Top 10 Good Games That Have Fallen Flat

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  • Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024

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  • @mattgrosso
    @mattgrosso Год назад +165

    I’ve always thought that Zee seemed like a really nice guy but after years of watching his videos this was my favorite one. It’s clear from the way he talks about these experiences that he has a very high emotional quotient and really wants the people he is playing with to enjoy themselves. Just great.

    • @soogymoogi
      @soogymoogi Год назад +55

      A bit of a personal story, I got stressed out and actually started to tear up during a play of Search for Planet X at one of the Retreats. I excused myself from the table to cry in the bathroom and just get my feelings out, and Zee saw me crying, offered to walk outside and talk with me so I wouldn't be alone. Loaned me his handkerchief even.
      So yeah I really feel what you said here, and the experience not only gave me a really positive opinion of Zee but the DT events in general.

    • @mattgrosso
      @mattgrosso Год назад +12

      @@soogymoogi Wow, what a nice anecdote.

    • @darinherrick9224
      @darinherrick9224 Год назад +3

      Love Zee. Always entertaining informative and nice.

    • @IMatchoNation
      @IMatchoNation Год назад +12

      We don't call him "The People's Champion" for nothing!

    • @markusbiewer2756
      @markusbiewer2756 Год назад +4

      @@soogymoogi Wow, thank you for sharing this story. I hope I can someday meet Zee (and the rest of the DT crew) in person.

  • @stephenball2108
    @stephenball2108 Год назад +252

    One time I went to a local game night and people were like, “what should we play” and a guy said he brought Carcassonne, so we said that sounds like a good start. We started playing and then realized he was handing us tiles from a gigantic basket. It was basically every tile that had been printed in the history of the game all thrown into the same basket. The game took 2.5 hours.

    • @evandercaldwell9993
      @evandercaldwell9993 Год назад +11

      Hahahaha 😂😂

    • @bumfuzzel4512
      @bumfuzzel4512 Год назад +1

      Wow. Lol

    • @foxbear60
      @foxbear60 Год назад

      That is why I ask detailed questions before we start a game, especially when someone new wants to lead it.

    • @stephenball2108
      @stephenball2108 Год назад +5

      I asked someone who was there if they remembered and they said it was the guys birthday so we let him choose

    • @foxbear60
      @foxbear60 Год назад +11

      @@stephenball2108 - I mean I guess that works once per year.

  • @MattiMo
    @MattiMo Год назад +198

    Tom: "when I was a kid I was the board game King"
    Zee: "Tom, you're still the board game King"
    Tom: "No, it's not the same thing"
    Zee: "what do you want to be like some sort of emperor?"
    So good, Zee had me rolling in this one

    • @mattvucu6706
      @mattvucu6706 Год назад +7

      I would like to add, Tom is still a big kid… in the good ways

    • @ghyslainabel
      @ghyslainabel Год назад +4

      It is in chapter "Tom 4".

    • @dorkangel1076
      @dorkangel1076 Год назад +2

      I find Zee's solo reviews a little dry, but he's my definite favourite in a group setting. I feel he's a bit like me who works best with someone to react off.

    • @SirCanuckelhead
      @SirCanuckelhead Год назад +1

      I like to call that type catalysts. Not much happens on their own but once you mix it in with something!

  • @googletubesucks
    @googletubesucks Год назад +85

    This is my favorite type of top ten video. While I do enjoy the "Top 10 of a certain genre" lists, I really enjoy the lists that talk about experiences had while gaming. I love hearing all the different stories.

  • @leew6537
    @leew6537 Год назад +44

    I remember teaching my Polish wife Cluedo. She went into her first room and it was the room in question and she guessed correctly the murderer and implement. She said it was a dumb gain and we never played again.

    • @MrPorko2c
      @MrPorko2c 8 месяцев назад +2

      This doesn’t make sense. It sounds like you played the game wrong. If you propose a theory in the game you don’t win the game if you happen to guess it right. You just get information and keep playing.
      Either that or your wife walked into the first room on the first turn and decided to try and solve the crime with no clues? If she did then that sounds like she tried to ruin the game on purpose.

    • @leew6537
      @leew6537 8 месяцев назад +6

      Just reread rules and we played it correctly.

  • @JohnWII
    @JohnWII Год назад +90

    I really loved this episode. It shows a side of gaming you really don't see that much where sometimes you really just have a bad night. It can be hard when you're first starting out if you run into a couple of the situations talked about here (especially if you might be the person causing it) and then come away wondering how anyone can enjoy this hobby. Like you mentioned in the video this was kind of like therapy, nice to know that I'm not alone in having some really bad gaming experiences!

  • @flawed1
    @flawed1 Год назад +27

    I played codenames pictures once and my teammate insisted on scrutinizing every single picture no matter how obvious the clue was. If the clue was water and there was a fish on the board he would look at every single bit of shadow and shading saying that it maybe looked like a wave. When I kept suggesting we pick the fish he would just say “ you can’t just guess. You have to think about it“

  • @petercsm5769
    @petercsm5769 Год назад +27

    Mike's story about Scythe reminded me of wanting to just play the mini-games in Mario Party with friends so the friend who owned it went about unlocking them all, which was done by playing or beating the existing mini-games in certain ways or for a set amount of times. After he had unlocked all the mini-games we all got together to play them, he couldn't help but destroy us, and we never played it again.

  • @eggenberg4ever
    @eggenberg4ever Год назад +16

    Great episode folks. Zee's arm-scoop "what's for dinner" throwing in of the towel had me in stitches.

  • @Obafofia
    @Obafofia Год назад +16

    The "go make dinner" line had me rolling XD
    My husband had the same experience teaching Ticket to Ride to his parents. It got so bad, they had to play with open cards, and it still took over 2 hours. And it wasn't even a full TtR, it was Ticket to Ride London!

  • @dirk_gently
    @dirk_gently Год назад +5

    I tried to teach my in-laws Love Letter. These are people who play lots of classic card games, some are so complicated that I have no idea how they work. They refused to try love letter since it was "too complicated" and they didn't want to learn anything new. I hope I'm not like that at their age.

  • @WeAreGamersYTube
    @WeAreGamersYTube Год назад +10

    This was probably the best top 10 list of the year. A variety of games that don't get talked about too much. Plus, similar to much older top 10s where they used to have this type back and forth banter and additional stories. It's great!

  • @SirRouga
    @SirRouga Год назад +19

    Loved the list, enjoy listening to gaming experiences and knowing other people share the same sort of events. My fallen flat game was actually a game of Dead of Winter, the person that was teaching us the game did a brief overview of the game. Then gave out secret objectives and realized he was the traitor so he stopped teaching the game. We thought he just didn't know the game that well and we had to figure out how to really play until we got that surprise.

    • @Patronux
      @Patronux Год назад +11

      oof. If you are teaching a game, you probably want the other players to like the game, you should always put having a good experience above your own desire to win.

    • @danacoleman4007
      @danacoleman4007 Год назад +5

      Lol that is hilariously horrible!!!

    • @aiby0nznvnwbmss537
      @aiby0nznvnwbmss537 Год назад +2

      Oh god Why are there people like that?

  • @robinbrown8749
    @robinbrown8749 Год назад +14

    The bits about playing with parents struck home. My Dad has the attitude that boardgames are childish and silly. So he proceeds to act in a childish and silly way, thus proving himself right and destroying it for everyone else. So almost any game can fall flat. My Mum on the other hand (an experienced bridge player, so not dumb) was completely baffled by Carcassonne.
    I don't play games with them any more.

  • @brickisland6353
    @brickisland6353 Год назад +5

    In formula Dé we have almost the same rule. You are allowed to count spaces, but when it’s your turn you just take the die and roll, then you move your car at a steady pace without interruption.

  • @supersingalong1
    @supersingalong1 Год назад +12

    I really love this more story/experience oriented top 10. I love hearing the guys tell stories about game experiences.

  • @FranzBazar
    @FranzBazar Год назад +3

    This is definitely my favorite Dice Tower video of all time. Just hilarious, loved hearing the nostalgic stories, even if they were not so good gaming experiences!

  • @CountDewkeww
    @CountDewkeww Год назад +11

    They always make the weather dice in Takenoko so much more complicated than it is. My son was playing it at 8. You don’t have to teach them the dice. Have them roll it and then tell them what they got. To reenforce it, make sure you announce what you got and what you are going to do. Half way in, it’s a non-issue.

  • @geographist2000
    @geographist2000 Год назад +13

    Loving all of the episodes... I'm always pumped for your top 10s. Thanks for the shout out at the end... much appreciated.

  • @jsixsmith
    @jsixsmith Год назад +10

    Tom’s Ticket To Ride experience with his parents are my ever Sunday afternoon. 💀

  • @maxv658
    @maxv658 Год назад +7

    I relate SO MUCH to the, "ANYONE can play x" philosophy. I play board games with my family a lot(parents and brother) and my brother is pretty into the hobby and I have no worries about him picking up and playing a game, but I need to be very selective with my parents. I can't tell you how many times I pick a game and my wife says, "you sure your parents can play that one?" And I think, "of course! ANYONE can play x," and then I find out that no, not EVERYONE can play x.

  • @IndianaGeologist
    @IndianaGeologist Год назад +13

    This video had me in tears. So funny and so heartwarming as well. One of your best

  • @littleceasar9351
    @littleceasar9351 Год назад +11

    Spot on Rhado impressions, that’s one of the reasons why I haven’t watched a video of his in 3 years.

    • @alexthorne6996
      @alexthorne6996 Год назад +1

      When do they mention him?

    • @thegamethemovie9605
      @thegamethemovie9605 Год назад +3

      Yes, I can't watch him for the same reason 😅

    • @alexthorne6996
      @alexthorne6996 Год назад +4

      just found it 41:10 haha!!

    • @munchcat
      @munchcat 4 месяца назад

      Meh, I like learning a few different strategies before playing a game, and that's pretty much what he's doing when he thinks aloud. To each their own.

  • @zvnetzley9209
    @zvnetzley9209 Год назад +11

    As I was wading in past Catan and MTG, my stepbrother invited to join a group and try Arkham Horror. 5 of us sat down to play, and it became laughable (to everyone else) just how badly I became stuck in a whirlpool of horrible luck. Nothing worked out during that game for 3 and a half hellish hours, and under no circumstance would it ever get a chance to change that first impression, no matter how many people love it.

    • @DahVoozel
      @DahVoozel Год назад +1

      This happened to a friend of mine and spoiled my enjoyment of the game as well. I used to be an Arkham Horror apologist, but no longer.

    • @Naktya7
      @Naktya7 Год назад

      The same thing happened to me but with Catan. I spent 1.5 hours accumulating ressources during everyone else's turns then loose them on my turn because I had too many. This was the first and last time I played Catan

  • @maricay7917
    @maricay7917 Год назад +4

    This was a fun video. They were all on the same side, not ragging on each other, being respectful. Yes the banter is fun, but it's also nice to see them being agreeable and understanding with each other!

  • @dilatedbeholder3865
    @dilatedbeholder3865 Год назад +8

    I would have to give a shoutout to Eldritch Horror. A game that my wife and I absolutely love, but which I will never forget the time we tried to introduce it to friends.
    Do not, under any circumstances, play Eldritch Horror at 5-player.

    • @lok6314
      @lok6314 Год назад

      Why not?
      My first game ever was with 5..i had fun. Lost. But was a fun game

  • @kylejardine2133
    @kylejardine2133 Год назад +27

    Tom getting mooned had me laughing the rest of the day.

  • @escapeartist205
    @escapeartist205 Год назад +6

    Tom did so bad at 40k he won an award for not flipping out.

  • @estrathmeyer
    @estrathmeyer Год назад +3

    I eagerly await "Top 10 Games We Thought Zee Would Like"

  • @DiegoDeschain
    @DiegoDeschain Год назад +2

    This has to be one of the best videos on the channel, ever. So many funny stories, and moments. I loved every second of it.

  • @dago6410
    @dago6410 Год назад +4

    Idea for a top10: best "first heavy games" - if you wanted to get someone to play a heavy game who havent done that yet.

  • @mladen8127
    @mladen8127 Год назад +3

    Great video! Our first game of Twilight Imperium (3rd edition) fell completely flat. One player went full bore mixing and matching different expansion content and deciding what combination of strategy cards we should play with. We ended up with a pretty inert combination of strategy cards and objectives which basically led us down a path where we were doing all the fiddly things the game wanted, but no one was earning any victory points, no one felt they were able to execute their plans, and no one was having any fun. We gave in after 3-4 hours.

    • @maxv658
      @maxv658 Год назад

      The worst part is after 3-4 hours you probably still had 8-10 hours to go.

  • @TheM01e
    @TheM01e Год назад +7

    Great list! Love hearing stories because games are about people.
    Would love to hear a Top Gaming Experiences you’re thankful to have had!

  • @JoachimErdtman
    @JoachimErdtman Год назад +5

    This was absolutely hilarious! I thought it would be so negative, but I had some great laughs! Especially as relates to teaching parents games.

  • @greghoggard102
    @greghoggard102 Год назад +14

    Once again this is a really fun list to listen too! We all have had similar experiences with gaming groups but at the level you all play games, it is very interesting to hear your takes!

  • @uplift-yourdailypickup6424
    @uplift-yourdailypickup6424 Год назад +5

    Mikes #2 makes a good point. You don’t want to get way better than your friends at a particular game, otherwise it ruins the experience for everyone. You are bored because it’s not a challenge and your friends don’t enjoy getting stomped.

    • @revimfadli4666
      @revimfadli4666 Год назад

      This is why I love catchup mechanisms, rather than be annoyed by having my win "stolen"

  • @Webchain
    @Webchain Год назад +3

    The bust on Radho was awesome!

  • @BobbyReichle
    @BobbyReichle Год назад +7

    Great list! My number one that I still try and struggle to get back to the table is The Others. I am notoriously bad at rolling dice, so I was playing the baddies, but, for some reason or another, I could not miss. Combine my beating my friends' down with their conservative play and not rolling well and the whole experience was over pretty quickly. I still want to play it more often but they are all pretty reluctant.

  • @Snowraven67
    @Snowraven67 Год назад +7

    I absolutely loved this list. Hearing all of your stories was wonderful! Great job guys!

  • @cheackertroop
    @cheackertroop Год назад +3

    As na interesting addition to Mike's number 3, I have the same experience of it being over before it really began but not because of the enemy showing up immediately, but because all the pieces we needed to complete the game (in a 2 player game at the time) were in the first 3 rooms, so we were able to just beat it before a single enemy showed their face. It didn't feel earned whatsoever so we just set up and went again

  • @devekut2
    @devekut2 Год назад +8

    For the 'Factory Fun' problem, I would simply insist the player take a photo of their board with their phone before manipulating any tiles.

  • @dirtywashedupsparkle
    @dirtywashedupsparkle Год назад +2

    What a great topic - we all have these moments, even with the best of games. A great reminder to be aware of the flags of when a game isn’t going well and to adjust for the sake of fun ❤

  • @geoffbullis4046
    @geoffbullis4046 Год назад +5

    This is the funniest video you guys have ever made. So good. Thanks for the laughs.

  • @KristoVaher
    @KristoVaher Год назад +2

    Recommended Nemesis house rule: Queen token does not start inside the bag. It is added only when one of the three happens: nest tile is discovered or time track reaches blue space or any player dies.

  • @shinjial
    @shinjial Год назад +1

    😂 man, this was a treat! I had this on while preparing for work, and it surprised me on how hilarious it was.

  • @Keldroc
    @Keldroc Год назад +28

    I would watch an entire video series that is just Mike playing games as Rahdo.

  • @harryofgo
    @harryofgo Год назад +1

    Played alot of Nemesis, but the game we talk about the most was the one where the queen came out first draw. We made it darn close, but it didn't matter. The thrills of running from that thing carried from start to finish.

  • @griffglowen5555
    @griffglowen5555 Год назад +1

    These are by far my favourite type of lists - some of the stories get a bit repetitive after a while but I love the comedy of these bad experiences!

  • @hovhannesbeaver8161
    @hovhannesbeaver8161 Год назад +2

    Lols Overpower. I was playing this at Taco Bell and was playing against a buddy. In the middle of Taco Bell I combo’s some massive Optic Blast with Cyclops, stood up and went “BOOM!” in his face. He looked at me stunned, got up and quietly left. Thankfully we stayed friends 😅

  • @adamwhite4858
    @adamwhite4858 Год назад +4

    I think all of my favorite games of Nemesis were when the Queen came out early. I’m in that game for the emergent storytelling, not to win it, and nothing mixes it up quite like the queen. I’ve had some epic horror experiences getting maimed by the Queen early on and scrambling to survive.

  • @BG_StuartJ
    @BG_StuartJ Год назад +3

    I don't talk through all my options, but once I've decided what I'm doing I do say what it is ("I'm taking this action and gaining these resources" or something like that) so other people don't have that "what did you do and can you do that?" moment. I've played some games where people not only silently take their turns, but don't even announce when they're done, so if the rest of us are distracted at all then we just sit there for a minute until the next person realizes it's their turn. Silent players always frustrate me more than vocal players.

  • @antalwahlers3574
    @antalwahlers3574 10 месяцев назад +1

    I actually had something similar in my very first (and still only) game of Scythe. We were 3 guys that met over a "meet local boardgame groups"-Platform and the one guy pulled out Scythe as the 3rd game of the night. We other 2 had never played it, but I LOVE engine building, efficiency puzzly games so I thought this was awesome. Right until the more experienced player had a unit out that could move 3 spaces (or sth, I don't remember exactly), and was thusly able to attack my guys at EVERY possible tile I could have moved to. It was just obviously game over. I couldn't go anywhere because he would be able to just go there with his mech and kill me. I really thought that was a very stupid game state, very akin to being check-mated in chess, which is fine in a way when you know beforehand that this checkmate is something you, akin to chess, have to prepare against to avoid. But firstly not knowing there even existed such a checkmate in the game (like I said: first playthrough) and on top of that Scythe giving me the impression of not BEING a "chessy" game because of all the engine building and resource-management stuff going on and being seemingly in the forefront gamewise, I instantly thought "This game sucks." and haven't touched it since.

  • @bibleboardgames5199
    @bibleboardgames5199 Год назад

    Thank you! My fall flat game was as a teenager, playing Risk. For some reason we all started saving up armies until no one wanted to attack for fear of getting crushed by everyone else if they had any weakness. I don't think we ever finished after 4-5 hours. I didn't play Risk again for 30 years until my nephews wanted to play (a newer version)

  • @aerickw
    @aerickw Год назад +2

    “I was mooned during the game”, I did not see that coming! 🤣

  • @KabukiKid
    @KabukiKid Год назад +2

    Who remembers the live-play of Tom playing Xia with Zee and Sam? Oh man... that was so painful. I love Xia, and I know Tom was hoping the guys would like it, but they REALLY didn't. It got to the point where Zee and Sam complained non-stop and the chat begged for them to just bail on the game... and they abided. Oof! Great game... but not with that particular group. lol ;-)

  • @mikemudrow
    @mikemudrow Год назад +2

    @10:47 regarding handicaps and deduction games, The Search for Planet X has a great way of building handicaps smoothly into the game setup with letting players choose how many starting clues everyone will get. The app helps a bunch with this, of course.

  • @juliansykes6668
    @juliansykes6668 Год назад +3

    Game of Thrones for me. Joined an experienced group of friends, and as soon as we started the game the two players closest to me left the table and basically discussed how they were going to take me out of the game. I actually like the game.

  • @davidjones7271
    @davidjones7271 Год назад +3

    Mike's story and rationale for his #2 is exactly my experience for Everdell!

  • @robertcrist124
    @robertcrist124 Год назад +3

    I had a few experiences pop us as I was watching, oh man there are just some bad experiences when playing games sometimes. This makes me want to keep a journal of the stand up moments in games so I can reference the good times.

  • @ThaGamingMisfit
    @ThaGamingMisfit Год назад +1

    The Nemesis thing literally happaned to me. It was my first time playing, and the game was over in like 20 minutes, the ship blew up and no one was to blame, it was just a bad luck streak

  • @guillermoz4914
    @guillermoz4914 Год назад +2

    Had so much fun watching this list, thanx guys 🙌🏽

  • @gravecac9522
    @gravecac9522 Год назад +3

    Great episode.! Very funny. We have all had experiences like that and I really enjoyed hearing yours.

  • @getgaymin
    @getgaymin Год назад +2

    I definitely blame Zee's luscious beard... mere mortals cannot help but be blinded by such earth-shatteringly beautiful face foliage.

  • @TylerAndToast
    @TylerAndToast Год назад +2

    Sounds like I'd love to go to Zee's house for a game night. You seem like a great host and game teacher

  • @XShrike0
    @XShrike0 Год назад +3

    33:56 I played a game of A Study in Emerald, where it turned out to be me against the other three players. Two players were convinced the other was on the other team and kept going after each other. I pretended to be on the opposing team and slowly increased my score. The look on the other opposing teams' faces when they realized the player they were dogpiling was on their team, losing each if them 5 points, and letting me win was hilarious.

  • @gadzooks2763
    @gadzooks2763 Год назад +1

    Another good example is Blood On The Clocktower. Great game, but it requires an experienced Storyteller to select a balanced set of roles, and to manage all of the role interactions, while being creative and fun with your narrations. I've seen many sessions torn apart by critics who felt the set-up was unwise

  • @rzlmlchm0975
    @rzlmlchm0975 Год назад

    "I enjoy playing it more than I enjoy winning it..."
    I feel that way about several games. Scythe, Agricola, and several others. I love the choices and building up my area so much. When final scoring comes around, it's just a technicality to see who got the most points/money/etc.

  • @MikeJohnson-xw9ig
    @MikeJohnson-xw9ig Год назад

    Hearing these experiences make me thankful I’m a solitaire player - great video guys - thanks

  • @SamiPaju
    @SamiPaju Год назад +1

    This was just a fun episode! Your stories are amazing and hilarious! More of these please!

  • @jflartner117
    @jflartner117 Год назад +1

    As a fellow former educator, the talk of teachers in meetings reminded me of something that has always puzzled me - all throughout my education and training to become a teacher, we learned about how different students learn differently and how you need to meet each student where they are and to make sure we make our lessons engaging and exciting....and then I get to a school and we have dedicated days for "professional development" - which is great - there is always new stuff to learn. But after all of my schooling about how to teach effectively - how do teachers teacher each other?? Read this. Look at me while I stand in the front of the room and talk. Watch these slides while I stand up here and talk.
    Really???

  • @brandonmarkwell6613
    @brandonmarkwell6613 Год назад +2

    This was a great video. We all have these situations, was good to get it off our chest. Thanks guys

  • @DaRedGoldfish
    @DaRedGoldfish Год назад +1

    Great list. Ostensibly a list of games, but actually a list of experiences. This felt less mechanical than other lists and more like friends hanging at a pub.

  • @SuncoastGuy
    @SuncoastGuy Год назад +1

    Regarding balancing a hidden movement game, I like the way Jaws handles it with the weaker team getting a boost on the second half.

  • @nickhayes1626
    @nickhayes1626 Год назад +1

    I was laughing so hard at Tom’s Fortress America story that I was hurting and the folks in the car next to me, in the Walmart pickup area, probably thought I was having a seizure.

  • @jazzgod21
    @jazzgod21 11 месяцев назад +1

    My ticket to ride experience with older parents: them thinking their train color some how correlated with the routes they were "allowed" to claim

  • @neilbiggs1353
    @neilbiggs1353 Год назад +1

    Suggestion for next time you do an anecdotal list like this - instead of letting people vote, how about asking people to e-mail their stories so at the end of each round you could give a 'Tale of Horror/amazement'? Maybe even get Eric to read them?

  • @andrewsmith2361
    @andrewsmith2361 35 минут назад

    Here's a top 10 suggestion... top 10 games with a "catch up" mechanic. I play with my 21 year old son. He is very analytical and constantly beats me with at least a 50 point spread. I'd love a good game that gives me a chance to catch up a little.

  • @michaelmueller260
    @michaelmueller260 Год назад +2

    That was fantastic...thanks guys!

  • @jamierufe
    @jamierufe Год назад +1

    Totally agree with Zee regarding Zendo. If it's your first time playing, I implore you, start out with the easier rules. Nothing will make a Zendo session crash faster than coming out of the gates with a super difficult rule. Ease the group in first.

  • @andrewturner9108
    @andrewturner9108 Год назад +2

    I have been THAT PERSON in Hanabi. I felt so bad after being told I was giving too much information. In my defence, it was only my second game. Fully unintentional but, hands up, I did it.

  • @Phoenixastro
    @Phoenixastro Год назад +2

    Okay, so I'll tell my Werewolf story too (One Night Ultimate, actually). Same players as Citadels in the first attempt and this time the "Nicer" son decides he can't tell a lie, so he tanks the game quickly. Then we got him on board and tried to teach it to the older brother's girlfriend. After the night phase she immediately says, "I'm the werewolf," very proud that she "caught the werewolf". I KNOW we explained the game well enough, but I did not count on her level of lack of attention to our teaching. My older son and I decided we just can't play this game at our house and moved on.
    I could probably spend all day on other bad game stories, but I'll leave it at those two.

  • @brendonpilott1688
    @brendonpilott1688 Год назад +2

    Awesome video, great perspectives and entertaining. I’ve played a couple hundred games and only had a handful or memorable experience that were terrible. AP is a problem for sure. And playing with someone who thinks they are losing and makes everyone at the table have a horrible time. My biggest let downs are my fault though and that’s when I pick the wrong game for my family to play because I like it but haven’t considered what they like.

  • @henryjoconnell
    @henryjoconnell Год назад +1

    Mike talking about Don't Mess With Cthulhu and Nemesis and Zee saying "very similar games" 😂

  • @TBH_Inc
    @TBH_Inc Год назад +1

    I can only recall one time a game fell apart. I played Container with I think 4 other people, and only 1 of us had actually played before. I’m still not sure exactly what happened, but we basically played badly at the beginning, causing there to be way less money in the closed economy than there should’ve been. It was still playable, but there was a lot less things we could do since we were all quite money limited. I ended up being the only person who could really do stuff for the last couple rounds, so people were begging me to just finish my turns asap to end the game. I still lost to the guy who had played before though :(

  • @FrogOnBoards
    @FrogOnBoards Год назад +2

    Great video, a lot of laugh!! Thanks for all your fantastic content.

  • @ziomalZparafii
    @ziomalZparafii Год назад +2

    8:43 for me Mr Jack is broken. For a couple of dozens plays on both sides with different people I saw Jack won only one time (and it was me against 7yo kid). The balance is what moved that game for me to a "quick play with a kid so she can easily win".

  • @Phoenixastro
    @Phoenixastro Год назад +1

    Ah, Citadels. I love Citadels and will still play it whenever, but one mean and lucky player can make it painful. I had taught it to my sons and the "Nicer" one (yes, I rank my children in various categories) grabs Assassin on 5 straight turns and names my character on all 5 turns, even when I started taking ones that really didn't help me just to try to play. If he's playing, I'm subbing in one of the expansion cards!

  • @mattvucu6706
    @mattvucu6706 Год назад +1

    I love overpower and blue moon and find their issues similar, so it always gives me a laugh when Tom expresses his blue faced hatred for my favorite game ;)

  • @tuntemon
    @tuntemon Год назад +2

    Shogun is one of my favourite games in my collection. One time the game completely fell flat because one player decided to do all his actions random.
    Which ruined the experience for the rest us who tried to actually play.
    Also I've not played a game with that person since.

  • @ravenbom
    @ravenbom Год назад +3

    I'm definitely the person that talks it out before I make a move unless I've played the game a million times and I'm deriving little to no joy out of it. I think in part because I over analyze everything. In part because I like to talk to people with the same interests about the things we love.

  • @gregorys9629
    @gregorys9629 Год назад

    Great episode! I had a similar experience playing High Society with my partner and her parents recently (their first game). The game ended without anyone having purchased any point scoring cards (only the multipliers, negative cards), and my partner's Dad won with 0 points because he had the most money! He instantly dismissed the game as a result.

    • @darbyl3872
      @darbyl3872 Год назад +1

      I played it with my mother and her friends (non-gamers). At the beginning, I said that if you end up with the least amount of money, you can't win. At the end, they all had no money ;-}

    • @gregorys9629
      @gregorys9629 Год назад +1

      @@darbyl3872 That's how most of my games against people playing it the first time goes :p It's such a good quick game once you have the hang of it though.

  • @Amy_V
    @Amy_V Год назад +3

    Gloom fell really flat for me when I played it with someone that didn’t like doing any storytelling. That one really depends on the players to come alive.

    • @soogymoogi
      @soogymoogi Год назад +3

      Yeah, without the story element it's just a take that game with cool cards. With the story element it's a heartwarming tale about a man who fell in love with his tapeworm

    • @Amy_V
      @Amy_V Год назад

      @@soogymoogi 😂 exactly

    • @neilbiggs1353
      @neilbiggs1353 Год назад +2

      I think it can survive one or two players who don't try to narrate as long as most players do. It's in an interesting space as the game doesn't penalise players who can't ad-lib in the way something like Snake Oil does

  • @konignickerchen7265
    @konignickerchen7265 Год назад +1

    Mine is definitely Cash n Guns. My family of 5 played it and since everyone knows I'm the board game buff, there was always at least one person that was aiming at me - even if my brother was collecting more money than everyone else combined. It doesn't matter what you do or how well you can read people - if there's always someone pointing a gun at you, you basically are barred from playing.

    • @Lanxe
      @Lanxe Год назад

      Hah had something similar with Good Critters recently. Was the boss for a few rounds then was talking my way in and out of trouble along with others at the table. Then my friend who hadn't played it before got tired of the negotiating and decided to park his character in front me every turn, regardless of what the rest of the group was saying or doing. I wasn't worried but kind of ruined the play at the end as it limited my options and I could see he was clearly frustrated which was unfortunate. Made me realise again that sometimes the intensity can be too or be too long for some folks

    • @adamwhite4858
      @adamwhite4858 Год назад

      Lol I gave away Cash N’ Guns for this exact reason. Every single time I’d teach the game everyone would just assume I was the best player and I would be staring down the barrels of three foam guns every single turn 😂😂😂.

  • @robertcrist124
    @robertcrist124 Год назад +1

    I definitely want someone to get some shorts, with a butt printed on the back of them, and when playing a game with Tom stand up and turn around haha

  • @Lanxe
    @Lanxe Год назад +2

    Playing Brass was the last time I was genuinely angry (I'm not proud of it). My nephew blocked me getting a load of points I had been working up to over several turns but couldn't manage it. He was going to win by a massive margin and he got 1 point off his action. It was pre-lunch and my blood sugar was low. No defense but you get the picture. I had no chance of winning after a frustrating game and the final straw was being blocked for a 1 point gain for a player that was clearly going to win. We laughed about it afterwards at my expense (deservedly) but boy I was indignant at the time.

  • @leenicholas3279
    @leenicholas3279 Год назад

    As another teacher I can 100% confirm. We host teenage game nights and those kids pick up on games a million times faster than most adults. You couldn't pay me enough to try and teach some relatively simple games to coworkers in a staff meeting.

  • @kamilkuklo4225
    @kamilkuklo4225 Год назад +3

    Had the same experience playing Grand Austria Hotel as Mike with Root. I tried it online for the first time, warned some random guy who was looking for players that I am a total beginner, he wouldn't mind and in the end he scored over 150VP against mine 40VP. And I was not allowed to undo one of my actions on my turn (I forgot to take card from the market at the beginning of my turn and went for the main action first; I was not allowed to take card from market afterwards!). Awful experience and really bad boardgame etiquette. Never use other players to fill empty seats at a table and to satisfy your boardgame lust!

  • @bricelory9534
    @bricelory9534 5 месяцев назад

    A major fall flat experience I had was with a group of friends playing Werewolf, and they begged me to join. I wasn't hugely interested in joining at first, but I decided to give it a go and fully intended to participate as well as I could. On the first round of voting to kill someone, I was dead before getting to do *anything*. I absolutely hated the experience and will likely never look on Werewolf as a good game because of it. I think they were trying to let me go since they thought I didn't really want to be there (but then why have me?? They had enough people), but it just felt like being a bit badgered into wanting to join only to have that taken away too.
    Another game, which was more just it falling flat, was Tiny Epic Quest. There are *so* many rules that almost have no effect on the game. And it clogged up the learning time so much that by the time we made it to rolling dice, which is supposed to be the payoff, absolutely no one was interested. Especially since a player can simply be killed off because of another player's bad die rolls. I know a lot of people enjoy it, but I give it a 4/10.

  • @jorgerodriguezzepeda5746
    @jorgerodriguezzepeda5746 Год назад +2

    I loved this top 10!!! So hilarious!!!

  • @johchadow
    @johchadow Год назад +2

    This top ten makes my Dice Tower Top 10 top ten list.