War on the Sea - U.S. Campaign - 02 - Quick-Draw IJN Subs
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Let's play the newly released War on the Sea, a WW2 naval combat strategy game. This latest release from Killerfish unleashes the Pacific theater of operations, with carrier battles and surface action, including all that on a campaign fight for Guadalcanal.
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Command ships, submarines and aircraft in the South Pacific during WWII.
1942: The world is at war
The Japanese Empire expands throughout the Pacific where Allied forces attempt to halt its spread. A desperate struggle for control of the Solomon Islands is now underway.
How will you protect your transports as they deliver troops and supplies in the South Pacific? Will you deploy precious aircraft carriers to provide air cover? Do you screen the area with submarines? Or attempt to lure the enemy navy into a decisive surface engagement?
Major Features:
Real time naval combat
Theatrical external-view game play
Play as Allied Forces or Imperial Japan
Over 50 classes of playable ships
Dynamic campaign
Tactical control of aircraft (not a flight simulator)
Fight fires, counter flood compartments and repair ships
Sink ships using realistic buoyancy physics
Historical missions based on actual naval engagements
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There is a bug with your fleets losing their course orders when you log out and reload a game. You'll notice that NONE of your submarines remembered where they were supposed to go. All of them pretty much sat in the same location for the entire video.
Thanks for the heads up! I"ll monitor this now.
none of is ships obeys any orders
@@magpie6126 I tried the game and I was disappointed
ship control is too complicated, confusing
creating routes is just as bad
in general, the game is a "good idea, but a very bad UI"
I returned it and asked for a refund, unfortunately
I was a sonar operator on a surface ship in the 70's. This is a pretty bizarre interpretation and visualization of what it's like to search for subs and attack them. Fun, but, you know... If we had been equipped with that undersea camera drone that could move at light speed, boy howdy! By the 70's, of course, it was a different game from WWII: subs were faster and could dive deeper, and their high-speed homing torpedoes could have hit us almost before we knew they were in the water. As for detection, surface-ship sonar was almost obsolete; attack subs, or sonar buoys equipped with with radio transmitters dropped from aircraft, were way more reliable. In war games, I never detected a submarine, even when I knew one was nearby. Sneaky buggers.
Very fun to hear about this. Yeah, ASW in this game is nothing like reality, but sometimes can reproduce realistic outcomes.
The sub engagements are fun, maybe not if there too many in one episode though.
Agreed. I'll hide some of the ASW going forward.
@@TortugaPower ASW wouldn't be bad if there was some variation to it. So far all that it seems to amount to is > Zoom out > See where the Torps are coming from > Avoid Torps > Drive your ship over the top of the sub > drop depth charges until the sub either sinks or surfaces.... From the Japanese perspective it seems to be ... blow your entire load on in one attack , and when that fails steam in a straight line until you get depth charged to death... maybe every once in a while you'll get to surface and fire your deck gun a couple of times before dying...
@@2020Max1 true, if sonar was more reliable and battle instances more varied ASW would be exciting. Editing out some of the searching and maneuvering into position for charges could make them more enjoyable to watch.
@@davidgarbutt583 I don't really mind the search and maneuvering aspect. My biggest issue with it is that the AI (for both the enemy and your ships) is about as smart as a pile of bricks. The enemy sub makes virtually NO attempt to evade even as you are rolling over the top of them dropping depth charges on them. The state of sonar is broken at best. With 2 or more DD's searching and they are still unable to detect a sub that's tooling along at 7kts in a straight line. Active sonar should give you the enemies near exact bearing and range when you are within the sonar's detection range. But as of yet I have not seen any indicator that active sonar even works.
@@davidgarbutt583 I was giving a think about what could be done to improve the ASW mechanics and one thing that I came up with would be a way to "simulate" the passive sonar. Like maybe when you were in direct control of one of your ships you could get audio queues based on what direction you're facing. For instance, if your ship was sailing due North and the submarine was somewhere on your port side, as you swung the camera over to port you'd gradually be able to hear the enemy sub the closer you got to the subs actual bearing. This would be useful by allowing you to use multiple DD's to triangulate a sub's position much the same way it was done in a real sub hunt. Another thing that is sorely needed is the inclusion of map tools for you to use for plotting a sub's track like the tools that you have in the Silent Hunter and U-Boat games.
Depth charges makes sounds.
Sonar works by measuring sounds.
Big explosion underwater kind of interferes with sonar...
If you've played Subs Sims, you can only appreciate the superhuman skills of those IJN subs gunners, hitting your DDs while they are mid-surfacing.
That or the game is cheating...
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I guess they keep some crew with breathers attached to the gun even when they dive.
Definitely want to see each and every battle action that takes place in this game. Thanks for the video, I am enjoying watching this game.
Good feedback, and I'm happy to see the excitement for this game.
Having one destroyer drive around continuously pinging and the other do attack runs should be the best option, i think you should stay above 10 knots, it's faster than most early subs, but still slow enough to aim depth charges
@TortugaPower You really ought to follow what MrAlhaArc suggests.
I agree. One DD using active sonar will pinpoint the exact location of any submerged sub. Most subs would make runs on submerged contacts between 12-18kts. Depth charges dont have to hit the sub to destroy them, they work by using overpressure to collapse bulkheads and hulls.
i'm really looking for more of this game on your channel.
It should be a couple of days for the next one! (Tuesday)
Entry 2
Lt. Cmdr. Adrian Dunios, USS Enterprise (CV-6). One of the scout groups from an airbase off the Solomon Sea reported a large convoy of IJN Ships. Six Merchant ships, two Takao class cruisers and two destroyers. We’ve been launching scouts all day to try and reestablish contact with no luck. It’s possible they were destined for one of their bases, and have arrived in port. TF5 has been screening ahead of us, and has thus far destroyed 3 submarines.Apparently they’ve been hit several times by the deck gun when their target surfaces, and are now dropping an increased number of charges to keep this from happening. I can’t imagine being in one of those metal death boxes when it goes down. Just having no chance to survive, and guaranteed a slow death.
Oh no! I forgot to actually post the rest of the log! It's up now, I had it all backed up to a separate document just in case I was an idiot.
im really excited for this, atlantic fleet made it feel that the only ships anyone had were submarines
Well in the Battle of the Atlantic that would make sense, The Germans had way more subs than surface ships.
I still have nightmares about the campaign for the Brits in Atlantic Fleet. It was 99% ASW, with janky turn-based torpedoes.
I personally like the sub battles. Show it all. Really enjoy this. You have a great grasp of the game already.
Thank you! And noted on the feedback.
yes i like all the battles. dang id even watch you destroy the singular planes
Okay, feedback noted
I don't know if it was mentioned in a later video, but the USN doctrine for carrier based scouting used SBD dauntless dive bombers with 250 pound bombs for scouting.
The biggest thing limiting your passive sonar is ship speed. WW2 active sonar was really only for final attack location. Surface passive sonar was mostly only good for hearing torpedoes unless you were very slow and nearly on top of the sub. Everything ASW happened at much shorter ranges that we do it today.
Thanks Harry. Not if this episode or next, but I reduce my speed more (in response to similar comments). Cheers!
If you decide to show the submarine actions, I'd watch them.
Okay, noted. Thanks
Since a DD can carry supplies, I might argue that any DDs sent out on patrol, should stop and unload supplies at that post you are going to occupy.
But be honest,AA sound effect, bomb hit on water i think is same as Atlantic fleet on Android even that two game same Dev but at least they can improve that.
Some veteran people whom made cold waters leaved from the studio thats why it is bad.
The sound effects were used since Pacific Fleet, with a few exceptions here and there, and I don't mind.
it is, its still fun
You lose contact with a sub A) when you are directly over/ slightly ahead (in your baffles), and B) when depth charges explode and create extraneous noise in the water.
Did the Devs already say something about more Campaigns, Nations or anything like that ? Because this Game looks really good :)
I'm really loving this, every second is interesting. I hope it's a long exciting campaign :)
Too bad about the yt compression though, I'm mostly watching on my phone and I can't see the depth charges dropping for instance.
Glad you enjoy it!
Thanks for doing this. This game release snuck up on me as I am in 1943 in a War in the Pacific game so it has my attention haha.
Wow, 1943 in WitP?! That's insane!
@@TortugaPower Just about to hit 1944. I think it's officially become my pandemic game at the moment lol.
It's fun flying around with my P-47s!
I actually thought this game would be an absolute pain to watch. But between your expertise and your cuts, it's actually quite nice.
Given how sub battles seem to be the majority of the game, it wouldn't be fair to ask you to cut them. And the anticipation of "will they shell you again" will keep my on my toes.
My current plan is to cut some of the tedium out during the ASW. The initial torpedo dodging is always fun to see (at least it's always exciting for me)
To get location of sub go 6 knots passive only. When located and fairly close switch to active. IRL no sonar-man would have hearing if he had passives on and active pinging began.
If they keep sending them, keep sinking them, and I'll keep watching
That sure works for me
Hi, you're having a lot of depth charge misses because your targeting solution is ruined after you pass over the submarine, set more than one batch to be dropped (5x 10s for example) when your solution is at 100% and you should have more luck as they'll use the solution roll from when you clicked the button. Good hunting!
Yes, that's a good idea, fire off right before she goes in my baffles.
I agree that the sub gets it's tiny little deck gun into action ridiculously fast, and the destroyers take forever to get on target, despite knowing exactly where the sub is going to come up at....
IJN invented automated deck guns for their subs. Didn't you know that :)
A conspiracy that this was left out of the history books!
Two episodes in two days. It's a good weekend I guess.
Think making a near by airfield in this campaign is a high priority, and taking Guadalcanal should be the highest.
Agreed, having a lot of planes will be good to keep enemy fleets spotted and to engage them when possible without risking one own's fleet (just like in real life)
@@themodernwarfarehistorian825 Also, taking Guadalcanal denies the Japanese an airfield.
I'm going to take the island south of Guadalcanal (the one my transports didn't move towards), and that will be my hopping location to Guadalcanal!
@@TortugaPower At that point so many people are going for Rennell Island as a forward base that it is absolutely a laughable in itself ^^
The whole place is surrounded by steep cliffs that make it the worst place to attempt a landfall and bring a bulldozer. Photos of the airstrip are sad, this was made using machetes. In WitP it is a pain to develop, and even there I have the feeling they were nice to it...
@@DrydockDreamsGames As far as critiques about realism, I have "Rennell Island as a bad" very low on the list =)
But maybe it's something mod-makers can look at this, or I've been talking about self-imposing realism restrictions after I know the game better.
Maybe it's a good idea to see the IJN's subs gun arc, so you can avoid their fire before they raise
Thankfully, this bug (I'm going to call it a bug at least) doesn't have a bad effect, as we can repair the damage their shells do .
@@TortugaPower Big shells though, the I-class boats carried 14cm deck guns with a very decent HE round. If you don't take them seriously they are more than capable of taking a DD down with them, maybe even a Treaty cruiser if given the chance.
Maybe someone already answered you, but the high speed of your destroyers are a true enemy to your passive sonar. I'm not an expert, but would guess that the searching destroyer should prob be at a max speed of 10 kts? Nice videos by you, by the way :)
I really hate yelling at the monitor trying to watch someone play this game
I feel like between Rule the Waves, this, victory at sea and ultimate admiral dreadnaughts there's a perfect game somewhere but they all lack spectacularly in some way, whether it's graphics, no campaign, or a shitload of bugs, there's always something
Hi TortugaPower, I watched the live stream live (00:00 hrs UK). The b29 attack was an interesting tactic (hilarious).
Episode 2 did not disappoint. The scouts really helped with finding a juicy future target.
As regards the sub hunting, you could make it more difficult by not looking underwater. Then maybe I'll call you Capitan. Good hunting Terry.
Thanks for the feedback, Terry! I'll probably skip some of the ASW, and yeah I could result to not looking under water (I can demonstrate this once)
@@TortugaPower wym it’s a perfectly legit strategy, have a dude holding on to a rope from the ship and looking underwater
Once the sub blows it's tanks any additional charges are really a waste. It's coming up and you being up there with hardly any speed on at point blank range is why you're getting hit so easily. Slowing to a stop is bordering on reckless and might get you a court martial for wanton endangerment of your ship and crew. You DON'T KNOW if that's the ONLY SUB AROUND!
Yes, we want to sea the battles ^^...
You need to adjust your depth charge timer sometimes. You're frequently having them above the sub only because you've set them for a 5 second delay. Try 7ish.
Hi Dylan, I think you don't know how the timer works. That is to set delay between subsequent batches, not the depth/delay before explosion.
@@TortugaPower ah. Okay. I misunderstood what Wolfpack was using it for in his video. I haven't played yet myself. I don't think I will either. Lack of time and all lol.
Sure. Sadly way to set charge depth manually.
great video, that is definitely a big YES for more videos, from me ^^
Only thing I miss is the random smashing of buttons trying to avoid torps because submarines are slow turning
We may still get this in the DDs! (I did some super-smashing the other day in a private playthrough dodging torpedoes)
@@TortugaPower is the typhoon class a mod for CW or an official sub? That would be a fun play through
Just wrecking people
It’s good that you teach while playing buddy
"Quick-draw sub" is hilarious; it's also a partial - albeit involuntary - equalizer against easy ASW. Guaranteed damage for both parties.
Also, the free cam makes air recon way too easy aswell, if you know Japanese ships enough you don't even need to look at the recon drawings.
I really hope KF finds a way to make the game a bit more realistic, and not leave the matter to the player's self-control to not use the free camera.
I think it should be tied to a difficulty option. As for me in particular, I'll be happy to enforce my own realism rules once I get more comfortable with the game.
@@TortugaPower I totally agree.
Have you tried manually firing some HE at the subs when they're at periscope depth?
Great videos. Like your commentary. I thought japanese battles was more about carriers and less about subs (where subs were prime in Pacific)
I think in this area, the Japanese carriers played a more secondary role than in other Pacific areas.
Nice videos! But I have a question and a request. How come you don't use bigger patterns when dropping depth charges on subs? Also, in response to the question you posed in the end, I would actually prefer to see the sub battles edited out unless something interesting happens. Thanks for the videos, and please keep up this series, I like it!
I was dropping one at a time to micromanage. I may try patterns next time. Thanks for the feedback =)
1. You do realize the depth charges fouling up the SONAR is why you loose contact after an attack.
2. You are using fighters as scouts. I know the US used SBDs (dive bombers) as scouts. The Japanese used cruiser float planes for that purpose.
My use of fighters as scouts is intentional. Typically the US had four flight types in their carriers (at least at first), about 25% of fighter, dive bomber, torpedo bomber, and scout (which was also dive bomber). They adjusted this to be more fighter-heavy later in the war, but basically point is they had a designated scout group, whereas we do not. Of my 12x of each, I deem that the Wildcats least need to be ready to go for an attack, so I use a few of them as scouts.
You really don't pay attention much... That convoy you were looking for was by Guadalcanal... Not out in the open ocean. When you found that convoy it was your wildcats from enterprise that found it.
When you get an encounter, check the name of the units involved. And click go to, it will put you on the units involved.
Happy to have watched this video, I was about to buy this game. The subs shooting right away when surfacing and do some serious damage is a bit silly. I will keep an eye out see how this game develops.
You have the best eyes! most of the videos I ahve watched they find the sub when a DD dies
I really don't like losing ships so trying my best, although some torpedo spreads are impossible to avoid.
I got a kick out of some of your commentary.
"Ok, this is good, this is really good."
"I know a thing or two about flak."
Also, all your frustration with units not following orders reminds me of the scene with the Polish squadron in the movie "The Battle of Britain." "Repeat please."
Haha, great scene. Salty British officer: "And another thing, the squad has been promoted to combat duty." (or whatever)
ASW is part of the war tho. i dont mind seeing this engagements, depends on you and how much ASW filled episodes you want to have.
I'll try to keep a better balance, so at least not 100% ASW
If u fly your planes straight to a spot will they just circle till bingo fuel or return right away
Sorry another question can u pick targets like depth charge a sub and have the AI do it?
They hover in spot and then RTB when they run low on fuel. No friendly AI in this game, sadly.
@@invictus4107 You can target a sub in battle and hit the "attack order" and the destroyer will move to engage (and drop depth-charges) if that is what you are asking.
@@MrProfilen Yes Thanks. I also think that DDs went faster over the subs as the charges can wreck the DD as well
You lost the submarine while dropping charges because it was in your baffles.
Ya no one has said or commments iv seen has said active sonar impairs your passive sonar, but that would make sense. I imagine someone in future videos either told you about it or tryed testing it in future videos, given it says ACTIVE sonar on the button maybe if you leave it off and SLOW DOWN so the props arnt kicking out bubbles you should be able to hear a sub out to 14 knotical miles.
Quality content.
Slow down your DD's to 10 knots and turn on active sonar to locate subs.
I've enjoyed the first three. The fourth shows up as a private video.
It was processing by YT, but it's available now.
Comments on ASW only
If I was the individual posting these videos I’d try to make them both enjoyable and exciting or at least interesting and while the underwater camera does make it somewhat easier it does also make the viewing a lot more easy to follow. ( imagine having an underground camera on the two yard line when the balls on the three yard line and you seat is at the other end of the stadium!) You would expect that camera angle on a WWll movie so why not here !
As for the the fastest deck guns in submarine history I’d suggest you get the search ship to apply the Coup de grace in case the sub surfaces below your main guns minimum elevation.
Finally while I note the glitch you mentioned above can I enquire why you not deploying your subs as an advance screen to protect your Carrier ? ( I note you are for your slow supply convey ) Wildcats as previously mentioned are not scouts and can do next to nothing if the find the enemy unless it’s a fishing boat ! A sub can be your eyes and ears and they can pack a punch . I’ve watched all your vids to date and if I was your CO I’d ask you why aren’t you utilising your subs better ? ( glitch aside )
Otherwise it’s compelling viewing so I hope you continue with many more .
Rip RUclips compression
I just had a “unknown sinking” and it was a sub that beached itself lol
Love it.
Hit the front and back of the sub both and it'll be unable to surface.
Looking nice.
SBDs for scouting. Much better choice.
Like the videos man keep up the good work
Appreciate it!
Ya Ya Subs! Enjoying! Thanks!
You lost the sun contact because she was behind you so you couldn’t hear her apart from your engines and the second destroyer was directly in-line with the sub and thenfirst destroyer therefore she couldn’t hear the sub over the forward destroyers engines...It seems like they put thought into the mechanics of sound propagation....I think having a destroyer set at 90 degrees from the target listening while another destroyer does her attack run could be more successful...But I was just a lowly Sgt in the Army and no nothing of naval tactics 😂😂
Ep2 is a poor example of ASW -- effective but not ideal. I think better examples will come.
You lose targeting when you pass over the target..... the sound of the sub is lost in the noise of your propellers ... get one destroyer out to the side several hundred yards with active sonar to get a fix on the target.
In real life any ship would lose contact with a sub passively when depth charges are going off... they are loud and block out the noise spectrum... Just fyi
"Armored" F3F Wildcats
Edit: Why you using Wildcats for scouting? the Dauntless is the scout
Because of the way this game works. I prefer all dive bombers to be available to attack.
ASW is nice... But not all the time xD
Noted!
There is a bug that the game doesn't save the movement orders when you save the campaign. Perhaps you are experiencing that.
That explains it. I'll check on this
Maybe just the highlights from the sub and floatplane interactions. Not the whole drawn out engagements.
I cut out a lot of the floatplane stuff in the future. Not very engaging, IMO. Cheers!
Why would you be using a Wildcat to contemplate attacking an enemy convoy with? They were used for fighter sweeps and close air support of ground targets. Unless specifically armed with 100 lb SAP's, the F4F was not the aerial platform of choice. If they spotted a convoy, they would radio back and Dauntless or Devastator aircraft would be used.
Short answer: this game isn't a perfect model of reality, so wildcats are useful in strafing runs.
Yeah it’s pretty much an arcade game when ships can speed up and slow down that quickly. There is no momentum in the universe.
Im not keen on the UI of this game. It takes up so much screen space. Every other genre but stratagy has found ways to display information in a non intrusive way. Cold waters was similar, but there are some great UI mods to help.
I wouldn't mind more ASW, but stop using the underwater view. You're making it too easy like that.
Also in the future you could probably make better use of a 3 DD ASW squad.
If people thought consistent ASW was boring as-is, imagine how horrible it would be if I did ASW the real way!
Perchance it's boring to them because they can see what's happening? Try off-camera an ASW encounter without looking under water and see if it's more exciting to you.
@@rblinson8136 Yeah, I've done encounters without it. It's basically the same except it requires more micromanagement of the second DD and using the minimap to align instead of the 3D graphics.
Well after you sink 10 subs the frequency of encounters will reduce
why worry about active sonar? the sub know you are there already
But do they know I know they're there?
Do you Play on keyboard and mouse or contruler
you able to man the plane ur yourself, direct it, and fire? 6:42
Nice video, thank you for posting, keep it up 😎
1940's passive sonar tech consisted pretty much of a guy sticking a stethoscope in the water and listening....
Very crude, and not super effective against submarines; that is why they went with active sonar (pinging).
Now the active still had it's share of problems, i.e. it was very directional, and sent sound out in a cone shape directed predominately forward and down.
Therefore it could not see to the rear at all, nor to the sides or bellow very effectively.
The main benefit of active sonar was that you could still maintain the contact while moving at medium to high speeds when making attack runs on submerged submarines.
Here is excellent "shallow dive /primer" source material on WWII sonar and tactics:
www.uboat.net/allies/technical/asdic.htm
Thank you, always enjoyable to learn more about the historicaly background for related gameplay.
there seems to be two many subs in this game.
Both sides used subs as long range scouts to patrol the areas they were planning to operate in.
@@steweygrrr there are two many in this game, they did not run into japanese subs all the time.
Use SBDs for scouting
They are better at that, but I actually find it much better to use Fighters, because 1) your SBD's can immediately attack, and 2) Fighters aren't as valuable as they should be, so they are disposable for scouting
Doesn't the other base in Papua New Guinea (not Port Moresby, the one near the southeastern tip) have any planes?
If so, they could have been useful to either keep track of the enemy fleet and/or attack it
Btw, as always, great video!
ASW is nice yet annoying at the same time (probably because submarines are very overpowered)
Still, personally, I would like to see ASW engagements please
Thanks for the feedback. Milne Bay does have 4x Wildcats, so as long as I'm not being lazy or too hasty, I can launch these in two groups to scout around.
@@TortugaPower Glad of being a little useful! Also, can't wait for more episodes!
can you comment on the delay and other settings for the depth charges
can ww2 torpedoes actually steer?
3 subs sunk
For what it's worth cortchi
this was frustrating lol
More than a year late. If anybody reads this, it wasn't my fault! I completely get the point about 'Atlantic Battle', hell, it was boring as 'eff but the intelligent way you approach a 'problem' (like a submarine) is def worth watching. Yeah, you need to suspend a sense of realism at times, for instance a sub that had to blow ballast just to survive is probably not in a good condition to 'duke it out' with a destroyer, if they even went near the gun the decks would be raked with '50 cal and cannon fire, nobody would be left alive to fire back. But hey ho, maybe they were invincible ninja marines? I've seen those ninjas in the movies, they are hard to kill (movies never lie).
As it is extremely unlikely that anybody will ever read this, I may as well continue to spout shite.
Speaking of movies (well, I was) there was a great 'movement' in the 70's/80's that any American car that even veered sideways would erupt in a massive explosion, that must be great petrol you have in the former colonies? Any chance of sending me some? I have an old car that seems a bit lazy, probably just needs some of that US petrol (sorry, you call it gas but I'm not surprised, it must be so volatile).
True story, some young rapscallions got hold of some aviation fuel and thought it would be a good idea to fire it into a twin motorbike, they got as far as the gate. There was enough original fuel in the carb to get them going but then the new stuff got into contact. It blew rods out of the top of the engine and seriously wrecked their fun for an entire day.
That's ok though, they got a turbo and fitted it to an old 'landy' the next day, black smoke? There was lots of it and then it actually spun the tires on it's journey to a sad demise.
There's a few things I feel guilty about, not marrying Yvonne would be top of the list but there was destruction to perfectly good engines, they didn't deserve that. Sometimes I wonder how I have survived all these years, the total arrogance to just not give a shit must have some form of protection.
That and my Mother's prayers?
Pax vobis.
These read as if generated by an ML/AI program :)
what in the hell do you need passive sonar for if the subs are ALREADY firing at you? you want active sonar, and right tf NOW. you are NOT "sneaky" in a destroyer FFS.
nevermind. I see this game is just crap. *sigh*
What the farragut
wow 3 subs on day 1, ijn will be out of subs after ~15 days
Yeah.....subs doing deck gun action after being severe damage 3 seconds after surface. I’ll pass. So sad. Maybe destroyer game that’s coming soon. Worried that one looks like a movie though.
this would be so much better if the direct control of ships was more like world of warships.
I think I'd be way happier if you just navigated. Doing manual control and crying whoops, why is it doing that, or listening to you mash the keyboard feels like it drags things out and doesn't seem to accomplish much if any benefit. Of course that could just be my perception, I'm not playing this game yet.
Ngl this game looks fun but right now it is bugged to all hell. Nonetheless, you still make the game very interesting to watch. Hopefully they'll really push hard and polish this game cause it would be a damn shame if this game die early.
Agreed! I don't expect the game will be super polished by devs alone but mod options also look good.
Third sub.
its boring to watch and fight from underwater side .. you all want realism and then such a thing :)
Nothing about this is realistic, since we get an exact position, heading, speed, and depth of the enemy subs instantly upon slightest detection.
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@@TortugaPower :)