Probably top 3 dealer on the planet right there! Had the pleasure to meet him, and bought some products. Didn't know he was in the "tank" business though!
Again many thanks for sharing. For this excellence in hi-end audio equipment I do see something missing. Now I might be too extremely critical that included should be TERMINATOR CAPS, especially for all INPUTS. Meanwhile I still have to buy lottery tickets.
Hello Adrian: Thank you for this Gryphon unboxing video. IMHO this equipment is definitely a very sophisticated piece of stero/ audio equipment. Adrian, you didn't like the screws in that beautiful remote control but this isn't an Amazon discount knockoff. If I'm not mistaken that aluminum remote housing is CMC machined from a single block of aluminum. This type of machining isn't cheap but the quality shall remain lo g after the price is forgotten. Please enjoy in good health, TMP FROM N.J.
I would be more than happy and satisfied with the Diablo 333. I don't need anything more than that. Once you get into pre and power, you are essentially opening another can of worms (especially if we are talking about Gryphon).😃
Gryphon gear is fantastic. I have the Diablo 300 entry level stuff for them i know but build, control over the speakers is amazing. Great video, dream setup
Kudos to you for becoming a Gryphon dealer. They are the best of the best when it comes to amplifier and preamplifier design. Can’t wait to hear your impressions on the Apex and Commander combo. We sold 4 pairs already and our customers couldn’t be any happier. 😊
Congrats on becoming a Gryphon dealer. There’s very few manufacturers that build electronics to this standard. Real cost no object aspirational HIFI. I’ve had the pleasure of hearing the Commander with the Apex mono’s and all I can say is your in for a treat! You already carry lines which pair very nicely with Gryphon such as Wilson Audio and Sonus Faber. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the Apex.
My dream amp for retirement. Can’t wait for the review! Please do it the justice of reviewing it with your top-end speakers: the Aida, the SE-17, and the XVX 🙏
Very interesting to see this gear, thank you. It's for very specific customers, which is absolutely awesome. I'll put in some effort to experience this type of equipment. Denmark isn't far away.
Gryphon prices are a complete ripoff but at least they are beautiful well-ended machines. Other high-end brands don't even care about doing a nice device.
@@montanausa329 well my sweater is hand made too and I asure you I didn't pay $40k for it. Prices are not related to manufacturing costs in the high-end market. Price is used to position the product in the market.
@@net_newsactually you are both correct, for boutique products, they are not made in large quantities and there is also a lot of research, and development involved, along with employee cost, like benefits and health insurance which most seem to forget. If a company uses plastics, and another company uses glass or steel vs aluminum, include other nice touches, is the amp truly balanced or partially balanced or crates vs boxes, and what’s the topology class A,A/B or class D because there will be an up charge in manufacturing cost. Most importantly in this hobby is how does the product sound. Any company wants to position themselves properly in their current market for profitability. The high-end is just that, the high-end. With your sweater analogy it’s not a fair comparison because of the technology and manufacturing involved. A single Sweater don’t come shipped in wooden crate and the shipping cost isn’t as high, which is often figured in to cost with some manufacturers depending on weight. The average price of a sweater is from 15-25 dollars, but a designer sweater from Polo Ralph Lauren or other designers could cost you $250 to $5000 or more depending on the designer, no where near 40k, but I get your premise.
I saw these beasts in person. They are a sight to hold and while they had not broken in yet, even at low volumes with nowhere near top end speakers, they were sublime. It's like getting into a car, it launches forward and yet you are still in first gear and know there is so much more to come
Due to the amount of heat generated by this pure class A amp up to 210W at 8 ohms and 420 watts at 4 ohms, it cannot be sold in the USA below the Mason Dixon Line (basically below Pennsylvania). Obviously, it can be sold anywhere in Canada.
really??? Pass have class-A amps with even more wattage and heat. I get it I get it, it's a joke related to weather but there are tons of amps with similar characteristics.
@@net_news There aren’t many Class A amps that put out that much power as the Apex. Plus, as Adrian noted, most Class A amps do not operate in Class A mode throughout their entire power rating, as they switch over to Class A/B at some point well before they get anywhere near their full power output. There is a reason why the Apex amp in the video is the largest amp I have ever seen, as most of the mass of the amp is to dissipate heat. I have no doubts that the Apex is one of the best sounding amps on the planet (maybe the very best) but people don’t realize that such equipment could in some listening rooms cause the A/C unit to run (typically with background noise from the ducts) that could substantially offset the quality of the audio equipment in many locations.
@@net_news I was joking, as obviously people everywhere can buy those amps. But I wonder about the amount of heat they generate. Of course, unless I win the lottery, I don't have to worry about this issue. I have seen the Boulder amps, but looks like the Apex is larger. Here is what Boulder says they do to control heat: "Bias operation is Class A to full rated output power. An analog controlled bias circuit continually monitors the output voltage, current draw and load to adjust the bias current as necessary. When a musical transient requiring more bias is detected, the microprocessor will raise the bias much faster than the audio signal to keep the amplifier operating within the Class A window. After the transient has passed it will then gently lower the bias in a decreasing analog manner over a period of 28 seconds until another transient peak is detected. This has the benefit of keeping the 3060 operating in full Class A mode without the drawbacks of massive power consumption, excessive heat generation and the audible steps or “sliding” of other active bias management systems."
Very nice Adrian, just curious who your U.S. Gryphon support is because I live in the Miami area and there is really only one Florida dealer whom I think you probably know. I did briefly own the Gryphon Antileon a few years ago but changed it out however I do have a pair of Gryphon Pantheon loudspeakers and wonder how it would mate with the Commander.. I measured how hot each channel was running at idle with a handheld device and remember it averaged 127 degrees F! Great for Toronto winters, brutal down here in summer. Congrats on becoming a dealer.
Does the pre-amp (Commander) power supply unit have enough clearance in that rack to dissipate heat? I realize that it is not an amp, but I wonder if it should have more clearance than just a centimeter or so.
Is Flemming Rasmussen (The Gryphon’s owner) the same person who produced Metallica’s album in the 80s or they are different persons with the same name?
well you lost me on this one. I would call this audiophile porn. for the top 1 % its a conversation piece in a mansion, for the rest of us its obscenely expensive and gauche. just my midwestern 2 cents. enjoy your vids ntl!
I like the screws that hold the battery cover. It’s a nice touch and you’ll never lose the back, or at least not likely to lose the back.
Yes. I'm just being lazy
Congratulations on picking up the Gryphon line. With all of those wonderful brands, the store is obviously what audiophile heaven is like😊
Probably top 3 dealer on the planet right there! Had the pleasure to meet him, and bought some products. Didn't know he was in the "tank" business though!
Thanks!
Again many thanks for sharing. For this excellence in hi-end audio equipment I do see something missing. Now I might be too extremely critical that included should be TERMINATOR CAPS, especially for all INPUTS. Meanwhile I still have to buy lottery tickets.
Hello Adrian: Thank you for this Gryphon unboxing video. IMHO this equipment is definitely a very sophisticated piece of stero/ audio equipment. Adrian, you didn't like the screws in that beautiful remote control but this isn't an Amazon discount knockoff. If I'm not mistaken that aluminum remote housing is CMC machined from a single block of aluminum. This type of machining isn't cheap but the quality shall remain lo g after the price is forgotten. Please enjoy in good health, TMP FROM N.J.
I am just getting lazy in my old age. Plus my dexterity has long gone. Handling tiny screws is beyond my ham fistedness
I would be more than happy and satisfied with the Diablo 333. I don't need anything more than that. Once you get into pre and power, you are essentially opening another can of worms (especially if we are talking about Gryphon).😃
Gryphon gear is fantastic. I have the Diablo 300 entry level stuff for them i know but build, control over the speakers is amazing.
Great video, dream setup
At this price point, everything will be cool. Amp for people with money no object. And I would never be alarmed as I would never get it 😊
Maybe there is a discount when buying two amplifiers ???
Never say never.
@@frankgeeraerts6243 😂😂😂
not everything believe me, in fact, Gryphon designs and top notch finishes are more the exception than the rule. High-end brands are cheap bastards.
@@net_newsnames
Kudos to you for becoming a Gryphon dealer. They are the best of the best when it comes to amplifier and preamplifier design. Can’t wait to hear your impressions on the Apex and Commander combo. We sold 4 pairs already and our customers couldn’t be any happier. 😊
Congrats!!!
would love the hear the review on these, Jay's audio swear by them
Will be the best match with the Sonus Faber
@@renebrunner1529 Jay' Audio Lab (not former AE employee Jay) ran them with Wilsons and Magico(both highly revealing speakers) just fine.
Yesss 💥👊👊👊 congratulations Adrian 💯👌 good choice and awesome Products 🎶✨💪
Thank you
Congrats on becoming a Gryphon dealer. There’s very few manufacturers that build electronics to this standard. Real cost no object aspirational HIFI. I’ve had the pleasure of hearing the Commander with the Apex mono’s and all I can say is your in for a treat! You already carry lines which pair very nicely with Gryphon such as Wilson Audio and Sonus Faber. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the Apex.
Thanks
Oh my goodness!!! ... I'll have to stop by again soon !!! Maybe this weekend. I have to stop by the area again to pick up a unit.
HOLY SMOKES!! Adrian was lost for words! 😆
haha, very rare indeed!
My dream amp for retirement. Can’t wait for the review! Please do it the justice of reviewing it with your top-end speakers: the Aida, the SE-17, and the XVX 🙏
Yes will do
Very interesting to see this gear, thank you. It's for very specific customers, which is absolutely awesome. I'll put in some effort to experience this type of equipment. Denmark isn't far away.
Amazing!
Wow! En espera de la revisión y opinión de usted!!! Saludos!
Gracias
I must say it sounds pretty darn good for RUclips . Must of the time it sounds like you recording in a Cave with other demos.
Very exciting, Adrian. I'm looking forward to your initial thoughts.🎧👍
Me too!
Gryphon prices are a complete ripoff but at least they are beautiful well-ended machines. Other high-end brands don't even care about doing a nice device.
High end is expensive for one reason they are hand built because unlike others who mass produce many not 1 or 2 a year
@@montanausa329 well my sweater is hand made too and I asure you I didn't pay $40k for it.
Prices are not related to manufacturing costs in the high-end market. Price is used to position the product in the market.
@@net_newsactually you are both correct, for boutique products, they are not made in large quantities and there is also a lot of research, and development involved, along with employee cost, like benefits and health insurance which most seem to forget.
If a company uses plastics, and another company uses glass or steel vs aluminum, include other nice touches, is the amp truly balanced or partially balanced or crates vs boxes, and what’s the topology class A,A/B or class D because there will be an up charge in manufacturing cost. Most importantly in this hobby is how does the product sound.
Any company wants to position themselves properly in their current market for profitability. The high-end is just that, the high-end. With your sweater analogy it’s not a fair comparison because of the technology and manufacturing involved. A single Sweater don’t come shipped in wooden crate and the shipping cost isn’t as high, which is often figured in to cost with some manufacturers depending on weight.
The average price of a sweater is from 15-25 dollars, but a designer sweater from Polo Ralph Lauren or other designers could cost you $250 to $5000 or more depending on the designer, no where near 40k, but I get your premise.
Looks beautiful 😍 but huge…..
What a great pick up, congrats!!!
Thanks!
That is some sexy gear Adrian - I have a 1 farad capacitor in my Jeep stereo 😜 Congrats on another great line for Audio Excellence!!!
sexy indeed, amazing stuff
Thanks Paul! Was that custom or came from Jeep that way?
Beast of amplification!
I saw these beasts in person. They are a sight to hold and while they had not broken in yet, even at low volumes with nowhere near top end speakers, they were sublime. It's like getting into a car, it launches forward and yet you are still in first gear and know there is so much more to come
Wish you all the best to being a Gryphon dealer
Thank you!
We waiting review this toys
When he has the gloves on you know it’s serious. 😂
I love it
Yes..gloves🎉
Due to the amount of heat generated by this pure class A amp up to 210W at 8 ohms and 420 watts at 4 ohms, it cannot be sold in the USA below the Mason Dixon Line (basically below Pennsylvania). Obviously, it can be sold anywhere in Canada.
really??? Pass have class-A amps with even more wattage and heat. I get it I get it, it's a joke related to weather but there are tons of amps with similar characteristics.
@@net_news There aren’t many Class A amps that put out that much power as the Apex. Plus, as Adrian noted, most Class A amps do not operate in Class A mode throughout their entire power rating, as they switch over to Class A/B at some point well before they get anywhere near their full power output. There is a reason why the Apex amp in the video is the largest amp I have ever seen, as most of the mass of the amp is to dissipate heat.
I have no doubts that the Apex is one of the best sounding amps on the planet (maybe the very best) but people don’t realize that such equipment could in some listening rooms cause the A/C unit to run (typically with background noise from the ducts) that could substantially offset the quality of the audio equipment in many locations.
@@Mark-rw3kw Boulder have gigantic pure class-A amps also. I thought you were joking bro nice post though.
@@net_news I was joking, as obviously people everywhere can buy those amps. But I wonder about the amount of heat they generate. Of course, unless I win the lottery, I don't have to worry about this issue.
I have seen the Boulder amps, but looks like the Apex is larger. Here is what Boulder says they do to control heat: "Bias operation is Class A to full rated
output power. An analog controlled
bias circuit continually monitors the
output voltage, current draw and load
to adjust the bias current as necessary.
When a musical transient requiring
more bias is detected, the
microprocessor will raise the bias much
faster than the audio signal to keep the
amplifier operating within the Class A
window. After the transient has passed it will then gently lower the bias in a
decreasing analog manner over a
period of 28 seconds until another
transient peak is detected. This has
the benefit of keeping the 3060
operating in full Class A mode without
the drawbacks of massive power
consumption, excessive heat
generation and the audible steps or
“sliding” of other active bias
management systems."
@@Mark-rw3kwclass A
sonics well, but like tubes
Eventual maintenance 😮
Coda Ts v3 800w@4ohm 👍
We audio excellence Switzerland have a pair of monos with commander playing a pair of Magico M6 this combo is from another world
Very nice!
Oh wow, Daniel Hertz, Accuphase, and now Gryphon! Amazing! Are Magico speakers not far behind? 🖖🏽☮️
GREAT Video😀
Thank you
Very nice Adrian, just curious who your U.S. Gryphon support is because I live in the Miami area and there is really only one Florida dealer whom I think you probably know. I did briefly own the Gryphon Antileon a few years ago but changed it out however I do have a pair of Gryphon Pantheon loudspeakers and wonder how it would mate with the Commander.. I measured how hot each channel was running at idle with a handheld device and remember it averaged 127 degrees F! Great for Toronto winters, brutal down here in summer. Congrats on becoming a dealer.
Thanks. For now all service is through Gryphon USA.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Need those “guns” to handle the gryphon 😀
You let the side down! Guys don't read manuals 😅
lol you're right!!!
Does the pre-amp (Commander) power supply unit have enough clearance in that rack to dissipate heat? I realize that it is not an amp, but I wonder if it should have more clearance than just a centimeter or so.
That was temporary for the shoot. I moved the preamp to another stand
People hwo are willing to spend hundred of thousands of dollars or pound or euro for an amplifier are crazy. Very very crazy.
Is Flemming Rasmussen (The Gryphon’s owner) the same person who produced Metallica’s album in the 80s or they are different persons with the same name?
Nice! ...Can You send Me one
I can even pay for shipping ...
😂
well you lost me on this one. I would call this audiophile porn. for the top 1 % its a conversation piece in a mansion, for the rest of us its obscenely expensive and gauche. just my midwestern 2 cents. enjoy your vids ntl!
Yes, run Coda Ts v3 800w@4ohm
W 20.7s, 2-Rel Carbon Specials 😊
I dont like touch screens.