Jim Rogers: "Time To Worry" About China's Economic Troubles and Market Overexuberance

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  • Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
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    Today, we are privileged to welcome Jim Rogers, investing legend and co-founder of the Quantum Fund, which famously returned 4200% over just 10 years.
    In this episode, Jim discusses the overexuberance that he believes is ramping up in global markets in 2024. One exception to this trend is China, which is going through a period of “despair” following its real estate bubble.
    Jim also mentions why he's investing in countries like Uzbekistan before sharing insights into his long/short investment strategy and the key qualities of a successful investor. Enjoy!
    Key Takeaways:
    0:06 How to Invest Like Jim Rogers
    4:48 Japan's Economic Highs and Lows
    9:49 Market Overexuberance Concerns
    15:00 China's Real Estate Bubble
    20:08 Risks of Escalating Wars
    25:28 Economic Troubles Ahead
    30:48 Lessons on Successful Investing
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Комментарии • 169

  • @OptoThemes
    @OptoThemes  Месяц назад +1

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  • @flashfuture27
    @flashfuture27 2 месяца назад +18

    Few years back, Jim wanted everyone to go all in on China

    • @shauna996
      @shauna996 2 месяца назад +4

      Yes, I remember an interview with him a few years ago saying China was ascendant and it was going to be the best investment choice for decades.

    • @flashfuture27
      @flashfuture27 2 месяца назад +8

      @shauna996 I've always respected Jim, but I always felt funny about his views in China. Never thought a centralized command style economy could predict market outcomes.

    • @sulavaca
      @sulavaca Месяц назад +2

      ​@@flashfuture27You're correct. China's central command had destroyed and suppressed the economy for a hundred years, but then they reduced their central command control, at first when they allowed "special economic zones", which were free of many government prohibitions and regulations. This is what Jim saw all those years ago.

    • @ednan9
      @ednan9 Месяц назад

      You’re funny - write before watching video - became victim of click bait

    • @oldernu1250
      @oldernu1250 Месяц назад +1

      Remember he moved there, tried to learn language. Obviously smart man who was also fooled by the CCP.

  • @user-hv3uf7om6g
    @user-hv3uf7om6g 2 месяца назад +14

    Jim Rogers used to be a big cheer leader of Chinese economy.

  • @nmatthew7469
    @nmatthew7469 2 месяца назад +11

    Boy, Jim has changed his tune a bit after moving to the far east a decade ago, having his kids learn Chinese, thought it was all the future Jim.?

  • @Canadian_Eh_I
    @Canadian_Eh_I 2 месяца назад +12

    Didnt Jim used to think that China was going to take over as the the strongest economy in the world? Just wondering if he changed his mind on that?

  • @cheesy132
    @cheesy132 2 месяца назад +23

    Rarely does Jim Rogers reveal any new insights.

    • @kongakau5058
      @kongakau5058 2 месяца назад +3

      Nothing new here

    • @robichard
      @robichard 2 месяца назад

      And he is always vague about his role in the founding of the Quantum Fund with George Soros. I have always wondered why.

    • @fruitloops3718
      @fruitloops3718 2 месяца назад +5

      Thanks for letting me know. It's always the same old folksy manner of speaking saying buy low and sell high. What genius I tell you.

    • @akashmurthy7464
      @akashmurthy7464 Месяц назад

      Lucky people getting old sound like him. Never had anything worthy to contribute.

  • @Larrye123
    @Larrye123 2 месяца назад +8

    Only a few US tech stocks are rising. Am I correct?

  • @issenvan1050
    @issenvan1050 2 месяца назад +12

    No timestamps?

  • @cstevenson5256
    @cstevenson5256 2 месяца назад +3

    It is not a bubble that is the problem, it stills has a property bubble, an asset bubble overall, but it has an economic model problem.

  • @OptoThemes
    @OptoThemes  2 месяца назад +4

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  • @issenvan1050
    @issenvan1050 2 месяца назад +4

    Should silver behave like gold or copper during a recession?

  • @mikec4845
    @mikec4845 2 месяца назад +10

    I love how everyone wants to know how the people like Jim Rogers got wealthy. If people like Jim Rogers told everyone how they did it and everyone followed their paths, how are people like Jim Rogers going to get rich if everyone is doing what they did? Jim Rogers NEEDS people like us to get rich otherwise no one will get rich.

    • @medialcanthus9681
      @medialcanthus9681 2 месяца назад +2

      Family secret recipes are only handed down to family.

    • @yongdeng1813
      @yongdeng1813 2 месяца назад +3

      Some wise man once said” when someone is coming out with a book about how to get rich,everytjing in the book is outdated”…

  • @issenvan1050
    @issenvan1050 2 месяца назад +4

    Markets are by & large a popularity contest.

  • @duong055
    @duong055 2 месяца назад +3

    Good interview

  • @tonysu8860
    @tonysu8860 2 месяца назад +4

    Japan's economy hasn't been contracting because of financial management only, Japan has been able to counteract the effects of a declining population by being one of the world's leaders in advanced automation and technology. Japan remains hughly productive as the global #4(dropping one spot to India only this past month) econy as measured by GDP.

  • @kahvac
    @kahvac 2 месяца назад +3

    Maybe this time its different.....Jim knows better !

  • @riojoe5156
    @riojoe5156 2 месяца назад +51

    Shouldn't you worry about US economy?

    • @phil20_20
      @phil20_20 2 месяца назад +1

      You mean with the highest GDP ever and falling post-Covid inflation?

    • @Theactualclips
      @Theactualclips 2 месяца назад +4

      He was talking about the US’s tech bubble. The video’s title was clickbait.
      About how the Tech market is a giant bubble.

    • @lisizecha9759
      @lisizecha9759 2 месяца назад

      He does, but he is not ready to sell short just yet

    • @cstevenson5256
      @cstevenson5256 2 месяца назад

      Why? We don't have industries operating at 30% capacity and a bunch of wasting assets. We don't have empty housing fully price controlled at highest value that is empty and able to house 1.4 to 3 billion people while having the fastest collapsing demography in world. We don't rely on exports to employ our people. We aren't a developing country whose debt profile is as high as an advanced country. We don't have a GDP that doesn't write off bad investments, but collateralized them, increases bad assets by rolling over unpaid interest into next year's loans and have a banking sector whose assets are so bloated. If China wrote off bad investments its economy would shrink 40 to 60% and its assets would disappear. The thing is, you people have told yourselves the wrong story for so long.

    • @cstevenson5256
      @cstevenson5256 2 месяца назад

      The biggest

  • @issenvan1050
    @issenvan1050 2 месяца назад +3

    So, gold & silver bottom before the other markets do?

    • @ProNetUSA
      @ProNetUSA 2 месяца назад +1

      Good question.

  • @leelaitiam19
    @leelaitiam19 Месяц назад

    Jim is sane . He is right in how war is started and people don't know how to get out.

  • @hubaermi
    @hubaermi 2 месяца назад +1

    Good good.

  • @Userr-Chen-Chen
    @Userr-Chen-Chen 2 месяца назад +10

    Mr Jim Rogers 👍

  • @bccoregon
    @bccoregon 2 месяца назад +1

    When did this interview take place?

    • @ednan9
      @ednan9 Месяц назад

      At noon

  • @ric6074
    @ric6074 2 месяца назад +12

    Why you worry China, you should worry your own country instead, 34T debts, day in day out piling up with no signs of stagnation.

    • @jbrown6367
      @jbrown6367 2 месяца назад

      LGFVs are crumbling, Wumao.

    • @Sticks-of-TNT-tf1tn
      @Sticks-of-TNT-tf1tn 2 месяца назад

      He’s lived in Singapore for almost two decades. 🧨

    • @todd1547
      @todd1547 2 месяца назад +1

      We worry China because China fall apart. America have problems, but small compare to China for examper, there no baby in China.

    • @ric6074
      @ric6074 2 месяца назад

      Is better to save your own skin, rather then worrying about other people.

  • @davidc4408
    @davidc4408 25 дней назад

    How does he invest in these developing countries and how does he short them?

  • @junlifang2896
    @junlifang2896 2 месяца назад +2

    🎉🎉

  • @hengbin2974
    @hengbin2974 2 месяца назад +1

    Jim Rogers put his own $ into his investments, unlike GIC/TH. JR has been successful. In contrast SGP's govt has to make up its humongous losses by increasing GST & a host of other charges. PSA, a 100% TH sub tried to sell off its stake in PRC ports which PSA Int. bought in 2005/2006 amounting to US$5.5 BILLION, without success for several months recently. Speaks volumes about the incompetence of LHL/HC management of our reserves........meanwhile US & Japanese stock mkts hit record highs........BUT PRC;s indices suffered huge losses.

  • @issenvan1050
    @issenvan1050 2 месяца назад +4

    How can Japan survive with this level of debt/gdp?

    • @Theactualclips
      @Theactualclips 2 месяца назад +1

      Because of the banks, I think? It runs differently from western nations. If any western nation had that level of debt, it would be worse off than Japan.

    • @issenvan1050
      @issenvan1050 2 месяца назад

      @@Theactualclips Can you explain a little?

    • @stevenoliver7120
      @stevenoliver7120 2 месяца назад

      I believe it's because almost all of the debt is owed to its own citizens and not to foreigners.

    • @issenvan1050
      @issenvan1050 2 месяца назад

      @@stevenoliver7120 How would that make a difference?

    • @stevenoliver7120
      @stevenoliver7120 2 месяца назад

      I can only presume it's a form of MMT which would present the nation's economy as a balance sheet with the private sector (the people) on one side, and the government (owned by the people) on the other side. Entire books have been written on this. I'm not really qualified to explain it.

  • @fruitloops3718
    @fruitloops3718 2 месяца назад +7

    Jim seems very down these days. He must have lost a shit ton of money from chinas market crash. He really loves china as he made alot of money on the way up. However china never gives up anything of value. Never invest in china unless you're prepared to loose everything you've invested.

    • @ednan9
      @ednan9 Месяц назад

      May be his young wife bailed on him :)

  • @karlopeternel7685
    @karlopeternel7685 Месяц назад

    Such an investor legend ✨️👊✨️
    Such a cowboy investor legend ✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️

  • @jacintochua6885
    @jacintochua6885 2 месяца назад +8

    Could this be a hyoe to scare investors to leave so others can take over? It's been dine before.

    • @maxpervaiz568
      @maxpervaiz568 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes, since is likely shorting.

  • @michaelgreen398
    @michaelgreen398 2 месяца назад +47

    Dont worry about china they are doing fine

    • @DerDop
      @DerDop 2 месяца назад +3

      lol :))

    • @soha7271
      @soha7271 2 месяца назад +10

      Why so many people worry about China these days? The worst days were over and the property crisis is easing off now. Things start to resume and people at art spending money again since the beginning of 2024. Why I know cos I live here😅

    • @peanut0brain
      @peanut0brain 2 месяца назад

      ​@@DerDoplol what mf?

    • @user-ex9je5fm5e
      @user-ex9je5fm5e 2 месяца назад +8

      I am in China over 15 years.. Everything is fine here as you just mentioned.

    • @DerDop
      @DerDop 2 месяца назад

      @@user-ex9je5fm5e lol again :)))

  • @tonysu8860
    @tonysu8860 2 месяца назад +1

    Despite negative comments I see posted, IMO Jim Rogers'discussion appears to be fair. He touches on the umportance of timing investments, the state of the Dollar, economic bubbles and a lot more based on his life experience. Everything can be debatable and open fo discussion but aren't particularly radical.

  • @jtrealfunny
    @jtrealfunny 2 месяца назад +1

    Is the current environment of 'easing while tightening' or fiscal stimulus with restrictive fed rates a new thing? It would seem to explain the above expectation growth numbers and delayed recession. Someone posited that it has been the illegal immigrants who are boosting our economy above expectations; I like that one.
    If the Fed and Treasury are in the process of inflating us out of our fiscal deficit, what would that look like in terms of magnitude, meaning how long and what levels of inflation would be necessary to accomplish this.

  • @joelferguson8714
    @joelferguson8714 2 месяца назад +4

    Jim was in the right place at the right time.

  • @patay168
    @patay168 Месяц назад

    Downturn is not bad. Everything should slow down.

  • @billstenos1043
    @billstenos1043 2 месяца назад +2

    jim rogers howv times have changed when mr rogers was the Chinese optimist

  • @bradleyhalfacre7992
    @bradleyhalfacre7992 2 месяца назад

    Rogers and co. always talk up their own book.

  • @lisizecha9759
    @lisizecha9759 2 месяца назад +4

    @25:00 he dodges the AI question twice
    Think about it, he is not willing to discount the idea, that workers might be able to reduce their work week to three days due to productivity gains

  • @tonysu8860
    @tonysu8860 2 месяца назад

    Any idea excessive liquidity is driving rhe USA econimy rise is tupid and uninformed. The Fed announced over 6 minths ago it had sucked out all the liquidity unjected into the economy due to Pandemic aid. Current performance is entirely the strength of the US and not due to any manipulation or trickery.
    There is some concern about the debt payments that will become due related to the increase un the National Debt but for know is considered manageable as ling as the current demand for US sovereign debt remains high and hopefully interest rates will decreae soon. But conditions would have to radically change for the current US financial strategy to change significantly.

  • @Juoa794
    @Juoa794 2 месяца назад +2

    He’s definitely not excited at really answering questions in this interview…

  • @BugMateo
    @BugMateo Месяц назад

    If someone like Rogers, a Chinese economic apologist, is worried... things must be serious

  • @user-ij1lk9kd6z
    @user-ij1lk9kd6z 2 месяца назад +2

    Seems like the host has no idea how to ask great questions in front of one old legend of Wall Street.😅

  • @paulstanak689
    @paulstanak689 2 месяца назад +26

    Home boy , you should worry about US economy first, China has been around for five thousand years !!!!! They will out do everybody.

    • @Theactualclips
      @Theactualclips 2 месяца назад

      He was talking about the US’s tech bubble. The video’s title was clickbait.
      About how the Tech market is a giant bubble.

    • @MrJamezy
      @MrJamezy 2 месяца назад

      Been around for 5,000 years yet doesn't have the gdp of the USA a country that is only 250 years old and has a population less than 1/3 of China.
      China is crashing its obvious.

    • @lisizecha9759
      @lisizecha9759 2 месяца назад

      China yes, but Chinese people have been eating dirt for large stretches.
      Now they can just take a plane to Mexico and cross the border

    • @nmatthew7469
      @nmatthew7469 2 месяца назад +1

      It's easy to succeed when you have the entire US manufacturing sector literally boxed up and shipped to China for free to employ their massive cheap labor force. Then, give them free shipping and tariff free open access to the US. Now that this gravy train has run dry, seems like they're trying to find people to sell stuff to.

    • @oldernu1250
      @oldernu1250 Месяц назад

      China has had many horrific cycles. Oh yeah, remember CCP has tried to destroy cultural past--remember the great leap forward? Civil wars? Invasions? Han genocide wars?

  • @karlopeternel7685
    @karlopeternel7685 Месяц назад

    Just we should buy Cardano ADA or even better Midnight privacy thing once it comes out in the beginning of the next year, or even privacy COTI right now.
    Yes, privacy COTI now and Midnight in Q1 in 2025.
    Those are highly sure things.

  • @fredfannin7603
    @fredfannin7603 2 месяца назад

    Bad business plan to threaten your biggest trading partner.

  • @jbrown6367
    @jbrown6367 2 месяца назад +1

    These questions are terrible.

  • @bccoregon
    @bccoregon 2 месяца назад

    Is this anew interview, or a recycled interview from long ago?

  • @user-my7wn6ps1y
    @user-my7wn6ps1y 2 месяца назад

    How do US people sleep?😢

  • @WORLDPEACE2628
    @WORLDPEACE2628 2 месяца назад +7

    Jim has been a doomsday preacher for the last 2 decades amd yet the U.S.A stock market kept going highet and mightier!

    • @johnnyq4260
      @johnnyq4260 2 месяца назад +4

      The stock market is not the real economy.

    • @maxpervaiz568
      @maxpervaiz568 2 месяца назад +2

      Yes, he is a permabear. He made his money via shorting. Looks like he lost some money in the past couple of years on shorting.

    • @MrCLAASS
      @MrCLAASS 2 месяца назад +2

      Contrarily, Rodgers is always right. He valuess things in gold, not US dollars...

    • @joelferguson8714
      @joelferguson8714 2 месяца назад

      That doesn't make him a liar. After all there's nothing about fiat being real. Just a casino with magic rules.

    • @lewsmall1306
      @lewsmall1306 2 месяца назад +1

      He will eventually be right someday

  • @akcj875
    @akcj875 2 месяца назад +2

    Now the joker is crying for China..dissing growth in India and making ppl miss out on next growth engine

  • @SteveSentosa
    @SteveSentosa 2 месяца назад

    I've got out NOTHING from the vid.

  • @oldernu1250
    @oldernu1250 Месяц назад

    "Stocks don't go up forever"--pan to Opto looking like someone stole his binky.

  • @Theactualclips
    @Theactualclips 2 месяца назад +1

    That’s what I’ve been saying. The tech market is a bubble. For example, Apple makes around 90 billion every year (net). But it’s worth 2.67 trillion. Meaning it would take close to 30 years to actually make its valuation. But then we have Saudi aramco worth about 2.017 trillion, but makes over 350 billion every year. Meaning it would take around 5 years to make back the valuation.
    I personally feel like the tech market is hyped especially in the US, it makes too little for its valuation. It’s a bubble.
    (Although most people just take loans against their stocks. Which they have to pay back). My point is, it’s a bubble.

  • @jshomer8773
    @jshomer8773 2 месяца назад +1

    Jim, admit you're wrong about China and keep quiet from now on.

  • @amunra5330
    @amunra5330 Месяц назад

    Is this another China collapsing discussion 🙄

  • @MH-lb4fo
    @MH-lb4fo 2 месяца назад +9

    China despair???? Isn't the whole world in despair? Why China? This kind of headline of China negativity doesn't work anymore.

    • @jbrown6367
      @jbrown6367 2 месяца назад

      But only China is in a deflationary spiral.

    • @lisizecha9759
      @lisizecha9759 2 месяца назад

      He mentions their reliance on real estate. What's your opinion?

  • @gregt5530
    @gregt5530 Месяц назад

    I remember he was the biggest china bull EVER. moved there, had his kids learn the language etc. I just he wasted decades on that disaster of a call, and the impact on his life surely negative.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 2 месяца назад

    divine central authority unity with substantive human rights choice for international law overcome political government separation from God

  • @barryshaw5660
    @barryshaw5660 2 месяца назад

    Hey jim say hello to your boss George Soros.

  • @darinthesecularspiritualist
    @darinthesecularspiritualist 2 месяца назад

    Silver could go down? Please retire

  • @garryhuang6652
    @garryhuang6652 2 месяца назад +10

    this guy is a forever China bull. Don't know how he can do that

    • @gusdeng6082
      @gusdeng6082 2 месяца назад +2

      Paid to tell untruths and half truths.

    • @brianliew5901
      @brianliew5901 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@gusdeng6082 Uncle Sam paid him?

    • @milexiangyangli5666
      @milexiangyangli5666 2 месяца назад +3

      (He's) - A - (Multi - Billionaire) - 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 - (He's) - Been - (Successful) - ✅️ ✅️ ✅️ ✅️ ✅️ -

    • @fredfrond6148
      @fredfrond6148 2 месяца назад +2

      @@milexiangyangli5666does not need the money.

    • @milexiangyangli5666
      @milexiangyangli5666 2 месяца назад

      @@fredfrond6148 - (Bingo) - 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 - (The - Reason) - (He) - is - (Telling - It) - Like - (It - is) - ✋️✋️✋️✋️✋️ -

  • @joostonline5146
    @joostonline5146 2 месяца назад +1

    Jim is getting old

  • @popcorn6931
    @popcorn6931 2 месяца назад

    Not much substance.

  • @wimvanaerde6249
    @wimvanaerde6249 2 месяца назад +1

    What bullshit.....

  • @anthonyferris8912
    @anthonyferris8912 Месяц назад

    This is painful viewing.

  • @4eyefishball53
    @4eyefishball53 2 месяца назад

    This guy doesn't provide any insight of the world's economy. Just rumor.

  • @babbarr77
    @babbarr77 Месяц назад

    Hey, you wanna worry? That should take up some of your meaningless lifetime.

  • @borsennews9261
    @borsennews9261 2 месяца назад

    Boring ... no real Information... nothing that we dont know

  • @charityboss953
    @charityboss953 2 месяца назад +1

    Rodgers is a dinasour and has no wisdom to share. What adore he has become.

  • @maxpervaiz568
    @maxpervaiz568 2 месяца назад +2

    Rogers looks grumpy here. Not sure why he is on this podcast. It appears he is no longer a China bull, and has shorted some stocks in both US and China. Uzbekistan is not for us mortals. I invest in China only if there are ADRs available. There is no such thing for us in Uzbekistan.

    • @akcj875
      @akcj875 2 месяца назад

      He knew that and sold his stocks...he was bullish a few months back only to sell his stocks

  • @gmanhan8305
    @gmanhan8305 2 месяца назад +3

    He was named a Chinese expert, obviously he doesn't know much.

  • @CO8848_2
    @CO8848_2 2 месяца назад +2

    This guy told you to ditch thr US equity market and go all in on China about 20-30 years ago. Over that span, his recommendation under performed at about 1 to 10 ratio. So his "success" is really quite a stretch of the truth.

    • @sulavaca
      @sulavaca Месяц назад

      Gold has done fantastically.

    • @CO8848_2
      @CO8848_2 Месяц назад +1

      @@sulavaca look at the 20 year history, not just last year

  • @Jiidwag
    @Jiidwag 2 месяца назад +1

    Japan = 80s 90d relic.