Some comments regarding the grip discussion: The stacked grip does not need to be palm up. In fact some, like well recognized forehand specialist Scott Stokely, are very much against throwing palm up but still recommend the stacked grip to start out learning forhand. Completely missing from the discussion is the sometimes called "super finger grip", noticeably used by guys like Nate Sexton and Ryan Sheldon. Nate having one of the best forehands accuracy wise and Ryan having the outright most powerful forehands in disc golf setting records for both speed and distance. Generally underrated grip I would say.
Can't say it enough, Brian is my favorite when it comes to education. From smooth delivery and easy to follow instructions, whats not to like? Sprinkle in a little Aaron, whats not to like. Thanks, and keep them coming. Who knows, maybe it will actually help.
These videos are so good. Brian is incredible at articulating and breaking down the components of movement. I throw a few discraft discs just to support this kind of content.
Being a lefty throwing forehand, it's really nice to SEE how it's thrown correctly by someone else who is left-handed. Tips are super helpful, and I'm excited to see how my game improves. Thanks for the video!
I've noticed a significant difference between rounds where i play catch with a football to warm up first, and those that I dont do much, highly recommend playing catch with a football to loosen up
Genius!! Thanks fellas. I do appreciate the concept of the L Ham “pulling thru”.. maintaining some L Knee Flex facilitates the R Hip rotations thru. That was very specific and spot on. Thanks!!!! Along w the firm warnings on warm ups, cool down, stretches, strength & rest it after reaching “pitch count” target #
My longest forehand shots have been with a Star Mamba and a Sapphire. They hear about 356 in an open field with Udisc. The lag that Aaron talks about is something that I don't do purposefully but when everything goes right it's always there. Great video given me a lot to think about. Definitely going to look to get my release flatter.
Excellent lesson. I throw a Discraft Scorch on long second shots with a standstill forehand. Super straight with a totally predictable fade. Good job guys!
AAron I can't believe you threw the forehand on Fox Run Meadows #6, over the ditch! Can not wait to go back to GMC and play the course and Brewster Ridge after the tournament. Such a picturesque place. I put The Cove in NC and Smugglers Notch as the best and most beautiful courses in America. Thanks for filming there.
Loved the part about lag. For too many years I was trying to move everything at the same time. Just recently started to get the 'flow' of things. Thanks for the vid!
One main thing that is a massive tip not mentioned is: practice on flicking the wrist with a putter (luna, roach) to really work on the spin. start slow (100’) and use the technique mentioned by aaron.
Love this series, including Brian E. as the instructor. For this one specifically, I think it was a good idea to bring Aaron in to add his expertise in this area. One comment I have is that I typically find that my forehand "wing angle" tends to tilt up as I finish the throw. And this is more exaggerated when I add more power. So I usually have to remember to tilt the "wing angle" more down (away from me) on longer forehand drives. I also need to do this on forehand upshots if I want the disc to fade at the end (even more stable midranges).
Great information. Favorite Forehand disc. CrankSS. Future Topics. Wind direction and disc selection. Thanks again for sharing this wonderful information with us all. 😎
Love a good Zeus for long forehands. I've been going through a rough patch forehand-wise, and this gives me some good pointers to work on. Awesome tips guys, can't wait for the next one!
Strength training really helps. I learned forehand drives this year, and I now prefer almost all shots on the forehand side. 350 seems really far, but I can park 320 on control power some days. I've played about 150+ rounds this summer and I've had no pain at all, besides muscle soreness.
Good information. I have a couple of remarks. First, watching their form the palm isn't "up" in the sense many would think. I believe that thinking "palm up" is useful to help counteract the tendency to roll their wrist over, which pretty much always results in poor aim and off axis torque. Second, at least for me thinking of it in terms of a shuffle into a forward lunge is helpful as I'm working on it. Pointing the last lunge-esque step forward will turn the hips forward as part of the kinetic chain.
I currently have 5 discs in my bag that I use for forehand depending on the shot I need; ESP Surge, Big Z Zone, ESP Zone, Neutron Crave, and Neutron Relay. The Surge I never throw backhand, and is my go-to distance shot. I can throw it flat, get slight turn and a consistent finish or on hyzer with a skip finish. My Zones are used for my pitch and scramble forehands. The ESP is a nicely worn-in for a slightly straighter flight. Whereas the Big Z, even if I throw it flat, it's going right. I use the Crave when I need a dead-straight shot. I use the Relay when I need a forehand shot to finish to the left, just put it on a little anny, and can get it to turn then finish flat.
My forehand is utter garbage. Been trying to work on it for a while but the biggest thing that screws me up is trying to keep it close to my body. If I extend my arm out (just like you did at 9:01) I get pretty good distance and clean release. At 9:01, in my opinion, your arm is pretty far out and away from your body. What is my brick of a brain not putting together correctly here? How does verbal instruction to keep my arm close to my body translate to the extension in your arm at 9:01? Even Aaron at 10:47 says keep that elbow in but immediately before throws with what I would consider an extended ish arm. The gap between elbow and waist looks to be at least 18 inches. Besides that, thank you for this series. It's the best RUclips instructional series I've come across by miles. Very much appreciated.
It means you need to lead with the elbow. And I suppose timing the throw with the body turning. Keeping elbow close will not get anyone the distance. But every forehand video it gets repeated. No clue why.
Great video! Great tips on left leg. Thinking about what angle you want for the first 15ft of the shot and then maintaining the angle will be very useful. I wish the forehand got more training vids like this. Would love advice on disc weights for more distance related to arm speed. Love my Krait, raptor, zone pd etc Great stuff
this made me feel a lot better about my game LOL i'm basically forehand only atm. I've been doing man of the things mentioned just not... all the time .. Ive working on consistency more and little by little it's getting there but i'd love to be able to get to 400 + .. currently I'm throwing about 280-330 with an 8 speed with like a 2 step walk up. I used to have a run up but found i was WAY too inconsistent i'd be able to throw 260-280 max before but i never knew where it was going i normally used a fan grip and keep debating on trying the power just to see if it does anything I just feel i have less stability/ angle control previously but i've also come a decent way since
Awesome to see a lefty! It's funny at the end of the first bomb you threw I saw it fade left at the end. I didn't catch on that you were lefty and I was wondering how the heck you could get a disc to glide that way. 😁
star tern when i have a lot of space (understable). - i got my first ace with the exact shot at 396 ft, luckiest shot of my life :D. crank when i go for distance (big "S" line but always comes back after turning). nuke when i throw into headwind or when i need the disc to finish right.
Love the lessons. Can you PLEASE do a video on what type of discs to use with what type of wind? Headwind, tailwind, right to left and left to right? I am having so much trouble with that part of the game. Thanks!
there are probably better ones out there, but this should help in lieu of a video: i.pinimg.com/originals/1b/63/e4/1b63e4340584fd6b58b3f39cf316a73a.jpg
@@andrewpyman3032 thanks for the picture. The headwind and tailwind info kind of helps but the side to side would be great to see some examples. I’m a visual guy 😄👍🏽
Love my forehand but I can't get two fingers under the rim. When I do it turns over into the dirt.. my 1 finger grip has the other finger on the lower rim
Great video, I will definitely try and use that information to improve my forehand, at the moment I'm just throwing very overstable discs to compensate for my lack of technique. I have one question: are there players who reverse index and middle finger on their stacked grip? To me, it would seem easier to hold the disc straight this way... in theory. :)
One thing I see in a lot of forehand tutorials when talking about the grip is neglecting to show what you're doing with the thumb. In a stacked grip, where is the thumb being placed? On top of the index finger? What kind of pressure does the thumb have on the disc?
Thanks for a great video! I have an old saying (because I made it up and I'm old!). What do you get when you combine 350' worth of effort with 170' worth of technique? 170 feet.. Thanks for sharing 😊
Why is it important to keep the elbow close to the body? It's more comfortable when I keep it a lil farther away. Does it make me more susceptible to off axis torque?
No video ever talks about Range of Motion and flexibility with grip strength. For 25 years I could never throw a forehand that didn’t look like a wounded duck taking flight. I spent 6 months mashing and PNF stretching my throwing arm (mostly forearm) while doing field work before I managed to have a serviceable forehand.
I grip the forehand with my pointer finger on top, with my middle finger literally on top of the pointer finger. Should I try to learn one of the grips you showed or will the grip I use suffice? Don’t want to be sacrificing distance because my forehands always come out very wobbly
Never move your wrist as you show in the stacked grip. You can twist your grip even in the stacked grip. Always have the Ball of your middle finger against the rim.
I keep seeing conflicting teaching on the palm up and grip for stacked grip. I keep seeing people stack their two fingers inside the rim but the pads both on the inside rim, thus avoiding the palm up. I see people do this because of the obvious “serving the pizza” but scott. You’re not allowing your wrist to fully go through. Now i am conflicted!
Axiom Discs Tantrum. Throwing it 500ft+ fairly regularly with a forehand (not that you need to do that often...) - such a good disc though! Flight numbers are 14.5 | 5 | -1.5 | 3
You mean i shouldn't just jump out the car and start ripping 450 ft forehands right off the bat? Or not stretch or ice my elbow or arm after a day of ripping forehands? jk i know , and i try to tell players this all the time and they shrug me off because I've only been playing for 2 years. i started and the first 6 months of me playing was all sidearm , and guess what , my arm was always hurting. But yes , people please condition your arms and recover before throwing hard again , you'll thank me later !
Very nice forehand tips from you 👍🥏. I have 3 favorit forehand discs. For me works the Stratosphere very good. And i also use very often the Sockibomb Felon and Axiom Excite (if its very windy).
here's something that may help when it comes to grip: i broke my right hand, where it attaches to the wrist, so my 'power grip' wrist movement is clicky and never gonna be reliably strong, with my recreational regimen. so i throw standard stack grip most of the time. but when i want power, the one finger grip is huge for my flexibility and range of motion, if you can just get the hang of the release. i have ripped sidearms further than my backhand that way. also i have played guitar for a long time so that range of motion in the wrist mimics 'strumming' on my picking hand, and the muscles and tone are built up well for it. just something to think about when you see someone whip a forearm 400 feet: either they are a sick rhythym guitar player, or very... lonely.
been backhanding for 20 years. i cant for the life of me get the stacked grip down. 1 finger just feels much more comfortable. on the flip side of that token, i know im lacking spin on my shots. lately been burning out my disc to the left ( im a right hander). either that or ill release my disc wobbly which kills my spin. going to try focusing on keeping the disc level throughout my entire shot, only trouble is convincing my brain that whipping my arm from high up (like brian was touching on where he could see the bottom of the shooters disc) is incorrect, since ive been doing that for 20 years :/
You very likely lack flexibility in your forearm and rotator cuff. I’ve been playing since ‘95 and only developed my forehand in the past 2 years. It took me 6 months of mobility work to get the OAT out of my forehands. No one ever talks about range of motion in these movements. Look at Eagle’s videos and just notice how far back his wrist cocks while just holding the disc, not in motion but just holding it.
Some comments regarding the grip discussion:
The stacked grip does not need to be palm up. In fact some, like well recognized forehand specialist Scott Stokely, are very much against throwing palm up but still recommend the stacked grip to start out learning forhand.
Completely missing from the discussion is the sometimes called "super finger grip", noticeably used by guys like Nate Sexton and Ryan Sheldon. Nate having one of the best forehands accuracy wise and Ryan having the outright most powerful forehands in disc golf setting records for both speed and distance. Generally underrated grip I would say.
Everyone knew brian is great in front of the camera. But I found it surprising how natural it was for Goose! Give us more of these. This was great.
He’s great on podcasts too, dude is a natural
Aaron absolutely bombs forehands
The power comes from the mustache 😂
@@discraftdiscgolf you might be onto something...
He said he grew up right across from a long stretch of grass as a kid and would just practice for hours every day
@@fromthebasement918 did he have the mustache back then though?
@@discgolfwes he was born with it
Can't say it enough, Brian is my favorite when it comes to education. From smooth delivery and easy to follow instructions, whats not to like? Sprinkle in a little Aaron, whats not to like. Thanks, and keep them coming. Who knows, maybe it will actually help.
BEST disc golf tutorials out there. PLEASE keep this series going in 2023 #FIELDWORK
Brian is a gift to disc golf
These videos are so good. Brian is incredible at articulating and breaking down the components of movement. I throw a few discraft discs just to support this kind of content.
Aaron was great too--as far as new topics, I would love a deep dive into anhyzer approach shots, forehand and backhand
PRO TIPS from Aaron! Super helpful for those gains!!
Being a lefty throwing forehand, it's really nice to SEE how it's thrown correctly by someone else who is left-handed. Tips are super helpful, and I'm excited to see how my game improves. Thanks for the video!
I've noticed a significant difference between rounds where i play catch with a football to warm up first, and those that I dont do much, highly recommend playing catch with a football to loosen up
Genius!! Thanks fellas. I do appreciate the concept of the L Ham “pulling thru”.. maintaining some L Knee Flex facilitates the R Hip rotations thru. That was very specific and spot on. Thanks!!!!
Along w the firm warnings on warm ups, cool down, stretches, strength & rest it after reaching “pitch count” target #
My longest forehand shots have been with a Star Mamba and a Sapphire. They hear about 356 in an open field with Udisc.
The lag that Aaron talks about is something that I don't do purposefully but when everything goes right it's always there.
Great video given me a lot to think about. Definitely going to look to get my release flatter.
Excellent lesson. I throw a Discraft Scorch on long second shots with a standstill forehand. Super straight with a totally predictable fade. Good job guys!
Thank you for those tips. Fission Photon has become my go to forehand distance disc
So glad to hear Aaron say he keeps the palm up at release and beyond.
I found that focusing on throwing an overstable mid(gator 3) has really improved my forehand technique . Thanks guys, keep killing it!
AAron I can't believe you threw the forehand on Fox Run Meadows #6, over the ditch! Can not wait to go back to GMC and play the course and Brewster Ridge after the tournament. Such a picturesque place. I put The Cove in NC and Smugglers Notch as the best and most beautiful courses in America. Thanks for filming there.
Loved the part about lag. For too many years I was trying to move everything at the same time. Just recently started to get the 'flow' of things. Thanks for the vid!
Excellent video! They both touched on almost all the issues I’ve been having with my forehand. My most utilized forehand disc is the ESP Force.
Great breakdown. Also loved the "x step" breakdown. Great work. Thank you!
One main thing that is a massive tip not mentioned is:
practice on flicking the wrist with a putter (luna, roach) to really work on the spin. start slow (100’) and use the technique mentioned by aaron.
Love this series, including Brian E. as the instructor. For this one specifically, I think it was a good idea to bring Aaron in to add his expertise in this area. One comment I have is that I typically find that my forehand "wing angle" tends to tilt up as I finish the throw. And this is more exaggerated when I add more power. So I usually have to remember to tilt the "wing angle" more down (away from me) on longer forehand drives. I also need to do this on forehand upshots if I want the disc to fade at the end (even more stable midranges).
Would love a session on flick forehands or approach forehands.
My favorite forehand driver discs are the Athena, The TSA Construct, the Infinite Czar, and the Sexton Firebird.
Big fan of Aaron. Love seeing him in more DG content. And the Cloudbreaker and the Boss are my two favorite forehand discs.
Great information. Favorite Forehand disc. CrankSS.
Future Topics. Wind direction and disc selection.
Thanks again for sharing this wonderful information with us all. 😎
Love a good Zeus for long forehands. I've been going through a rough patch forehand-wise, and this gives me some good pointers to work on. Awesome tips guys, can't wait for the next one!
Right now my favorite forehand disc is the Hades for easy hyzer flip-ups. I'd love to see a video on how to increase C2 putting!
I'm on that Hades train, also
Strength training really helps. I learned forehand drives this year, and I now prefer almost all shots on the forehand side. 350 seems really far, but I can park 320 on control power some days.
I've played about 150+ rounds this summer and I've had no pain at all, besides muscle soreness.
This video just got Discraft a new subscriber! Thanks for the great video!
Good information. I have a couple of remarks. First, watching their form the palm isn't "up" in the sense many would think. I believe that thinking "palm up" is useful to help counteract the tendency to roll their wrist over, which pretty much always results in poor aim and off axis torque. Second, at least for me thinking of it in terms of a shuffle into a forward lunge is helpful as I'm working on it. Pointing the last lunge-esque step forward will turn the hips forward as part of the kinetic chain.
Sensei Earhart 🙌
Thanks for the excellent tips, Brian and Aaron. Nice Content!
Only thing I would add for the next video would be wrist. The wrist is probably the most important key to a forehand and having a smooth release.
One finger sidearm for the win
Love these level up series!
13:02 keep the disc rice and flat 🍚
My favorite forehand disc is the Discraft Predator.
Level up is VERY professionally done. Nice job guys!
I currently have 5 discs in my bag that I use for forehand depending on the shot I need; ESP Surge, Big Z Zone, ESP Zone, Neutron Crave, and Neutron Relay. The Surge I never throw backhand, and is my go-to distance shot. I can throw it flat, get slight turn and a consistent finish or on hyzer with a skip finish. My Zones are used for my pitch and scramble forehands. The ESP is a nicely worn-in for a slightly straighter flight. Whereas the Big Z, even if I throw it flat, it's going right. I use the Crave when I need a dead-straight shot. I use the Relay when I need a forehand shot to finish to the left, just put it on a little anny, and can get it to turn then finish flat.
ayy a Gossage fh vid.. sweet cant wait to watch!
My forehand is utter garbage. Been trying to work on it for a while but the biggest thing that screws me up is trying to keep it close to my body. If I extend my arm out (just like you did at 9:01) I get pretty good distance and clean release.
At 9:01, in my opinion, your arm is pretty far out and away from your body. What is my brick of a brain not putting together correctly here? How does verbal instruction to keep my arm close to my body translate to the extension in your arm at 9:01?
Even Aaron at 10:47 says keep that elbow in but immediately before throws with what I would consider an extended ish arm. The gap between elbow and waist looks to be at least 18 inches.
Besides that, thank you for this series. It's the best RUclips instructional series I've come across by miles. Very much appreciated.
It means you need to lead with the elbow. And I suppose timing the throw with the body turning. Keeping elbow close will not get anyone the distance. But every forehand video it gets repeated. No clue why.
Awesome advice! Really have benefited in both my form and arm/shoulder health for future rounds! Thanks
Long putts would be a good topic to cover. Thanks for the tips!
I feel that technique plays a big role in forehand I played a lot of baseball in the past and I’ve never had elbow or shoulder issues
I've been having trouble with my timing and follow through. The lag and palm up follow through advice seems pretty spot on, can't wait to try it!
Thx, Brian, Aaron 👍
Heckin bomb sidehand tips gents 😆 Seriously though, very well done!
Innova Star destroyer is my favorite forehand disc. Aaron has a cannon!!!
Great video! Great tips on left leg. Thinking about what angle you want for the first 15ft of the shot and then maintaining the angle will be very useful. I wish the forehand got more training vids like this. Would love advice on disc weights for more distance related to arm speed.
Love my Krait, raptor, zone pd etc
Great stuff
this made me feel a lot better about my game LOL i'm basically forehand only atm. I've been doing man of the things mentioned just not... all the time .. Ive working on consistency more and little by little it's getting there but i'd love to be able to get to 400 + .. currently I'm throwing about 280-330 with an 8 speed with like a 2 step walk up. I used to have a run up but found i was WAY too inconsistent i'd be able to throw 260-280 max before but i never knew where it was going
i normally used a fan grip and keep debating on trying the power just to see if it does anything I just feel i have less stability/ angle control previously but i've also come a decent way since
Awesome to see a lefty! It's funny at the end of the first bomb you threw I saw it fade left at the end. I didn't catch on that you were lefty and I was wondering how the heck you could get a disc to glide that way. 😁
star tern when i have a lot of space (understable). - i got my first ace with the exact shot at 396 ft, luckiest shot of my life :D.
crank when i go for distance (big "S" line but always comes back after turning).
nuke when i throw into headwind or when i need the disc to finish right.
Love the lessons. Can you PLEASE do a video on what type of discs to use with what type of wind? Headwind, tailwind, right to left and left to right? I am having so much trouble with that part of the game. Thanks!
there are probably better ones out there, but this should help in lieu of a video: i.pinimg.com/originals/1b/63/e4/1b63e4340584fd6b58b3f39cf316a73a.jpg
@@andrewpyman3032 thanks for the picture. The headwind and tailwind info kind of helps but the side to side would be great to see some examples. I’m a visual guy 😄👍🏽
Love my forehand but I can't get two fingers under the rim. When I do it turns over into the dirt.. my 1 finger grip has the other finger on the lower rim
I made it into the video at 3:16!
Good tips, thanks
My favorite forehand disc is the Athena and anax
great tips!
My favorite forehand disc is the raider from dynamic
Great video, I will definitely try and use that information to improve my forehand, at the moment I'm just throwing very overstable discs to compensate for my lack of technique.
I have one question: are there players who reverse index and middle finger on their stacked grip? To me, it would seem easier to hold the disc straight this way... in theory. :)
1 finger for the win!
Punisher- the best from the best for forehand 😁
And my biggest problem is the wobbling after I threw
DGA Banzai and Discraft Nuke are some of the best forehanding discs to ever be produced.
One thing I see in a lot of forehand tutorials when talking about the grip is neglecting to show what you're doing with the thumb. In a stacked grip, where is the thumb being placed? On top of the index finger? What kind of pressure does the thumb have on the disc?
I started strenght training because of my obsession with disc golf.
Thanks for a great video! I have an old saying (because I made it up and I'm old!). What do you get when you combine 350' worth of effort with 170' worth of technique? 170 feet.. Thanks for sharing 😊
I love this video. I get a lot of pain (almost like tennis elbow) when I throw forehand. Any idea how to mitigate it?
One finger sidearm for the win🤘🏼
Best content 👌
Champion destroyer❤😅
titanium nuke is definitely my go to
Why is it important to keep the elbow close to the body? It's more comfortable when I keep it a lil farther away. Does it make me more susceptible to off axis torque?
Can we get one of these on distance backhand? And my favorite forehand disc is my big Z Zeus
GOOSE IS ON THE LOOSE
No video ever talks about Range of Motion and flexibility with grip strength. For 25 years I could never throw a forehand that didn’t look like a wounded duck taking flight. I spent 6 months mashing and PNF stretching my throwing arm (mostly forearm) while doing field work before I managed to have a serviceable forehand.
Do any other pros other than Andrew Marweed throw with a 1 finger grip?
GREAT VIDEO A++
Infinite Aztec and Innova teebird3, but would love to replace this with a discraft mold
Try the Athena!
Favourite is wrath, longest is tenacity at around 420feet
I grip the forehand with my pointer finger on top, with my middle finger literally on top of the pointer finger. Should I try to learn one of the grips you showed or will the grip I use suffice? Don’t want to be sacrificing distance because my forehands always come out very wobbly
Never move your wrist as you show in the stacked grip. You can twist your grip even in the stacked grip. Always have the Ball of your middle finger against the rim.
Goose is great on camera
I can 3 finger grip a shryke or 13 speed pretty good
350? 😂 😂 😂 I'd be happy to get 200 with my forearm
12:32 awkward considering hole 16 at worlds 😬
I keep seeing conflicting teaching on the palm up and grip for stacked grip.
I keep seeing people stack their two fingers inside the rim but the pads both on the inside rim, thus avoiding the palm up.
I see people do this because of the obvious “serving the pizza” but scott. You’re not allowing your wrist to fully go through. Now i am conflicted!
Finger gun with index finger stacked behind middlefinger is the cue. Then lock the grip with ring finger against the rim
I heard palm up is a no no
Axiom Discs Tantrum. Throwing it 500ft+ fairly regularly with a forehand (not that you need to do that often...) - such a good disc though! Flight numbers are 14.5 | 5 | -1.5 | 3
Don’t forget shoulder blade
If you launch rockets ice your elbow after if you can. It'll go a long way.
Wait, 2 anhyzers??
BEAR AND GOOSE ARE GOOD!
Can't wait to throw my hip out then my elbow :)
Step 1. Play baseball your whole life haha
You mean i shouldn't just jump out the car and start ripping 450 ft forehands right off the bat? Or not stretch or ice my elbow or arm after a day of ripping forehands? jk i know , and i try to tell players this all the time and they shrug me off because I've only been playing for 2 years. i started and the first 6 months of me playing was all sidearm , and guess what , my arm was always hurting. But yes , people please condition your arms and recover before throwing hard again , you'll thank me later !
The background music is distracting while you're talking.
Very nice forehand tips from you 👍🥏.
I have 3 favorit forehand discs.
For me works the Stratosphere very good.
And i also use very often the Sockibomb Felon and Axiom Excite (if its very windy).
here's something that may help when it comes to grip:
i broke my right hand, where it attaches to the wrist, so my 'power grip' wrist movement is clicky and never gonna be reliably strong, with my recreational regimen. so i throw standard stack grip most of the time.
but when i want power, the one finger grip is huge for my flexibility and range of motion, if you can just get the hang of the release. i have ripped sidearms further than my backhand that way. also i have played guitar for a long time so that range of motion in the wrist mimics 'strumming' on my picking hand, and the muscles and tone are built up well for it.
just something to think about when you see someone whip a forearm 400 feet: either they are a sick rhythym guitar player, or very... lonely.
been backhanding for 20 years. i cant for the life of me get the stacked grip down. 1 finger just feels much more comfortable. on the flip side of that token, i know im lacking spin on my shots. lately been burning out my disc to the left ( im a right hander). either that or ill release my disc wobbly which kills my spin. going to try focusing on keeping the disc level throughout my entire shot, only trouble is convincing my brain that whipping my arm from high up (like brian was touching on where he could see the bottom of the shooters disc) is incorrect, since ive been doing that for 20 years :/
skimming stones is a good way to get the motion i think
You very likely lack flexibility in your forearm and rotator cuff. I’ve been playing since ‘95 and only developed my forehand in the past 2 years. It took me 6 months of mobility work to get the OAT out of my forehands. No one ever talks about range of motion in these movements. Look at Eagle’s videos and just notice how far back his wrist cocks while just holding the disc, not in motion but just holding it.