So, a 50cc and 60cc Husvarna Vs a 70cc and 80cc Stihls. Results are pretty poor for Stihl, either the same time, or barely faster, than the smaller husqvarna saws.
I'm not sure how much cutting through knots effects the time. Both Husqvarna saws went through sections of knots. I have a 460 Rancher that I am very pleased with. I like your videos very much.
I am a professional arborist. The answer is very simple. It depends to the operator. Sthil need less maintenance, works at low revs and it is really hard to control the power of the low rpm, this is but anybody can cut with still. Husqvarna is for pros, needs more maintenance, it works at almost double the revs, this means that you have got the high rpm power which can make more precise cuts, but to work with Husqvarna at the peek performance you need to know how to work with a chainsaw. If you don't know, you will say that Husqvarna is. shit. I am working everyday day removing/pruning big trees and all mai chainsaws are Husqvarna.
But if you don't know how to make a good maintenance, and you don't respect the gas/oil ratio, or for exemple you use red oil to Husqvarna, every chainsaw will last maximum 1 year
Here's the dish...either brand of saw is good and you won't go wrong either way. It's subjective and personal preference. I have a Stihl MS261-C that performs optimally and starts second or third pull every time. Plenty of power too. I am now looking to purchase a larger saw that will handle a 24" bar. I'm looking at the Husqvarna 460, but it's not a professional saw. I prefer a magnesium construction and not plastic, so I'm hoping to find a 61 (older model) or an 034 Stihl. I don't want to get anything bigger. I'm getting too old and tired to slog a great big saw. At any rate, the comparison between models in the video is miniscule. Just get a saw that is well constructed from quality components and not cheap ass plastic. A cheap man pays twice.
I run an MS 260 Pro with a 32 inch bar. I run a semi skip chain to reduce the chain drag when I'm cutting bigger wood, but the main reason for the long bar is so I don't have to bend over.
If you compare the price of each saw, I'm not sure the 500i was the best? How much are you willing to pay for a few tenths of a second over the course of three cuts? Seriously? I'm not saying a 500i isn't a great saw, but this demonstration wouldn't make me go out & buy one.
Why would speed be the primary factor unless you're cutting firewood for a living? I'm not a logger or firewood salesman, so speed down to the fraction of a second isn't that important to me.
those are great chainsaws both, at first I thought that the video was fast-paced forward but is not, is normal speed and they cut this log like butter !! the advantage of the Hugvarnas is the higher rpm than the stills ,,, the higher model the 881 still and the eqavalant Hugvarna have a difference of 2000 rpm in favor of the Hugsvarna which means a lower cutting time for the Hugsvarnas...
@FINNISHLUMBERJACK it's true though look at the torque curve of a stihl in relation to top rpm .... vs a Husqvarna the numbers don't lie my personal experience here in Ontario I use an old 181se on my mill just because it absolutely hauls ..... the rpms are nice also for a smother mill cut .... on the other hand in the bush my sweetheart is my ms361 that has been slightly modified it's an animal felling
Mam pilarke husqwarna 242 z 1991 r mozna by powiedziec z samego poczatku sprowadzania do Polski tych pilarek sporo nia pracowalem i nadal pracuje byla remontowana fakt ale i ro otw robiła i robi izywam do lzejszych prac po dzis dzień
Bonjour Mr, Merci pour vos vidéos. En belgique dans le Brabant Wallon les revendeurs Husqrvarna se sont moqués de mon épouse car elle a eut un AVC et elle est devenue handicapée. C'est intolérable pour notre famille. Je pense donc que chez Husqvarna les gens méchants. c'est pour cela que je ne veux plus entendre parler de Husqvarna. Je pense que husqvarna ne devrait plus exister. Bien cordialement.
One of the major influential factors in the speed/performance of a chainsaw is the chain 'pitch'. The pitch of a chain is determined by the depth that the blades are allowed to cut provided for by the depth gauge. The two husq saws in this test are running .325 pitch chains, whereas the stihls are running 3/8. The 3/8 chain pitch allows for deeper cuts for each cutter. I run a husqvarna 572 xp which is designed for a chain with a 3/8 pitch and it competes well with the heavier stihls.
That SP33G chain is narrow kerf in .325 pitch which provides faster cutting compared to regular kerf. The MS400 is the only one using full chisel in 3/8‘s and the 500i has semi-chisel which typically cuts slower but stays sharper longer in dirty cutting environments. Whether 325 or 3/8 the depth of cut is determined by the height of the depth gauge which is typically .025“ below the top plate here. Some set it lower for soft woods and/or change the top plate angle to 35 degrees instead of 30. So the 3/8 pitch will have a wider kerf than .325 but will typically cut the same depth.
Pitch has nothing to do with cut depth. Pitch is length between links and therefore the driver's to mesh with the sprockets. 3/8ths chain is heavier duty for high powered saws. 325 has a slightly narrower cutter so less drag tho. Depth of cut is determined by raker height.
is this how u warm up ur saws everytime? not very nice to ur saw. poor test aswell, wont see any big difference on the bigger saws unless ur doing a bigger log.
I think this test is only meant to demonstrate these are all pretty much the same practical performance wise if you wanted to buck reasonably sized logs. Obviously they are different and he's not even trying to balance this by using the same bar and chain setup etc. The point to be made here is they are all superb tools. The different chains and details in how he filed them would make a difference. So does bar length, chain tension adjustment, cylinder temperature when starting the cut, and lots of stuff. Even technique given just one recorded attempt doing those three cuts. First and foremost how the saws were maintained and regarding trad carbs how well or even how aggressively they were tuned. Even then it's just about the same for the given use scenario unless one fubars really bad.
I've used stihl for 30 years . Every body I know that has a husky works on them a lot. Actually I bought a Chinese clone saw copy of a stihl and it out cuts the stihl I have. I've cut 25 cords with it and haven't had a problem with it.
Ihan samoissa sarjoissa ei kyllä nämä koneet kilpaile😂. Olisit Jouni ottanut vielä ton 592 Huskun mukaan😂. Mutta toi 560 oli kyllä iloinen yllätys. Mitenköhän 572 olisi pärjännyt😉?
Eniten minä ihmettelen että 500 iivari vaan aika monessa ison puun kaato videossa käytössä😂 no ehkä siksi ku "pienenä" saha merkkinä niin tasotuksen vuoksi😂
Ajassa ne eivät jääneet kauas jääneet toisistaan. Tuosta lakkia päähän: finnishlumberjack.creator-spring.com/listing/chainsawmancap?product=2148 Ja omalle kanavalle jatkamaan seuraavilla sahoilla, testivideoille on kysyntää
That was great! It would be interesting to measure fuel consumption for each unit to determine the best cost vs. benefit. I would bet you would like Stihl 23rs pro chain on the Husqvarna‘s that‘s .325 narrow kerf full chisel.👍
Ni velike razlike,čeprav imam celo življenje Husqvarno sem se navdušil na STIHL žage, ker imam s Husqvarno stalno probleme z mazanjem verige in natezanjem verige.Moja naslednja bo STIHL.
500i is the slowest. You loose time in pumping fuel....This kind of comparisons are senseless. No one buys a chainsaw just because of its cutting speed. And it is not even under objective and equal conditions. Nevertheless I like your clips and enjoy learning from you.
Ho una piccola motosega per uso domestico. Se fossi un professionista comprerei Echo o Shindawa che sono ottime e non Sthil perché la menano troppo con la Sthil.
у каждой из этих бензопил своё назначение - husqvarna 550 не спилит дуб шириной метр, а stihl ms500i спилит и порежет на колодки, да и частота оборотов двигателя у stihl 14000-15000 оборотов в минуту, а у husqvarna - 12000- 13000 оборотов в минуту
Maailman suurimmat puut kaadetaan STIHL moottorisahalla siinä on kaksi männänrengasta ja STIHL ei mene väljäksi vanhanakaan. Nuo muut sahat menee väljäksi ja niissä ei enää tyhjäkäynti toimi ne joutuu romukoppaan.
Dobbiamo considerare anche il prezzo di ogni motosega. €/$??? Lavoro con husqvarna 560xp,e mi trovo più che bene,è una macchina eccezionale! Pagata € 950,00 anche se 6 anni fà. Ma sempre super potente ed affidabile!
Juu elä muuta virka. Se on kyllä sulaa hulluutta kun 12 tollasta 1cm vahvuista lettua sahaa tollasen 5m pitkän tukin päästä😂 kaiken järkevinhän olisi tuommonen puu polttaa uunissakin ilman jotta ollenkaan menee sitä pätkimään klapimittaankaan vaan kokonaisena sitä mukaa työtää syvemmälle ku palaa uunissa loppuu. Sen verta monta katkaisua tulee jo tuohon mittaan jotta lähtee jo monta senttiä pois. Se on kaikki kotiin päin ja säästöä👍
bunlar adil olamaz 1 kütük torbadan çıkacak hin budak olmayacak hp eşit olacak zincir lokma sayısı ve hepsi 3.08 veya 32.5 olacak makineler bir mekanik ka bağlanacak öyle bakılacak birde hangisi olursa olsun mutlaka servis aralığı uzun olan daha iyidir
Awesome. Just bought myself a 500i. Haven’t pulled the cord yet for the first time. Got a 24 inch and 28 inch bar, because the price was right! 👍👍👍
Γιατί δεν συγκρίνεις το 572 ;; Η το 592 husky με το ms 500 ;;
All good saws! For that size softwood I would choose one of the lightest saws, 550 or 400 which i both like.
My observation is, the diameter of the log is getting smaller with every cut. So the last saw cutting has an instant advantage.
Great video! I love my Stihl MS 462...I can run the standard 20" or a 28" bar/chain combo all day long and never tire.
So, a 50cc and 60cc Husvarna Vs a 70cc and 80cc Stihls. Results are pretty poor for Stihl, either the same time, or barely faster, than the smaller husqvarna saws.
Typical
@@jackdawg4579 hi Rev Husqvarna vs high torque stihl
@@dougdayboll4424torque is only useful for measuring horsepower.
Longer bar need more power.
And RM vs RS chain.
I'm not sure how much cutting through knots effects the time. Both Husqvarna saws went through sections of knots. I have a 460 Rancher that I am very pleased with. I like your videos very much.
Any thoughts on which is easier to maintain or more reliable? And and does one saw last significantly longer?
I am a professional arborist. The answer is very simple. It depends to the operator. Sthil need less maintenance, works at low revs and it is really hard to control the power of the low rpm, this is but anybody can cut with still. Husqvarna is for pros, needs more maintenance, it works at almost double the revs, this means that you have got the high rpm power which can make more precise cuts, but to work with Husqvarna at the peek performance you need to know how to work with a chainsaw. If you don't know, you will say that Husqvarna is. shit. I am working everyday day removing/pruning big trees and all mai chainsaws are Husqvarna.
But if you don't know how to make a good maintenance, and you don't respect the gas/oil ratio, or for exemple you use red oil to Husqvarna, every chainsaw will last maximum 1 year
@@theGGx4 Double revs is BS
28,000R's😂
Here's the dish...either brand of saw is good and you won't go wrong either way. It's subjective and personal preference. I have a Stihl MS261-C that performs optimally and starts second or third pull every time. Plenty of power too. I am now looking to purchase a larger saw that will handle a 24" bar. I'm looking at the Husqvarna 460, but it's not a professional saw. I prefer a magnesium construction and not plastic, so I'm hoping to find a 61 (older model) or an 034 Stihl. I don't want to get anything bigger. I'm getting too old and tired to slog a great big saw.
At any rate, the comparison between models in the video is miniscule. Just get a saw that is well constructed from quality components and not cheap ass plastic. A cheap man pays twice.
I run an MS 260 Pro with a 32 inch bar. I run a semi skip chain to reduce the chain drag when I'm cutting bigger wood, but the main reason for the long bar is so I don't have to bend over.
Stihl 500i Best. 👍👍
Yes, very good
If you compare the price of each saw, I'm not sure the 500i was the best? How much are you willing to pay for a few tenths of a second over the course of three cuts? Seriously? I'm not saying a 500i isn't a great saw, but this demonstration wouldn't make me go out & buy one.
1:20 абсолютно правильно! после запуска двигателя нельзя сразу газовать - надо дать двигателю прогреться 20 - 30 секунд
👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Why would speed be the primary factor unless you're cutting firewood for a living? I'm not a logger or firewood salesman, so speed down to the fraction of a second isn't that important to me.
Kakav je Dolmar 7900.hvala.
Is it worth double the price of the others = Is it twice as fast as the others? I´ll buy 2 of the others.
It = which one??? Others = what do you mean???
560 best
those are great chainsaws both, at first I thought that the video was fast-paced forward but is not, is normal speed and they cut this log like butter !! the advantage of the Hugvarnas is the higher rpm than the stills ,,, the higher model the 881 still and the eqavalant Hugvarna have a difference of 2000 rpm in favor of the Hugsvarna which means a lower cutting time for the Hugsvarnas...
Tekis mieli ostaa Moottorisahamies lätsä ja pipo,saako sen jostain järkevästi?
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That's like comparing a Harley Davison being the sthil.....vs a Ducati being the Husqvarna
This is for you: finnishlumberjack.creator-spring.com/listing/chainsawmancap?product=2148
@FINNISHLUMBERJACK it's true though look at the torque curve of a stihl in relation to top rpm .... vs a Husqvarna the numbers don't lie my personal experience here in Ontario I use an old 181se on my mill just because it absolutely hauls ..... the rpms are nice also for a smother mill cut .... on the other hand in the bush my sweetheart is my ms361 that has been slightly modified it's an animal felling
You are 100% a CHAINSAW MAN!
Mam pilarke husqwarna 242 z 1991 r mozna by powiedziec z samego poczatku sprowadzania do Polski tych pilarek sporo nia pracowalem i nadal pracuje byla remontowana fakt ale i ro otw robiła i robi izywam do lzejszych prac po dzis dzień
Поставте на 500i звезду на 7 зубьев и более короткую шину и это будет пушка!
L Husqvarna 560 XP e 592 XP sono le migliori al mondo
I have Tanaka model ECV-4501 (40cc) Husky560 (60cc) Solo 681 (80cc) best saw ever.
Sahauksien edetessä pölli ohenee . Ei ehkä ihan samat olosuhteet sahojen välillä?
En tullut ajatelleeksi, että olisi merkittävä. Mittasitko erot?
Gota 400 love it pwr is good for some not. But like ít'
Stihl good 👍
My 372xp seemed to cut faster than the Stihl 661
Different size bars.
560 on paras. Sahalla tarvii tehdä muutakin kun katkoo runkoja.
ms 180 best 😊😊
Bonjour Mr, Merci pour vos vidéos. En belgique dans le Brabant Wallon les revendeurs Husqrvarna se sont moqués de mon épouse car elle a eut un AVC et elle est devenue handicapée. C'est intolérable pour notre famille. Je pense donc que chez Husqvarna les gens méchants. c'est pour cela que je ne veux plus entendre parler de Husqvarna. Je pense que husqvarna ne devrait plus exister.
Bien cordialement.
😡
Stihl is by farvbest chainsaw available on market
550❤❤
One of the major influential factors in the speed/performance of a chainsaw is the chain 'pitch'. The pitch of a chain is determined by the depth that the blades are allowed to cut provided for by the depth gauge. The two husq saws in this test are running .325 pitch chains, whereas the stihls are running 3/8. The 3/8 chain pitch allows for deeper cuts for each cutter.
I run a husqvarna 572 xp which is designed for a chain with a 3/8 pitch and it competes well with the heavier stihls.
That SP33G chain is narrow kerf in .325 pitch which provides faster cutting compared to regular kerf. The MS400 is the only one using full chisel in 3/8‘s and the 500i has semi-chisel which typically cuts slower but stays sharper longer in dirty cutting environments. Whether 325 or 3/8 the depth of cut is determined by the height of the depth gauge which is typically .025“ below the top plate here. Some set it lower for soft woods and/or change the top plate angle to 35 degrees instead of 30. So the 3/8 pitch will have a wider kerf than .325 but will typically cut the same depth.
Pitch has nothing to do with cut depth. Pitch is length between links and therefore the driver's to mesh with the sprockets. 3/8ths chain is heavier duty for high powered saws. 325 has a slightly narrower cutter so less drag tho. Depth of cut is determined by raker height.
Never seen a saw being warned up like that before !. Not right either.
is this how u warm up ur saws everytime? not very nice to ur saw. poor test aswell, wont see any big difference on the bigger saws unless ur doing a bigger log.
It depends on the weather, sometimes do it like this: ruclips.net/video/veIeAtynea0/видео.html
Every single saw of this test has got a different engine size, this is definitely not a fair test!
I think this test is only meant to demonstrate these are all pretty much the same practical performance wise if you wanted to buck reasonably sized logs. Obviously they are different and he's not even trying to balance this by using the same bar and chain setup etc. The point to be made here is they are all superb tools.
The different chains and details in how he filed them would make a difference. So does bar length, chain tension adjustment, cylinder temperature when starting the cut, and lots of stuff. Even technique given just one recorded attempt doing those three cuts. First and foremost how the saws were maintained and regarding trad carbs how well or even how aggressively they were tuned. Even then it's just about the same for the given use scenario unless one fubars really bad.
I've used stihl for 30 years . Every body I know that has a husky works on them a lot. Actually I bought a Chinese clone saw copy of a stihl and it out cuts the stihl I have. I've cut 25 cords with it and haven't had a problem with it.
ha az 500i-n is ugyanolyan kis hoki vezető lenne mint a husin akkor a 17mp is meglenne simán
Ihan samoissa sarjoissa ei kyllä nämä koneet kilpaile😂. Olisit Jouni ottanut vielä ton 592 Huskun mukaan😂.
Mutta toi 560 oli kyllä iloinen yllätys. Mitenköhän 572 olisi pärjännyt😉?
Eniten minä ihmettelen että 500 iivari vaan aika monessa ison puun kaato videossa käytössä😂 no ehkä siksi ku "pienenä" saha merkkinä niin tasotuksen vuoksi😂
572 xp is a proper saw.
@@jared4034 Yes I know😀
Ajassa ne eivät jääneet kauas jääneet toisistaan.
Tuosta lakkia päähän: finnishlumberjack.creator-spring.com/listing/chainsawmancap?product=2148
Ja omalle kanavalle jatkamaan seuraavilla sahoilla, testivideoille on kysyntää
@@FINNISHLUMBERJACK 😀👍🏻
Every size has it’s own job. So I guess you show what you use.
That was great! It would be interesting to measure fuel consumption for each unit to determine the best cost vs. benefit. I would bet you would like Stihl 23rs pro chain on the Husqvarna‘s that‘s .325 narrow kerf full chisel.👍
I understand Husqvarna now has a full chisel .325 narrow kerf x-cut chain available!
MS 883 best.
Χά-χά-χά....αυτό πρέπει να αγοράσω....
Θα αγόραζα 10 εάν έβρισκα still ms 461 & still ms 066...!!!
Μπορείς τα κινεζικά copy, έχω τ 395 copy και μέχρι τώρα καλό
So buy a Husqvarna 572 xp 👍
Dont care done everuthing needed on sharp 400. Thanks
Ni velike razlike,čeprav imam celo življenje Husqvarno sem se navdušil na STIHL žage, ker imam s Husqvarno stalno probleme z mazanjem verige in natezanjem verige.Moja naslednja bo STIHL.
Tą sosnę przetnę równie szybko ms180 na 1/4p :P
Nice work. Still I prefer my MSA 220 and MSA 300 over those loud stinking buddies. 😁
500i is the slowest. You loose time in pumping fuel....This kind of comparisons are senseless. No one buys a chainsaw just because of its cutting speed. And it is not even under objective and equal conditions. Nevertheless I like your clips and enjoy learning from you.
Ho una piccola motosega per uso domestico. Se fossi un professionista comprerei Echo o Shindawa che sono ottime e non Sthil perché la menano troppo con la Sthil.
👍👍👍👍
у каждой из этих бензопил своё назначение - husqvarna 550 не спилит дуб шириной метр, а stihl ms500i спилит и порежет на колодки, да и частота оборотов двигателя у stihl 14000-15000 оборотов в минуту, а у husqvarna - 12000- 13000 оборотов в минуту
ECHO JAPAN CS 7310 SX ❤👍 BEST CHEINSAW EVER
They are slow like a tractor but good saws. Ported they really wake up.
@@clintbliss2046 No portet no like ,original ist original solow 2,3 secund end no problem eco ist tenk
@@Okinawa1914 once you go ported you never go back. Greater power is good 👍
@@clintbliss2046 Jes anderstend ,no rush original ist mi ok sped is ok end power thenks 👍
Probate Dolmar 7300, 7900
Nice, Aki no Brasil não temos esses modelos . Sthil Ms 382, husqvarna 288xp são os mais vendidos
Soha nem gurigázom láncossal a fákat,kivágni és felvágni 2 méteresbe nincs értelme a versenynek!
Vergleichen unmogliche zusammen
Maailman suurimmat puut kaadetaan STIHL moottorisahalla siinä on kaksi männänrengasta ja STIHL ei mene väljäksi vanhanakaan. Nuo muut sahat menee väljäksi ja niissä ei enää tyhjäkäynti toimi ne joutuu romukoppaan.
Sillon kun Huski menee väljäksi Sthiliin on vaihdettu jo kaksi sylinteriä ja mäntää. Sthil on moottorisahojen Volkkari.
Husky is the king
la differenza la fa l arrotatura non la motosega a meno che non sia cinese
👍
Dobbiamo considerare anche il prezzo di ogni motosega. €/$???
Lavoro con husqvarna 560xp,e mi trovo più che bene,è una macchina eccezionale! Pagata € 950,00 anche se 6 anni fà. Ma sempre super potente ed affidabile!
Stihl rubbish no quality/husky rules/go pro or go home.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
👍🏻
Hullu mies, tuhlaa hyvän tukin jonnin joutavaan😢
Juu elä muuta virka. Se on kyllä sulaa hulluutta kun 12 tollasta 1cm vahvuista lettua sahaa tollasen 5m pitkän tukin päästä😂 kaiken järkevinhän olisi tuommonen puu polttaa uunissakin ilman jotta ollenkaan menee sitä pätkimään klapimittaankaan vaan kokonaisena sitä mukaa työtää syvemmälle ku palaa uunissa loppuu. Sen verta monta katkaisua tulee jo tuohon mittaan jotta lähtee jo monta senttiä pois. Se on kaikki kotiin päin ja säästöä👍
allora il confronto va fatto con la stessa cilindrata questa prova non vale niente
Yoke
bunlar adil olamaz 1 kütük torbadan çıkacak hin budak olmayacak hp eşit olacak zincir lokma sayısı ve hepsi 3.08 veya 32.5 olacak makineler bir mekanik ka bağlanacak öyle bakılacak birde hangisi olursa olsun mutlaka servis aralığı uzun olan daha iyidir
ei niin suuria eroja kuitenkaan !!!😕oli kunnon kuusia !!!
no, ehä nuo sahat ollu ees saman kokoosiia
:)
If you mean that cutting is the only way to rate a chainsaw you are not a real forestworker but just an advertiser.
😂
And the winer is 462