the granite pots found in Gisa, Ancient Egypt using this technique?

  • @hieronymus9
    @hieronymus9 11 месяцев назад +1

    The tablets shown at the beginning of the video are actually about 2000 years older than the anomaly spikes!

  • @0oDaMange888
    @0oDaMange888 11 месяцев назад

    this is a cool find Anton! I forgot about this

  • @tigwhite883
    @tigwhite883 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm sleepy but my addiction to knowledge won't let me go to bed.

  • @i.joannav.c1994
    @i.joannav.c1994 11 месяцев назад

    Very short. Extemely interesting. Great host. Still dont comprehend this magnetic field issue…!

  • @yahdood6015
    @yahdood6015 11 месяцев назад +2

    Everyone distracted by beer receipts, ignoring the huge importance of this topic. Look deeply into repeated historical geomagnetic excursions, their catastrophic effects and the cycles of our sun.

  • @sideeggunnecessary
    @sideeggunnecessary 11 месяцев назад +1

    Did you hear about the sumarian tablet with the Pythagorean theorem on it?

  • @iksRoald
    @iksRoald 11 месяцев назад +1

    Birds would react, and astrononomers, as auroras would be more commons, so humans would certainly notice

  • @maryc267
    @maryc267 11 месяцев назад

    Very interesting. Thank you Anton.

  • @carterinomata9418
    @carterinomata9418 11 месяцев назад

    your videos are awesome! you always deliver great content.

  • @dangeary2134
    @dangeary2134 11 месяцев назад +2

    I swear.
    If things go really far south to the point of civilization just destroying itself…
    I’m going to impress upon my son to leave clay tablets somewhere that describe the more benign things we have.
    Cars, aircraft, boats…
    Then the other stuff, too.
    Things like radios, magnetism, and even electronics.
    Drawings of heavy equipment, descriptions of our tools…
    A daunting task?
    Nah. He is a carbon copy of me.
    He knows what I would do if I was his age, and things fell apart.

  • @danrazART
    @danrazART 11 месяцев назад

    Indus Valley civilization was really important in that time period.
    Imagine the technology that might have existed but lost now.
    Those giant vase based battery cells are fantastic examples of what might be possible

  • @familyshare3724
    @familyshare3724 11 месяцев назад

    Fascinating! Thanks Anton.

  • @TDogsYard
    @TDogsYard 11 месяцев назад

    ‘Magnetite leaves behind a fingerprint of Earth’s magnetosphere’! 🤯 It’s one of my favorite minerals, no wonder it feels so good holding an octahedron magnetite. Considering the instruments we use, as well as our bodies; to detect the earths frequency can only get nice clear readings out at Sea or in the vast wilderness where there is no human made EM ‘smog’ or radiation fields!

  • @jakebrodskype
    @jakebrodskype 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have to wonder if there any correlation between these events and Miyaki events?

  • @cymacymulacra2301
    @cymacymulacra2301 8 месяцев назад

    neat chart! see the big inflection at the start of the Bronze Age collapse around 1700BCE (Harappa destruction.) Then another big runup starting with the razing of Troy and the Exodus (1250BCE).

  • @FourOf92000
    @FourOf92000 11 месяцев назад +1

    5:40
    Levantine Iron age GeoMagnetic Anomaly
    ...we finally know what it is

  • @markcentral
    @markcentral 11 месяцев назад

    Looking at that graph at 6:51, the few number of samples and size of those error bars don’t look very convincing

  • @stevenpatzner6962
    @stevenpatzner6962 11 месяцев назад

    Interesting & Informative! Thank you!

  • @davidtruman4590
    @davidtruman4590 11 месяцев назад +1

    How do you know that changes to the magnetosphere/plasmasphere don't affect living organisms? That's a very big assumption with no empirical evidence to back it up.

  • @lulucolby8882
    @lulucolby8882 11 месяцев назад

    Very interesting video Thanks again for the great content!