I FINALLY Respond to NeedGod.Net
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- I finally respond to NeedGod.Net! See below for original video on his channel:
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I am actually the guy he is talking to in the video and I do admit I did say some imprudent things in the conversation. Specifically my comment on 2000 years of tradition was directed against his personal interpretation, although I did not explicitly say it that way. However I am glad that you and others are starting to speak out against him. He also live streams everyday and talks with people in a chat room so you could try and do that if he doesn’t respond to your challenge. Again, I appreciate you making this video and correcting not only him but me as well. Keep up the great work and may the Lord bless you.
Are u still becoming a priest
. THE TEN COMMANDMENTS!
Old Testament vs. New Testament
1) Exodus 20:3 1) Matthew 4:10
2) Exo. 20:4-6 2) 1John 5:21
3) Exodus 20:7 3) 1Timothy 6:1
4)Exo. 20:8-11 4) Luke 23:56
5) Exodus 20:12 5) Matthew 19:19
6) Exodus 20:13 6) Romans 13:9
7) Exodus 20:14 7) Matthew 19:18
8) Exodus 20:15 8) Romans 13:9
9) Exodus 20:16 9) Romans 13:9
10) Exodus 20:17 10) Romans 7:7
God’s Law 👉The Eternal Covenant!
JESUS says keep Sabbath holy!
POPE says keep Sunday holy!
“The Bible says remember that thou keep the Sabbath day. The Catholic Church says, 'NO!'. By my divine power, I abolish the Sabbath day and command you to keep holy the first day of the week. And, lo, the entire civilized world bows down in reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic Church." Father Enright, American Sentinal, June 1893.
The WORD teaches 7th day is holy!
The WORLD teaches 1st day is holy!
SABBATH = (Exodus 20:8-11)
SUNDAY = (Mark 7:7)
WHO DO YOU 🫵 OBEY????
Peace be with you 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@protestant77 you are without a doubt the biggest troll on this guys channel always giving the same argument about the sabbath. Acts 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight. With all you said earlier it sounds like you disagree with the apostle Paul here.
@@CarlosRivera-fj3yhYes I am. I am currently applying to the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest. I should find out if I am accepted this week so please keep me in your prayers.
It’s all good man we always look back critically on ourselves and think we shoulda said this or that. All you gotta do is keep learning and good luck with becoming a priest, praying for you we need all the good ones we can get
as a Orthodox I love watching your videos my guy
God bless you, praying Christ joins you to his Church
@@soldierofchrist1096praying the same for you 😀
I mean you were one church once , orthodoxy and Catholicism agree on the 7 sacraments while protestantism doesn't.
@@ДжесикаИванова-б8ф except Eastern Orthodoxy did not exist until Photios in the 9th century AD when he departed from Apostolic tradition on the Papacy and the Filioque.
@@soldierofchrist1096 that is correct , but the church in constantinople was catholic before than , the great schism just showed the lack of unity of christianity
I'm so thankful this anti-Catholic is being responded to. I wish you could talk to him directly
He blocks and mutes
Me to he’s got a anti catholic gig
@@annb9029 disagreeing with someone isnt the same as being anti
They never want to engage someone who is properly catechized
He’s a coward. He never replies to me when I combat his rhetorical lies with facts, history, and scripture. But he responds to everyone else that obviously very little knowledge. I have no respect for him
Dear Alex,
I have a religion bowl for my school and you have helped me prepare for the questions. You also helped me learn more about the churches in Communion with Rome. Keep it up, and pray for me, a sinner.
(your the best catholic RUclipsr btw lol) ❤☦️
So glad someone’s finally correcting this dude 🤦 he spreads misinformation about Catholics and Eastern Orthodox rampantly
I've seen him say blatantly untrue things about Orthodoxy and I got banned from chat for pointing out what he said is wrong.
@@KillerofGodsnot surprising, he thinks that his interpretation is 100% without error. He's not interested in finding truth, only in spreading error. His arrogance prevents him from allowing himself from being corrected.
I'm guilty of trolling this protestant to correct his idealogy towards catholic truth but no! He ignores everything, I would great if you can debate him.
@@Catholic101A. He literally just searches stuff up on logos and quote mines random sentences out of context from the saints if you try to use them.
And he'll say even the early church fathers were already half a century or so after Christ and are therefore unreliable as only the apostles are reliable.
@KillerofGods it's frustrating isn't it?, you kinda want to leed them to the truth and they won't pay attention.
I know without a doubt that when I die, I am going to heaven. Not by my means or acts, but through Jesus Christ, my savor.
Because of what he did on the cross for u?
@@PacFer2006 Correct
Yes and No, as jesus did help for all of us, our actions needed some work to do with it comes to actual repentance
@@zakstr Ryan responded to this video
@justinpraise1 Yea, I saw! I'm glad 😇
God bless you alex. Please pray for me, this girl named kim and the whole world. To seek after God and be saved by him
My children's mother is named Kim. May God bless your friend
@@jd3jefferson556that’s beautiful man. My principals wife is also named Kim, and she’s more then a friend 😅 but thank you God bless you and your family 🙏🏼
WE NEED THE DEBATE
Real, I just know its gonna be heat
@@MexicanGamingBroslike mike vs jake
Voice of reason clears and it's not even a fair fight
@@Catholicism.istrve they both down for the debate it needs to happen
@@Catholicism.istrvefr he will probably not debate him at all because his response was so bad
Bro you responded to the wrong one, because he just cooked you in a new video responding back to you… hope you and other catholic brothers can see the truth on how the roman church is corrupt and not what it should be
Alex, he did a response for your video and he said he would like to talk with you
link please mate
Need God did a perfect response to this video, hats off to him, he was thorough, calm and everything said was backed with scripture and not some off the top of the top of the head statement. Hats off to you as well for your patient and respectful misdemeanor.
I just came here from his video. Everyone here should at least check out his response
OK. But what would a Christian in the first few years or decades of the church have done in response? There was no Bible then. It would not be compiled for centuries and none of the scriptures had even been written in those first few years.
I’m sorry but many Protestants speak about scripture the way that Muslims talk about the Qur’an. As if the Bible came down from heaven one day and from that point it was the be all and end all.
I’ll end with scripture to prove my point on this:
So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter. - 2 Thessalonians 2:15
Yeah check out his response, but also realize he perverts the Bible and butchers it. You gotta be careful when listening to guys like that because their words sound nice but their logic falls apart.
Nice try but thats not literally blood and literally flesh. Ever heard about transubstantiation?? Plus , read John 6 were Jesus alsos says the bread is TRULY His flesh and the wine TRULY His blood , the jews even questioned amd Jesus didnt corrected but reafirmed , dont bring up the fact that Jesus compares himself with a door etc cuz when the disciples or someone doesnt understand properly , Jesus actually corrects them , like on the death of lazarus , like on pharisees bread in Mt16 etc plus , they even abandoned Jesus , and Jesus didnt just let them leave as also asked the Apostles if they also wanted to leave. Its very clear what Jesus said , otherwise there wouldnt be any scandal. So u miss the whole point by assuming that it is LITERALLY his flesh and blood , otherwise would be canibalism , but its the transubstantiation, not transformation. God bless you , come home. Since you like to talk about the church as ourselves , it says that the Body of Christ is the Church , and guess what it says in Ephesians 4 that the Body of Christ cannot be splited , I guess from your view its completely correct to have 30k different churchs were many of them even fight between them and go against each other doctrines , ESSENTIAL DOCTRINES , even in the Solas their not unified. A scrupulous man Martin Luther wanted to be a Pope and became the Pope of his own church now we have thousands of them around the globe claiming they are the truth. Catholic statement makes way more sense "outside the Church theres no salvation" than all this protestantism confusion ( I once was) if someone was saved outside the Catholic church he was saved trough the catholic Church by being linked to the church in an imperfect way. Not all thouse heresies save. Theres just SO MUCH things taken out of the context from protestantism. Your explanation of our view of works its also completely wrong , we also do not believe we are saved by works , but our works show our faith. Its not just an intelectual faith "even demons believe in God" James letter talks alot on it ( for some reason Martin Luther wanted to remove it) this is what happens when people missrepresents catholics. Once saved allways saved ? Come on...I want you to read a quote from a man named Bill Foster, who was a denominational preacher back in the 1950s. In March of 1952, in the Weekly Informer, he stated, “If I killed my wife and mother and debauched a thousand women, I couldn’t go to Hell.” He even said, “I couldn’t go to Hell if I wanted to.” Tragically, this is the logical conclusion of “Once Saved, Always Saved...Galatians 5:4. This verse says, “You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. ”James 5:19, 20 Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.” 2 Peter 2:20-22. It says, “For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: ‘A dog returns to his own vomit,’ and, ‘a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire Corinthians 10:12. In this verse, Paul warned, “Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.” Paul wrote to Christians here, and earlier in the chapter, in verse 6, he said, “Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted.” In verse 8, he said, “Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell.” In verse 12, do you think Paul was saying to these Christians, “Take heed, take caution brethren… so that you do not fall and scrape your knee?” No! He was saying to be careful because they could fall spiritually and lose their souls! He was warning them not to allow themselves to get puffed up and then fall from grace! 1 John 1:7. This verse says, “But IF we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.” Hebrews 3:12. This verse says, “Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God.
@@JesusIsGodAlmighty-dyad2285Once saved allways saved ? Come on... want you to read a quote from a man named Bill Foster, who was a denominational preacher back in the 1950s. In March of 1952, in the Weekly Informer, he stated, "If I killed my wife and mother and debauched a thousand women, I couldn't go to Hell." He even said,"I couldn't go to Hell if I wanted to.' Tragically, this is the logical conclusion of Once Saved, Always Saved...Galatians 5:4. This verse says,"You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. " James 5:19, 20 Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins." 2 Peter 2:20-22. It says, For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: 'A dog returns to his own vomit, and, 'a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire Corinthians 10:12. In this verse, Paul warned, "Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall." Paul wrote to Christians here, and earlier in the chapter, in verse 6, he said, "Now these thingS became our examples to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted." In verse 8, he said, "Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell." In verse 12, do you think Paul was saying to these Christians, "Take heed, take caution brethren. so that you do not fall and scrape your knee?" No! He was saying to be careful because they could fall spiritually and lose their souls! He was warning them not to allow themselves to get puffed up and then fall from grace! 1 John 1:7 This verse says, "But IF we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin." Hebrews 3:12. This verse says, "Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God.But what about I John 5:13 and the claim that we may know that we have eternal life?
The Greek word for knowledge (from the verb oida) in I John 5:13 does not necessarily mean an absolute certainty is being expressed. We use the verb to know similarly in English. For example, I may say, “I know I am going to get an A on my Greek exam tomorrow.” Does that mean I have metaphysical certainty of this? No! I may in fact get a B or worse. Ever freeze up during an exam? What I mean and what the verb to know can be used to mean is that I have confident assurance of an A, because I have studied and know the material thoroughly.
The next two verses after I John 5:13 demonstrate this to be the usage of oida in I John 5:13:
And we have this confidence in him, that if we ask anything according to his will he hears us, and if he hears us we know (again, a derivative of oida) that what we have asked him for is ours.
Do we have absolute certainty that we will receive everything we ask of the Lord? No.
I was wishing someone would respond to this guy. Thank you.
jesus christ of nazareth is god and the catholic church is the church he founded
Jesus never founded any church or catholic church.. Catholic church was founded by the Roman Vaticans long a go before Jesus emerged in Isreal.. Then how come someone from Israel that never left his country found the catholic church?? The catholic church are the idols and Satan worshipers before Jesus came.. Please debating with you but rather wanna you to go do your research of the past history not the the media..
Again, the church He founded was the early church, which later split into catholic, orthodox, assyrian, coptic ect
Of course some heresies also split from the early church, such as nostoriosm (sorry if I pronounced it wrong).
Small note: I'm catholic.
@@1monk1year thank you for the understanding and i do need help praying the rosary can someone pls teach me?
Anybody who believes IN HIM is part of his church. Jesus didn't create Catholic church.
That’s beautiful you respond to the people whom help you brother and see they should be answered. That’s awesome. 👏🏼
I have responded to his videos a couple of times. He truly has the biggest misunderstandings of the Catholic Church, although he humbles me to get to know my scripture more, which is helping me align with the Catholic doctrine 😂.
Great video. One thing I would like to say is that the Feast of Dedication is actually mentioned in the Old Testament, but it would be unfamiliar to a Protestant as it is found in the books of Maccabees. That argument alone sprouts up a whole other new debate 😂
He responded back!! Voice of Reason round 2, I like when Protestant respond back because maybe now we can move the conversation forward.
The Marian dogmas are not taught in scripture. That alone is enough to not be Roman Catholic.
He did not imply that the OT is over the NT but that the Bereans verified the apostles by what they knew was the word of God. So every dogma of the church must be verified by what we know is the word of God.
Question for the protestant guy, "Whose interrpretation of the Scripture is correct?" Lutherans, Anglicans, Methodist, Episcopalian, Baptist...on and on? Who is right? Because every Protestant group disagrees, so how can Scripture contradict itself?
I can't wait for that debate
I’m currently Protestant and considering joining the Catholic Church or Orthodox Church you make some good points I ask that y’all please pray for me and my guidance
Come to Roman Catholicism
As a former Baptist I say come on in the water is fine. Glory to Jesus Christ.
Needgodnet just Made a reply video of this, damn bro u got cooked.
Nice try but thats not literally blood and literally flesh. Ever heard about transubstantiation?? Plus , read John 6 were Jesus alsos says the bread is TRULY His flesh and the wine TRULY His blood , the jews even questioned amd Jesus didnt corrected but reafirmed , dont bring up the fact that Jesus compares himself with a door etc cuz when the disciples or someone doesnt understand properly , Jesus actually corrects them , like on the death of lazarus , like on pharisees bread in Mt16 etc plus , they even abandoned Jesus , and Jesus didnt just let them leave as also asked the Apostles if they also wanted to leave. Its very clear what Jesus said , otherwise there wouldnt be any scandal. So u miss the whole point by assuming that it is LITERALLY his flesh and blood , otherwise would be canibalism , but its the transubstantiation, not transformation. God bless you , come home. Since you like to talk about the church as ourselves , it says that the Body of Christ is the Church , and guess what it says in Ephesians 4 that the Body of Christ cannot be splited , I guess from your view its completely correct to have 30k different churchs were many of them even fight between them and go against each other doctrines , ESSENTIAL DOCTRINES , even in the Solas their not unified. A scrupulous man Martin Luther wanted to be a Pope and became the Pope of his own church now we have thousands of them around the globe claiming they are the truth. Catholic statement makes way more sense "outside the Church theres no salvation" than all this protestantism confusion ( I once was) if someone was saved outside the Catholic church he was saved trough the catholic Church by being linked to the church in an imperfect way. Not all thouse heresies save. Theres just SO MUCH things taken out of the context from protestantism. Your explanation of our view of works its also completely wrong , we also do not believe we are saved by works , but our works show our faith. Its not just an intelectual faith "even demons believe in God" James letter talks alot on it ( for some reason Martin Luther wanted to remove it) this is what happens when people missrepresents catholics. Once saved allways saved ? Come on...I want you to read a quote from a man named Bill Foster, who was a denominational preacher back in the 1950s. In March of 1952, in the Weekly Informer, he stated, “If I killed my wife and mother and debauched a thousand women, I couldn’t go to Hell.” He even said, “I couldn’t go to Hell if I wanted to.” Tragically, this is the logical conclusion of “Once Saved, Always Saved...Galatians 5:4. This verse says, “You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. ”James 5:19, 20 Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.” 2 Peter 2:20-22. It says, “For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: ‘A dog returns to his own vomit,’ and, ‘a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire Corinthians 10:12. In this verse, Paul warned, “Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.” Paul wrote to Christians here, and earlier in the chapter, in verse 6, he said, “Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted.” In verse 8, he said, “Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell.” In verse 12, do you think Paul was saying to these Christians, “Take heed, take caution brethren… so that you do not fall and scrape your knee?” No! He was saying to be careful because they could fall spiritually and lose their souls! He was warning them not to allow themselves to get puffed up and then fall from grace! 1 John 1:7. This verse says, “But IF we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.” Hebrews 3:12. This verse says, “Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God.
Once saved allways saved ? Come on... want you to read a quote from a man named Bill Foster, who was a denominational preacher back in the 1950s. In March of 1952, in the Weekly Informer, he stated, "If I killed my wife and mother and debauched a thousand women, I couldn't go to Hell." He even said,"I couldn't go to Hell if I wanted to.' Tragically, this is the logical conclusion of Once Saved, Always Saved...Galatians 5:4. This verse says,"You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. " James 5:19, 20 Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins." 2 Peter 2:20-22. It says, For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: 'A dog returns to his own vomit, and, 'a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire Corinthians 10:12. In this verse, Paul warned, "Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall." Paul wrote to Christians here, and earlier in the chapter, in verse 6, he said, "Now these thingS became our examples to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted." In verse 8, he said, "Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell." In verse 12, do you think Paul was saying to these Christians, "Take heed, take caution brethren. so that you do not fall and scrape your knee?" No! He was saying to be careful because they could fall spiritually and lose their souls! He was warning them not to allow themselves to get puffed up and then fall from grace! 1 John 1:7 This verse says, "But IF we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin." Hebrews 3:12. This verse says, "Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God.But what about I John 5:13 and the claim that we may know that we have eternal life?
The Greek word for knowledge (from the verb oida) in I John 5:13 does not necessarily mean an absolute certainty is being expressed. We use the verb to know similarly in English. For example, I may say, “I know I am going to get an A on my Greek exam tomorrow.” Does that mean I have metaphysical certainty of this? No! I may in fact get a B or worse. Ever freeze up during an exam? What I mean and what the verb to know can be used to mean is that I have confident assurance of an A, because I have studied and know the material thoroughly.
The next two verses after I John 5:13 demonstrate this to be the usage of oida in I John 5:13:
And we have this confidence in him, that if we ask anything according to his will he hears us, and if he hears us we know (again, a derivative of oida) that what we have asked him for is ours.
Do we have absolute certainty that we will receive everything we ask of the Lord? No.
There are four problems with the defense of sola scriptura using 2 Timothy 3:16. First, it does not speak of the New Testament at all. The two verses preceding 2 Timothy 3:16 say:
But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings which are able to instruct you for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
This passage does not refer to the New Testament. In fact, none of the New Testament books had been written when Timothy was a child. Claiming this verse as authentication for a book that had not been written yet goes far beyond what the text claims.
Second, 2 Timothy 3:16 does not claim Scripture to be the sole rule of faith for Christians. As a Protestant, I was guilty of seeing more than one sola in Scripture that simply did not exist. The Bible teaches justification by faith, and we Catholics believe it, but we do not believe in justification by faith alone, as Protestants do. Among other reasons, the Bible says that we are “justified by works and not by faith alone” (Jas. 2:24). There is no sola in 2 Timothy 3:16 either. The passage never claims Scripture to be the sole rule of faith.
James 1:4 illustrates the problem:
And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.
If we apply the same principle of exegesis to this text that the Protestant does to 2 Timothy 3:16, then we would have to say that all we need is patience (steadfastness) to be perfected. We don’t need faith, hope, charity, the Church, baptism, or anything else.
Of course, any Christian knows this would be absurd. But James’s emphasis on the central importance of patience is even stronger than Paul’s emphasis on Scripture. The key is to see that there is not a sola in either text. Sola patientia would be just as wrong as sola scriptura. If your brother sins against you go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. . . . But if he does not listen, take one or two others with you. . . . If he refuses to listen . . . tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. (Matt. 18:15-17)
According to Scripture, the Church is the final court of appeal for the people of God in matters of faith, morals, and discipline. It is telling that since the Reformation of almost 500 years ago-a Reformation claiming sola scriptura as its formal principle-there are countless Protestant denominations. In John 10:16, Jesus prophesied there would be “one flock, one shepherd.” Reliance on sola scriptura has not been effective in establishing doctrine or authority.
No he didn’t . What are you taking about?
Haven’t seen the “Yo! MTV Raps” logo in 30 years 😂 great video
🗣️SOLA SCRIPTURA‼️
👉(Matthew 4:4)
👉(Isaiah 8:20)
👉(2Timothy 3:16)
👉(Isaiah 28:10)
Peace be with 🙏🏽
@protestant77
2 Tim 3:16-17
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
@@BD-ez9si
Amen
@@protestant77 How do you know that Matthew and 2 Timothy are scripture? What metric or criteria did you use to determine that, and from where did that criteria come?
Been waiting for this 💪🏽💪🏽
You can talk to him 1 on 1, they do viewer chats during their streams🙏
The last mistake he brought up was very ironic because he already used Mark 7 and if you go down a couple verses Jesus declared all foods clean because defilement comes from within (your heart) we are marked by sin
Net.God responded !
@@edgar5814 Yeah I saw his argument was pretty shallow like always all he did was cherry pick clips and make the same mistakes
That guy has been popping up on my RUclips shorts lately. I am glad you finally responded
He responded. And it was insanely good!!
Nice try but thats not literally blood and literally flesh. Ever heard about transubstantiation?? Plus , read John 6 were Jesus alsos says the bread is TRULY His flesh and the wine TRULY His blood , the jews even questioned amd Jesus didnt corrected but reafirmed , dont bring up the fact that Jesus compares himself with a door etc cuz when the disciples or someone doesnt understand properly , Jesus actually corrects them , like on the death of lazarus , like on pharisees bread in Mt16 etc plus , they even abandoned Jesus , and Jesus didnt just let them leave as also asked the Apostles if they also wanted to leave. Its very clear what Jesus said , otherwise there wouldnt be any scandal. So u miss the whole point by assuming that it is LITERALLY his flesh and blood , otherwise would be canibalism , but its the transubstantiation, not transformation. God bless you , come home. Since you like to talk about the church as ourselves , it says that the Body of Christ is the Church , and guess what it says in Ephesians 4 that the Body of Christ cannot be splited , I guess from your view its completely correct to have 30k different churchs were many of them even fight between them and go against each other doctrines , ESSENTIAL DOCTRINES , even in the Solas their not unified. A scrupulous man Martin Luther wanted to be a Pope and became the Pope of his own church now we have thousands of them around the globe claiming they are the truth. Catholic statement makes way more sense "outside the Church theres no salvation" than all this protestantism confusion ( I once was) if someone was saved outside the Catholic church he was saved trough the catholic Church by being linked to the church in an imperfect way. Not all thouse heresies save. Theres just SO MUCH things taken out of the context from protestantism. Your explanation of our view of works its also completely wrong , we also do not believe we are saved by works , but our works show our faith. Its not just an intelectual faith "even demons believe in God" James letter talks alot on it ( for some reason Martin Luther wanted to remove it) this is what happens when people missrepresents catholics. Once saved allways saved ? Come on...I want you to read a quote from a man named Bill Foster, who was a denominational preacher back in the 1950s. In March of 1952, in the Weekly Informer, he stated, “If I killed my wife and mother and debauched a thousand women, I couldn’t go to Hell.” He even said, “I couldn’t go to Hell if I wanted to.” Tragically, this is the logical conclusion of “Once Saved, Always Saved...Galatians 5:4. This verse says, “You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. ”James 5:19, 20 Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.” 2 Peter 2:20-22. It says, “For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: ‘A dog returns to his own vomit,’ and, ‘a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire Corinthians 10:12. In this verse, Paul warned, “Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.” Paul wrote to Christians here, and earlier in the chapter, in verse 6, he said, “Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted.” In verse 8, he said, “Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell.” In verse 12, do you think Paul was saying to these Christians, “Take heed, take caution brethren… so that you do not fall and scrape your knee?” No! He was saying to be careful because they could fall spiritually and lose their souls! He was warning them not to allow themselves to get puffed up and then fall from grace! 1 John 1:7. This verse says, “But IF we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.” Hebrews 3:12. This verse says, “Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God.
Once saved allways saved ? Come on... want you to read a quote from a man named Bill Foster, who was a denominational preacher back in the 1950s. In March of 1952, in the Weekly Informer, he stated, "If I killed my wife and mother and debauched a thousand women, I couldn't go to Hell." He even said,"I couldn't go to Hell if I wanted to.' Tragically, this is the logical conclusion of Once Saved, Always Saved...Galatians 5:4. This verse says,"You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. " James 5:19, 20 Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins." 2 Peter 2:20-22. It says, For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: 'A dog returns to his own vomit, and, 'a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire Corinthians 10:12. In this verse, Paul warned, "Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall." Paul wrote to Christians here, and earlier in the chapter, in verse 6, he said, "Now these thingS became our examples to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted." In verse 8, he said, "Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell." In verse 12, do you think Paul was saying to these Christians, "Take heed, take caution brethren. so that you do not fall and scrape your knee?" No! He was saying to be careful because they could fall spiritually and lose their souls! He was warning them not to allow themselves to get puffed up and then fall from grace! 1 John 1:7 This verse says, "But IF we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin." Hebrews 3:12. This verse says, "Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God.But what about I John 5:13 and the claim that we may know that we have eternal life?
The Greek word for knowledge (from the verb oida) in I John 5:13 does not necessarily mean an absolute certainty is being expressed. We use the verb to know similarly in English. For example, I may say, “I know I am going to get an A on my Greek exam tomorrow.” Does that mean I have metaphysical certainty of this? No! I may in fact get a B or worse. Ever freeze up during an exam? What I mean and what the verb to know can be used to mean is that I have confident assurance of an A, because I have studied and know the material thoroughly.
The next two verses after I John 5:13 demonstrate this to be the usage of oida in I John 5:13:
And we have this confidence in him, that if we ask anything according to his will he hears us, and if he hears us we know (again, a derivative of oida) that what we have asked him for is ours.
Do we have absolute certainty that we will receive everything we ask of the Lord? No.
There are four problems with the defense of sola scriptura using 2 Timothy 3:16. First, it does not speak of the New Testament at all. The two verses preceding 2 Timothy 3:16 say:
But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings which are able to instruct you for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
This passage does not refer to the New Testament. In fact, none of the New Testament books had been written when Timothy was a child. Claiming this verse as authentication for a book that had not been written yet goes far beyond what the text claims.
Second, 2 Timothy 3:16 does not claim Scripture to be the sole rule of faith for Christians. As a Protestant, I was guilty of seeing more than one sola in Scripture that simply did not exist. The Bible teaches justification by faith, and we Catholics believe it, but we do not believe in justification by faith alone, as Protestants do. Among other reasons, the Bible says that we are “justified by works and not by faith alone” (Jas. 2:24). There is no sola in 2 Timothy 3:16 either. The passage never claims Scripture to be the sole rule of faith.
James 1:4 illustrates the problem:
And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.
If we apply the same principle of exegesis to this text that the Protestant does to 2 Timothy 3:16, then we would have to say that all we need is patience (steadfastness) to be perfected. We don’t need faith, hope, charity, the Church, baptism, or anything else.
Of course, any Christian knows this would be absurd. But James’s emphasis on the central importance of patience is even stronger than Paul’s emphasis on Scripture. The key is to see that there is not a sola in either text. Sola patientia would be just as wrong as sola scriptura. If your brother sins against you go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. . . . But if he does not listen, take one or two others with you. . . . If he refuses to listen . . . tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. (Matt. 18:15-17)
According to Scripture, the Church is the final court of appeal for the people of God in matters of faith, morals, and discipline. It is telling that since the Reformation of almost 500 years ago-a Reformation claiming sola scriptura as its formal principle-there are countless Protestant denominations. In John 10:16, Jesus prophesied there would be “one flock, one shepherd.” Reliance on sola scriptura has not been effective in establishing doctrine or authority.
yeah, and I agree with him with every word he said.
Loved the responses that needGodnet gave.He stuck with scripture and not with traditions and wisdom of men
I don't think Voice of Reason will be able to come back from his response ☠
Nice try but thats not literally blood and literally flesh. Ever heard about transubstantiation?? Plus , read John 6 were Jesus alsos says the bread is TRULY His flesh and the wine TRULY His blood , the jews even questioned amd Jesus didnt corrected but reafirmed , dont bring up the fact that Jesus compares himself with a door etc cuz when the disciples or someone doesnt understand properly , Jesus actually corrects them , like on the death of lazarus , like on pharisees bread in Mt16 etc plus , they even abandoned Jesus , and Jesus didnt just let them leave as also asked the Apostles if they also wanted to leave. Its very clear what Jesus said , otherwise there wouldnt be any scandal. So u miss the whole point by assuming that it is LITERALLY his flesh and blood , otherwise would be canibalism , but its the transubstantiation, not transformation. God bless you , come home. Since you like to talk about the church as ourselves , it says that the Body of Christ is the Church , and guess what it says in Ephesians 4 that the Body of Christ cannot be splited , I guess from your view its completely correct to have 30k different churchs were many of them even fight between them and go against each other doctrines , ESSENTIAL DOCTRINES , even in the Solas their not unified. A scrupulous man Martin Luther wanted to be a Pope and became the Pope of his own church now we have thousands of them around the globe claiming they are the truth. Catholic statement makes way more sense "outside the Church theres no salvation" than all this protestantism confusion ( I once was) if someone was saved outside the Catholic church he was saved trough the catholic Church by being linked to the church in an imperfect way. Not all thouse heresies save. Theres just SO MUCH things taken out of the context from protestantism. Your explanation of our view of works its also completely wrong , we also do not believe we are saved by works , but our works show our faith. Its not just an intelectual faith "even demons believe in God" James letter talks alot on it ( for some reason Martin Luther wanted to remove it) this is what happens when people missrepresents catholics. Once saved allways saved ? Come on...I want you to read a quote from a man named Bill Foster, who was a denominational preacher back in the 1950s. In March of 1952, in the Weekly Informer, he stated, “If I killed my wife and mother and debauched a thousand women, I couldn’t go to Hell.” He even said, “I couldn’t go to Hell if I wanted to.” Tragically, this is the logical conclusion of “Once Saved, Always Saved...Galatians 5:4. This verse says, “You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. ”James 5:19, 20 Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.” 2 Peter 2:20-22. It says, “For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: ‘A dog returns to his own vomit,’ and, ‘a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire Corinthians 10:12. In this verse, Paul warned, “Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.” Paul wrote to Christians here, and earlier in the chapter, in verse 6, he said, “Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted.” In verse 8, he said, “Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell.” In verse 12, do you think Paul was saying to these Christians, “Take heed, take caution brethren… so that you do not fall and scrape your knee?” No! He was saying to be careful because they could fall spiritually and lose their souls! He was warning them not to allow themselves to get puffed up and then fall from grace! 1 John 1:7. This verse says, “But IF we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.” Hebrews 3:12. This verse says, “Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God.
There are problems with the defense of sola scriptura using 2 Timothy 3:16. First, it does not speak of the New Testament at all. The two verses preceding 2 Timothy 3:16 say:
But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings which are able to instruct you for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
This passage does not refer to the New Testament. In fact, none of the New Testament books had been written when Timothy was a child. Claiming this verse as authentication for a book that had not been written yet goes far beyond what the text claims.
Finally, this man has been driving us nuts with his spread of heresy and false articulating to sound convincing
Same here, especially with his calm over confidence
Especially when he uses the Bible to refute. Doesn't he know that the traditions of man out rank the word of God?
@@TheMockedy 😂 Ryan does a great job. God Bless him
What heresy?
@@alexmason8557 the heresy of reading the bible and believing it to be the infallible word of God
I would say, as far as the drinking blood thing goes, that the reason the Jews were barred from consuming blood of animals is because animals are mortal and they would be drinking mortality onto themselves. Jesus is eternal life, so drinking His blood is drinking eternal life onto oneself. Then ban on drinking blood wasn’t just arbitrary. It was for the purpose of drinking eternal life and not death.
Never heard that before, makes sense.
@@cherylschalk9106 It’s from Dr. Brant Pitre’s book, Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist.
The Hebrew says that the life (soul, nephesh) is in the blood (dam). That’s why. It’s interesting how dam is the root word for Adam.
Thank you for responding to this guy, he spreads a lot of misinformation about Catholicism, and faith alone in general
Name a verse that says where we should pray to or through Mary?
@ name a verse that says the Bible is the only infallible authority
@@EuropeanApple755 I asked a question first. I can answer that after. Don't jump
@@thelegendarygamer421 why would I need to name such a verse to do a such action if the Bible isn’t the only infallible authority? Unless you can show otherwise, we don’t need a verse for everything, when we don’t have a basis yet for the Bible being the only infallible authority.
@@EuropeanApple755 2 Timoty 3:16
1st John 4:1
Man I'm soooo glad you did a video on this guy and this particular video. His Theology and anti-Catholic rhetoric are way off. He seems like a nice guy but needs correcting.
That niceness about that guy gets to me because he doesn't have a learning spirit, he thinks his the teacher always
@@shanahendricks9831 I can understand that. Hopefully, Voice of Reason or another Catholic Apolgist takes him to task and points out his errors.
@@pchuck1439 that would be refreshing to see honestly
godNet mutes, and blocks fast
@@paul_321 I didn't know that. He did that to you?
Definitely will tune in to this debate 👍🏼
Wow I never knew that presumption is a sin. I learn something new. Please pray for me a sinner.
Great response💥 🙌🏻
Que Dios te bendiga 🙏
6:38 that verse always bothered me because (growing up protestant) NOBODY COULD EXPLAIN IT.
that was my first red flag “how do you all not know?”
Voice of Reason is either going to look silly, get angry, or concede during this discussion, good luck my friend i hope you make the right choice. God bless
13:33 "The standard they are appealing to is Scripture, not 'what does the high priest say.'"
Has he read the Gospels? Throughout them, people approach Jesus and ask what He has to say. Some to challenge Him, sometimes He references back to Scipture, but not always. The Jews of Jesus' time did not practice _sola scriptura,_ as evidenced by their interactions with Jesus.
. THE TEN COMMANDMENTS!
Old Testament vs. New Testament
1) Exodus 20:3 1) Matthew 4:10
2) Exo. 20:4-6 2) 1John 5:21
3) Exodus 20:7 3) 1Timothy 6:1
4)Exo. 20:8-11 4) Luke 23:56
5) Exodus 20:12 5) Matthew 19:19
6) Exodus 20:13 6) Romans 13:9
7) Exodus 20:14 7) Matthew 19:18
8) Exodus 20:15 8) Romans 13:9
9) Exodus 20:16 9) Romans 13:9
10) Exodus 20:17 10) Romans 7:7
God’s Law 👉The Eternal Covenant!
JESUS says keep Sabbath holy!
POPE says keep Sunday holy!
“The Bible says remember that thou keep the Sabbath day. The Catholic Church says, 'NO!'. By my divine power, I abolish the Sabbath day and command you to keep holy the first day of the week. And, lo, the entire civilized world bows down in reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic Church." Father Enright, American Sentinal, June 1893.
The WORD teaches 7th day is holy!
The WORLD teaches 1st day is holy!
SABBATH = (Exodus 20:8-11)
SUNDAY = (Mark 7:7)
WHO DO YOU 🫵 OBEY????
Peace be with you 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@protestant77😂🤡
@@sshamon72
🗣️SOLA SCRIPTURA‼️
👉(Matthew 4:4)
👉(Isaiah 8:20)
👉(2Timothy 3:16)
👉(Isaiah 28:10)
Peace be with 🙏🏽
Nice try. But you failed to understand and correctly interpret those very scriptures you quote. Get yourself a Catholic study Bible like the Great Adventure Bible. It'll open your eyes to scriptures and help you come out of your ignorance. Worshipping of ignorance is idolatry.
Thank you for this video, this really helped me learn more about our faith and some counter arguments. God bless 🙏
Only one thing. The red liquid pouring out of a rare steak IS NOT blood! It's a protein called myoglobin!
Net.God responded and addressed this and everything else
@@edgar5814 About steaks?
As an Orthodox guy, you should debate him. Well done man.
Voice of reason, he clapped back with a reply set up a discussion
he owned voice of reason lol
@ChristisLord99 not even close 💀 what video did bro watch even I a non catholic see the flaws in his reasoning, he argues from silence
And that's a fallacy
@@SportXtremezyou mean the opposite of this response? Just your opinion backed by? Noise? Don’t be a hypocrite, at least make a logical contribution when talking about scripture. Just opinion, and ad hominem only support an adherence to personal dogma
@SeekingTheTruth14er I'm not even catholic buddy 💀 whatchu mean personal dogma 😭😭😭 I just read the Bible and see what he says isn't found in the bible but what voice says is
@@SportXtremez for your voice to be heard in your quest for truth, you would have to include a specific example just to see if it is something that is within your understanding. Especially as this is not your wheelhouse
“Now it was the Feast of Dedication in Jerusalem, and it was winter.”
John 10:22 Don’t be fooled brothers, it doesn’t say Jesus was celebrating Hanukkah. My brother here is adding into the text. We gotta be careful who we listen to.
“Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the Tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.”
Colossians 2:8
Im LDS, and I really agree with your points on this protestant and Sola scriptura.
He always, cherry picks the Bible to fit his narrative.
You earned my subscription and like.
Please talk to him directly, I would love to watch!
4:55 about moral vs absolute certainty, why is then that the Catholic church decides a person to be a saint? If we or anyone of us don't have absolute certainty, does that mean the proclaimed saints were a bit likely not in heaven?
The Catholic church doesn’t decide who is a saint, they just recognize those who are already saints. There is significantly more saints in heaven that we are not aware of than canonized saints
@@vastalapasta9739 same question though, how does the church knows ABSOLUTELY that one is a saint?
@@Srhyle To be canonized as a saint, one must either be a martyr with one miracle attributed to their intercession(AKA someone asking a saint for help and the saints praying for that person on their behalf) or have two miracles attributed to their intercession. Finally, in some circumstances, with the pope’s approval, being a martyr with no miracles to their intercession is enough for someone to be canonized as saints. An example of this is the 21 Coptic Martyrs that Pope Francis canonized who where murder by islamic extremists.
@@vastalapasta9739 so that must be why the Pope infallibility doctrine is a must then. If not, it's just another opinion based on works or "moral certainty".
For his final point its important to note the Jews DIDleave, many followers wrre scandalized. Christ doesnt say "oh jk its a symbol" no, our Lord doubles down
You beat me to this point.
To add on, those that left towards the end of the Bread of Life Discourse were his disciples. They were on board with everything he was saying, until it came to eating his flesh and drinking his blood. They took his words at face value, not merely as a symbol.
If you are in the Light you will go to heaven.
Thanks for uploading this on RUclips as well 😊💞 Very interesting to watch
Voice of Reason I am a young Catholic and I do have one question. You said that every dogma of the Church is in the Bible, but I’ve never been able to find anything supporting the Assumption of Mary. As someone trying to defend the Church from the lies that are spreading it would be very helpful if you could show me which verses reference/can be interpreted as the Assumption of Mary. Thank you!
It’s not in the Bible. That’s why Roman Catholics have to say tradition and scripture are equal in authority since Marian dogmas, treasury of merit, infallibility of pope and magisterium, etc are not Biblical unless you do some eisegesis. Read the apostolic fathers (Clement, Ignatius, Polycarp) and you won’t see Mary mentioned other than virgin birth. Read Roman poet Ovid and you will see some parallels between the Roman Catholic devotion to Mary and Romans devotions to their gods. Because you have to ask yourself does this line from the Roman catechism below line up with the gospel that is Jesus Christ who did not even call Mary “mother” but always “woman” and also spoke Luke 11:27-28?
“Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix."
“But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ.”
2 Corinthians 11:3
In the Old Testament it is clear God did take body and soul Enoch (Gn. 5:24) and Elijah (2 Kings 2:11). Would it be fitting for Jesus to take His mother also? If we read Rev 11:19 in continuation to Rev. 12 we read that John saw the Ark and after a big storm he sees A GREAT SIGN, the Woman, which we believe is Mary AND a symbol of Israel. Church Fathers have expressed that this Ark is the New Ark, which hold The Word (commandment tablets), the Bread from above (mana), The High Priest (Aaron’s rod) which is Christ! Who had Christ INSIDE? Mary!! But to convince a protestant of this interpretation only the Holy Spirit can. Remember we Catholics are not Scripture “alone”. We have Apostolic Tradition AND Magisterium also. God bless!
@@atgredwell said!
@@atgred thank you for the explanation! I already knew the basic idea with how Enoch and Elijah were taken into Heaven and how it would make sense for Mary to be Assumed into Heaven, I just didn’t know about those other cross references. God Bless and thank you!
🗣️SOLA SCRIPTURA‼️
👉(Matthew 4:4)
👉(Isaiah 8:20)
👉(2Timothy 3:16)
👉(Isaiah 28:10)
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1 John 5.13 it's so ripped from its context. The next time a Protestant asks you this question about your certainty, and they quote this verse, ask them what is the meaning of "these things." There are two main themes running through the book of 1st John. First, love God by showing your obedience to him. Second, love your brothers. To the degree that you are loving God and others, you can have certainty, which in our fallen state is nearly impossible for us to obtain. That's why we have saints, those who have obtained.
He does viewer chats as part of his stream. Just hop on the stream and have a video chat with him. I'm sure it can be a respectful conversation.
Thank you for responding to this guy. He’s been spreading so much misinformation about Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, and it’s been getting really obnoxious. Seems like he’s a nice guy but not very open minded
True that's what every Prottie evangelicals are spreading false messages
Yeah using the bible to refute error is a real inconvience.
@@Caffer9286you mean he’s using his interpretation of the Bible.
@@alleydi8120 yeah he reads the words and believes them. Simple really
@@Caffer9286 really? I’m sure you don’t believe it’s that simple. All power to ya.
Bro he made a respond video to this and he simply cherry picked parts of your video and didn’t even address your arguments as a whole.
Don't they all do that lol
Were his arguments correct or not? Yes or no?
@@Based_Orthooono, in a debate you gotta address the whole arguments of that person. If not, you can’t respond to the actual argument your only dodging and not responding to
@@yblackieno. He didn’t address the whole thing and the things he avoided where kind of important. If you don’t address the whole thing in a debate, your just dodging and never responding to the arguments.
@@manueljardimfernandes9456 It's not a debate; it's a RUclips video response. The original video wasn't addressed to Voice of Reason. The question is, was what he said correct or not? Otherwise you're the one dodging and never responding to the arguments.
bro you just said we can lose out salvation??
thats confusing to hear do you not thibk Jesus dying in the cross was good enough to save . ?
do you really think you can control Gods Sheep . ? God the father will NEVER LET HIS SHEEP GET LOST !
if your a child of God you will always be .
dont say lies .
i pray you take this heavy .
you should trust in Jesu alone not your religion.
love you bro I can't waot to see you open your eurs to the true Gosple that has the power to save and not lose anyone . !
So for you ,how do we get saved?
The father gave us, the father can take us out.
John 15:(all)
Scripture say’s again and again you can loose your salvation.
You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. - Galatians 5:4
Romans 11:22
Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.
2 Pet 2:20
”It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”“
Romans 11:17-24
17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.
22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!
I suggest you take scripture for what it is and for whom it was written. That was for the Jews. Those of us who are Gentiles are under the new covenant. If you believe in the one true God, He is a sovereign God who is in control. I hope you don't think you can actually control God when He clearly says He will not lose any of His sheep. As a father myself, I will never stop being my child's father, no matter if they murder someone. I hope you find time to pray the silent prayer and keep learning. Never die on a hill you don't know because no one knows the secrets of God. I grew up in a cult; I know Pharisees when I see them. I also know a free gracer. There should be a fine line, and there is not! Keep believing in Christ, carry your cross, and you will be in heaven. Don't let the devil confuse you. Like I mentioned, if we were to think we were something greater than what God made us, we're totally wrong. There's nothing we can do to change that. Jesus died on the cross for you and for me and whoever believes in Him to have a turn of life and shall never perish.
he loves you and you can be sure of that .
try looking up Dispensalism.
it really helps when reading the Bible.
humble yourself to God and he will make you Strong Amen bro . God bless this Channel too I pray you can turn this around and make it right but Renouncing your Wrong Theology 🙏 Amen .
m.ruclips.net/video/WbKd1PhlMas/видео.html
The catholic church has really bad theology. The fact that you don't think that God's promise in John 3:16 works so you have to do good works? We do good works because we are saved not to get saved and this idea of being in grace is false. Please come to Christ 🙏🙏
I thought the Protestant position was "Faith alone saves". When did you guys update it?
Also, being in the state pf grace means being completely free from sin.
You should come to Christian 🇻🇦.
@@phenomenal821 we didn’t update faith alone. Ephesians 2:8-9 says saved by grace through faith none of our own doing so none may boast and also I’m always in the state of grace and also I want a verse about purgatory u didn’t give one
22:00 "This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance (ἀνάμνησιν) of me.” Luke 22:19
"Also in the day of your gladness, and in your set feasts, and in the beginnings of your months, you shall blow the trumpets over your burnt offerings, and over the sacrifices of your peace offerings; and they shall be to you for a remembrance (ἀνάμνησις) before your God. I am Yahweh your God." Numbers 10:10
The same word Jesus uses for the Eucharist in Luke is used for the sacrifices in the Feast of Trumpets in the Septuagint translation of Numbers. The remembrance is a sacrifice.
Great job bro. Roast them anti-Apostolic RUclipsrs.
As a Protestant, yes I would agree with you as the moral certainty being a good answer and shows how we have more in common on how we obtain salvation - through Grace by Faith. Staying in Grace is something some Protestants believe in as well (Church of Christ for example) while I don’t personally.
We can disagree on the Security of Salvation but we can agree on Yo!MTV Raps. Kids these days don’t even know.
I’m pretty sure most do except some non denoms, Baptist, and some OSAS people. 😊
While I am very happy to see you respond to this guy I will offer one minor correction. There is no blood in rare steak. It’s myoglobin. But there are foods which are made from blood like blood sausage.
On another note I simply can’t understand how Protestants are able to read John Chapter 6 and not have their heads explode. There’s no point arguing with them about this just show them the conversation that Jesus himself had at the time. He could not be making it any more clear.
i recently became catholic and i want to make my channel based on yours can you give me some advice
His complaint about the Jews not eating blood is correct, but the The Bread of Life discourse shows that some people did take Jesus’s message of “Eat my Flesh” literally and they were offended by it.
John 6:60-61 “When many of his disciples heard it, they said, ‘This teaching is difficult; who can accept it?’ But Jesus, being aware that his disciples were complaining about it, said to them, ‘Does this offend you?”
And a few verses later it mentions that some of his followers left because he doubled down in verses 62-65z
Great Response.
The funny thing is, is many of Jesus’s followers did leave him and say “woah Jesus what’re you saying?” When He said they’d have to eat His flesh and drink His blood in John 6. It wasn’t the last supper, but it did cause people to question Him when he foretold it
Exodus 18:13: "The next day Moses took his seat to serve as judge for the people, and they stood around him from morning till evening"
Great work voice of reason.
Voice of reason, more like Voice of False Preaching
@@NoahtheGameplayerneedgod needs God. Pretty ironic, huh?😂
Need God Net responded to you! I would like to hear your response or a chat between you two :)
Thank you very much brother in Christ for making this important and informative content. Continue to evangelize and defend the faith, doctrines and dogmas that have had been handed down from Jesus Christ Himself, His Apostles, Early Catholic Church Fathers and Christians and his holy successors until date.
You are awesome.
Furthermore, I pray for God's continuous divine blessings to you, your family and all the beautiful souls behind this 'RUclips Channel' and your ministry.
In the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.
NB: Please note that this guy (the person you are making the said video about) has made a counter video of this video. So it was like three 3 to four 4 days ago. Please go to his channel and locate that video and see if you can debunk the said counter video.
Gracias 🙏🏿🙏🏿
This anti-Catholic channel had the audacity to say the first council of Nicaea didn’t preach about Rome being the Primate, Apostolic See 😂 there’s an entire CANON covering that explicitly.
I put that on one of his videos in direct quotes with sources and I’m pretty sure I was instantly blocked. This guy isn’t a Christian WHATSOEVER.
15:10 did you all know that the Jews had to get something to read for Hanukkah because we (Christians) were using the Septuagint/Deuterocanon that had the Hanukkah reading?
"And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do(ποιεῖτε) in remembrance(ἀνάμνησις) of me." (Luke 22:19)
ποιεῖτε means 'to offer' It's the same word used in the book of Leviticus in the Geek suptuagent to offer up a sacrifice. If He simply ment to just do it he would have used a word like ποιέω.
ἀνάμνησις thats translated 'rememberence' means not just to remember, but 'to make present again' So, the one sacrifice (Hebrews 10:10) has always been represented at the Holy Mass.
Yeah, great work brother, keep it up
The guy is anti catholic, instead of debinking catholicism he should try defend christianity from the real threat
ryan defends christianity from all threats
You are one of the finest in Catholic apologetics ❤
Dang dude, I watched NeedGod's video first, and boy oh boy did he trim down your responses - his video really fails to show the strength and fullness of your arguments. I believe he is of good will, but his video does not do a good job of responding to a steel man. Keen to see a live discussion between you guys!
I thought the commencement of the feast of dedication was in Maccabees?
1 Mac. 4:36-59
2 Mac. 10:1-8
Not to be too harsh on the fellow Catholic but he did say we has going to be a Priest & is "into or loves this stuff " or something similar, so he should be more on point. The other dude is taking the text & imposing his doctrine into it. Could it not be read, that, "these things were written,( in that all these things including living these things, the faith out in obedience) that you may know you have eternal life."
He assumes that belief is in an intellectual aspect, & means you have a osas eternal salvation & everything else written is disregarded. This is the fruit of sola scriptura, & rotten at that...& so shallow it's low hanging.
Just more reason to appreciate the beauty & fullness of the holy faith. He is also ignoring or doesn't know of the Didache, from the Apostles of Christ....also in remembrance does not discount the true Presence of our Lord in the Eucharist at all, this is ridiculous & embarrassing, per Saint Paul a mere symbol does not bring judgement, plus himself & the Lord tells us it is His body & blood, in the cup of the Lord & truly truly. Pax Vobis
Alex, you have inspired me to study apologetics more
Just a correction, rare steak doesn't have blood, those are juices with myoglobin. But we still can eat blood, like Blood sausage, black pudding etc....
Love your work Brother. 👍👍👍
Very Enriching and Insightful in exposing the False Protestant Doctrine of Bible Alone and Eternal Security of Salvation ( Ones saved always saved....which is totally unbiblical ).
God Bless You for your work Brother 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@6:22 Paul remains in this state of continual training because he does not want to be disqualified. He is not talking about losing his salvation as a result of sin. Paul's own teaching is very clear that salvation is a gift, not something that comes as a result of strenuous effort (Ephesians 2:8-9). The prize he is running for is the crown of recognition
Like fr, how should we "remember" Him, when He's with us always until the very end of age?
You said condemnation.. but the text reads commendation, Paul writes that we will receive praise from the Lord not condemnation, it’s difficult for me to accept your teaching if you’re going to make a mistake like that
he responded to you and i cant even watch his vid cause i feel like hes clipping you out of context
I've been responding to their hateful comments.
Being a catholic in 2024 puzzles me greatly. Following man made rules knowing that the catholic church is anything but the truth is mad.
he said that he is open to debate/discussion. have you tought about calling him on his show (or invite to yours) and challenge his views on catholicism etc?
Why do Catholics do the Eucharist yet not partake in the "cup" (only on special occasions). If you're not partaking in the cup, then you're not even doing it right yourselves... 1 Cor 11:26 - "For as often as you eat this bread ""AND"" drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes."
I’m Catholic my church does every mass it depends on the church and Covid stopped it for a bit
The living water is a reference to the New Temple (Jesus) talked about by the prophet Ezekiel.
🗣️SOLA SCRIPTURA‼️
👉(Matthew 4:4)
👉(Isaiah 8:20)
👉(2Timothy 3:16)
👉(Isaiah 28:10)
Peace be with 🙏🏽
Not a SINGLE VERSE says scripture alone. All those verses say is that scripture is infallible. Nowhere does it say scripture is the ONLY infallible authority.
Thank you for quoting some verses that does not even support your claim ,prots are really so silly wow!sorry but I have to laugh in your face 😂😅😄
these verses confirm Sola scriptura thank you !
indeed we only know with certainty that Scripture is infallible ! therefore we can't declare that other things are infallible !
@@FTerrasson "And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever - the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you." - John 14:16-17
Jesus is giving the Apostles infalliable authority in the form of his Church "the Spirit of truth", that being the Holy Spirit, and he say "advocate to help you and be with you FOREVER" meaning the power is passed down through the Church. The Apostles and the unbroken chain of Popes have infalliable authority when giving Church dogmas.
@@EuropeanApple755 Jesus: "i will give you an advocate"; Catholic: "Yeaaah, he gives us all authority to declare the truth, whatever our interpretation! "
Actually, you sum up Catholicism very well, thank you. I guess...because I don't have the same interpretation as you that means I don't have the spirit of truth and only Catholics do (how convenient).
seriously....advocate= his role is to defend us/comfort us and specially against the prince of the world the king of lies and only the spirit of truth can do that.
nothing to do with an infallible authority that men want frome God.
Can you prove jesus "celebrated" hanukkah in scripture just because the scripture noted the time of season it was? The bible is constantly noting the time of year it was based on feasts and celebrations.
Please have him on the channel, would love to see a debate!
thanks!
One comment though. I believe we are not to eat blood as stated in ACTS (in two places). That was one of few restrictions put on gentiles. (Acts 15:28-29, one of those places)
The best argument against the Eucharistic symbolism is that the Bible says after Jesus said “Do this is remembrance of me?” Many disciples walked a way from him because they could not accept that teaching. Jesus didn’t say “Nah, it’s only a symbol of my body and blood.” He could have said something like that to clarify, but he didn’t. All he did was say to the Apostles “Are you going to leave me too?”
Good perspective. Another argument why the Eucharist can't be a symbol is because Jesus says that what He will give...that is what will be necessary to receive (consume) to attain eternal life. If the Bread of Life Discourse is simply His words that we must consume that will give us eternal life, then that perspective would imply that all that Jesus said previously is not required for eternal life. Only His future words (teaching) which was to come. It would then follow that all that He taught before was not necessary. Only that which was to come.
Hopefully that made sense. You may want to think about what I'm really trying to say.
Anyways, John 6:62 is the proof. The verse where they walked away is the only NT verse whose book, chapter, and verse contains 666...that is to say, John 6:66.
But going back to v62, when Jesus turned to the 12 and asked if they wanted to leave as well, He asked them, "Then what if you were to see the Son of man ascending where he was before?"
Jesus knows his inner circle has their doubts as well but he throws them a lifeline so by his question he is saying, in layman's term, "I know you have difficulties accepting what I'm telling you but if I ascended to heaven right before your very own eyes, would you believe me then that the bread and drink that I will give you will be my true flesh and blood?
John 6:62 is the proof.
@@TheGospelAccordingToMarkyDthank you both do you for these responses you are strengthening my faith 🙏
One thing we know for sure is that no one in the early church…no Jew under the old cov, nor Christian under the new cov. ever taught sola scriptura , so why does the Protestant persist in this error? Why does the protestant continue believe in a doctrine that no Christian ever heard of until the 1500s? I believe it’s a horrible lie to tell someone they can sin all they want and never lose their salvation. Telling ppl to sin and sin boldly is bad advice. Faith alone is a lie. The Bible says NOT by faith alone yet they continue w this error. They claim sola Scriptura but don’t know the Scriptura as well as they think.
He then acts as if they did anything but read the Bible on the Moses seat. Do some research Please They only read the Law from it. They did no preaching nor teaching of Tradition on it.
God should be your boss. You just admitted that money influences what we hear from you.
So, poor Christians who can't support you do not matter
Hey voice of reason can you make a video responding on Protestants point of view on speaking tongues specifically the Pentecostal denomination?
You should get in contact and do live stream. I’d be UP FOR IT!
Acts 15.29 - obstain from blood and things strangled. Plus steak contains myoglobin not haemoglobin (as in blood cells) so no a rare steak does not technically contain blood.