I found in my research that every family has a tid bit of information that was passed down. I'm trying to get permission to do a documentary on the Makah bow and arrow next.
@@JuandelaCruz001 my grandfather was from there. I just did a genetic test and some distant relatives showed up from Philippines. I never knew him. only his name.
@@JasonToddRoberts "Ikinagagalak kong makilala ka, kaibigan." (I'm happy to meet you, my friend). I'm also a former senior student of an FMA maestro years ago, but I'm semi-retired now.
@@JasonToddRoberts Our traditional "bone breakers" used for war is what is popularly called a "garrote". A flat stick made from black palm 🌴 which is as resilient as hardwoods but resists cracking because it's tough fibrous structure. It also has a hole for a lanyard also for retention.
This weapon reminds me allot of the Patu (the Maori war club). The Patu is used as an extension of your fist, meaning you can 'box' with it. I imagine this clubbed weapon was probably used in a similar fashion.
Thanks for that thought, I'm pretty sure the butt end was used for hitting too because lots of broken fragments of the weapon have been found too. It's like they saved them for souvenirs.
@@JasonToddRoberts Yep, the butt end of the club looks very similar to our clubs. The butt end is definitely used for striking. In Mau Rakau (Maori Martial Arts) we do sparring with the Patu. Here's are some videos of how we use our clubs - ruclips.net/video/HNT8F2TrUvU/видео.html&ab_channel=Kairakau ruclips.net/video/bykO0gM-xY8/видео.html&ab_channel=MauiTV ruclips.net/video/gqlSZ1CQEuQ/видео.html&ab_channel=mb1968nz
No no no.. the patu has far more natural inertia being carved from hard stones.. giving the flicking action or boxing with it… I would look at other tribes.. Comanche and Cherokee
@@JasonToddRoberts Would you be willing to sell a whale bone club to me? I collect weapons for their beauty and meaning and would be so honored to add one to my collection it would mean so so much to me.
All of the Makah ones I've seen have a Thunderbird and the design was consistent for hundreds of years. After making clubs if various shapes and sizes for testing I realized there is an ideal weight shape and size. 5 pounds is too heavy and 2 pounds is a little too light.
Thank you for highlighting your culture and history. Very interesting! I used to make bone pendants and the bone itself can be very brittle, if the bone was too much time in the sun, if it's to dry and if the fatty components are gone. I used to remove the fat from bones by cooking them in water in which I added washing powder for washing clothes.
I'm surprised i missed the war clubs at the museum. I go up to the the Makah Reservation to visit family. I'm always eager to learn more about my ancestors and how they fought and lived
Yes they are tucked away in the corner. I missed them for years too and I live here. I took notice years later when I kept seeing Makah War Clubs in collections accross the country. Then I wanted to find out why so many of them were made.
@@jonathanbeck5765 It’s pretty rare, I have been luck and located enough to work with. Yew wood is the next obvious choice, Do you want one for the artistic value or to train with? I make training ones are well. They are the same shape and weight but have blunt ends wo you don’t have to worry about injuring anyone.
I think that the cracking noise could difinantly serve as a preaty powerful form of psychological warfare and perhaps thats part of what makes these things so special.
If you take a look at how the Maori used their similar clubs for thrusting movements. They would split the opponent's face with a thrusting jab right into the face. For a non-lethal stunning blow they thrust into the solar plexus to knock the opponent out without killing them.,
A club like this definantly could have caused preaty nasty cuts even though it wouldn't have necessarily been on par with a sword it still would hurt preaty bad.
Gary Naccarto one detail I didn’t add was that the lanyard was used because when the club was covered with blood it was hard to hold. This tells me that whoever was yielding it was able to kill multiple people in battle. The broken ones were saved. Several where found at an archeological dig. I’m guessing it was so they had something to share when they were telling battle stories.
I’m guessing that the lines were not carved with a blade… it seems it would be vastly easier to abrade… like a rock edge used as a file or saw… easy going on the arms
Thanks for the video. I've seen someone making Hawaiian war clubs that have a similar appearance. Those don't have the thunderbird, but the overall look is similar. Both are interesting. Did you ever figure out how to use it so that it wouldn't break?
Is it possible historians are misunderstanding accounts, and these were ceremonial? Two reasons I say this: First, it seems like a waste to spend so long decorating something and devoting so many resources (specifically valuable time) to something that would get damaged in combat. Second, the first hit broke the bone one, but the wood ones held up. Maybe the wood ones were actually used, and less ornate, but deteriorated over time, and the ceremonial/ornate bone ones survived.
No, it’s name means split your face, there are lots of broken ones in the archives. Among them are wood ones too for sealing and fishing.There are stories about how the war clubs were concealed and used for surprise attacks. One story tells of how other digging sticks were used in battle.
Alil simular to Maori Toa, weapons, culture, even to the canoes? Rumours of our origins are still not proven. If your interested, you might want to check out if there may be a connection? I am am Maori.
Just to be clear this is absolutely no less advanced than steel, and used in hot areas preferably OVER steel because steel overheats in the intense sun, making plate and even ring armor much less viable. In other words this is no primitive tool, it is an optimized and lethal weapon! Very valuable skills to learn to use one too bc if you can use this you can use a knife!
@@Lvl18Meep no, it always depends on the situation. They’re lighter than steel and it’s a bludgeoning weapon so I’m not comparing it to a knife I’m comparing to a thin steel baton. And for a club? Yes, bone and wood are both great materials even today. They’re just expensive.
Is it possible that they were aiming for the neck or the arms???? Bone material is hard but brittle.. wood is hard but also soft ...yet...the French and English..even in Germany...they were producing tomahawk's for the native American Indians because of the material of metal.
Can I buy a club? Also, these are somewhat similar is design to the Jade and Wooden clubs called Mere and Patu that the Maori tribes of Polynesia used historically.
Yes very similar. I’m going to be making some steel replicas to see how they perform. I recently got a plasma cutter. I could make you a wood or steel one. Whale bone has restrictions on how it can be used commercially.
The lack of subject material on these tribes,their weapons and tactics is saddening, but this video is exactly what I've been looking for thank you.
I found in my research that every family has a tid bit of information that was passed down. I'm trying to get permission to do a documentary on the Makah bow and arrow next.
Very interesting! Good to know that the cultures are working to preserve their heritage!
Thanks for sharing your traditional weapons and martial culture. Respect from the Philippines.
I'm part Philippine too.
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Wow! 👋👊👍
@@JuandelaCruz001 my grandfather was from there. I just did a genetic test and some distant relatives showed up from Philippines. I never knew him. only his name.
@@JasonToddRoberts
"Ikinagagalak kong makilala ka, kaibigan." (I'm happy to meet you, my friend). I'm also a former senior student of an FMA maestro years ago, but I'm semi-retired now.
@@JasonToddRoberts Our traditional "bone breakers" used for war is what is popularly called a "garrote". A flat stick made from black palm 🌴 which is as resilient as hardwoods but resists cracking because it's tough fibrous structure. It also has a hole for a lanyard also for retention.
This weapon reminds me allot of the Patu (the Maori war club). The Patu is used as an extension of your fist, meaning you can 'box' with it. I imagine this clubbed weapon was probably used in a similar fashion.
Thanks for that thought, I'm pretty sure the butt end was used for hitting too because lots of broken fragments of the weapon have been found too. It's like they saved them for souvenirs.
@@JasonToddRoberts Yep, the butt end of the club looks very similar to our clubs. The butt end is definitely used for striking. In Mau Rakau (Maori Martial Arts) we do sparring with the Patu. Here's are some videos of how we use our clubs - ruclips.net/video/HNT8F2TrUvU/видео.html&ab_channel=Kairakau ruclips.net/video/bykO0gM-xY8/видео.html&ab_channel=MauiTV ruclips.net/video/gqlSZ1CQEuQ/видео.html&ab_channel=mb1968nz
No no no.. the patu has far more natural inertia being carved from hard stones.. giving the flicking action or boxing with it… I would look at other tribes.. Comanche and Cherokee
You did an amazing job with making this video. This is national geographic grade quality.
Beautiful. I would love to see more unique weapons or similar stuff!
I am just about done making another club. Stay tuned I have a video planned on makeing a Makah War Club from start to finish.
@@JasonToddRoberts Would you be willing to sell a whale bone club to me? I collect weapons for their beauty and meaning and would be so honored to add one to my collection it would mean so so much to me.
whale bone war clubs were common throughout the northwest coast, mostly based on the same design with the thunderbird head etc, thanks for the video
All of the Makah ones I've seen have a Thunderbird and the design was consistent for hundreds of years. After making clubs if various shapes and sizes for testing I realized there is an ideal weight shape and size. 5 pounds is too heavy and 2 pounds is a little too light.
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These Makah war clubs are very similar to Māori war clubs the Pātu and Mere.
Thank you for highlighting your culture and history. Very interesting! I used to make bone pendants and the bone itself can be very brittle, if the bone was too much time in the sun, if it's to dry and if the fatty components are gone. I used to remove the fat from bones by cooking them in water in which I added washing powder for washing clothes.
This was SO fascinating!!! Thanks for sharing this knowledge
the break was hard to watch O.O, awesome video! I love learning about new weapon types!
Excellent video!
I'm surprised i missed the war clubs at the museum. I go up to the the Makah Reservation to visit family. I'm always eager to learn more about my ancestors and how they fought and lived
Yes they are tucked away in the corner. I missed them for years too and I live here. I took notice years later when I kept seeing Makah War Clubs in collections accross the country. Then I wanted to find out why so many of them were made.
@@JasonToddRoberts Yeah i'm interested in trying to see about getting either a bone war club or even out of wood
I almost have a bone one done.
@@JasonToddRoberts how hard is it to get a piece of whale jaw bone?
@@jonathanbeck5765 It’s pretty rare, I have been luck and located enough to work with. Yew wood is the next obvious choice, Do you want one for the artistic value or to train with? I make training ones are well. They are the same shape and weight but have blunt ends wo you don’t have to worry about injuring anyone.
Fascinating! Great video, thank you.
I think that the cracking noise could difinantly serve as a preaty powerful form of psychological warfare and perhaps thats part of what makes these things so special.
I'm definantly preaty impressed.Thanks for the video.
Thank you for this treasure
Wow that’s amazing ❤
Makana is the name of a war club in Taino. The word Macana is also murder in some brazilian tribes
Great video
If you take a look at how the Maori used their similar clubs for thrusting movements. They would split the opponent's face with a thrusting jab right into the face. For a non-lethal stunning blow they thrust into the solar plexus to knock the opponent out without killing them.,
These weapons are very similar in style to the Māori jade clubs.
A club like this definantly could have caused preaty nasty cuts even though it wouldn't have necessarily been on par with a sword it still would hurt preaty bad.
Gary Naccarto one detail I didn’t add was that the lanyard was used because when the club was covered with blood it was hard to hold. This tells me that whoever was yielding it was able to kill multiple people in battle. The broken ones were saved. Several where found at an archeological dig. I’m guessing it was so they had something to share when they were telling battle stories.
I’m guessing that the lines were not carved with a blade… it seems it would be vastly easier to abrade… like a rock edge used as a file or saw… easy going on the arms
It interesting to hear about escrima practitioners experimenting with a weapon like this.
Thanks for the video.
I've seen someone making Hawaiian war clubs that have a similar appearance. Those don't have the thunderbird, but the overall look is similar. Both are interesting.
Did you ever figure out how to use it so that it wouldn't break?
Whale bone had grain like wood. I think I was suppose to follow the grain while I was making it. I cut across the grain when I made that one.
@@JasonToddRoberts Thanks! That makes sense.
Boil the bent section for 2 hours on high heat and straighten the bent section
Is it possible historians are misunderstanding accounts, and these were ceremonial? Two reasons I say this: First, it seems like a waste to spend so long decorating something and devoting so many resources (specifically valuable time) to something that would get damaged in combat. Second, the first hit broke the bone one, but the wood ones held up. Maybe the wood ones were actually used, and less ornate, but deteriorated over time, and the ceremonial/ornate bone ones survived.
No, it’s name means split your face, there are lots of broken ones in the archives. Among them are wood ones too for sealing and fishing.There are stories about how the war clubs were concealed and used for surprise attacks. One story tells of how other digging sticks were used in battle.
Alil simular to Maori Toa, weapons, culture, even to the canoes?
Rumours of our origins are still not proven.
If your interested, you might want to check out if there may be a connection?
I am am Maori.
Very nice video. Klecko klecko!
Just to be clear this is absolutely no less advanced than steel, and used in hot areas preferably OVER steel because steel overheats in the intense sun, making plate and even ring armor much less viable. In other words this is no primitive tool, it is an optimized and lethal weapon! Very valuable skills to learn to use one too bc if you can use this you can use a knife!
These bone clubs are much lass advanced than any metal tool. No doubt they are lethal but i mean come one man, these are objectively less advanced.
@@Lvl18Meep no, it always depends on the situation. They’re lighter than steel and it’s a bludgeoning weapon so I’m not comparing it to a knife I’m comparing to a thin steel baton. And for a club? Yes, bone and wood are both great materials even today. They’re just expensive.
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Is it possible that they were aiming for the neck or the arms???? Bone material is hard but brittle.. wood is hard but also soft ...yet...the French and English..even in Germany...they were producing tomahawk's for the native American Indians because of the material of metal.
Can I buy a club? Also, these are somewhat similar is design to the Jade and Wooden clubs called Mere and Patu that the Maori tribes of Polynesia used historically.
Yes very similar. I’m going to be making some steel replicas to see how they perform. I recently got a plasma cutter.
I could make you a wood or steel one. Whale bone has restrictions on how it can be used commercially.
Wasting whale jaw that definantly sad to see happen however the thought of seeing one of these tested and everything going right is exciting.
In the Caribbean that a Makana.
I think it broke because you hit an old hard skull.
Looks like maori patu
日本からこんにちは。from japan.
ありがとう、マカ族から