Kel-Tec Shotgun (KSG)
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Here's a quick video of some KSG test firing footage to hold you over for the upcoming KSG review video which will cover everything you need to know!
The KSG is a dual fed bull-pup pump action shotgun. It has two tubular magazines that hold 7 rounds each that you must manually switch between with a selector switch. Casings eject downwards.
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Kel-Tec this is amazing! let me tell you what I've seen in the last 10 years new models of old shotguns you paved the way in exciting innovation over the years from concealable firearms to universal bullpups. I have to say once again I am not disappointed I can only imagine the applications a gun like this could have in a military/police situation such as switching from a 00 buck to a rubber slug. Thanks again Kel-Tec and may your creativity never stop.
The magnum round sounded awesome!
I've got to get one. 14 rounds with the capability of instantly changing ammo type in a package that looks to be smaller than a 12" barreled 870. You guys really hit this one out of the park. Keep it up. This is exactly the sort of thing we want to see more of.
I also wanna saw huge props to keltec, you guys are the only ones making new interesting awesome stuff, which is kick ass.
Amazing, love the innovation. This is why I love Kel-tec and their products. Always innovating and bringing new designs to market.
A FANTASTIC design idea! Congratulations on some amazing creativity.
One wish: Design an optional automatic magazine switch-over when the first mag empties. I wouldn't think it would be extremely difficult to come up with that.
I really like it how when the magazine empties, it shows that you have perfect aim and control of the gun.
Love the fireball when shooting the magnum shell! =)
Fantastic concept! In addition your bullpup’s home defense length of 26.1 inches, your dual magazine tubes not only get around the 10 round California limit, but also allow two different types of ammo to be loaded and ready for immediate deployment (buckshot on the right, slugs on the left, no waiting!).
Congratulations - just keep reliability and quality control goals at the top of your company's list, and you'll all do fine.
I have just found my Christmas present to myself!
I will be thrilled to add this to my kel tec collection.
I have the su16a and the p11
Cmon shottie.
Just got 1. I was in the gun store looking at a $300 shotgun and they had 1 get delivered while I was there. I bought it right away. Can't wait to take it to the range
I will be keeping a close eye on the ksg. I really hope this will live up to my expectations and you guys go into full production this year. So far this is my next gun. I hope reports don't disappoint .
Finally, someone comes up with a FRESH shotgun concept, thank you keltec
info from keltec's website
KSG weighs 6.9lbs and is as compact as legally possible with a 26.1" overall length and an 18.5" cylinder bore barrel. The internal dual tube magazines hold an impressive 14 rounds of 12 gage 2-3/4" rounds (7 per tube). The pump action feeds from either the left or right tube. The feed side is manually selected by a lever located behind the trigger guard.
100 % correct. whenever I finally see a Keltec item that I want in a store, I buy it immediately, because I don't know when or if I will ever see one available again
@KelTecWeapons
Thanks for the reply.
You guys are coming out with guns faster than I can buy them, and from what I hear, each one is better than the last.
You guys make awesome guns and you make them in the USA! I own 3 Kel Tecs currently and I plan to buy more. Keep up the good work and I'll keep buying em.
You guys better make lots of these and the PMR- 30 cause I am getting both. Love Kel tec!
I've got the RFB, first one n town. Bought it on the spot as the dealer took it out of the carton to look at it for the first time. Now I WILL Get this shotgun. Legal length, yet so much shorter, and FOURTEEN ROUNDS.
Yup I can already see myself with one of these adding a Magpul AFG and Eotech. This thing will be a beast as a CQB weapon.
If you remove some of the material from the pump handle that shrouds the barrel you will have a open area at the front of the barrel where you can add some recoil reducing porting, seems to me this thing kicks like a mule, looks very light and quick to get on target but if you cant get a quick and accurate follow up shot it might just sit on the shelf and look pretty. Recoil reducing semiauto is a option too. Just a thought, love your handguns keep up the good work over there at Kel-Tec!
The "Advanced " part comes in the fact that it's a bullpup so it's going to be even better for close-quarter situations. Then add to the fact that it has TWO tube magazines in it making it have a magazine capacity of 14 rounds (15 when you have one in the chamber already). Go find a single magazine that holds 14 rounds and you'll screw your close-quarters capabilities to the point of having to stay out in an open field with it and causing it to have to swing too slowly.
But then again, I'm not surprised from Keltec.
Keltec: Solutions to a problem no one ever had.
@MatthiasVex The gun is tube fed. It's just got two of them. Four shells per tube, manual switching back and forth.
@DShere
It can shoot shotgun slug rounds
In fact, you can load one tube with slugs, and the other with buckshot (each tube holds 7), and if you want to switch, all you have to do is flick the switch and pump in the new round
@moshpitmachine It's actually considered two seven-round magazines, because you have to manually switch between them. Under the law, it's the same as taping two magazines together; which is to say, totally legal.
You are correct that "evil features" rules apply to semi-automatic weapons with *detachable* magazines. Pump guns and semi-autos with tube (fixed) magazines can have pistol grips, vertical grips, flash hiders, etc. with no problem.
that magnum shell made me jump, can't wait for this baby to hit the market!
@czpaintball a mossberg is not 26" in overall length, and can't hold 15 rounds!. It ejects downwards. Pumping is more reliable and goes back to the roots of the shotgun.
Can't wait to get my hands on this shotgun.
Wooh, can't wait to see this one in Canada!
@AdmiralGST
Rather than a plate that raises the shell to be chambered, a downward ejecting SG has 2 small arms that sit flush with the inside walls of the receiver, giving the spent shell a clear path downward. The arms then swing in toward the center and act as a standard lifer for the fresh shell being chambered.
I like the 2 mag idea. One mag for Non-lethal/birdshot. The other for 00 buckshot in case things aren't working up to that point.
I've always been interested in the neostead 2000, so naturally this gun caught my attention. The only thing I'm not liking is the distance from the trigger to the switch to change the magazine feed side. I know that most consumers run into this situation, but it seems having to remove your hand from the trigger or from the foregrip to change sides could endanger the user. Maybe move it to somewhere more thumb friendly, kind of like the safety. I look forward to shooting, and maybe buying one.
Good luck with that. Most Kel-tec products are hard to get. They really need to ramp up production to meet demand.
@1antennaman It isn't meant to be a combat shotgun. In fact, Kel Tec made sure to make it legal for civilian use, but it is also used for riot control. I mean, it's already 800 dollars, I don't think more metal would have helped that much since it isn't going to be used in a battle field, it's going to be used in a house. By the way, there are public specs out there if you Google them, they seem pretty normal for a home defense shotgun.
I love Kel Tec.
You guys are awesome.
This is an awesome design. Please make sure you work out all design flaws and don't skimp on craftsmanship / quality material this design is awesome but serious shooters will only buy it if it's a well built quality weapon. In my opinion a gun like this if well built or (with a solid warranty) priced under $1000 would be a must have. I have confidence the finished product will be great. Looking forward to buying one.
I just have one word..... DAMN!! I must have one.... Eventually I was thinkin about getting an RFB, but I think the KSG shall be first!
keltec has a great product line from what i have seen
I love Kel-Tecs designs! I just wish their products had a better reputation!
It's a very interesting design for sure, and it does have its uses. The two magazine tubes are my favorite feature, imagine being able to select what type of ammunition you need for a situation. Buckshot for unarmored targets in one tube, slugs in the other. It's a damn shame they're sold out everywhere, Kel-Tec needs to bring the supply up to the demand or they'll lose revenue. I don't think it will replace my Mossberg 500(I love it too much) but it will be an interesting range toy.
@Clavsicus No the aren't. Magazines are a self contained unit holding a spring, follower, and ammunition. Clips are a simple piece of metal that hold the bullets, i.e. Garand clips, stripper clips.... etc.
Looks pretty awesome, and the AA-12 is one of the most well manufactured pieces of military hardware ever made, it's got so little recoil you can fire it one handed, you can submerge it in water and it still fires fine and they make a 32 round drum mag for it, what's not to like?
Like any Kel-Tec product, they are very hard to find. You will have to such search everywhere you can think of and hope you find one.
This is honestly my Favorite Shotgun if I had to choose
I’ll take a KSG any day 🤟✊👌🤘🔥👍💪💯
Innovative marvels like these are what make me damn proud to be an American citizen.
Even if I'm of Korean descent!
Me wants!
It looks as if it cycles a bit rough, hopefully it will smooth out the action.
Keltec, start shipping them now! As soon as I see one it will be at my bed side.
if this was semi-auto then I would be making plans to get in line for this and selling my mossberg 930 SPX. definitely a revolutionary design though (kind of like a shotgun with a built in mini x-rail), always have to hand it to keltec for their unique designs
Can't wait till these are just as readily available as their su-16. :D
Looks pretty cool so far, seeing it in 20ga would be a plus if it does well, reminds me ALOT of the Neostead 2000 (South African Shotgun with an extremely simmilar design)
The noise alone would give a crook a coronary. The Magnum shell is hellacious.
Looks like the forward vertical grip is the way to go, rather than working the pump yourself. But like others have said, if this was available as a semi-auto, you'd have to beat the customers away with a stick.
You guys NEED to make a semi-auto version of this.
Pre-paid/ordered mine yesteday!
KT now has a 12ga pump gun and a .308 battle rifle. All they need is a full size .45 pistol and I could have a complete Kel-Tec loadout for the 3 gun Heavy Metal class.
@judson12891 Its out, kel tec started production in December. I doubt we'll see one on a store shelf for at least 6 months because there are so many back orders. But I've been wrong before.
Being from South Africa originally I've always prayed that Neostead would get their stuff in here (I believe BATF does not allow import), this Neolike shotgun would be awesome for home defense, light, compact, 14 shells of 12 gauge goodness....*drool*
I really do like the bullpup concept regardless of caliber but having it in 12 gauge is a excellent idea. I only have one suggestion tho. How about some kind of a buffer to help absorb some of that recoil?Isn't that one of the biggest gripes with 12gauge shotguns??? I couldn't agree more with keeping the cost down on this thing and Keltec usually does good with that. But if you could keep it under $700 AND have a functional buffer that would truly set this shotgun apart from all the rest.Thanks
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literally every noob in PF using the ksg for the first time in metro
that thing is NASTY! good job, guys.
The ksg looks like it needs a AR style bead/foresight sleave for the front of the barrel, just to make it viable out-of-the-box . It''s not like you can just use a "hidden" bead in the middle of the rail, as its too low - when you have a solid cheek weld. Flip-ups/ lasers, etc. could still be aftermarket upgrades. Just my 2 cents.
The MSRP does seem a bit high, but that's not going to stop me from saving a bit extra to pick one of these up when they hit the shelves.
GD, that Magnum Shell looks devastating!!!
From the specs the gun sounds awesome, too bad I'll never be able to afford one. I own several KT guns, thanks for making reliable and affordable weapons.
@KelTecWeapons Precious little room inside the butt-stock of ANY bull-pup type weapon so,yeah,you certainly have a point.The only real way you could go is with the butt-stock pad being extended to absorb more of the recoil like you stated.Maybe i'll try cutting a small section of my wifes fancy memory foam mattress out and gluing it to my future new toy ;) I know you've heard this already but GREAT job on a WONDERFUL design.One that looks to be really difficult to critic.Thanks for the response
@Tezcatlepocatl
Neostead and the KSG share the same concept but are executed completely differently
Not to mention the KSG is 2 pounds lighter, carries 2 more rounds, and pumps in a normal ergonomic fashion
@Tango123456 the point is that other "conventional" shotguns eject sideways away from you while this one ejects shells directly towards your feet.
Im sure you guys at keltec are aware of this but the majority of us on gun guys would purchase this soon as it is available in semi-auto
You guys are doing a hell of a good job.............I need to invest in some of your stock...Lol! That makes four (the number of your firearms that is on my wish list). SU-16e, PMR-30, KSG, and the RMR -30.
Yummie !
Looking great ...
@ZOrwal Or UTS-15, which is going to be the lead competitor for the KSG.. and a gun I'm coming to admire more as they're arriving up here soon.......
@grittygreenhorn @Gloomshadow1 is right (though it actually carries 14 rounds in the tubes). Also, plastic shotgun shells can have reliability problems feeding from a box magazine.
Looks very futuristic, like something out of a videogame, I wonder how similar it is to the Neostead 2000
Kel-Tec:
This is friggen awesome......
Can you do us a favor and test with the new Aguila Minishells (and other similar sub 23/4" shells). I just can't get my head around the possibility of 26-8 rounds in a shotgun. I will buy at least two if you make this.
If you can do an autoloader with the same capacity OR using the Saiga-12 magazine, I don't think I will be able to buy any because I will be sitting in my room convinced that I had died and gone to heaven.
Good work and cheers.
Badass redefined.. Though it doesn't look like having the smoothest action ever.
@abonynge Neostead is entirely different with the exception of the double tube magazines. The action is nothing like the ksg. The entire barrel moves on the Neostead when pumped, and you pump in reverse, (forward back)
holy shit!! that thing is sweet.
good job kel tec, finish her so it can hit the market and I can purchase one.
Boy I would love to get my hands on one of these shotguns. I like the look and hopeful functionality of this shotgun. I love the bottom eject, love the bullpup design, LOVE the dual mag tube configuration. Question is, will I love the pump action and more importantly.. Will I love the price? Will it function great with all that plastic? I don't think they will be utilizing high grade polymers? That action just doesn't seem/sound right. hopefully all turns out well and I end up owning one :)
Wow, that magnum shell sounded pretty heavy.
0:00- 0:37 "Yeah, a pretty cool bull-pup shotgun. Nothing new outta Halo... But is it any better than the Neostead?"
0:37 BOOOM "HOLY SHIT!! I WANT ONE!"
Keltec is awesome, i have a sub2k to go with my glock. This shotgun looks badass.
I would love some range time with this! It looks amazing.
ugh, I would love to try one out at the range. That price tag is just too steep tho. you can get a mossberg 590A1 for about a third of that.
Hope there will be semi auto ksg
"EY , EY YO TRAYVON, YO WHERE'D YOU PUT THEM BASKETBALLS AT"
"NIGGA I ALREADY PUT THAT SHIT BACK"
@AdmiralGST Lol!!! I did'nt mean the first shotguns, when the majority of people think of a self defense shotgun (which this is) they think pump. Alot of people still think that a revolver is the best way to go for a self defense pistol.
This would be so good for a home/personal defense shotgun even better if it was made in .410 with a 3-inch chamber.
I do wish they'd put the magazine selector on the outside somewhere, so I wouldn't have to take my hands out of firing position to keep firing. Or better yet make it switch automatically when one magazine is expended.
@HLGSTEEL its a 12 guage, with only one barrel.
Kel Tec seams to be pretty good in PDWs.
@JackTheRipher1989
The is a bullpup where as the AA-12 is a "conventional" design. AA-12 feeds from box mags\drum, KSG feeds from twin tube mags. The list goes on... As far as rivaling the AA-12 & similar platforms (USAS, Saiga) it's all a matter of opinion IMHO. Pump vs. select fire, weight, dimensions, ammo management, manual of arms, class III vs. cali legal, once again the list goes on & on.
On a slightly off topic note however... Imagine the KSG with FRAG-12 rounds. *looks at Kel-Tec*
@marcman5109 aa-12's aren't hard to control, they are designed to have as little recoil as possible
That fore-end looks to be a handfull and a half for people with average sized hands. Also with the smooth sides on that fore-end is there a chance that someones hand could slip as they racked forward and end up in front of the muzzle?? The addition of the fore-grip seemed to help. I really like the gun and will wait to see what the "street price" settles in at and any final modifications before I decide to jump.
Not being critical but the recoil seems rather stout. Don't think its a weight issue. Its listed at 6.9lbs, Remington 870 is listed at 7.5lbs so not much weight difference between the two. Factor in the extra amo and weights almost the same. Wonder if the lack of stock adds to the perceived increased recoil. Either way can't wait to fire one.
How about changing the design to allow a flashlight to be installed in place of one magazine cap and a laser on the other. Even if you had to lengthen the barrel and tubes a little it would be worth it. It would really look bad ass with an internal laser/light. Use the three dot (triangle) laser like the predator movie :)
@diosdefwego that's only on civilian models, and it's built in on purpose as a fail safe. It's a misconception that the gun is broken or built poorly because of this.
Man I have been doing nothing but looking for videos and articles about this gun for like 2 hrs after watching Nutnfancy showing it off at SHOT. Dude I want one though the slide looks a bit loose pretty sure they will fix that before its released
I just wish you guys put out more guns and talk to your dealers.I called Gander MTN. in Duluth and they said that they had four su16c s in stock so I drove 2.5 hours to get there and guess what.They said that they made a mistake and they didn't have any! I know that this is not your fault but if I were running a business I would want to know.
OUTRAGEOUS!!!! I WANT ONE!!!!